How are blaster turrets getting an increase in direct hit damage?

My current Scattered Ion Cannon does 150 damage per hit.

The new Ion Cannon does 136.

Now, I realize that there are a lot of broke tankers out there running aurum turrets, but surely CCP has seen the numbers that reflect that every non aurum turret used for blaster tanks is a scattered. Only idiots run compressed or standard, and stabilized is way too PG intensive.

Will supply depots be the only way to resupply vehicles?

I asked this before. What is the resupply range when approaching a Supply Depot in 1.7? The current distance is terribly close which makes it a pain to navigate around safely with a dropship. You practically need to be touching the depot to see an effect.

will av guys go aroud destroying all supply depots, first thing now?

will av guys go aroud destroying all supply depots, first thing now?

what are "promotional" vehicles ? and are "gruistas saga" one of SAGA lav's ?

will av guys go aroud destroying all supply depots, first thing now?

I'm thinking that I will destroy every red SD.

On the same note we shouldn't see vehicles in standard Ambush any more.

You can recall them and re- call them

Don't get me wrong, I like to see dev blogs, but isn't this information we have already heard a lot about? I hope the other two dev blogs have more interesting/new stuff.

Hey hey, pass this on to the team in charge. I like the vehicle lock, but can we add a toggle. You, know like being able to turn it off or on. Because in pubs I want it on. But in PC, I know the blueberries... And I would want them in my derpship as soon as possible. Know what I mean? Let me know CCP. Thanks

I'm rather unsure about the 1.7 update and think in a lot of ways it is bad, I'll go point by point to explain.

1. No isk prices were listed upon the data dumps, how much is everything going to cost? Especially considering unless you are playing PC most vehicles in the game are not affordable for you to use as it is. Considering a good tank can cost easily over 750k and a pub match at most can make you 300-400k minus suit expenses which can at times easily go over the profit gained during a match.

2. "That's my ride"- Alright...let me get this straight, for 15 seconds after the driver has already gotten in the car he can't get any blueberries? "As it stands today, no-one other than the vehicle owner can get into a vehicle for 5 seconds after delivery and no-one other than the vehicle owner and his squad can get into a vehicle for 15 seconds after delivery." I don't exactly see this as a fix to the problem, just adding on more to the problem, how are people who are not squaded going to be effective in lavs for transporting people fast? Also, the problem additionally was, when a blueberry got into the vehicle and refused to get out and stole your car or when you were caping an objective or had to get out for a short period of time a blueberry would steal your ride, right in front of you.

3. "Turrent Tweaks"- This has massive sp sink written all over it, I want to see the actual skill tree and how this is going to be applied into it. What I can see of it is that every gun was broken down into segments then given very expensive upgrading charges to and a lot of pay sp to unlock this, I don't think this is exactly helpful and I hope to have a refund on my sp I sunk into vehicles if this is as bad as it reads to me.

4. "Tearing up the road"- Okay....so they are making the lavs with Gallente having a slower start up and a higher top speed and the Caldari with a faster acceleration. I call absolute horseshit on this, let me explain, for most lav operation the entire route is 200m-400m with twists and turns, meaning top speed will never be achieved for longer then 5 seconds. Also, everyone knows that a shield LAV is better then an armor LAV unless somehow the patch is going to drastically change this. In that nearly all AV measures are explosive damage, this can be shown better by using the LLAV's where a shield LLAV can literally take half a team to kill it, even if the LLAV is just parked. An Armor LLAV wishes and dreams it had that much damage soak ability. Where I am going with this, is that acceleration is easily more valuable then top speed in this game, especially with how a lot of fields have bumps and other things to slow you down, so I say that by giving Gallente vehicles a slower acceleration you will be killing them, since top speed doesn't mean much of a damn if you can never find a straight road to use it on. Shield based LAV's will still easily be the best, because their is no armor LAV that I would ever call a "armor-tanked bruiser" consider how fast they die to AV damage especially forge guns.

Few things I loved about this patch though are.

1. "Target Aquired"- About time we get turrets that can shoot straight and don't throw a shell a mile off just because you moved an inch.

2. HAV's getting better manueverability, this will help a ton with survivability, I just hope that the swarm missiles get a better tracking program rather then constantly smacking into walls.

