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CharCharOdell
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Posted - 2013.11.18 03:59:00 -
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Did we finally decide that they don't deserve a planet anymore? lol. I hope so.
The Learning Coalition now does that whole 'meta 2 and below' PC thing. We only have 2 districts tho so we can only afford a few/week.
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Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
242
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Posted - 2013.11.18 04:01:00 -
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PFC kind of kills the point of Dust Uni. And they're being targeted as easy meat - so they're not training there guys that well.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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Derrith Erador
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
433
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Posted - 2013.11.18 04:06:00 -
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They need greater sensei's and masters to watch over their pupils.
I love kittens with mittens
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Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1310
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Posted - 2013.11.18 05:24:00 -
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I attacked cuz I didn't want my corp to start in pfc...and idk the other corps that are there? It was just dust uni AE and us
I'm everyone's type
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1211
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Posted - 2013.11.18 07:15:00 -
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we planned to give our districts away just before we were accosted by AE.
we pulled out of PC because its an administrative nightmare for our small dedicated staff to to train people in the most laughable part of the game.
PC is a joke as it is right now. it's just an isk farm.
we at d uni are not concerned with lining our pockets, only training new mercs so that bigger corps like molon labe and OSG get quality players.
you don't need a planet to do this. as far as PC goes there are better ways to teach it without holding a planet.
and with FW getting a revamp most of our more advanced lessons will be done there.
I really don't understand why another training corp has such disdain for a like minded corp.
I chalk it up to envy and jealousy and I pitty that mentality.
but it doesn't matter the uni shall persevere even in the face of this new unfounded hate we have garnered from a few.
in closing, though I am bemused by the learning coalitions need to flame I still salute them for emulating what the uni founded and applaud there efforts to mimic us.
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daishi mk03
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
365
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Posted - 2013.11.18 07:20:00 -
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Burn Dust University down. |
SCRUB adub
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2013.11.18 07:21:00 -
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daishi mk03 wrote:Burn Dust University down.
lol I cant imagine that could ever happened. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1212
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Posted - 2013.11.18 07:27:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:PFC kind of kills the point of Dust Uni. And they're being targeted as easy meat - so they're not training there guys that well.
we actually train them quite well.
tough words calling 2 week old players easy meat...
I kind of expected more from a guy who is supposedly noob friendly.
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Linqded
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.11.18 07:33:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:PFC kind of kills the point of Dust Uni. And they're being targeted as easy meat - so they're not training there guys that well.
See sota I knew you were just community trash. I bet dust university not only stays around longer but will also be remembered long after youre forgotten. |
Cpt Merdock
The Exemplars
Top Men.
119
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Posted - 2013.11.18 07:37:00 -
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Linqded wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:PFC kind of kills the point of Dust Uni. And they're being targeted as easy meat - so they're not training there guys that well. See sota I knew you were just community trash. I bet dust university not only stays around longer but will also be remembered long after youre forgotten.
To be honest, two week old players are easy meat. Not saying its nice, or the proper thing to say because its not their fault they are new. No need to call Sota trash just for speaking his mind. I rather someone insult me, and be honest than someone compliment me and lie. |
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Linqded
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.11.18 07:45:00 -
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Cpt Merdock wrote:Linqded wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:PFC kind of kills the point of Dust Uni. And they're being targeted as easy meat - so they're not training there guys that well. See sota I knew you were just community trash. I bet dust university not only stays around longer but will also be remembered long after youre forgotten. To be honest, two week old players are easy meat. Not saying its nice, or the proper thing to say because its not their fault they are new. No need to call Sota trash just for speaking his mind. I rather someone insult me, and be honest than someone compliment me and lie.
and I prefer civility at all times... but people like this guy are an impediment to the growth of the dust community. and it sickens me.
how's that for honesty? |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1218
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Posted - 2013.11.18 07:51:00 -
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Linqded wrote:Cpt Merdock wrote:Linqded wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:PFC kind of kills the point of Dust Uni. And they're being targeted as easy meat - so they're not training there guys that well. See sota I knew you were just community trash. I bet dust university not only stays around longer but will also be remembered long after youre forgotten. To be honest, two week old players are easy meat. Not saying its nice, or the proper thing to say because its not their fault they are new. No need to call Sota trash just for speaking his mind. I rather someone insult me, and be honest than someone compliment me and lie. and I prefer civility at all times... but people like this guy are an impediment to the growth of the dust community. and it sickens me. how's that for honesty?
I appreciate your sentiment.
luckily these guys like mr. pop cant extinguish us. all they did was take what we were gonna give away...
/shrug
now they cant do anything and the uni will continue on.
thank you for your support.
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
253
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Posted - 2013.11.18 07:51:00 -
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Linqded wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:PFC kind of kills the point of Dust Uni. And they're being targeted as easy meat - so they're not training there guys that well. See sota I knew you were just community trash. I bet dust university not only stays around longer but will also be remembered long after youre forgotten.
I'm giving this a like - simply because I like how dumb this statement is. Dust University is not training people - PERIOD. Do you see how well they preform in PC? Or anywhere? PFC is a much more organized and reasonable method of teaching people how to play competitively. And if Dust Uni cannot do that they do not need PC districts. They should stick to PFC districts. All they're doing is giving people a word of mouth help ANY CORP COULD GIVE.
You, sir, are ******* ********. Sorry I wasted my time reasoning with you. You're nothing but another fanatic who wants to burden vets with all there problems and troubles.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
253
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Posted - 2013.11.18 07:55:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Linqded wrote:Cpt Merdock wrote:Linqded wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:PFC kind of kills the point of Dust Uni. And they're being targeted as easy meat - so they're not training there guys that well. See sota I knew you were just community trash. I bet dust university not only stays around longer but will also be remembered long after youre forgotten. To be honest, two week old players are easy meat. Not saying its nice, or the proper thing to say because its not their fault they are new. No need to call Sota trash just for speaking his mind. I rather someone insult me, and be honest than someone compliment me and lie. and I prefer civility at all times... but people like this guy are an impediment to the growth of the dust community. and it sickens me. how's that for honesty? I appreciate your sentiment. luckily these guys like mr. pop cant extinguish us. all they did was take what we were gonna give away... /shrug now they cant do anything and the uni will continue on. thank you for your support.
Don't misunderstand me - what you're doing is great. You're just not special. If you had any competent teams then maybe you could get somewhere 'training' others. But the only thing you're really doing is what anyone else could do - and does. Just because top corps don't go out of there way to do it like you guys doesn't prove or mean anything.
And nothing I said implies you guys should stop trying or die off. Corps wanting to help others are great - but do you really need PC districts to do so?
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1218
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Posted - 2013.11.18 07:55:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Linqded wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:PFC kind of kills the point of Dust Uni. And they're being targeted as easy meat - so they're not training there guys that well. See sota I knew you were just community trash. I bet dust university not only stays around longer but will also be remembered long after youre forgotten. I'm giving this a like - simply because I like how dumb this statement is. Dust University is not training people - PERIOD. Do you see how well they preform in PC? Or anywhere? PFC is a much more organized and reasonable method of teaching people how to play competitively. And if Dust Uni cannot do that they do not need PC districts. They should stick to PFC districts. All they're doing is giving people a word of mouth help ANY CORP COULD GIVE. You, sir, are ******* ********. Sorry I wasted my time reasoning with you. You're nothing but another fanatic who wants to burden vets with all there problems and troubles.
umm... we let you have those districts... we didn't even show up....like I said you only took what we were giving away.
your welcome.
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
253
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Posted - 2013.11.18 07:56:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:PFC kind of kills the point of Dust Uni. And they're being targeted as easy meat - so they're not training there guys that well. we actually train them quite well. tough words calling 2 week old players easy meat... I kind of expected more from a guy who is supposedly noob friendly.
Noob friendly in PUBS. PC is a whole nother ball game. Not a place for people who aren't ready.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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Linqded
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2013.11.18 07:57:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Linqded wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:PFC kind of kills the point of Dust Uni. And they're being targeted as easy meat - so they're not training there guys that well. See sota I knew you were just community trash. I bet dust university not only stays around longer but will also be remembered long after youre forgotten. I'm giving this a like - simply because I like how dumb this statement is. Dust University is not training people - PERIOD. Do you see how well they preform in PC? Or anywhere? PFC is a much more organized and reasonable method of teaching people how to play competitively. And if Dust Uni cannot do that they do not need PC districts. They should stick to PFC districts. All they're doing is giving people a word of mouth help ANY CORP COULD GIVE. You, sir, are ******* ********. Sorry I wasted my time reasoning with you. You're nothing but another fanatic who wants to burden vets with all there problems and troubles.
I'm also sorry I wasted my time talking to a try hard! |
SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
253
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Posted - 2013.11.18 07:57:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Linqded wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:PFC kind of kills the point of Dust Uni. And they're being targeted as easy meat - so they're not training there guys that well. See sota I knew you were just community trash. I bet dust university not only stays around longer but will also be remembered long after youre forgotten. I'm giving this a like - simply because I like how dumb this statement is. Dust University is not training people - PERIOD. Do you see how well they preform in PC? Or anywhere? PFC is a much more organized and reasonable method of teaching people how to play competitively. And if Dust Uni cannot do that they do not need PC districts. They should stick to PFC districts. All they're doing is giving people a word of mouth help ANY CORP COULD GIVE. You, sir, are ******* ********. Sorry I wasted my time reasoning with you. You're nothing but another fanatic who wants to burden vets with all there problems and troubles. umm... we let you have those districts... we didn't even show up....like I said you only took what we were giving away. your welcome.
You mean to another another corp. And are you saying if you showed up you could of won? Because, if my memory serves, the first match for that district, you barely killed 30 clones before your MCC was destroyed.
If you got a decent team I haven't seen it.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
254
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Posted - 2013.11.18 07:58:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:we planned to give our districts away just before we were accosted by AE.
we pulled out of PC because its an administrative nightmare for our small dedicated staff to train people in the most laughable part of the game.
PC is a joke as it is right now. it's just an isk farm.
we at d uni are not concerned with lining our pockets, only training new mercs so that bigger corps like molon labe and OSG get quality players.
you don't need a planet to do this. as far as PC goes there are better ways to teach it without holding a planet.
and with FW getting a revamp most of our more advanced lessons will be done there.
I really don't understand why another training corp has such disdain for a like minded corp.
I chalk it up to envy and jealousy and I pitty that mentality.
but it doesn't matter the uni shall persevere even in the face of this new unfounded hate we have garnered from a few.
in closing, though I am bemused by the learning coalitions need to flame I still salute them for emulating what the uni founded and applaud there efforts to mimic us.
oh - I missed this post. My bad. o.0
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
254
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Posted - 2013.11.18 08:01:00 -
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Linqded wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Linqded wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:PFC kind of kills the point of Dust Uni. And they're being targeted as easy meat - so they're not training there guys that well. See sota I knew you were just community trash. I bet dust university not only stays around longer but will also be remembered long after youre forgotten. I'm giving this a like - simply because I like how dumb this statement is. Dust University is not training people - PERIOD. Do you see how well they preform in PC? Or anywhere? PFC is a much more organized and reasonable method of teaching people how to play competitively. And if Dust Uni cannot do that they do not need PC districts. They should stick to PFC districts. All they're doing is giving people a word of mouth help ANY CORP COULD GIVE. You, sir, are ******* ********. Sorry I wasted my time reasoning with you. You're nothing but another fanatic who wants to burden vets with all there problems and troubles. I'm also sorry I wasted my time talking to a try hard!
What's wrong with a try hard? It means I'm giving this game my all - while you're just crying. I'm not going to hold every single persons hand. I only tried to reason with you because Vets aren't all the villains they are visioned to be. We all help in our own ways - for a long time.
It's scrubs like you who try to villainies everything that's as bad for this game as anything else. Why blame us for CCP's bad mechanics?
