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BMSTUBBY 355	Posted - 2013.11.28 22:52:00 - [121] - Quote soulreaper73 wrote: As I mentioned in another thread, Dust is very similar to Mag's track. Mag's player base dwindled quickly just like Dust. Those that remained were a fanatical fan base that kept a broken game going on for 4 years. (yes it will be four years come January which is its last month to live.) Dust seems like its fanatical fan base can keep it alive for about 4-5 years as well. However, it will need to eventually port to PS4 to do so. So relax hardcore dust players. Your game will not die anytime soon. It may be a ghost town with the same folks in lobbies over and over, but hey so was mag and it survived longer than it should have. Yes proto stomping for 3 years and then death, lol. Dusters - MMO WhenGäó ? CCP - MMO SoonGäó .
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 640	Posted - 2013.11.29 00:36:00 - [122] - Quote Dust gives us something. I am not sure what. These forums are a waste of time tho. Fu(k you all. (see u in a month orso).
Slick Saan FotM 514 0	Posted - 2013.11.29 01:15:00 - [123] - Quote It should also be noted that the stats here are REALLY generous. The stats only include new players of that ONE day... Not all week long. The numbers would be much worse if all 7 days in the week were counted.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 640	Posted - 2013.11.29 02:42:00 - [124] - Quote I thought I'd be banned by now.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2512	Posted - 2013.11.29 02:48:00 - [125] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. I still dont have $ for a Ps4. Me poor you see... The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
Tectonic Fusion 629	Posted - 2013.11.29 03:11:00 - [126] - Quote Lol at these posts :3 Solo Player Squad status: Locked
dustwaffle Xer Cloud Consortium 699	Posted - 2013.11.29 07:39:00 - [127] - Quote Slick Saan wrote: dustwaffle wrote: Jak'Saan wrote: Wow you really are the worst CPM ever... dude seriously go home. Anyway, down to it: here's a little statistics for our genius CPM based on weekly peaks: Proceeds to show us very bad maths Statistics 101 is ---------------------------------------------> that way Lol! You do realize the math adds up right? So if we take into account all the new players: Current week active players - first week active players SHOULD EQUAL: First week active players + all or at least a small portion of new players since First week. Instead what we see is: Current week active players < First week active players + ALL new players since first week. Or better described as, players are quitting faster than they are joining. Ok, since it's a Friday and I'm feeling too lazy to work: The numbers you quote do not indicate active players. They show player counts online at a given time. That means, on the assumption that there is overlap between different players playing at different times, and that average play time is 2-4 hours a day, you'd be looking at an active total playercount much higher than the quote 3000-4000. Next, you have the X number of new characters created. The new characters created could either be old players creating alts, or new players creating accounts and creating characters. Therefore a more accurate indicator would be new accounts created, which unfortunately we don't have the numbers for. This is not to say that even if we had this number, we could derive anything from it, since it's hard to track how many unique new players there are as opposed to an old player creating an alt account. Even if we assume all new characters created are unique new players, you have to factor in that they will not ALL be playing at the same time, and at the peak time at that. Therefore, even if you have 800 new characters created in a day, you would probably only see a bump of an additional 20-30 players on at a given time. This isn't to say that Dust isn't losing subscribers. But it's not losing it at the hyperbolic Dust-Is-Dead/Dying rate you're prescribing in both this thread (backed up by **** maths due to lack of understanding graphs) or the other thread you started (also backed by ** maths). CCP has, in the past and present, acknowledged that new player retention is a key problem. They also, however, understand that there is always that core base of players to whom the game appeals to. The key to their success is improving new player retention, either through making the game more newbie friendly or decreasing the 'difficulty'/complexity, while at the same time not alienating their existing playerbase by driving down the complexity and systems that drew them in the first place. I would say this balancing act isn't as simple as you think it is. You're welcome for the maths lessons and reading comprehension lessons. Next time, maybe you'll be able to understand what you're looking at when you look at a graph. I do, however, have a question for you. Given your earlier post about deleting Dust from your PS3 (referring to your post on 22nd November), why are you still posting rubbish maths on a video game forum when you' (1) are no longer playing the game; (2) do not have the game installed anyway; and (3) claim that the game is dying? Just wanted to understand the reasoning behind this kind of irrational behaviour, since I'm basing it off what I would do and my own line of reasoning, where if something no longer interests me (like many of the games out there), I couldn't care less what happens to it and would not bother posting anything, constructive or not, on said games' forums. Give me some help here, since I don't understand why someone who isn't interested in a game anymore would still continue making shitposts on the forums a WEEK** after the game has been deleted.