3. Vehicles having finite ammo and supply depots being able to give them back ammo (though I do hope their is another way for tanks to get ammo, otherwise all supply depots are going to die, just to deny tanks access)

vehicle locks, being on timers is poo yh u can get in when dropped but 5 mins later I can pull up on a hill top change to gunner seat and some nutter can still effectively drive off with it when I had a kill in my sights, hasn't resolved anything,

I just like to say tht if you want vehicles to have a role on the map then u need make them devastating and powerful then offer bigger SAFE ZONES in which infantry can harbour by changing maps offering more coverage from them underground passes trenches, towers with look out points tht u can shoot at dropships from and quickly gain cover, also should offer some high resting places for dropships tht offer cover from other dropships and time to regain ur shields and repair cos there is no safe harbours to stop off and repair vehicles, i honestly think vehicles where great when they were a challenge and were powerful, it was fun trying to sneak up on a tank and stick some sticky bombs on them, using the tech on ur arm as the detonator switch looked awesome, it was fun having to run for cover from a badass dropship, they need to be devastating and ultimately EXSPENSIVE.

I just like to say tht if you want vehicles to have a role on the map then u need make them devastating and powerful then offer bigger SAFE ZONES in which infantry can harbour by changing maps offering more coverage from them underground passes trenches, towers with look out points tht u can shoot at dropships from and quickly gain cover, also should offer some high resting places for dropships tht offer cover from other dropships and time to regain ur shields and repair cos there is no safe harbours to stop off and repair vehicles, i honestly think vehicles where great when they were a challenge and were powerful, it was fun trying to sneak up on a tank and stick some sticky bombs on them, using the tech on ur arm as the detonator switch looked awesome, it was fun having to run for cover from a badass dropship, they need to be devastating and ultimately EXSPENSIVE.

the owner of a vehicle needs to have rights over the driver seat indefinitely, and or have the ability to be a mercenary locking everyone out completely.

Again unrealistic. There is no way that a vehicle deployed for a combat situation would be keyed to a single user permanently when its life expectancy is 10 min. The current setup for delayed access is brilliant! it will allow for squad organization when deploying, and still allows for hacking/commandeering throughout a match

This is a completely unrealistic approach to battles and gameplay. Real battlefields are either open expanses of ground leading to structures, or they are urban environments with a built infrastructure which serves the purpose of the structure. No planer would build underground passages unless they were meant for the building/settlement, trenches would only be dug in a war that was lasting weeks or months, and natural cover for a dropship would only be found in forests/caves/ravines.

I agree that vehicles should offer a challenge, but should be countered appropriately with the correct provisions. I don't want an AV grenade that can take out a tank in a single hit, but I would appreciate one making them second guess sticking around.

Next, what is with the double SP sinks to get into turrets?

Why do I need to level up turret operation to level 5, to then level large turret operation to level 5, then large missile operation to level 5?

Turret operation provides for nothing other than being an SP sink. Remove it.

Basically, my opinion is that if all the skill is doing is unlocking access to more skills, it should be a 1x skill. Stop creating artificial sinks for our SP.

As long as someone can build a potent AV fit for less than 2m SP, then it is unreasonable to expect pilots to have to spend multi millions just to get a decent turret, or a similar amount to get away from standard modules.

I'm disappointed they decided not to do vehicle capacitors.

I hope for the sake of everyone, supply depots become significantly more durable.

(sorry I should of made this 1 message) ppl don't like getting killed full stop, they complain about the things tht bug them most but nobody can complain about being shot by rifles, because there wouldn't be a game to play, the most frustrating games were always the best, make standard grenades do a lil more damage to armour vehicles, or make flux grenades hold serious weight against them, bring back sticky bombs. even in battlefield the vehicles were pretty tough and u could run ppl over, my point is it should be tough it already is even without the vehicles, most games have lots of inside coverage dust is all mostly open air, there could be destroyed ships stuck in the open parts of the map to offer cover or buildings in which u can hide in and shoot out the windows then escape though secret tunnels burnt out drop ships or tanks, the mountains have no crevices or cave like spots, there is no sewage tunnels to the facilitys either a few drains in which u could sneak into the centre facility's undetected there should be these in multiple directions making the enemies moves unpredictable, and there should be more sneaky spots for snipers, u should make more weapons tht watch ur ass as well like proximity mines should work against infantry 2 so u can actually take a descent location and concentrate on taking out the armoured vehicles without having to worry about somebody sneaking up on you, and nova knives should take on COD style attack so u can shoot the hell out of someone then quickly knife them without having to flap around trying to change weapons, cos atm the are pretty useless.

