I just like to say tht if you want vehicles to have a role on the map then u need make them devastating and powerful then offer bigger SAFE ZONES in which infantry can harbour by changing maps offering more coverage from them underground passes trenches, towers with look out points tht u can shoot at dropships from and quickly gain cover, also should offer some high resting places for dropships tht offer cover from other dropships and time to regain ur shields and repair cos there is no safe harbours to stop off and repair vehicles, i honestly think vehicles where great when they were a challenge and were powerful, it was fun trying to sneak up on a tank and stick some sticky bombs on them, using the tech on ur arm as the detonator switch looked awesome, it was fun having to run for cover from a badass dropship, they need to be devastating and ultimately EXSPENSIVE.

I just like to say tht if you want vehicles to have a role on the map then u need make them devastating and powerful then offer bigger SAFE ZONES in which infantry can harbour by changing maps offering more coverage from them underground passes trenches, towers with look out points tht u can shoot at dropships from and quickly gain cover, also should offer some high resting places for dropships tht offer cover from other dropships and time to regain ur shields and repair cos there is no safe harbours to stop off and repair vehicles, i honestly think vehicles where great when they were a challenge and were powerful, it was fun trying to sneak up on a tank and stick some sticky bombs on them, using the tech on ur arm as the detonator switch looked awesome, it was fun having to run for cover from a badass dropship, they need to be devastating and ultimately EXSPENSIVE.

the owner of a vehicle needs to have rights over the driver seat indefinitely, and or have the ability to be a mercenary locking everyone out completely.

Again unrealistic. There is no way that a vehicle deployed for a combat situation would be keyed to a single user permanently when its life expectancy is 10 min. The current setup for delayed access is brilliant! it will allow for squad organization when deploying, and still allows for hacking/commandeering throughout a match

This is a completely unrealistic approach to battles and gameplay. Real battlefields are either open expanses of ground leading to structures, or they are urban environments with a built infrastructure which serves the purpose of the structure. No planer would build underground passages unless they were meant for the building/settlement, trenches would only be dug in a war that was lasting weeks or months, and natural cover for a dropship would only be found in forests/caves/ravines.

I agree that vehicles should offer a challenge, but should be countered appropriately with the correct provisions. I don't want an AV grenade that can take out a tank in a single hit, but I would appreciate one making them second guess sticking around.

Next, what is with the double SP sinks to get into turrets?

Why do I need to level up turret operation to level 5, to then level large turret operation to level 5, then large missile operation to level 5?

Turret operation provides for nothing other than being an SP sink. Remove it.

Basically, my opinion is that if all the skill is doing is unlocking access to more skills, it should be a 1x skill. Stop creating artificial sinks for our SP.

As long as someone can build a potent AV fit for less than 2m SP, then it is unreasonable to expect pilots to have to spend multi millions just to get a decent turret, or a similar amount to get away from standard modules.

I'm disappointed they decided not to do vehicle capacitors.

I hope for the sake of everyone, supply depots become significantly more durable.

(sorry I should of made this 1 message) ppl don't like getting killed full stop, they complain about the things tht bug them most but nobody can complain about being shot by rifles, because there wouldn't be a game to play, the most frustrating games were always the best, make standard grenades do a lil more damage to armour vehicles, or make flux grenades hold serious weight against them, bring back sticky bombs. even in battlefield the vehicles were pretty tough and u could run ppl over, my point is it should be tough it already is even without the vehicles, most games have lots of inside coverage dust is all mostly open air, there could be destroyed ships stuck in the open parts of the map to offer cover or buildings in which u can hide in and shoot out the windows then escape though secret tunnels burnt out drop ships or tanks, the mountains have no crevices or cave like spots, there is no sewage tunnels to the facilitys either a few drains in which u could sneak into the centre facility's undetected there should be these in multiple directions making the enemies moves unpredictable, and there should be more sneaky spots for snipers, u should make more weapons tht watch ur ass as well like proximity mines should work against infantry 2 so u can actually take a descent location and concentrate on taking out the armoured vehicles without having to worry about somebody sneaking up on you, and nova knives should take on COD style attack so u can shoot the hell out of someone then quickly knife them without having to flap around trying to change weapons, cos atm the are pretty useless.

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This is just too dense to bother reading.

In case anyone missed it - we will be getting an SP refund on all vehicle skills. (No full respec though - vehicle reimbursement only).

Balls.... I'm still saddled with all of the wasted SP's well depending on the tanks determines whether or not I will play 1.7.

Sounds like it will be good though.

Saddled? They're giving you back vehicle points. You can put them into something else if you want, no one's forcing you to put them back in vehicles. Anyways, CCP's working on annnouncement with more details to be posted shortly.

Saddled? They're giving you back vehicle points. You can put them into something else if you want, no one's forcing you to put them back in vehicles. Anyways, CCP's working on annnouncement with more details to be posted shortly.

In case anyone missed it - we will be getting an SP refund on all vehicle skills. (No full respec though - vehicle reimbursement only).

Saddled? They're giving you back vehicle points. You can put them into something else if you want, no one's forcing you to put them back in vehicles. Anyways, CCP's working on annnouncement with more details to be posted shortly.

Naw, I think they'll go for the lolz of placing proximity explosives en mass around depots. May not destroy the depot, but it'll ruin the pilot's day.

But man, you dont understand

Yes, I do. The CPM has been united in pushing for respecs not only to be given during major overhauls like this, but to be offered regularly as a possible source of monetization (with built-in limits to prevent abuse). You don't have to sell me on the merits of a respec - it appears you are confusing my delivering of news for agreement with the news being delivered.

Next, what is with the double SP sinks to get into turrets?

Why do I need to level up turret operation to level 5, to then level large turret operation to level 5, then large missile operation to level 5?

Turret operation provides for nothing other than being an SP sink. Remove it.

Basically, my opinion is that if all the skill is doing is unlocking access to more skills, it should be a 1x skill. Stop creating artificial sinks for our SP.

As long as someone can build a potent AV fit for less than 2m SP, then it is unreasonable to expect pilots to have to spend multi millions just to get a decent turret, or a similar amount to get away from standard modules.

Yes, I do. The CPM has been united in pushing for respecs not only to be given during major overhauls like this, but to be offered regularly as a possible source of monetization (with built-in limits to prevent abuse). You don't have to sell me on the merits of a respec - it appears you are confusing my delivering of news for agreement with the news being delivered.

Yay Assault Dropships! \o/

Hey guys,

We just announced our vehicle respec plan. That should hopefully clear things up a bit in regards to your most commonly asked question in this thread :)