dustwaffle Xer Cloud Consortium 699	Posted - 2013.11.29 07:49:00 - [128] - Quote Slick Saan wrote: It should also be noted that the stats here are REALLY generous. The stats only include new players of that ONE day... Not all week long. The numbers would be much worse if all 7 days in the week were counted. Free lesson on understanding numbers and what they mean 1 post above this.
BMSTUBBY 356	Posted - 2013.11.29 15:37:00 - [129] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: BMSTUBBY wrote: Hey Iron Wolf Saber WTH? Where are the tens of thousands of DUST Players? It is a major US holiday with millions of kids and adults home today. Heck kids have been home since yesterday. These are the numbers that this game gets: Currently online: 2,506 Max (24h): 4,062 (2013-11-27 22:53:00) 85 million PS3's world wide. hey millions of Steam users, only 500 bother playing star conflict http://steamcharts.com/app/212070 1k play black light retribution a game lauded to be much better than Dust 514. http://steamcharts.com/app/209870 6k for planetside 2 http://steamcharts.com/app/218230 Number of Steam Users 65 million with about a 10% logged in base of about 5 million at a time. What does this mean? Quite a few folks didn't buy a ps3 for a singular game. Hummm, I do not recall referencing any of the above rubbish in my post but okay. Hey if comparing this games playerbase numbers to steams gets you past the fact that this MMO FPS is below meh average then more power to you. Dusters - MMO WhenGäó ? CCP - MMO SoonGäó .
KGB Sleep Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 446	Posted - 2013.11.29 15:48:00 - [130] - Quote Let this ******* stupid thread die already. "Because beer, that's why."

Slick Saan FotM 514 0	Posted - 2013.11.29 16:20:00 - [131] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: Therefore, even if you have 800 new characters created in a day, you would probably only see a bump of an additional 20-30 players on at a given time. The point is, with 800 or so new players a DAY for a week, in one weeks time you should at least see the active players in a given day (the weekly peak) increase by 30-20, but we see that it decreases most weeks. dustwaffle wrote: You're welcome for the maths lessons and reading comprehension lessons. Next time, maybe you'll be able to understand what you're looking at when you look at a graph. Using the word "maths" makes me question your credibility on this subject. dustwaffle wrote: I do, however, have a question for you. Given your earlier post about deleting Dust from your PS3 (referring to your post on 22nd November), why are you still posting rubbish maths on a video game forum when you' (1) are no longer playing the game; (2) do not have the game installed anyway; and (3) claim that the game is dying? Because the game was good once. My favorite in fact, even with all the bugs. Then they started showing sloppy development habits (coding hacks and then forgetting to remove the hacks once they fix the real issues) and just like that, 1.6 HD fixes meant if I wanted to stay on the top of the charts I'd have to proto. dustwaffle wrote: Give me some help here, since I don't understand why someone who isn't interested in a game anymore would still continue making shitposts on the forums a WEEK after the game has been deleted. Plain and simple. If CCP ever comes out with a fix to this **** TTK issue, I would be the first to re-download and start up again. My posts are a pissed way of saying, "CCP get your ** together!" So that we can reclaim maybe just SOME of the people who have left for the same reasons. I deleted it because I was sick of getting frustrated at getting killed just for being seen, even though I was still top three spots on the team. But I am hopeful that CCP will at some point realize how frustrating they've made their game and that they are in fact losing players over it. People who don't care, don't hate.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 512	Posted - 2013.11.29 17:04:00 - [132] - Quote Avallo Kantor wrote: There was a really well done post that was made a few months ago, I suggest you reread it (don't necro it though) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112030 Basically the sentiment and research is still much the same: Among Free to play Games concurrent logged in users are not as high as one expects, and the total player base isn't determined just by the "highest concurrent players" count that so many people are using from Eve Offline. Post #91 in that thread is a perfect example and explanation of the flaws in the statistical logic of the post.