Paragraphs and white space are your friends.

This is just too dense to bother reading.

In case anyone missed it - we will be getting an SP refund on all vehicle skills. (No full respec though - vehicle reimbursement only).

Balls.... I'm still saddled with all of the wasted SP's well depending on the tanks determines whether or not I will play 1.7.

Sounds like it will be good though.

Saddled? They're giving you back vehicle points. You can put them into something else if you want, no one's forcing you to put them back in vehicles. Anyways, CCP's working on annnouncement with more details to be posted shortly.

Saddled? They're giving you back vehicle points. You can put them into something else if you want, no one's forcing you to put them back in vehicles. Anyways, CCP's working on annnouncement with more details to be posted shortly.

In case anyone missed it - we will be getting an SP refund on all vehicle skills. (No full respec though - vehicle reimbursement only).

Saddled? They're giving you back vehicle points. You can put them into something else if you want, no one's forcing you to put them back in vehicles. Anyways, CCP's working on annnouncement with more details to be posted shortly.

Naw, I think they'll go for the lolz of placing proximity explosives en mass around depots. May not destroy the depot, but it'll ruin the pilot's day.

But man, you dont understand

Yes, I do. The CPM has been united in pushing for respecs not only to be given during major overhauls like this, but to be offered regularly as a possible source of monetization (with built-in limits to prevent abuse). You don't have to sell me on the merits of a respec - it appears you are confusing my delivering of news for agreement with the news being delivered.

Next, what is with the double SP sinks to get into turrets?

Why do I need to level up turret operation to level 5, to then level large turret operation to level 5, then large missile operation to level 5?

Turret operation provides for nothing other than being an SP sink. Remove it.

Basically, my opinion is that if all the skill is doing is unlocking access to more skills, it should be a 1x skill. Stop creating artificial sinks for our SP.

As long as someone can build a potent AV fit for less than 2m SP, then it is unreasonable to expect pilots to have to spend multi millions just to get a decent turret, or a similar amount to get away from standard modules.

Yes, I do. The CPM has been united in pushing for respecs not only to be given during major overhauls like this, but to be offered regularly as a possible source of monetization (with built-in limits to prevent abuse). You don't have to sell me on the merits of a respec - it appears you are confusing my delivering of news for agreement with the news being delivered.

Yay Assault Dropships! \o/

Hey guys,

We just announced our vehicle respec plan. That should hopefully clear things up a bit in regards to your most commonly asked question in this thread :)

eff your plan.

say no to bpo removal

Hey guys,

We just announced our vehicle respec plan. That should hopefully clear things up a bit in regards to your most commonly asked question in this thread :)

When your turret can instantly kill a soldier, I would ask that you spend just a little more time to skill into it. Stop being such a frickin' baby about it. Take it like a man and don't complain when you're about to get screwed.

We need full respecs , wasted alot of SP on infantry skills since didn't need the SP before!

Whats going to stop blue-berries from firing off all my auxillary gun ammunition? You know they love to jump in your tank and shoot at everything like retards.

spelling error on 'to'
anyway first!!!!! All the love!!! anyone?
no?

excited by the dropships tho

Hello fellow Immortals! It is our pleasure to bring to your attention to some of the changes to updates that weGÇÖve made following some of your feedback! Brought to you by the one and only CCP Wolfman! Check it out in this new dev blog giving you a stat rundown on everything from Vehicle Changes to Turret changes! Hope you like math!

Let me know what you think!

It seems you have a system in place that locks a vehicle to the squad only for 15 seconds, why not boost that to the max game time? If it is a permissions thing, and you need to make it so the enemy can hack it, can't you just exclude the players we're with?
I have no idea how you guys got the work around to lock, but I'm certain the community can agree I'd rather have my vehicle locked from my team indefinitely. Or so I assume.