I just helped a squad out today showing them the ropes on how to better enjoy there playstyles - and they were thankful, saying how awesome this game is. What the **** do you do besides cry on the forums? It's because I try hard I can help people in many ways.
Now hop off my **** scrub.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1218
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Posted - 2013.11.18 08:03:00 -
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the key phrase here is "what anyone else COULD do"
....but doesn't.
its a shame you guys don't back us up since you apparently have all the knowledge instead of trying to break us or dismiss us.
what does that solve.
since your corp is so great you could come to the uni and do guest lectures or even take squads of our more advanced players out to train.
but instead you just troll the forums.
why don't you start doing what you COULD do. or just respectfully get out of our way...
I don't see the point of this thread other than to trash talk.
and I don't see the point of your posts other than to gloat about beating noobs who didn't even deign to show up to the match.
do you?
I appreciate your sentiment.
luckily these guys like mr. pop cant extinguish us. all they did was take what we were gonna give away...
/shrug
now they cant do anything and the uni will continue on.
thank you for your support.[/quote]
Don't misunderstand me - what you're doing is great. You're just not special. If you had any competent teams then maybe you could get somewhere 'training' others. But the only thing you're really doing is what anyone else could do - and does. Just because top corps don't go out of there way to do it like you guys doesn't prove or mean anything.
And nothing I said implies you guys should stop trying or die off. Corps wanting to help others are great - but do you really need PC districts to do so?[/quote]
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
254
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Posted - 2013.11.18 08:06:00 -
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Sorry Seymor - I didn't read everything through and jumped down you with bad conclusions.
I really, really am sorry for my poor conduct.
If you ever need help Dust Uni can always hit me up. I'd be glad to just squad up with your guys and just run around exchanging advice. Even noobs sometimes find gems we vets miss that helps us.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1218
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Posted - 2013.11.18 08:07:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Sorry Seymor - I didn't read everything through and jumped down you with bad conclusions.
I really, really am sorry for my poor conduct.
If you ever need help Dust Uni can always hit me up. I'd be glad to just squad up with your guys and just run around exchanging advice. Even noobs sometimes find gems we vets miss that helps us.
I may take you up on that offer
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
254
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Posted - 2013.11.18 08:09:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Sorry Seymor - I didn't read everything through and jumped down you with bad conclusions.
I really, really am sorry for my poor conduct.
If you ever need help Dust Uni can always hit me up. I'd be glad to just squad up with your guys and just run around exchanging advice. Even noobs sometimes find gems we vets miss that helps us. I may take you up on that offer
Sounds like a date. 
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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Naedeus
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
258
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Posted - 2013.11.18 08:09:00 -
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Did Seymor really just make Sota Pop apologize?
Whoa... |
SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
256
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Posted - 2013.11.18 08:11:00 -
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Naedeus wrote:Did Seymor really just make Sota Pop apologize?
Whoa...
OSG had a squad in FW 2 days ago that carried a bunch of AV nades. I haven't been stomped on that hard in a while. My poor car - <\3
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Naedeus
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
258
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Posted - 2013.11.18 08:17:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Naedeus wrote:Did Seymor really just make Sota Pop apologize?
Whoa... OSG had a squad in FW 2 days ago that carried a bunch of AV nades. I haven't been stomped on that hard in a while. My poor car - <\3
Two days ago I was still part of D-UNI 
But honestly, to contribute to this post rather than derailing it.
This whole spit-spat was started and pushed by the Learning Coalition, all because a couple of their 'leading members' have a bitter taste in their mouths when they were part of Dust University. It's not rocket science, especially with Mister O'Dell making these sort of posts.
On top of that, PC has nothing to contribute for our communities new members. Seriously... what benefit does PC have? Sure at the moment it's the only game mode that has friendly fire enabled, but once FW 2.0 comes out... PC won't really have any benefits for training corporations. The directors of D-UNI decided to pull out of PC because it was too stressful, and members inside the corporation weren't actually interested in it. |
SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
257
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Posted - 2013.11.18 08:25:00 -
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Naedeus wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Naedeus wrote:Did Seymor really just make Sota Pop apologize?
Whoa... OSG had a squad in FW 2 days ago that carried a bunch of AV nades. I haven't been stomped on that hard in a while. My poor car - <\3 Two days ago I was still part of D-UNI But honestly, to contribute to this post rather than derailing it. This whole spit-spat was started and pushed by the Learning Coalition, all because a couple of their 'leading members' have a bitter taste in their mouths when they were part of Dust University. It's not rocket science, especially with Mister O'Dell making these sort of posts. On top of that, PC has nothing to contribute for our communities new members. Seriously... what benefit does PC have? Sure at the moment it's the only game mode that has friendly fire enabled, but once FW 2.0 comes out... PC won't really have any benefits for training corporations. The directors of D-UNI decided to pull out of PC because it was too stressful, and members inside the corporation weren't actually interested in it.
Honestly - the only way to train is trial by fire. But there's a down-side to how Dust Uni does it - or so I would assume. Part of the training is learning cohesion with your fellow mates to better match them and work together. If you're always training with different people then the cohesion can become unstable.
Though if you run all of them enough using the same strategies I'm sure they'd pick up on the dos and don'ts. But after being in PC for half a year now - it's just my opinion that the best way to train is to get your best suit possible and join a real team and practice with them constantly.
But - again - just my opinion. I have no idea how Dust Uni actually trains people.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1219
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Posted - 2013.11.18 08:29:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Sorry Seymor - I didn't read everything through and jumped down you with bad conclusions.
I really, really am sorry for my poor conduct.
If you ever need help Dust Uni can always hit me up. I'd be glad to just squad up with your guys and just run around exchanging advice. Even noobs sometimes find gems we vets miss that helps us. I may take you up on that offer Sounds like a date.
I invite you and any others interested in interacting with our new members for training to add comms.d-uni to your chat bar.
also I didn't mention this before (its late I should be in bed) but thank you for the apology.
graciously accepted.
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
258
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Posted - 2013.11.18 08:32:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Sorry Seymor - I didn't read everything through and jumped down you with bad conclusions.
I really, really am sorry for my poor conduct.
If you ever need help Dust Uni can always hit me up. I'd be glad to just squad up with your guys and just run around exchanging advice. Even noobs sometimes find gems we vets miss that helps us. I may take you up on that offer Sounds like a date. I invite you and any others interested in interacting with our new members for training to add comms.d-uni to your chat bar. also I didn't mention this before (its late I should be in bed) but thank you for the apology. graciously accepted.
comms.d-uni ? I'll add it next time I get on.
And thank you for accepting my apology.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1220
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Posted - 2013.11.18 08:41:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Naedeus wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Naedeus wrote:Did Seymor really just make Sota Pop apologize?
Whoa... OSG had a squad in FW 2 days ago that carried a bunch of AV nades. I haven't been stomped on that hard in a while. My poor car - <\3 Two days ago I was still part of D-UNI But honestly, to contribute to this post rather than derailing it. This whole spit-spat was started and pushed by the Learning Coalition, all because a couple of their 'leading members' have a bitter taste in their mouths when they were part of Dust University. It's not rocket science, especially with Mister O'Dell making these sort of posts. On top of that, PC has nothing to contribute for our communities new members. Seriously... what benefit does PC have? Sure at the moment it's the only game mode that has friendly fire enabled, but once FW 2.0 comes out... PC won't really have any benefits for training corporations. The directors of D-UNI decided to pull out of PC because it was too stressful, and members inside the corporation weren't actually interested in it. Honestly - the only way to train is trial by fire. But there's a down-side to how Dust Uni does it - or so I would assume. Part of the training is learning cohesion with your fellow mates to better match them and work together. If you're always training with different people then the cohesion can become unstable. Though if you run all of them enough using the same strategies I'm sure they'd pick up on the dos and don'ts. But after being in PC for half a year now - it's just my opinion that the best way to train is to get your best suit possible and join a real team and practice with them constantly. But - again - just my opinion. I have no idea how Dust Uni actually trains people.
this is great advice, and the leadership does realize that coming to PC with slapped together squads of players who don't know each others playstyle is a disaster waiting to happen.
but this is where I think we may be misunderstood....
the very nature of our corp is to train the basics and some advanced level mechanics.... but its mostly basics.
we are a neutral training corp with no desire of being a player in PC.
getting into PC was all thanks to Truexer0z who just wanted to show new players what they are training towards and to give those corps on the brink of being ready for competitive PC a chance to get their feet wet in it before facing the big dogs.
purely charitable. that's it.
we BELIEVE in this game and its future and we just want to do our part in cultivating the community.
we love dust and eve.
having squads that always play together would be great ( we have plans to do this) but our staff is to small to serve our large corp in this manner at this time.
but we do squad up with our players often, answer their questions, and show them squad tactics.
we hold lectures, even have members of CCP come in to talk with our members.
we try to prepare a merc to join a competitive corp or to start their own.
we want our players to move on.
so cohesive squads becomes a conundrum:
how do you have a dedicated squad of mercs in a corp that wants you to go to another corp?
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Naedeus
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
259
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Posted - 2013.11.18 08:41:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:
Honestly - the only way to train is trial by fire. But there's a down-side to how Dust Uni does it - or so I would assume. Part of the training is learning cohesion with your fellow mates to better match them and work together. If you're always training with different people then the cohesion can become unstable.
Though if you run all of them enough using the same strategies I'm sure they'd pick up on the dos and don'ts. But after being in PC for half a year now - it's just my opinion that the best way to train is to get your best suit possible and join a real team and practice with them constantly.
But - again - just my opinion. I have no idea how Dust Uni actually trains people.
Not jumping at you, you're opinion is certainly correct. Not everyone is going to learn the same way as everyone else. Some will learn by reading guides, others will learn by seeing - then doing - and still others will learn by throwing themselves at the fray to figure out the do's and don'ts of DUST 514.
D-UNI has a lot of ways they train people, lectures happen to be one of our known avenues. So if you're up to it, Sota, you can contact their Director of Education (Sherrad Ventonii) about doing a guest lecture in whatever it is you specialize in. Lectures are typically 45 minutes with a 15 minute Q&A session at the end. |
SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
260
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Posted - 2013.11.18 08:53:00 -
[33] - Quote
Seymor Krelborn wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Naedeus wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Naedeus wrote:Did Seymor really just make Sota Pop apologize?
Whoa... OSG had a squad in FW 2 days ago that carried a bunch of AV nades. I haven't been stomped on that hard in a while. My poor car - <\3 Two days ago I was still part of D-UNI But honestly, to contribute to this post rather than derailing it. This whole spit-spat was started and pushed by the Learning Coalition, all because a couple of their 'leading members' have a bitter taste in their mouths when they were part of Dust University. It's not rocket science, especially with Mister O'Dell making these sort of posts. On top of that, PC has nothing to contribute for our communities new members. Seriously... what benefit does PC have? Sure at the moment it's the only game mode that has friendly fire enabled, but once FW 2.0 comes out... PC won't really have any benefits for training corporations. The directors of D-UNI decided to pull out of PC because it was too stressful, and members inside the corporation weren't actually interested in it. Honestly - the only way to train is trial by fire. But there's a down-side to how Dust Uni does it - or so I would assume. Part of the training is learning cohesion with your fellow mates to better match them and work together. If you're always training with different people then the cohesion can become unstable. Though if you run all of them enough using the same strategies I'm sure they'd pick up on the dos and don'ts. But after being in PC for half a year now - it's just my opinion that the best way to train is to get your best suit possible and join a real team and practice with them constantly. But - again - just my opinion. I have no idea how Dust Uni actually trains people. this is great advice, and the leadership does realize that coming to PC with slapped together squads of players who don't know each others playstyle is a disaster waiting to happen. but this is where I think we may be misunderstood.... the very nature of our corp is to train the basics and some advanced level mechanics.... but its mostly basics. we are a neutral training corp with no desire of being a player in PC. getting into PC was all thanks to Truexer0z who just wanted to show new players what they are training towards and to give those corps on the brink of being ready for competitive PC a chance to get their feet wet in it before facing the big dogs. purely charitable. that's it. we BELIEVE in this game and its future and we just want to do our part in cultivating the community. we love dust and eve. having squads that always play together would be great ( we have plans to do this) but our staff is to small to serve our large corp in this manner at this time. but we do squad up with our players often, answer their questions, and show them squad tactics. we hold lectures, even have members of CCP come in to talk with our members. we try to prepare a merc to join a competitive corp or to start their own. we want our players to move on. so cohesive squads becomes a conundrum: how do you have a dedicated squad of mercs in a corp that wants you to go to another corp?