Admonishment The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 31	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:32:00 - [133] - Quote Honestly I see a lot of potential in this game, people bad mouth it because its not like C.O.D. and you cant run around instantly no scope 360 head shot people at whim with your pink camouflage rifle. Part of the problem with the newer generation of gamers is that game gave them the idea they were good because the game did most of the work for them. They go to something else and they aren't "good" anymore and complain. They want every other game to be exactly like that and for some reason think every game should be influenced from it lol. My first shooters were Wolfenstine and Blake Stone on floppy disc. If some of the new gamers tried to play those games they wouldn't make it past the first level. No hand holding at all. Pretty sure C.O.D. wasn't the first shooter that came along. I came to this game because some of it reminds me of M.A.G. and I ended up coming over to this and liked it. Even with the bugs I still play because its fun when you get into a good even fight that can go either way. As long as the patches keep coming and issues keep being fixed I will continue to keep playing. Hopefully eventually will see this game again on PS4. Patiently waiting for new scout suits, shotguns, and new melee sidearms lol. Level 5 Proficiency in Tupperware handling.
mollerz Minja Scouts 1030	Posted - 2013.11.29 19:25:00 - [134] - Quote Slick Saan wrote: People who don't care, don't hate. I took your like cherry. We are forever connected. #shittycoding
Solitar Greywatch D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 0	Posted - 2013.11.29 19:29:00 - [135] - Quote People say this game is dying but when I log into the tranquility server it usually has over 20,000 players online?
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 447	Posted - 2013.11.29 19:39:00 - [136] - Quote Solitar Greywatch wrote: People say this game is dying but when I log into the tranquility server it usually has over 20,000 players online? Sorry Solitar what you are seeing is a combination of Eve Online players and Dust 514. Dust on average makes up less than 4000 players at peak times with a general roof at 4500 approx on weekends etc.
Solitar Greywatch D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 0	Posted - 2013.11.29 19:52:00 - [137] - Quote Thanks for clearing the confusion
Sleepy Zan 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 2867	Posted - 2013.11.29 20:02:00 - [138] - Quote Game is still bleeding out, hopefully the 1.7 Band-Aid will help it out. "Burn down their families and rape their homes!"
Solitar Greywatch D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 0	Posted - 2013.11.29 20:07:00 - [139] - Quote I heard some D.A.R.K. L.E.G.I.O.N. soldiers talking about 1.7 and they said it is going to be the biggest content drop in Dust 514. Just wanted to say if this is true.
Slick Saan FotM 514 1	Posted - 2013.11.29 21:29:00 - [140] - Quote Solitar Greywatch wrote: I heard some D.A.R.K. L.E.G.I.O.N. soldiers talking about 1.7 and they said it is going to be the biggest content drop in Dust 514. Just wanted to say if this is true. Honestly as much hate as I am spewing, I'm starting to wonder myself. I really am thinking (hoping, praying really) that this is true and that is why CCP is being so quiet about it. CCP you've held me onto this game since the beginning, I am giving you the benefit of the doubt... See you at 1.7 1.6 == fail

BMSTUBBY 357	Posted - 2013.11.30 17:27:00 - [141] - Quote KGB Sleep wrote: Let this ******* stupid thread die already. Never! I want to keep reminding people how much of a troll this CPM is. CCP will never lock or ban their little monkey on a string though. Dusters - MMO WhenGäó ? CCP - MMO SoonGäó .
