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Guildo Crow
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.11.24 14:34:00 -
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Woah. I actually really liked that. Any more info on this one? Which studio worked on it? where did it air? A higher rez version of this? |
Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
1016
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Posted - 2013.11.24 14:35:00 -
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The newborn player count has remained steady for a while now, yet the active amount of players has been steadily slowly decreasing. A month before 1.7, with free boosters, events, a triple SP week and a bonus 40-50k SP a week on tuesdays, you've managed to get the numbers back up.
Good job, but it says nothing about longterm player retention. We'll see what happens when 1.7 comes out. We'll probably get another spike in newborn players and active players, then. Dust 514 is "doomed" if the downward trend continues, even if disrupted for a short period of time, through major content updates. I think Dust will have a cycle of losing active players and gaining active players between large updates, so it's hard to tell anything now.
Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn.
Panda.
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1267
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Posted - 2013.11.24 15:06:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:PS4 hasn't had it's European release yet, so there's that.
And then there's the slightly more cautious adopters who held back and are as we speak sniffing the winds for tidings of burning resin and hot plastic.
But none of that really matters. Sooner or later the doomsayers will realize that there is nothing tougher, nothing harder to kill than New Eden. I'm still waiting for a developer to come along who has the balls to take CCP on in this market and give them some real competition. We will all profit from CCP having a real competitor.
So far though, nobody has stepped up to the plate. Just more and more elaborate iterations on the accessible and meaningless games for the masses. I suppose they're afraid of offending palates weened on mcdonalds.
And in the end, all those doomsayers are just over-sensitive loverboys jilted by CCP's independence ;)
New Eden in a niche that is difficult to fill. We can complain and bemoan about CCP but you have to give it to them. They make one hell of a sci fi universe. I don't worry too much about the doomsayers because it isn't anything that EVE didn't go through. If EVE's past is an indication of our future then we are in for a good time.
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2013.11.24 15:12:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud.
Hehe but I can't play DUST on the PS4 or X-Box One thing :-p |
Second Cerberus
Tested In Production
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Posted - 2013.11.24 15:21:00 -
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Sorry, < 5,000 players on a system with 77 million sold doesn't say good things about the future of DUST.
If people didn't bother to try a free game by now, what makes you think they will with next-gen consoles and true next-gen games becoming widely available over the next year?
And don't tell me new content because one or two new weapons or suits per year is not going to draw new players.
Also, someone has to pay for this development so we need those people willing to drop $500 on a FTP game. You may not like them and they don't deserve an "IWin" button, but we need them. Every person who states on this forum that they've spent "hundreds of dollars" is lol'd.
With PS4 launch, tons of "old" PS3 games much better than DUST are going to be moving to the bargain bins. Even those willing to stay on the PS3 for financial reasons or PS4 availability are going to have many more great games to play on the cheap. Are they going to drop $50 or a $100 on DUST when the can get 5-10 games for the same money? |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1297
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Posted - 2013.11.24 15:55:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Oh look at that. A free to play shooter on a console that has none ( = no competition from F2P games) only gets 4.4k players as it's high level
If this game doesn't have more people 1 year from now, then yeah..... it might be doomed. But right now stagnation isn't such a terrible thing. There just isn't enough content yet.
Marston VC, STB director
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
118
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Posted - 2013.11.24 16:12:00 -
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Scheherazade VII wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I want CCP to do some television advertising, think of how many people want something new to play without having to buy the next-gen console. Get an advertisement on TV and reallllllly hammer home the free-to-play aspect, and I reckon DUST will have an influx of thousands of players. Still, 4,400 max for last night isn't too bad, maybe we will see 5,000+ consistently soon?
They don't have to do that . A lot of people know about Dust 514 . More than you think , just look at YouTube and social media sights and you can tell that the game ( along with EVE ) is well known . A lot of features of and about this game is the key to it's success or failure .
Trust me . Get the bugs out and fix some ( not even all but just some FOR NOW ) of the problems of this game and first the old players will come back and second some newer players will come because the players you have now will bring players as well as the old players ( when they come back ) so lets solve some of these problems and this game will be fine .
CCP knows what they are doing ( half the time ... mad about my tanks still ) so let's just trust them and enjoy the ride .