I understand better now, thanks for taking the time to explain. Sounds like the best solution for you guys on the squad issue is to handle it like military drills - it only takes a few times seeing it done before you catch on. "Go here, make sure this spot is clear, scan, set up links in spots here for these reasons. Move to this point, clear it, and see how your team is pushing. Keep close, never leaving each other more then shooting distance." sort of thing. It helps create cohesion quicker - and is a method both STB and Imps used in the past on new recruits to catch them up quickly to be PC ready.
Just an idea though - you probably already do this.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
260
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Posted - 2013.11.18 08:58:00 -
[34] - Quote
Naedeus wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:
Honestly - the only way to train is trial by fire. But there's a down-side to how Dust Uni does it - or so I would assume. Part of the training is learning cohesion with your fellow mates to better match them and work together. If you're always training with different people then the cohesion can become unstable.
Though if you run all of them enough using the same strategies I'm sure they'd pick up on the dos and don'ts. But after being in PC for half a year now - it's just my opinion that the best way to train is to get your best suit possible and join a real team and practice with them constantly.
But - again - just my opinion. I have no idea how Dust Uni actually trains people.
Not jumping at you, you're opinion is certainly correct. Not everyone is going to learn the same way as everyone else. Some will learn by reading guides, others will learn by seeing - then doing - and still others will learn by throwing themselves at the fray to figure out the do's and don'ts of DUST 514. D-UNI has a lot of ways they train people, lectures happen to be one of our known avenues. So if you're up to it, Sota, you can contact their Director of Education (Sherrad Ventonii) about doing a guest lecture in whatever it is you specialize in. Lectures are typically 45 minutes with a 15 minute Q&A session at the end.
I'll do just that - I'll also hit up friends to see if they're interested in joining me in helping. I'll get them to join the channel so then can help on there free time as well. No promises though, a lot of people are frustrated with the game.
But I definitely want to contribute a bit more. I even plan to make my own corp eventually who won't be just vets, but people of like minded agendas of improving themselves.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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Naedeus
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
260
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Posted - 2013.11.18 09:21:00 -
[35] - Quote
SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:
I'll do just that - I'll also hit up friends to see if they're interested in joining me in helping. I'll get them to join the channel so then can help on there free time as well. No promises though, a lot of people are frustrated with the game.
But I definitely want to contribute a bit more. I even plan to make my own corp eventually who won't be just vets, but people of like minded agendas of improving themselves.
Honestly, we've all gotten to that frustration bit. Those of us who are still around (at least in terms of veteran players) are here either because they like inflicting pain on themselves, or because they actually care for the potential this game has. Sticking through it, and helping newer players based on our experiences is really a good way to retain players, in my opinion.
But either way, good luck on your endeavor to create a corporation that's focused on improving themselves. Honestly, people like destroying things that can benefit others, and it would not surprise me if you had a few enemies quietly plotting, especially now with this particular statement you came forwards with. Don't want to be that guy, but I'll be that guy for the sake of it being four in the morning (at the time of this post.) The meta-game is alive, and well. |
SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
261
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Posted - 2013.11.18 09:34:00 -
[36] - Quote
Naedeus wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:
I'll do just that - I'll also hit up friends to see if they're interested in joining me in helping. I'll get them to join the channel so then can help on there free time as well. No promises though, a lot of people are frustrated with the game.
But I definitely want to contribute a bit more. I even plan to make my own corp eventually who won't be just vets, but people of like minded agendas of improving themselves.
Honestly, we've all gotten to that frustration bit. Those of us who are still around (at least in terms of veteran players) are here either because they like inflicting pain on themselves, or because they actually care for the potential this game has. Sticking through it, and helping newer players based on our experiences is really a good way to retain players, in my opinion. But either way, good luck on your endeavor to create a corporation that's focused on improving themselves. Honestly, people like destroying things that can benefit others, and it would not surprise me if you had a few enemies quietly plotting, especially now with this particular statement you came forwards with. Don't want to be that guy, but I'll be that guy for the sake of it being four in the morning (at the time of this post.) The meta-game is alive, and well.
Any corp I make will have security nets. AE and OH would probably leave me alone and I could get ringers pretty easily to beat most other corps. Guys i've played with for over a year and with each other.
My only problem is funding. Lol
And my public image is a problem too - too much trolling. Bout time I toned it down.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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Ryme Intrinseca
Seraphim Auxiliaries
230
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Posted - 2013.11.18 09:54:00 -
[37] - Quote
This thread is a lot more civilized than I was expecting from the title.
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Omareth Nasadra
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
158
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Posted - 2013.11.18 10:17:00 -
[38] - Quote
SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Naedeus wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:
I'll do just that - I'll also hit up friends to see if they're interested in joining me in helping. I'll get them to join the channel so then can help on there free time as well. No promises though, a lot of people are frustrated with the game.
But I definitely want to contribute a bit more. I even plan to make my own corp eventually who won't be just vets, but people of like minded agendas of improving themselves.
Honestly, we've all gotten to that frustration bit. Those of us who are still around (at least in terms of veteran players) are here either because they like inflicting pain on themselves, or because they actually care for the potential this game has. Sticking through it, and helping newer players based on our experiences is really a good way to retain players, in my opinion. But either way, good luck on your endeavor to create a corporation that's focused on improving themselves. Honestly, people like destroying things that can benefit others, and it would not surprise me if you had a few enemies quietly plotting, especially now with this particular statement you came forwards with. Don't want to be that guy, but I'll be that guy for the sake of it being four in the morning (at the time of this post.) The meta-game is alive, and well. Any corp I make will have security nets. AE and OH would probably leave me alone and I could get ringers pretty easily to beat most other corps. Guys i've played with for over a year and with each other. My only problem is funding. Lol And my public image is a problem too - too much trolling. Bout time I toned it down.
i'd say this thread already helped your rep a lot, +1 sota
Minmatar, In rust we trust!!!
Omareth Nasadra/Erynyes
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Code Slucid
Geisha Girls
52
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Posted - 2013.11.18 11:37:00 -
[39] - Quote
I wanna helip new players! I've been in ALOT of PC's and!!! been highly rank as one of the best logi! I have no mic  but I type very quick! o/ PS:!!!!! I can't leave my corp atm, helping this japanese corp atm ^.^ |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
5146
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Posted - 2013.11.18 12:03:00 -
[40] - Quote
/popcorn
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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IceShifter Childhaspawn
DUST University
Ivy League
401
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Posted - 2013.11.18 12:05:00 -
[41] - Quote
I like that this thread has turned on its heel. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1688
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Posted - 2013.11.18 12:20:00 -
[42] - Quote
We decided to opt out of PC due to some political bull$#!+ from another corp.
As many of you are aware, we do meta 2 PC matches and "all out" PC matches wich have a no limits rule.
As many of you also know, we are a training corp, not many people other than our fine staff have the ability to field proto gear/modules and weapons etc. this results in the no limits matches being mostly a proto stomp by the other team (unless it was decided otherwise that adv & below was the thresh-hold).
We informed our "students"/members that we are abandoning PC for the time being. Many of our members were outraged at this and as a result, we had a frenzy of people join in our last match.......wich I got dced from (stupid internet). We still hold training events and Q-syncs so our members aren't completely in the dark. As far as I'm concerned FW is a suitable replacement for PC.
We will not stop training with other corps and as such if you wish to set up a training match on your corps own turf (not to mention the fact we don't have any turf anymore) simply mail one of our directors.
But that's just my side of the story.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
I'll take your Iskies
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1688
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Posted - 2013.11.18 12:28:00 -
[43] - Quote
CharCharOdell wrote:Did we finally decide that they don't deserve a planet anymore? lol. I hope so.
The Learning Coalition now does that whole 'meta 2 and below' PC thing. We only have 2 districts tho so we can only afford a few/week.
Sorry char char, I can't tell wich corp your in.....I'm sure I could tell you a few things about your corp that would make you upset......
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
I'll take your Iskies
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843 Epidemic
452
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Posted - 2013.11.18 12:40:00 -
[44] - Quote
Seymor and Dust Uni, contact me or 843 Nerfnut96 if you ever would like to run training matches. We would like to submit some of our newer guys for training I'm sure.
I have always admired the concept of Dust University, though I must admit I know little of what actually transpires within the secretive walls of the corporation. I'd like to have a chat with a director, or CEO if possible.
Send me a message in game when you're on. You'll see my contact details in the signature down below.
Keep training, lads. o7
843-BANE
Director // Ranking Officer // BurgezzE.T.F
Contact me here
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CharCharOdell
1557
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:28:00 -
[45] - Quote
someone hijacked SoTa's account. I'm almost sure, now. haha
Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ
Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó
Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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CharCharOdell
1557
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:29:00 -
[46] - Quote
Fire of Prometheus wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:Did we finally decide that they don't deserve a planet anymore? lol. I hope so.
The Learning Coalition now does that whole 'meta 2 and below' PC thing. We only have 2 districts tho so we can only afford a few/week. Sorry char char, I can't tell wich corp your in.....I'm sure I could tell you a few things about your corp that would make you upset......
You are welcome to pick one of the many corps I'm involved with, as I only move corps for very specific reasons.
Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ
Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó
Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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Major Skeptic
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:33:00 -
[47] - Quote
[/quote]
Don't misunderstand me - what you're doing is great. You're just not special. If you had any competent teams then maybe you could get somewhere 'training' others. But the only thing you're really doing is what anyone else could do - and does. Just because top corps don't go out of there way to do it like you guys doesn't prove or mean anything.
And nothing I said implies you guys should stop trying or die off. Corps wanting to help others are great - but do you really need PC districts to do so?[/quote]
He said they didn't?
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IceShifter Childhaspawn
DUST University
Ivy League
401
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:12:00 -
[48] - Quote
Don't misunderstand me - what you're doing is great. You're just not special. If you had any competent teams then maybe you could get somewhere 'training' others. But the only thing you're really doing is what anyone else could do - and does. Just because top corps don't go out of there way to do it like you guys doesn't prove or mean anything.
And nothing I said implies you guys should stop trying or die off. Corps wanting to help others are great - but do you really need PC districts to do so?[/quote]
He said they didn't?
[/quote]
Yeah, we abandoned them.
Was fun while it was up but holy crap is it hard to do diplomatically-neutral, civil-minded PC matches. |
IceShifter Childhaspawn
DUST University
Ivy League
401
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:14:00 -
[49] - Quote
843 Epidemic wrote:Seymor and Dust Uni, contact me or 843 Nerfnut96 if you ever would like to run training matches. We would like to submit some of our newer guys for training I'm sure.
I have always admired the concept of Dust University, though I must admit I know little of what actually transpires within the secretive walls of the corporation. I'd like to have a chat with a director, or CEO if possible.
Send me a message in game when you're on. You'll see my contact details in the signature down below.
Keep training, lads. o7
CEO is Kevall Longstride
Director you want to talk to is TruXer0
Tru has many different accounts, but Ill pass it along that you are looking for him. |
Gildart Lightray
Eternal Beings
48
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:52:00 -
[50] - Quote
What's the public channel?