mollerz Minja Scouts 1066	Posted - 2013.11.30 18:52:00 - [142] - Quote I've resisted posting on this thread, but hey may as well. IWS, your analysis is somewhat interesting, but you really didn't read the next gen console situation very well. The PS4, once it really becomes widely available with that right game, Dust will plummet. An incomplete last gen FPS with horrible mechanics and only balanced to one role out of four that requires a half year grind is doomed in any scenario. Dust 514 or any other game. You shouldn't be so happy if you really like Dust. IWS isn't the worst CPM, That Jenza lady is. She needs to go home. I would never vote for IWS to be on CPM1, but I might for CPM2. Something tells me he desperately needs to be on the CPM, and losing that spot will help him grow enough to ditch all the bullshit and just shine with the positives he does bring in his bid for reelection on the CPM2. Howse about them apples for an analysis, IWS? #shittycoding
SoTarian PoParrazi Shining Flame Amarr Empire 379	Posted - 2013.11.30 18:53:00 - [143] - Quote Everyones waiting to see is PS2 is going to flop or not. If it does - a wave of us will probably return to Dust514 as BF4 and CoD:G are nothing special. Dust has that special flavor that's turned every FPS lame for me. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
Slick Saan FotM 514 1	Posted - 2013.12.02 17:29:00 - [144] - Quote BMSTUBBY wrote: KGB Sleep wrote: Let this ***** stupid thread die already. Never! I want to keep reminding people how much of a troll this CPM is. CCP will never lock or ban their little monkey on a string though. This! I've already reported this thread as a troll thread and any other IWS troll posts as well. But alas, we all know this to be true... BMSTUBBY wrote:** CCP will never lock or ban their little monkey on a string though.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10958	Posted - 2013.12.02 19:58:00 - [145] - Quote Slick Saan wrote: BMSTUBBY wrote: KGB Sleep wrote: Let this ***** stupid thread die already. Never! I want to keep reminding people how much of a troll this CPM is. CCP will never lock or ban their little monkey on a string though. This! I've already reported this thread as a troll thread and any other IWS troll posts as well. But alas, we all know this to be true... BMSTUBBY wrote:** CCP will never lock or ban their little monkey on a string though. I want you from this point forward report every thread that decides "hey let's look at dust population chart and let's widely speculate its dying" then. Also I highly suggest looking up trolling and what generally happens in a successful troll. Generally I am a total failure of a troll to based on that fact alone. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Electronics =// Unlocked
DUST 514 Player 12345678914 Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 571	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:13:00 - [146] - Quote Thread will haunt OP forever. You have a lot to answer for.
Sentient Archon 1353	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:16:00 - [147] - Quote DUST 514 Player 12345678914 wrote: Thread will haunt OP forever. Nah! IWS is just gonna go home and hug his Caldari Assault plushie in a fetal position and cry himself to sleep saying;- "It's gonna be alright! It's gonna!" The only troll to successfully troll CCP.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10958	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:16:00 - [148] - Quote DUST 514 Player 12345678914 wrote: Thread will haunt OP forever. I don't think so. There are more noteworthy threads of my failure yet the community can't seem to stay focused enough to ostrasize me on the more critical things I have said or done wrong. Most of those are locked now due to timeout. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Electronics =// Unlocked
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10958	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:17:00 - [149] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: DUST 514 Player 12345678914 wrote: Thread will haunt OP forever. Nah! IWS is just gonna go home and hug his Caldari Assault plushie in a fetal position and cry himself to sleep saying;- "It's gonna be alright! It's gonna!" Who told you about that!?!???? CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Electronics =// Unlocked
Sentient Archon 1353	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:18:00 - [150] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: my failure(s) Fixed for you! The only troll to successfully troll CCP.



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