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" BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
7948
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Posted - 2013.11.24 16:15:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Oh look at that. A free to play shooter on a console that has none ( = no competition from F2P games) only gets 4.4k players as it's high level If this game doesn't have more people 1 year from now, then yeah..... it might be doomed. But right now stagnation isn't such a terrible thing. There just isn't enough content yet.
To be honest, a lower player count is probably a good thing for us right now, considering how buggy and laggy the game can be. Best to keep it on the DL until we get PvE, EVE connection, smooth fps, stable balance and mechanics. This time next year is what will really start showing DUST's true colors. They're still building the foundation. It's close.
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Joel II X
AHPA
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Posted - 2013.11.24 16:27:00 -
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Give it time. By the time Destiny comes out, Dust 514 will only be dust in the wind. |
Powerh8er
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.11.24 16:38:00 -
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Its all going to hell... Slowly.
Livin' large!
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DeathwindRising
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
129
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Posted - 2013.11.24 16:40:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Oh look at that. A free to play shooter on a console that has none ( = no competition from F2P games) only gets 4.4k players as it's high level A free to play shooter that was released deeply flawed, has terribad reviews and doesn't have any of it's design content yet ^.^ Silly cat.
lmao i loved that. itll be the 1st year anniversary of dust and it still wont have any of that CCP wanted in the game for release lol
CCP shouldve gone the way of duke nukem forever and released "when it's done"
of course DNF came out and sucked, so theres that too.
lesson from this is to get the help you need to get things done in a reasonable time frame. crowd fund if need be, but get it done when you say itll be done, and dont use the term MMO as an excuse to release a product without even half of its content. Bad form CCP |
EternalRMG
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
628
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Posted - 2013.11.24 17:01:00 -
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Lt Royal wrote:Scheherazade VII wrote:
I want CCP to do some television advertising, think of how many people want something new to play without having to buy the next-gen console.
Get an advertisement on TV and reallllllly hammer home the free-to-play aspect, and I reckon DUST will have an influx of thousands of players.
Still, 4,400 max for last night isn't too bad, maybe we will see 5,000+ consistently soon?
They already have a TV advertisement, which they showcased at FanFest 2013.
It looks pretty good
"Fight Togheter; Win Together"
Duster Since: July 2012
Best DropShip Pilot; Soon To be best Jet Fighter Pilot
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Alpha 443-6732
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Posted - 2013.11.24 17:07:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud.
ccp is rigging the player stats jsccf conspiracy the jews will strike again
AV =/= Completely dominate and render vehicles useless. AV = Counterpart of vehicles that combats vehicles.
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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
1316
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Posted - 2013.11.24 17:13:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. probably because the game has become more like cod
"Please don't"
GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå
I Support SP Rollover, MAKE IT HAPPEN CCP !!!
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xLuca Brasi
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
116
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:23:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud.
as soon as they actually remove my bpo's im gone... and I wont be playing dust on the ps4 when it gets there years from now.
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz
224
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:33:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:ovary obliterator wrote:gloating level = weak perhaps try a little more sarcasm
or just learn to fly better maybe... :( I haven't crashed into any buildings all week... getting shot down another story.
I know right, feel sorry for the dropships I drop in one shot.
Nuff Said
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
955
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:38:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. try posting this again next weekend once I am home with my black friday game deals , new 70 inch hdtv, laptops , tablets.
bench time for dust next weekend .....lol.
Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!!
Jumps into escape pod!
Selected destination Planet PS4.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4540
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:50:00 -
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People that wanted to leave DUST are gone already (months now). I guess new people are playing. Wait a month or so till they realize they're grinding for no reason cuz they're still getting raped.
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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jlpgaming2752
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
13
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:53:00 -
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Proof Dust needs to be fixed and returned to Chromosome.
Subscribe to my YouTube channel for entertaining Dust videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/jlpgaming2752
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
595
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:55:00 -
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I'd reckon that the PS4 will really buzz when MGSV, Destiny, and Watchdogs come alive on the consoles. Oh and there's Infamous: Second Son and the F2P Space Ninja Game(Which looks like it belongs in Dust because of the character models). >.> Dust has plenty of time to build itself up before placing a set on the PS4 before the playerbase is "stolen" away like these caller of the apocalypse players have been saying.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Avallo Kantor
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
244
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Posted - 2013.11.24 22:36:00 -
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There was a really well done post that was made a few months ago, I suggest you reread it (don't necro it though)
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112030
Basically the sentiment and research is still much the same: Among Free to play Games concurrent logged in users are not as high as one expects, and the total player base isn't determined just by the "highest concurrent players" count that so many people are using from Eve Offline.