Forum Warrior lvl. 0
Rank : Trollawon / I'm doing it wrong :)
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1228
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:53:00 -
[51] - Quote
Gildart Lightray wrote:What's the public channel?
comms.d-uni
o7
insert witty or profound statement here _______.
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1228
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:58:00 -
[52] - Quote
CharCharOdell wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:Did we finally decide that they don't deserve a planet anymore? lol. I hope so.
The Learning Coalition now does that whole 'meta 2 and below' PC thing. We only have 2 districts tho so we can only afford a few/week. Sorry char char, I can't tell wich corp your in.....I'm sure I could tell you a few things about your corp that would make you upset...... You are welcome to pick one of the many corps I'm involved with because I don't consider myself part of any one group.
mr. Odell, though it was not you intention I thank you for giving the university another platform to improve our community relations.
this thread has done some good, though out of respect for the women in my life I must say I disagree with the way you throw such a violent word like "****" around so carelessly. perhaps you can change the thread title out of respect for women everywhere.
also when you are done with the useless flaming war the university would be happy to work with your corp in furthering our mutual goal of providing a new player experience and training ground for mercs.
o7
insert witty or profound statement here _______.
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Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1312
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Posted - 2013.11.18 16:07:00 -
[53] - Quote
Its just good buisness....you just happend to be on the receiving end of us and AE
I'm everyone's type
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1233
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Posted - 2013.11.18 16:20:00 -
[54] - Quote
Heimdallr69 wrote:Its just good buisness....you just happend to be on the receiving end of us and AE
no publicity is bad publicity.
It's good to know we are worthy of the attention.
this has only further motivated our corp to continue with our mission.
thank you.
o7
insert witty or profound statement here _______.
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Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1312
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Posted - 2013.11.18 16:29:00 -
[55] - Quote
Seymor Krelborn wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Its just good buisness....you just happend to be on the receiving end of us and AE no publicity is bad publicity. It's good to know we are worthy of the attention. this has only further motivated our corp to continue with our mission. thank you. o7
You guys no showed the second battle I was sad...that was my corps first pc...I wanted the district but not like that...I still hope you guys re attack us someday
I'm everyone's type
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COHLE
DUST University
Ivy League
4
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Posted - 2013.11.18 17:02:00 -
[56] - Quote
Looks like I'm late to the party, AGAIN
Anyway I just logged in today and found out we were out of the PC battles and I was a little saddened but I think FW 2.0 will give all of us in the Education Department the opportunity to instruct more people.
D-Uni Dropship Instructor
POWER ABSOLUTE
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TrueXer0z
DUST University
Ivy League
240
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Posted - 2013.11.18 17:15:00 -
[57] - Quote
lol this thread was an enjoyable read.
PC was fun, but was too much work. So we pulled out. Simple as that. Anyone who attacked our districts next was going to get them really.
We will be continuing to do PC matches, but by dropping clone packs on districts with friendly corps who are interested in our training match programs.
We have been very recluse up to this point because we have been trying to develop a solid foundation for our corporation to stand on. With programs that will help new players learn the fundamentals of the game at the same time allowing them to branch out into more focused avenues of game play. This takes time. Eve University has had almost 10 years to prefect and refine their programs. We have had less then a year, but are doing the best that we can provided the limitations of Dust 514.
We encourage our members to move on once they feel they have learned enough to start participating in competitive matches. Considering that every corporation has different ways of doing things we feel that it is our goal to provide information that would be expected from those organizations. This is accomplished by our certification programs which ensure that those who are able to pass the evaluations have a higher understanding what might be expected of them within competitive corporations.
We are just starting to reach out to the community by doing public lectures, orientations, & joint operations with supportive organizations. We ask that those of you with experience in certain fields please contact our management staff so we can hold guest lectures or events to help our new players learn and be ready for such things as PC.
It is sad that their are people out there who blindly hate an organization that is only focus is to help the game's community grow. Good people volunteer their time to help others and people in our community insult, smear and try to derail their efforts. Be it for personal interests or ambition, or just to troll for laughs. These people deserve much more credit then our community has given them recently.
Military Director, Dust University
"I am a product of my own perception, I only exist because I allow myself to."
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noob cavman
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
Renegade Alliance
175
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Posted - 2013.11.18 18:36:00 -
[58] - Quote
Can prob get some nut jobs to help |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University
Ivy League
680
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Posted - 2013.11.18 19:13:00 -
[59] - Quote
As has already been stated, about 2 weeks ago I brought up the issue that I believed it was time to pull from PC.
With the upcoming changes to FW and the possible increase in squad size to 16 that may be coming, I consider FW to be a more efficient use of our time. We could very quickly get a full squad of 16 together have a brief tactical rundown and an AAR after the battle, with none of it being time restricted to just one battle every 24 hours. We can organise this no matter the time zone.
With lectures and the semi regular Q&A's I do in Lecture.D-UNI (thank you to CCP FoxFour for joining us last night by the way) we can serve our stated mission to help and be an interactive version of the tutorial.
PC was a fun adventure and we made back our investment plus a bit more but in its current iteration it's a ball breaker to arrange matches and the time spent in negotiation by our staff can be better spent elsewhere.
I'm not ruling out a return to PC at some point in the future but until we know the mechanics of PC 2.0 and we've also left Molden Heath I don't see us going back to it anytime soon.
Mercenary Clone of Dennie Fleetfoot
CEO of DUST University
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DaNizzle4shizle
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
59
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Posted - 2013.11.18 19:21:00 -
[60] - Quote
dust uni deserves to loes all districts. they are accepting noob apps. these nobs are siting on isk that could go to the rest of us. i beleve that we deserve those planets that they own... like if you agree
2nd Commander......
help me with likes. like everything i post and i will like yours.
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Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1317
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Posted - 2013.11.18 20:27:00 -
[61] - Quote
What is all this talk, they already lost their planet...they didn't come here and cry about it so enough already...
I'm everyone's type
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Naedeus
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
267
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Posted - 2013.11.18 20:28:00 -
[62] - Quote
DaNizzle4shizle wrote:dust uni deserves to loes all districts. they are accepting noob apps. these nobs are siting on isk that could go to the rest of us. i beleve that we deserve those planets that they own... like if you agree
Get informed, or stfu.
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
312
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Posted - 2013.11.18 20:47:00 -
[63] - Quote
SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Naedeus wrote:Did Seymor really just make Sota Pop apologize?
Whoa... OSG had a squad in FW 2 days ago that carried a bunch of AV nades. I haven't been stomped on that hard in a while. My poor car - <\3
They put a call out for an assist and I pulled in a squad to give them an hand...pretty much a steam roll from your boys but not unexpected. We've helped them out by running some practice PC matches against them at Meta Lvl 2 and the result is the same but you guys just ate the clone-sicles faster.
We like working with D-Uni and view them as an asset to the community writ large...essentially the tutorial mode that the game doesn't have. Anecdotally, players that get some help early on tend to stick around the game longer so I think they are doing a good thing.
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
314
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Posted - 2013.11.18 20:58:00 -
[64] - Quote
DaNizzle4shizle wrote:dust uni deserves to loes all districts. they are accepting noob apps. these nobs are siting on isk that could go to the rest of us. i beleve that we deserve those planets that they own... like if you agree
Seriously? (facepalm) |
noob cavman
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
Renegade Alliance
176
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Posted - 2013.11.18 21:01:00 -
[65] - Quote
DaNizzle4shizle wrote:dust uni deserves to loes all districts. they are accepting noob apps. these nobs are siting on isk that could go to the rest of us. i beleve that we deserve those planets that they own... like if you agree
How about no |
DaNizzle4shizle
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
60
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Posted - 2013.11.18 21:28:00 -
[66] - Quote
im sorry if i did not care for dust uni enough to realize they lost all their districts. like really. give a guy a break
2nd Commander......
help me with likes. like everything i post and i will like yours.
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1239
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Posted - 2013.11.18 21:51:00 -
[67] - Quote
DaNizzle4shizle wrote:im sorry if i did not care for dust uni enough to realize they lost all their districts. like really. give a guy a break
lol all you had to do was read the thread you posted in
it's ok I'll give you a break.
after all if it wasn't for people like you, who would take my order at burger king
insert witty or profound statement here _______.
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TrueXer0z
DUST University
Ivy League
243
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Posted - 2013.11.18 22:20:00 -
[68] - Quote
Seymor Krelborn wrote:DaNizzle4shizle wrote:im sorry if i did not care for dust uni enough to realize they lost all their districts. like really. give a guy a break lol all you had to do was read the thread you posted in it's ok I'll give you a break. after all if it wasn't for people like you, who would take my order at burger king
Ok, funny as it may have been. Lets keep it civil D-Uni. We have said our peace. We thank those of you who help us participate in PC up to this point. We look forward to new opportunities to help build the new player experience in the future. Good luck to everyone in PC.
Military Director, Dust University
"I am a product of my own perception, I only exist because I allow myself to."
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1692
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Posted - 2013.11.18 22:23:00 -
[69] - Quote
Seymor Krelborn wrote:DaNizzle4shizle wrote:im sorry if i did not care for dust uni enough to realize they lost all their districts. like really. give a guy a break lol all you had to do was read the thread you posted in it's ok I'll give you a break. after all if it wasn't for people like you, who would take my order at burger king
O snap, danizzle has done it now.
Rule #1: don't pi$$ off Seymour
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
I'll take your Iskies
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COHLE
DUST University
Ivy League
5
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Posted - 2013.11.18 22:45:00 -
[70] - Quote
DaNizzle4shizle wrote:dust uni deserves to loes all districts. they are accepting noob apps. these nobs are siting on isk that could go to the rest of us. i beleve that we deserve those planets that they own... like if you agree
No just no, no. I don't even 
D-Uni Dropship Instructor
POWER ABSOLUTE
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Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1317
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Posted - 2013.11.18 23:28:00 -
[71] - Quote
TrueXer0z wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:DaNizzle4shizle wrote:im sorry if i did not care for dust uni enough to realize they lost all their districts. like really. give a guy a break lol all you had to do was read the thread you posted in it's ok I'll give you a break. after all if it wasn't for people like you, who would take my order at burger king Ok, funny as it may have been. Lets keep it civil D-Uni. We have said our peace. We thank those of you who help us participate in PC up to this point. We look forward to new opportunities to help build the new player experience in the future. Good luck to everyone in PC.
Attack us any time you want we will keep it friendly and there will be no hard feelings, well if you guys ever want to
Plan on taking the rest the planet ;) minus AE district
I'm everyone's type
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Arirana
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
264
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:00:00 -
[72] - Quote
TrueXer0z wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:DaNizzle4shizle wrote:im sorry if i did not care for dust uni enough to realize they lost all their districts. like really. give a guy a break lol all you had to do was read the thread you posted in it's ok I'll give you a break. after all if it wasn't for people like you, who would take my order at burger king Ok, funny as it may have been. Lets keep it civil D-Uni. We have said our peace. We thank those of you who help us participate in PC up to this point. We look forward to new opportunities to help build the new player experience in the future. Good luck to everyone in PC.
Meh trying to be pacifists in a game of war is just contradicting the whole point of being here. Seymor has the right idea, break out the guns when someone else does. Being extreme goody 2 shoes just makes you guys look like pushovers.
AAAATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATA~
WOOOAAATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATA
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Dachande Anasazi
8thDivision
91
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Posted - 2013.11.19 03:25:00 -
[73] - Quote
SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:
Don't misunderstand me - what you're doing is great. You're just not special. If you had any competent teams then maybe you could get somewhere 'training' others. But the only thing you're really doing is what anyone else could do - and does. Just because top corps don't go out of there way to do it like you guys doesn't prove or mean anything.
And nothing I said implies you guys should stop trying or die off. Corps wanting to help others are great - but do you really need PC districts to do so?
They don't train they ROLEPLAY training
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Dachande Anasazi
8thDivision
91
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Posted - 2013.11.19 03:28:00 -
[74] - Quote
SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Sorry Seymor - I didn't read everything through and jumped down you with bad conclusions.
I really, really am sorry for my poor conduct.
If you ever need help Dust Uni can always hit me up. I'd be glad to just squad up with your guys and just run around exchanging advice. Even noobs sometimes find gems we vets miss that helps us.
SoTa when you squad with some of these idiots you'll see how disrespectful they are to some noobs. There is one thing calling a n00b a n00b or tellling them to step up. A whole diff thing when you're just a disrespectful human being. EVEN in pub play.
I was squaded with them in D-Uni for a pub. One of the guys (who shall remained unnamed) takes the game waaayyyy to seriously.
And don;t let me get started on "POLICY" bullshit. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1701
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Posted - 2013.11.19 03:32:00 -
[75] - Quote
Dachande Anasazi wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Sorry Seymor - I didn't read everything through and jumped down you with bad conclusions.
I really, really am sorry for my poor conduct.
If you ever need help Dust Uni can always hit me up. I'd be glad to just squad up with your guys and just run around exchanging advice. Even noobs sometimes find gems we vets miss that helps us. SoTa when you squad with some of these idiots you'll see how disrespectful they are to some noobs. There is one thing calling a n00b a n00b or tellling them to step up. A whole diff thing when you're just a disrespectful human being. EVEN in pub play. I was squaded with them in D-Uni for a pub. One of the guys (who shall remained unnamed) takes the game waaayyyy to seriously. And don;t let me get started on "POLICY" bullshit.
Mail me this players name.....I will talk to them.....the actions of one do not represent the whole of D-Uni
EDIT: if you do mail me the players name, you shall remain unnamed, and if you don't mind, could you also say what they did etc.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
I'll take your Iskies
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Dachande Anasazi
8thDivision
93
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Posted - 2013.11.19 03:32:00 -
[76] - Quote
Fire of Prometheus wrote:We decided to opt out of PC due to some political bull$#!+ from another corp.
As many of you are aware, we do meta 2 PC matches and "all out" PC matches wich have a no limits rule.
As many of you also know, we are a training corp, not many people other than our fine staff have the ability to field proto gear/modules and weapons etc. this results in the no limits matches being mostly a proto stomp by the other team (unless it was decided otherwise that adv & below was the thresh-hold).
We informed our "students"/members that we are abandoning PC for the time being. Many of our members were outraged at this and as a result, we had a frenzy of people join in our last match.......wich I got dced from (stupid internet). We still hold training events and Q-syncs so our members aren't completely in the dark. As far as I'm concerned FW is a suitable replacement for PC.
We will not stop training with other corps and as such if you wish to set up a training match on your corps own turf (not to mention the fact we don't have any turf anymore) simply mail one of our directors.
But that's just my side of the story.
Smart for doing PC on other corp's planets..But remember when Eve-Uni was started. In the beginnign they did not have high teir stuff.
As far as unlimited training. Honestly it isn't so much you guys lack gear. Many people do have proto. It is just that you all run the same thing. We had an entire squad of dedicated logis...
And the fact that the only person allowed to use a mass driver goes 2/17 |
Dachande Anasazi
8thDivision
93
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Posted - 2013.11.19 03:33:00 -
[77] - Quote
Fire of Prometheus wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Sorry Seymor - I didn't read everything through and jumped down you with bad conclusions.
I really, really am sorry for my poor conduct.
If you ever need help Dust Uni can always hit me up. I'd be glad to just squad up with your guys and just run around exchanging advice. Even noobs sometimes find gems we vets miss that helps us. SoTa when you squad with some of these idiots you'll see how disrespectful they are to some noobs. There is one thing calling a n00b a n00b or tellling them to step up. A whole diff thing when you're just a disrespectful human being. EVEN in pub play. I was squaded with them in D-Uni for a pub. One of the guys (who shall remained unnamed) takes the game waaayyyy to seriously. And don;t let me get started on "POLICY" bullshit. Mail me this players name.....I will take care of them.....the actions of one do not represent the whole of D-Uni
NP dude..Btw man U was always cool. And if you ever want to leave training and fight for real. Please keep 8thdivision in mind |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1701
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Posted - 2013.11.19 03:34:00 -
[78] - Quote
Dachande Anasazi wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Sorry Seymor - I didn't read everything through and jumped down you with bad conclusions.
I really, really am sorry for my poor conduct.
If you ever need help Dust Uni can always hit me up. I'd be glad to just squad up with your guys and just run around exchanging advice. Even noobs sometimes find gems we vets miss that helps us. SoTa when you squad with some of these idiots you'll see how disrespectful they are to some noobs. There is one thing calling a n00b a n00b or tellling them to step up. A whole diff thing when you're just a disrespectful human being. EVEN in pub play. I was squaded with them in D-Uni for a pub. One of the guys (who shall remained unnamed) takes the game waaayyyy to seriously. And don;t let me get started on "POLICY" bullshit. Mail me this players name.....I will take care of them.....the actions of one do not represent the whole of D-Uni NP dude..Btw man U was always cool. And if you ever want to leave training and fight for real. Please keep 8thdivision in mind
Will do :)
I'd rather have fun playing the game than not have fun and kick butt :p
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
I'll take your Iskies
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1701
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Posted - 2013.11.19 03:37:00 -
[79] - Quote
Dachande Anasazi wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:We decided to opt out of PC due to some political bull$#!+ from another corp.
As many of you are aware, we do meta 2 PC matches and "all out" PC matches wich have a no limits rule.
As many of you also know, we are a training corp, not many people other than our fine staff have the ability to field proto gear/modules and weapons etc. this results in the no limits matches being mostly a proto stomp by the other team (unless it was decided otherwise that adv & below was the thresh-hold).
We informed our "students"/members that we are abandoning PC for the time being. Many of our members were outraged at this and as a result, we had a frenzy of people join in our last match.......wich I got dced from (stupid internet). We still hold training events and Q-syncs so our members aren't completely in the dark. As far as I'm concerned FW is a suitable replacement for PC.
We will not stop training with other corps and as such if you wish to set up a training match on your corps own turf (not to mention the fact we don't have any turf anymore) simply mail one of our directors.
But that's just my side of the story. Smart for doing PC on other corp's planets..But remember when Eve-Uni was started. In the beginnign they did not have high teir stuff. As far as unlimited training. Honestly it isn't so much you guys lack gear. Many people do have proto. It is just that you all run the same thing. We had an entire squad of dedicated logis... And the fact that the only person allowed to use a mass driver goes 2/17
I don't recall "weapon restrictions" being a part of D-Uni but if you're in a squad and they start saying stuff like that, then just leave the squad, I know a few people who would probably do something like that.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
I'll take your Iskies
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Naedeus
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
273
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Posted - 2013.11.19 03:52:00 -
[80] - Quote
Dachande Anasazi wrote:-snip-
Fire of Prometheus - Anything this guy says is pretty much null and void. He's the one who came into Dust University for a "peer review" and wrote some pretty nasty stuff about a couple of current members and former members (myself included.)
EDIT:
In fact, it was me who kicked him, and his alts out of Dust University immediately after seeing his review. |
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1703
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Posted - 2013.11.19 03:56:00 -
[81] - Quote
Naedeus wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:-snip- Fire of Prometheus - Anything this guy says is pretty much null and void. He's the one who came into Dust University for a "peer review" and wrote some pretty nasty stuff about a couple of current members and former members (myself included.)
Hmmm, well perhaps he heard only part of the conversation, and like I said, the actions of one (or few) do not represent the entire Uni.
Naedeus is a good person and was always kind to me :) if Naedeus was angry or said something, there has to be a good reason to do so :)
o7 Naedeus
EDIT: can someone give me a link to the review....I would like to read it :)
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
I'll take your Iskies
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Naedeus
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
273
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Posted - 2013.11.19 04:02:00 -
[82] - Quote
Fire of Prometheus wrote:Naedeus wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:-snip- Fire of Prometheus - Anything this guy says is pretty much null and void. He's the one who came into Dust University for a "peer review" and wrote some pretty nasty stuff about a couple of current members and former members (myself included.) Hmmm, well perhaps he heard only part of the conversation, and like I said, the actions of one (or few) do not represent the entire Uni. Naedeus is a good person and was always kind to me :) if Naedeus was angry or said something, there has to be a good reason to do so :) o7 Naedeus EDIT: can someone give me a link to the review....I would like to read it :)
The thread was removed, Prometheus. The content he wrote about certain members violated forum rules and were considered personal attacks.
EDIT:
Trust me, this guy has nothing to contribute to any conversation and doesn't even deserve to be spoken to. He's the lowest form of troll. I've got more respect for SoTa PoP's trolling than I do with this guy. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1249
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Posted - 2013.11.19 04:18:00 -
[83] - Quote
Dachande Anasazi wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Sorry Seymor - I didn't read everything through and jumped down you with bad conclusions.
I really, really am sorry for my poor conduct.
If you ever need help Dust Uni can always hit me up. I'd be glad to just squad up with your guys and just run around exchanging advice. Even noobs sometimes find gems we vets miss that helps us. SoTa when you squad with some of these idiots you'll see how disrespectful they are to some noobs. There is one thing calling a n00b a n00b or tellling them to step up. A whole diff thing when you're just a disrespectful human being. EVEN in pub play. I was squaded with them in D-Uni for a pub. One of the guys (who shall remained unnamed) takes the game waaayyyy to seriously. And don;t let me get started on "POLICY" bullshit.
it's no wonder you would hate us so, we removed you after all...
but I'm not going to get in a pissing contest with you... I think your little tirade of defamation speaks volumes above any tid bit I could add regarding your personal character.
I will however refute your testimony and denounce the very thought of our staff conducting themselves in this manner.
the only time anything ever got heated was in PC but that was for training purposes. to give our students the understanding that this is serious business and not following orders will not be tolerated and called out....
but the idea we would be this way in a pub is horse crap to be blunt.
anyway... as I stated previously I don't expect someone who was removed ( for reasons I wont broadcast to the public) to speak kindly of us.
insert witty or profound statement here _______.
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Dachande Anasazi
8thDivision
93
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Posted - 2013.11.19 04:23:00 -
[84] - Quote
Naedeus wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:-snip- Fire of Prometheus - Anything this guy says is pretty much null and void. He's the one who came into Dust University for a "peer review" and wrote some pretty nasty stuff about a couple of current members and former members (myself included.) EDIT: In fact, it was me who kicked him, and his alts out of Dust University immediately after seeing his review.
The Uni overall is/was (based on current times) a great place to get your feet wet in PC.
The only person who I talked negatively about was you. Honestly, don't talk to people in your squad like you're something big because you have a position in a fake game university.
You're like Aldan MINUS the skills.
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Dachande Anasazi
8thDivision
93
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Posted - 2013.11.19 04:25:00 -
[85] - Quote
Naedeus wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:-snip- Fire of Prometheus - Anything this guy says is pretty much null and void. He's the one who came into Dust University for a "peer review" and wrote some pretty nasty stuff about a couple of current members and former members (myself included.) EDIT: In fact, it was me who kicked him, and his alts out of Dust University immediately after seeing his review.
And I gave D-Uni an A-
so yea dude...I think you just can't handle criticism.
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CharCharOdell
1561
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Posted - 2013.11.19 04:28:00 -
[86] - Quote
Seymor Krelborn wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Sorry Seymor - I didn't read everything through and jumped down you with bad conclusions.
I really, really am sorry for my poor conduct.