Remember there is a -large- difference in scope between 4k players total vs 4k players logged in concurrently. The First indicates total population size, where as the second is only the cap of people playing at one time.
Also, we can assume that sessions for the average player aren't that long. Using this link:
http://www.pwc.com/us/en/industry/entertainment-media/publications/assets/pwc-video-gaming-and-content-consumption.pdf
we can see an industry paper from Microsoft on the average play time per WEEK of many players. Using Pg 2 as a reference, we can see average weekly play times. Assuming everyone who plays DUST is in the "Heavy Gamer" category that still only shows 6.8 hrs a week spent on the game.
Assuming 1 hr sessions, that isn't even enough (on average) to cover the entire peak time of each day. Not to mention the middling numbers (less than peak) that display the rest of the non-peak hours. Clearly one can see that the total player count is -far- higher than max players. |
Vinsarrow
New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day
99
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Posted - 2013.11.24 22:50:00 -
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It just goes to show the Love people have for Dust 514 we aren't going unless Dust 514 switches & that's final (This is especially pointed at CCP) DO YOU HEAR US CCP!!!!!!!!??? |
Aoena Rays
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
385
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Posted - 2013.11.25 02:59:00 -
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I am pretty sure 4.4k is number of players in battle. Although to be sure tweet @CCP_CmdrWang to clarify... |
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CCP Cmdr Wang
C C P C C P Alliance
2366
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Posted - 2013.11.25 03:14:00 -
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Did someone call my name?
@Aoena, PCU is peak concurrent user and only measures highest number of players logged in to the game. There is a separate battle PCU that measures number of people in battles. WAU, is weekly active user, and is more commonly used to gauge player base size.
@Vinsarrow, you had us at hello. |
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1881
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Posted - 2013.11.25 03:29:00 -
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And the Y2K fear mongering fell silent that day... |
Reefersmokintaz
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
68
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Posted - 2013.11.25 04:26:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:PS4 hasn't had it's European release yet, so there's that.
And then there's the slightly more cautious adopters who held back and are as we speak sniffing the winds for tidings of burning resin and hot plastic.
But none of that really matters. Sooner or later the doomsayers will realize that there is nothing tougher, nothing harder to kill than New Eden. I'm still waiting for a developer to come along who has the balls to take CCP on in this market and give them some real competition. We will all profit from CCP having a real competitor.
So far though, nobody has stepped up to the plate. Just more and more elaborate iterations on the accessible and meaningless games for the masses. I suppose they're afraid of offending palates weened on mcdonalds.
And in the end, all those doomsayers are just over-sensitive loverboys jilted by CCP's independence ;)
If Deep Silver and Egosoft were smart, SOMEHOW if they introduced an online universe, IMHO over time the X universe will kill EvE... I freakin love the X series. One thing that brought me to New Eden. Now that X Rebirth is out, I am gonna buy it and get lost for a few months lol. Deep Silver NEED to launch an online X game! |
4447
Resolution XIII
847
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Posted - 2013.11.25 04:42:00 -
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Did someone call my name? @Aoena, PCU is peak concurrent user and only measures highest number of players logged in to the game. There is a separate battle PCU that measures number of people in battles. WAU, is weekly active user, and is more commonly used to gauge player base size. @Vinsarrow, you had us at hello.
If we get to 10k, can we have a BPO tank module
Creep, Radiohead.
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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
675
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Posted - 2013.11.25 04:42:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud.
Nice promo, IWS. You did see the 6 month population graph I trust?
Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
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dustwaffle
Xer Cloud Consortium
684
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Posted - 2013.11.25 05:26:00 -
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Keep moving those goalposts |
Asirius Medaius
690
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Posted - 2013.11.25 05:46:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud.
Man, calm down, I'm leaving soon, just be patient; I have to wait for the PS4s to be restocked at my local GameStop, and then if 1.7 isn't as good as CCP hyped, I'm gone.
(P.S.: I don't think 1.7 is going to make a lot of vehicle or AV users very happy, so I'm getting my shoes ready to head out the door just in case.)
Signature coming soonGäó.
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