If you ever need help Dust Uni can always hit me up. I'd be glad to just squad up with your guys and just run around exchanging advice. Even noobs sometimes find gems we vets miss that helps us. SoTa when you squad with some of these idiots you'll see how disrespectful they are to some noobs. There is one thing calling a n00b a n00b or tellling them to step up. A whole diff thing when you're just a disrespectful human being. EVEN in pub play. I was squaded with them in D-Uni for a pub. One of the guys (who shall remained unnamed) takes the game waaayyyy to seriously. And don;t let me get started on "POLICY" bullshit. it's no wonder you would hate us so, we removed you after all... but I'm not going to get in a pissing contest with you... I think your little tirade of defamation speaks volumes above any tid bit I could add regarding your personal character. I will however refute your testimony and denounce the very thought of our staff conducting themselves in this manner. the only time anything ever got heated was in PC but that was for training purposes. to give our students the understanding that this is serious business and not following orders will not be tolerated and called out.... but the idea we would be this way in a pub is horse crap to be blunt. anyway... as I stated previously I don't expect someone who was removed ( for reasons I wont broadcast to the public) to speak kindly of us.
I've put a secret alt or 2 into dust uni and they're still the same a55-holes they have been for quite some time. Act like a newberry and you're told that you're an idiot. There are no classes to speak of and the advice I did get was absolutely ********: "go minmitar assault they said. you'll speed tank they said." lol. just no.
Some of their leadership take this game and their positions way too seriously.
For those of you who want to see how a real training organization is run, check out Learning Coalition chat. It works because it is decentralized and many people from many corps congregate within it to help the newberries. Nobody is in charge and nobody is superior to anyone else when they have something to say.
Also, a lot of the people in our chat are PC vets who know what they're talking about. Realists; not lore-fanbois WHO THINK MN ASSAULT WITH KITKATS IS A GOOD IDEA because it works in eve.
Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ
Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó
Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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CharCharOdell
1561
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Posted - 2013.11.19 04:30:00 -
[87] - Quote
Dachande Anasazi wrote:Naedeus wrote:[quote=Dachande Anasazi]-snip- You're like Aldan MINUS the skills.
yup
Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ
Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó
Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1249
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Posted - 2013.11.19 04:35:00 -
[88] - Quote
Dachande Anasazi wrote:Naedeus wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:-snip- Fire of Prometheus - Anything this guy says is pretty much null and void. He's the one who came into Dust University for a "peer review" and wrote some pretty nasty stuff about a couple of current members and former members (myself included.) EDIT: In fact, it was me who kicked him, and his alts out of Dust University immediately after seeing his review. The Uni overall is/was (based on current times) a great place to get your feet wet in PC. The only person who I talked negatively about was you. Honestly, don't talk to people in your squad like you're something big because you have a position in a fake game university. You're like Aldan MINUS the skills.
and yet another personal attack.
its rather unfortunate you only know how to communicate with insults and fabrications.
sadly I did not read this article. I wish I had, for the laughs...
what I would probably find the funniest is how you must have described what a jerk I was in your squad, since I never squaded with you....
insert witty or profound statement here _______.
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Dachande Anasazi
8thDivision
94
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Posted - 2013.11.19 04:40:00 -
[89] - Quote
Seymor Krelborn wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:Naedeus wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:-snip- Fire of Prometheus - Anything this guy says is pretty much null and void. He's the one who came into Dust University for a "peer review" and wrote some pretty nasty stuff about a couple of current members and former members (myself included.) EDIT: In fact, it was me who kicked him, and his alts out of Dust University immediately after seeing his review. The Uni overall is/was (based on current times) a great place to get your feet wet in PC. The only person who I talked negatively about was you. Honestly, don't talk to people in your squad like you're something big because you have a position in a fake game university. You're like Aldan MINUS the skills. and yet another personal attack. its rather unfortunate you only know how to communicate with insults and fabrications. sadly I did not read this article. I wish I had, for the laughs... what I would probably find the funniest is how you must have described what a jerk I was in your squad, since I never squaded with you....
Yea you were also named. And I said you was cool.
The only negative things I said about anyone was Truexeroz and that was more for ***** and giggles. I said he needed to work on trash talking skills lol. And I suggested that Reevira not talk like a MOM.
The other was Nadeus... (And honestly he was talking to others like that. It was an observation).
As for you dude. I said Good stuff (yea I did squad with you and twice in training I believe)...soooooo...... yea. No need to attack me. And overall what I said about the UNI was GOOD.
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1249
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Posted - 2013.11.19 04:44:00 -
[90] - Quote
CharCharOdell wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Sorry Seymor - I didn't read everything through and jumped down you with bad conclusions.
I really, really am sorry for my poor conduct.
If you ever need help Dust Uni can always hit me up. I'd be glad to just squad up with your guys and just run around exchanging advice. Even noobs sometimes find gems we vets miss that helps us. SoTa when you squad with some of these idiots you'll see how disrespectful they are to some noobs. There is one thing calling a n00b a n00b or tellling them to step up. A whole diff thing when you're just a disrespectful human being. EVEN in pub play. I was squaded with them in D-Uni for a pub. One of the guys (who shall remained unnamed) takes the game waaayyyy to seriously. And don;t let me get started on "POLICY" bullshit. it's no wonder you would hate us so, we removed you after all... but I'm not going to get in a pissing contest with you... I think your little tirade of defamation speaks volumes above any tid bit I could add regarding your personal character. I will however refute your testimony and denounce the very thought of our staff conducting themselves in this manner. the only time anything ever got heated was in PC but that was for training purposes. to give our students the understanding that this is serious business and not following orders will not be tolerated and called out.... but the idea we would be this way in a pub is horse crap to be blunt. anyway... as I stated previously I don't expect someone who was removed ( for reasons I wont broadcast to the public) to speak kindly of us. I've put a secret alt or 2 into dust uni and they're still the same a55-holes they have been for quite some time. Act like a newberry and you're told that you're an idiot. There are no classes to speak of and the advice I did get was absolutely ********: "go minmitar assault they said. you'll speed tank they said." lol. just no. Some of their leadership take this game and their positions way too seriously. For those of you who want to see how a real training organization is run, check out Learning Coalition chat. It works because it is decentralized and many people from many corps congregate within it to help the newberries. Nobody is in charge and nobody is superior to anyone else when they have something to say. Also, a lot of the people in our chat are PC vets who know what they're talking about. Realists; not lore-fanbois WHO THINK MN ASSAULT WITH KITKATS IS A GOOD IDEA because it works in eve.
lol... so the spider finally comes out of his hole first of all congratulations for getting a spy in a corporation that accepts EVERYONE...
2nd record this as proof or its just baseless flaming...I challenge you to back your rumors up with proof or I proclaim they are the desperate rantings of a sad panda.
no staff member acts this way. those who have met our staffs uglier side did so by being disruptive. and when I say uglier side I mean getting warned for whatever inappropriate behaviour and then getting kicked when they did not heed the warning... what corp out there tolerates people being jerks? none...
insert witty or profound statement here _______.
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1249
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Posted - 2013.11.19 04:48:00 -
[91] - Quote
Dachande Anasazi wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:Naedeus wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:-snip- Fire of Prometheus - Anything this guy says is pretty much null and void. He's the one who came into Dust University for a "peer review" and wrote some pretty nasty stuff about a couple of current members and former members (myself included.) EDIT: In fact, it was me who kicked him, and his alts out of Dust University immediately after seeing his review. The Uni overall is/was (based on current times) a great place to get your feet wet in PC. The only person who I talked negatively about was you. Honestly, don't talk to people in your squad like you're something big because you have a position in a fake game university. You're like Aldan MINUS the skills. and yet another personal attack. its rather unfortunate you only know how to communicate with insults and fabrications. sadly I did not read this article. I wish I had, for the laughs... what I would probably find the funniest is how you must have described what a jerk I was in your squad, since I never squaded with you.... Yea you were also named. And I said you was cool. The only negative things I said about anyone was Truexeroz and that was more for ***** and giggles. I said he needed to work on trash talking skills lol. And I suggested that Reevira not talk like a MOM. The other was Nadeus... (And honestly he was talking to others like that. It was an observation). As for you dude. I said Good stuff (yea I did squad with you and twice in training I believe)...soooooo...... yea. No need to attack me. And overall what I said about the UNI was GOOD.
lol now im just confused....
insert witty or profound statement here _______.
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Dachande Anasazi
8thDivision
94
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Posted - 2013.11.19 04:53:00 -
[92] - Quote
Seymor Krelborn wrote:
lol now im just confused....
THe review I wrote said D-Uni was a cool place to be.
I did write negatively on CERTAIN people. You were NOT one of them. OVERALL most the people were COOL including you, prometheus, thaiceman etc.
However SOME individuals, really take the whole "university" thing to their head and kinda ruin the experience for new comers. And one I extensively wrote about was Nadeus.
Clear now?
EDIT: Yea I don't remember if I mentioned you but I know who I wrote negatively about. And one (Truexeroz) wasn't even real negative point it was just a joke. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1249
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Posted - 2013.11.19 05:05:00 -
[93] - Quote
Dachande Anasazi wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:
lol now im just confused....
THe review I wrote said D-Uni was a cool place to be. I did write negatively on CERTAIN people. You were NOT one of them. OVERALL most the people were COOL including you, prometheus, thaiceman etc. However SOME individuals, really take the whole "university" thing to their head and kinda ruin the experience for new comers. And one I extensively wrote about was Nadeus. Clear now?
yes clear....
what isn't clear is your previous post saying I was an @$$...
try to understand that the few senior staff we have do put a lot of work into this corp plus juggle real lives and they do take it seriously but not to the point of forgetting its a game.
they spend hours putting things together for almost complete strangers in an effort to make their game more enjoyable.
they do this voluntarily, and more than most of the time without acknowledgement.
I define this as passion and I have great respect for them.
you know this whole training corp thing is something we create out of thin air.
theres no game mechanics that support what we do.
it exists only because the people behind the uni made it exsist.
we have a long way to go and much to learn and we struggle through this endeavor in a game that has not yet itself found its footing.
we ask nothing of any player except not to waste our time or bring conflict to our corp.
its very easy to judge other people from the sidelines...
insert witty or profound statement here _______.
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TrueXer0z
DUST University
Ivy League
245
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Posted - 2013.11.19 05:10:00 -
[94] - Quote
Trust me..I am far from a pacifist. I just don't feed troll posts by trolls, but I will just once here.
Most of the people spewing hate are a joke to everyone but themselves. Char trying to self promote an organization run by a former D-Uni director that had a mental break down before he left. Promising to say the least. Talking about how he couldn't sleep at night because he was afraid I was out to get him and I was making him physically ill. What a joke. I barely even talked to the guy. Don't believe it? I have the e-mails he sent just before he rage quit and started his little vendetta learning coalition. Just another disgruntled ex member trying to ride the coat tails of an organization he wishes he never left.
For the rest of the people out there that may have had a bad experience is because you didn't take the time to ever see what was really there to offer. Or, you didn't take the time to actually talk with people to know what's up. But, I could honestly care less what anyone thinks about the organization I am a part of. Just a drama filled joke with you trolls written all over it.
Most of you who came in the uni and left in a negative state was because you were too lazy to find the opportunities we offer for yourselves. You want people to hold you hand then you came to the wrong place. We are here to help people not baby them. Read the welcome mail, use our forums, contact the people that are here to help. We have Lectures at least 2-3 times a week. Events happen everyday.
Aww you got upset when I yelled at you when you utterly failed in PC match and didn't do what you were supposed to or followed the orders of your squad leaders? Oh, or did I curse too much and it burned your virgin ears? ****ing crybabies. I take this game too seriously? Or is it I am so dumbfounded that some people (Not all) are so brain dead that they can't follow simple instructions or abide by the rules of a specific organization. And you want to join a competitive corp that is focused on team play and following the commands of your squad and team leaders. HAHA.
But it is ok, sit here on your forums and spit your sewage to our community so that any new member who has a brain logs in and see your ignorance and immediately find something else. Self defecating bunch of jerks. You run people off and try to mess with establishments that are in the business of helping the community, then have the gull to complain and say this game is dying. lol.
I could go on and on, but I doubt most of you read this far without responding with some not really that funny, but will be blown up to be troll post.
"You mad bro?" Maybe a little. But, no one cares. So I will go back to my corner of Dust 514 and try my best to help this game grow. With our without the communities' support.
Oh and PS: We didn't fight for those districts. We no showed because we couldn't care less.
PPS: Char, been in IG for a while now, nothing goes on..no activity, no forum activity, Anything of note is a bunch of guides written by one guy who maybe plays 1 or 2 hours a week. And, isn't very good.
Military Director, Dust University
"I am a product of my own perception, I only exist because I allow myself to."
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1249
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Posted - 2013.11.19 05:19:00 -
[95] - Quote
TrueXer0z wrote:Trust me..I am far from a pacifist. I just don't feed troll posts by trolls, but I will just once here.
Most of the people spewing hate are a joke to everyone but themselves. Char trying to self promote an organization run by a former D-Uni director that had a mental break down before he left. Promising to say the least. Talking about how he couldn't sleep at night because he was afraid I was out to get him and I was making him physically ill. What a joke. I barely even talked to the guy. Don't believe it? I have the e-mails he sent just before he rage quit and started his little vendetta learning coalition. Just another disgruntled ex member trying to ride the coat tails of an organization he wishes he never left.
For the rest of the people out there that may have had a bad experience is because you didn't take the time to ever see what was really there to offer. Or, you didn't take the time to actually talk with people to know what's up. But, I could honestly care less what anyone thinks about the organization I am a part of. Just a drama filled joke with you trolls written all over it.
Most of you who came in the uni and left in a negative state was because you were too lazy to find the opportunities we offer for yourselves. You want people to hold you hand then you came to the wrong place. We are here to help people not baby them. Read the welcome mail, use our forums, contact the people that are here to help. We have Lectures at least 2-3 times a week. Events happen everyday.
Aww you got upset when I yelled at you when you utterly failed in PC match and didn't do what you were supposed to or followed the orders of your squad leaders? Oh, or did I curse too much and it burned your virgin ears? ****ing crybabies. I take this game too seriously? Or is it I am so dumbfounded that some people (Not all) are so brain dead that they can't follow simple instructions or abide by the rules of a specific organization. And you want to join a competitive corp that is focused on team play and following the commands of your squad and team leaders. HAHA.
But it is ok, sit here on your forums and spit your sewage to our community so that any new member who has a brain logs in and see your ignorance and immediately find something else. Self defecating bunch of jerks. You run people off and try to mess with establishments that are in the business of helping the community, then have the gull to complain and say this game is dying. lol.
I could go on and on, but I doubt most of you read this far without responding with some not really that funny, but will be blown up to be troll post.
"You mad bro?" Maybe a little. But, no one cares. So I will go back to my corner of Dust 514 and try my best to help this game grow. With our without the communities' support.
Oh and PS: We didn't fight for those districts. We no showed because we couldn't care less.
PPS: Char, been in IG for a while now, nothing goes on..no activity, no forum activity, Anything of note is a bunch of guides written by one guy who maybe plays 1 or 2 hours a week. And, isn't very good.
insert witty or profound statement here _______.
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Dachande Anasazi
8thDivision
94
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Posted - 2013.11.19 05:23:00 -
[96] - Quote
Seymor Krelborn wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:
lol now im just confused....
THe review I wrote said D-Uni was a cool place to be. I did write negatively on CERTAIN people. You were NOT one of them. OVERALL most the people were COOL including you, prometheus, thaiceman etc. However SOME individuals, really take the whole "university" thing to their head and kinda ruin the experience for new comers. And one I extensively wrote about was Nadeus. Clear now? yes clear.... what isn't clear is your previous post saying I was an @$$... try to understand that the few senior staff we have do put a lot of work into this corp plus juggle real lives and they do take it seriously but not to the point of forgetting its a game. they spend hours putting things together for almost complete strangers in an effort to make their game more enjoyable. they do this voluntarily, and more than most of the time without acknowledgement. I define this as passion and I have great respect for them. you know this whole training corp thing is something we create out of thin air. theres no game mechanics that support what we do. it exists only because the people behind the uni made it exsist. we have a long way to go and much to learn and we struggle through this endeavor in a game that has not yet itself found its footing. we ask nothing of any player except not to waste our time or bring conflict to our corp. its very easy to judge other people from the sidelines...
I don't I ever called you as @s$....sorry if I did, these forums can get confusing.
As for staff, like I said most the staff was cool dude.
One example I was talking about: I ask to go into ONE game of ambush. Got no reply, I shrugged it off (I really didn't care). Another person in squad said, "Hey some guy (meaning me) just asked for an ambush" The squad leader who is also a staff member (and keep in mind this is a PUB so no need to flip) says, I HEARD IT THE FIRST TIME DUDE... (In a really b**** voice).
That is one example. Me, didn't care. The other guy was really put off but he kept quiet cuz he was new.
Also on another issue sometimes I was shut down with the threat that they were STAFF and I wasn't (even though I was invited to be part of the edu dept). This particular staff took being a staff member as if he was an ACTUALLY dean of a UNI and quoted "Policy". I was like w/e
FOR EXAMPLE
I asked if a PC was meta lvl 2 or an unlimited training. Because I did not want to do meta lvl 2 and if it was unlimited would change my schedule around to participate. I explained to him that I had real life things that I would compromise with before hand if it was an unlimited match. Staff quoted policy - that they cannot announce type of match until it is 1 hr b4 start. I asked if there was somewhere I can address this policy andto whom. I was told all these policies have been discussed.
Now I understand there is an obvious reason to have w/e policy. But I did not want to discuss it with him. I wished to discuss it with people who made such policies. And THEN if they chose to keep the same policy. THen power to them, they obviously know OTHER sides of the administrating business (which I don't). But I just wanted to bring it to their attention (just in case it wasn't). I did not want to ***** about the policy, because, and anyone whose held a job before knows this, administration takes many things into account.
But this dude just went on a power trip...sooo...yea...
I decided not to play that match anyways. And someone in SPEC OPS (battuff- cool guy) told me that it was meta lvl 2 privately. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1249
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Posted - 2013.11.19 05:28:00 -
[97] - Quote
Dachande Anasazi wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:
lol now im just confused....
THe review I wrote said D-Uni was a cool place to be. I did write negatively on CERTAIN people. You were NOT one of them. OVERALL most the people were COOL including you, prometheus, thaiceman etc. However SOME individuals, really take the whole "university" thing to their head and kinda ruin the experience for new comers. And one I extensively wrote about was Nadeus. Clear now? yes clear.... what isn't clear is your previous post saying I was an @$$... try to understand that the few senior staff we have do put a lot of work into this corp plus juggle real lives and they do take it seriously but not to the point of forgetting its a game. they spend hours putting things together for almost complete strangers in an effort to make their game more enjoyable. they do this voluntarily, and more than most of the time without acknowledgement. I define this as passion and I have great respect for them. you know this whole training corp thing is something we create out of thin air. theres no game mechanics that support what we do. it exists only because the people behind the uni made it exsist. we have a long way to go and much to learn and we struggle through this endeavor in a game that has not yet itself found its footing. we ask nothing of any player except not to waste our time or bring conflict to our corp. its very easy to judge other people from the sidelines... I don't I ever called you as @s$....sorry if I did, these forums can get confusing. As for staff, like I said most the staff was cool dude. One example I was talking about: I ask to go into ONE game of ambush. Got no reply, I shrugged it off (I really didn't care). Another person in squad said, "Hey some guy (meaning me) just asked for an ambush" The squad leader who is also a staff member (and keep in mind this is a PUB so no need to flip) says, I HEARD IT THE FIRST TIME DUDE... (In a really b**** voice). That is one example. Me, didn't care. The other guy was really put off but he kept quiet cuz he was new. Also on another issue sometimes I was shut down with the threat that they were STAFF and I wasn't (even though I was invited to be part of the edu dept). This particular staff took being a staff member as if he was an ACTUALLY dean of a UNI and quoted "Policy". I was like w/e FOR EXAMPLE I asked if a PC was meta lvl 2 or an unlimited training. Because I did not want to do meta lvl 2 and if it was unlimited would change my schedule around to participate. I explained to him that I had real life things that I would compromise with before hand if it was an unlimited match. Staff quoted policy - that they cannot announce type of match until it is 1 hr b4 start. I asked if there was somewhere I can address this policy andto whom. I was told all these policies have been discussed. Now I understand there is an obvious reason to have w/e policy. But I did not want to discuss it with him. I wished to discuss it with people who made such policies. And THEN if they chose to keep the same policy. THen power to them, they obviously know OTHER sides of the administrating business (which I don't). But I just wanted to bring it to their attention (just in case it wasn't). I did not want to ***** about the policy, because, and anyone whose held a job before knows this, administration takes many things into account. But this dude just went on a power trip...sooo...yea... I decided not to play that match anyways. And someone in SPEC OPS (battuff- cool guy) told me that it was meta lvl 2 privately.
lol im sorry but this is some highschool drama BS... seriously???
people from all over the world are in our corp and we are not like the iluminati or anything... ANYONE GETS IN!
when they prove themselves to be a jerk they get gone....
this is some really petty stuff that no corp of 900 + sometimes close to 2000 members corp can avoid....
I almost never say this, and certainly not seriously... but seriously... HTFU....
insert witty or profound statement here _______.
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Dachande Anasazi
8thDivision
94
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Posted - 2013.11.19 05:46:00 -
[98] - Quote
Seymor Krelborn wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:
lol now im just confused....
THe review I wrote said D-Uni was a cool place to be. I did write negatively on CERTAIN people. You were NOT one of them. OVERALL most the people were COOL including you, prometheus, thaiceman etc. However SOME individuals, really take the whole "university" thing to their head and kinda ruin the experience for new comers. And one I extensively wrote about was Nadeus. Clear now? yes clear.... what isn't clear is your previous post saying I was an @$$... try to understand that the few senior staff we have do put a lot of work into this corp plus juggle real lives and they do take it seriously but not to the point of forgetting its a game. they spend hours putting things together for almost complete strangers in an effort to make their game more enjoyable. they do this voluntarily, and more than most of the time without acknowledgement. I define this as passion and I have great respect for them. you know this whole training corp thing is something we create out of thin air. theres no game mechanics that support what we do. it exists only because the people behind the uni made it exsist. we have a long way to go and much to learn and we struggle through this endeavor in a game that has not yet itself found its footing. we ask nothing of any player except not to waste our time or bring conflict to our corp. its very easy to judge other people from the sidelines... I don't I ever called you as @s$....sorry if I did, these forums can get confusing. As for staff, like I said most the staff was cool dude. One example I was talking about: I ask to go into ONE game of ambush. Got no reply, I shrugged it off (I really didn't care). Another person in squad said, "Hey some guy (meaning me) just asked for an ambush" The squad leader who is also a staff member (and keep in mind this is a PUB so no need to flip) says, I HEARD IT THE FIRST TIME DUDE... (In a really b**** voice). That is one example. Me, didn't care. The other guy was really put off but he kept quiet cuz he was new. Also on another issue sometimes I was shut down with the threat that they were STAFF and I wasn't (even though I was invited to be part of the edu dept). This particular staff took being a staff member as if he was an ACTUALLY dean of a UNI and quoted "Policy". I was like w/e FOR EXAMPLE I asked if a PC was meta lvl 2 or an unlimited training. Because I did not want to do meta lvl 2 and if it was unlimited would change my schedule around to participate. I explained to him that I had real life things that I would compromise with before hand if it was an unlimited match. Staff quoted policy - that they cannot announce type of match until it is 1 hr b4 start. I asked if there was somewhere I can address this policy andto whom. I was told all these policies have been discussed. Now I understand there is an obvious reason to have w/e policy. But I did not want to discuss it with him. I wished to discuss it with people who made such policies. And THEN if they chose to keep the same policy. THen power to them, they obviously know OTHER sides of the administrating business (which I don't). But I just wanted to bring it to their attention (just in case it wasn't). I did not want to ***** about the policy, because, and anyone whose held a job before knows this, administration takes many things into account. But this dude just went on a power trip...sooo...yea... I decided not to play that match anyways. And someone in SPEC OPS (battuff- cool guy) told me that it was meta lvl 2 privately. lol im sorry but this is some highschool drama BS... seriously??? people from all over the world are in our corp and we are not like the iluminati or anything... ANYONE GETS IN! when they prove themselves to be a jerk they get gone.... this is some really petty stuff that no corp of 900 + sometimes close to 2000 members corp can avoid.... I almost never say this, and certainly not seriously... but seriously... HTFU....
Are you telling me to HTFU over criticism I've given towards, not you, but your corpsmate. And keep in mind it was criticism NOT a reason I left I left because I wanted to do other stuff.
Again OVERALL the D-uni is a great place and a good place to train. SOME staff let being a "staff" go to their head and I think that is in ALL corps of ALL games. They compensate for short comings in RL. And NO clan/corp/guild can control that in any game if they are really big (in ANY GAME).
Sooooo please chill out.
And my review said D-Uni was a GOOD place. The only thing/person that got negative things said about them was Nadeus. (I joked about truexeroz) and everyone else from thaiceman to people I cannot remember got good reviews.
so....yea dude... I think you're just projecting with the HTFU. But I'll let it go because this thread was made to troll you (by learning corp) and the way you're acting, you got trolled. So HTFU against trolls dude.
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1250
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Posted - 2013.11.19 05:52:00 -
[99] - Quote
Dachande Anasazi wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:
THe review I wrote said D-Uni was a cool place to be.
I did write negatively on CERTAIN people. You were NOT one of them. OVERALL most the people were COOL including you, prometheus, thaiceman etc.
However SOME individuals, really take the whole "university" thing to their head and kinda ruin the experience for new comers. And one I extensively wrote about was Nadeus.
Clear now?
yes clear.... what isn't clear is your previous post saying I was an @$$... try to understand that the few senior staff we have do put a lot of work into this corp plus juggle real lives and they do take it seriously but not to the point of forgetting its a game. they spend hours putting things together for almost complete strangers in an effort to make their game more enjoyable. they do this voluntarily, and more than most of the time without acknowledgement. I define this as passion and I have great respect for them. you know this whole training corp thing is something we create out of thin air. theres no game mechanics that support what we do. it exists only because the people behind the uni made it exsist. we have a long way to go and much to learn and we struggle through this endeavor in a game that has not yet itself found its footing. we ask nothing of any player except not to waste our time or bring conflict to our corp. its very easy to judge other people from the sidelines... I don't I ever called you as @s$....sorry if I did, these forums can get confusing. As for staff, like I said most the staff was cool dude. One example I was talking about: I ask to go into ONE game of ambush. Got no reply, I shrugged it off (I really didn't care). Another person in squad said, "Hey some guy (meaning me) just asked for an ambush" The squad leader who is also a staff member (and keep in mind this is a PUB so no need to flip) says, I HEARD IT THE FIRST TIME DUDE... (In a really b**** voice). That is one example. Me, didn't care. The other guy was really put off but he kept quiet cuz he was new. Also on another issue sometimes I was shut down with the threat that they were STAFF and I wasn't (even though I was invited to be part of the edu dept). This particular staff took being a staff member as if he was an ACTUALLY dean of a UNI and quoted "Policy". I was like w/e FOR EXAMPLE I asked if a PC was meta lvl 2 or an unlimited training. Because I did not want to do meta lvl 2 and if it was unlimited would change my schedule around to participate. I explained to him that I had real life things that I would compromise with before hand if it was an unlimited match. Staff quoted policy - that they cannot announce type of match until it is 1 hr b4 start. I asked if there was somewhere I can address this policy andto whom. I was told all these policies have been discussed. Now I understand there is an obvious reason to have w/e policy. But I did not want to discuss it with him. I wished to discuss it with people who made such policies. And THEN if they chose to keep the same policy. THen power to them, they obviously know OTHER sides of the administrating business (which I don't). But I just wanted to bring it to their attention (just in case it wasn't). I did not want to ***** about the policy, because, and anyone whose held a job before knows this, administration takes many things into account. But this dude just went on a power trip...sooo...yea... I decided not to play that match anyways. And someone in SPEC OPS (battuff- cool guy) told me that it was meta lvl 2 privately. lol im sorry but this is some highschool drama BS... seriously??? people from all over the world are in our corp and we are not like the iluminati or anything... ANYONE GETS IN! when they prove themselves to be a jerk they get gone.... this is some really petty stuff that no corp of 900 + sometimes close to 2000 members corp can avoid.... I almost never say this, and certainly not seriously... but seriously... HTFU.... Are you telling me to HTFU over criticism I've given towards, not you, but your corpsmate. And keep in mind it was criticism NOT a reason I left I left because I wanted to do other stuff. Again OVERALL the D-uni is a great place and a good place to train. SOME staff let being a "staff" go to their head and I think that is in ALL corps of ALL games. They compensate for short comings in RL. And NO clan/corp/guild can control that in any game if they are really big (in ANY GAME). Sooooo please chill out. And my review said D-Uni was a GOOD place. The only thing/person that got negative things said about them was Nadeus. (I joked about truexeroz) and everyone else from thaiceman to people I cannot remember got good reviews. so....yea dude... I think you're just projecting with the HTFU. But I'll let it go because this thread was made to troll you (by learning corp) and the way you're acting, you got trolled. So HTFU against trolls dude.
insert witty or profound statement here _______.
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Dachande Anasazi
8thDivision
95
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Posted - 2013.11.19 06:03:00 -
[100] - Quote
Seymor Krelborn
[:roll: wrote:
I smiled there... |
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Naedeus
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
273
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Posted - 2013.11.19 07:48:00 -
[101] - Quote
Dachande Anasazi wrote:
And my review said D-Uni was a GOOD place. The only thing/person that got negative things said about them was Nadeus. (I joked about truexeroz) and everyone else from thaiceman to people I cannot remember got good reviews.
You can't remember because you're trying to lie to save your own ass. I know all four people you've called out in your thread, myself being one. We're all grown ups here, and we can all deal with negativity. But what you said in your post about these four members was utterly wrong and pretty offensive. You know nothing about Dust University, you were only in the corporation for little under a week, and your review was nothing more than a half assed attempt at meta-gaming with the only goal to deface members of this community. For what reason? You, for one minute happened to have a bad interaction in a video game? Hilarious, absolutely hilarious.
If you can't handle someone coping an attitude with you - or others - because you or they couldn't follow simple directions in a highly competitive match. Do yourself a favor and stop playing the game, or grow up. Just because you saw a negative side of someone, doesn't instantly mean that they're always like that, nor is it grounds for thinking (and posting on a public forum) that they have a mental illness or are taking real life anger out on a video game.
Oh, and fun little fact, buddy. I deal with criticism on a daily basis, it's part of my hobby. Yours, however, is the type of criticism that's hilarious to read and means nothing because it lacks a constructive edge.
CharCharOdell wrote:
I've put a secret alt or 2 into dust uni and they're still the same a55-holes they have been for quite some time. Act like a newberry and you're told that you're an idiot. There are no classes to speak of and the advice I did get was absolutely ********: "go minmitar assault they said. you'll speed tank they said." lol. just no.
Some of their leadership take this game and their positions way too seriously.
For those of you who want to see how a real training organization is run, check out Learning Coalition chat. It works because it is decentralized and many people from many corps congregate within it to help the newberries. Nobody is in charge and nobody is superior to anyone else when they have something to say.
Also, a lot of the people in our chat are PC vets who know what they're talking about. Realists; not lore-fanbois WHO THINK MN ASSAULT WITH KITKATS IS A GOOD IDEA because it works in eve.
Boy, aren't you a big kid?
Let's spy on a corporation who has all of their information publicly available, who accepts everyone and anyone regardless of their previous affiliations, who gives out information to people willing to work with them for the betterment of the community. You think you're smart and a god at infiltration because you can successfully spy on Dust University. Half, if not all, of your ideas you come up with are simply stolen from D-UNI because you're unoriginal.
I can assure you that no one in Dust University was called an idiot because they acted like, or were actually a new player to the game. If someone was called an idiot, the people involved were more than likely members of D-UNI's Spec Ops program. I don't think I need to explain it to you because you have spies in the corporation.
Furthermore, a leadership that takes itself seriously and has a passion for helping retain players is a leadership that's a force to be reckoned with. These guys don't spend their time in these sections of the forums trolling people because they can. They don't spam pointless threads constantly to get the corporation known. People join D-UNI because they're told to go to the corporation, or they know about Eve University and know that the two corporations are within the same Alliance and focus on similar things between both games.
Of course... I wouldn't expect anything less from a wannabe forum troll who joined D-UNI for two days, claimed he wanted to be a teacher in the corporation, and then left when the Education Director wanted to go through with an interview.
Let's face it, O'Dell, if you really wanted to help the community, and you really cared for the new player experience like the leadership in Dust University does. You wouldn't be wasting your time on the forums trying to gain reputation and fame. Topics like these wouldn't exist from you. All this time and energy you have spent on disrupting Dust University's operations, or spent on trying to ruin it's reputation, is energy you could be spending on coming up with ways to help improve the new player experience, or ways spent communicating with D-UNI on improving the new player experience. 'Cause I can assure you, Brave Newbies and Eve University aren't constantly shooting each other or degrading each other on the forums, and I'm sure as hell both corporations share information between each other to help new players in Eve Online.
Wanna know why Dust University rarely addresses posts like these? It's a waste of time. Each minute spent writing a post to address an unimportant, useless topic, could have been spent writing up new ideas, lectures, and events.
You want nothing more than fame, and in the end, Dust University will live longer than you and your Learning Coalition. Especially if this is the sort of attitude you have towards helping new players. Oh, by the way, enjoy your time in Planetary Conquest while it lasts, 'cause when a new regime comes in, you'll see fire on your doorstep, and you won't be able to do anything about it.
TL;DR - Get bent, plox? |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University
Ivy League
680
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Posted - 2013.11.19 09:06:00 -
[102] - Quote
I'm not going to comment on this whole he said this/that/when Chinese whispers because I'm not not one to stifle personal expression (unless it gets hurtful or personal) and its impossible to police said expression in the semi anonimous worlds of the internet. Another reason is that I left school a quarter of a century ago...
Plus players tend to adopt a 'Forum Warrior' stance in these threads, that 99 times out of 100 is usually completely contrary to how they actually are when you speak to them over Comms..
As to the review that was posted and spoken of here, it was generally favourable to the UNI, that much is true, but there was reference to a member of D-UNI being referenced as to a female dog which I found rather distasteful so I reported the post. As anyone in D-UNI will testify, I have a zero tolerance attitude to harassment of female players in my corp and that extends to the forums as well. Call me old fashioned in that regard if you want but I'm not going to apologise for it.
But threads like this do make me smile if for one reason only. They demonstrate a level of passion for the game, a game that I might remind you, is generally considered as unfinished, lacking in significant features and on the wrong format (get it on PS4 ASAP CCP). It's a passion I share and one that allows me to talk for over an hour in Q&A's and podcasts, even when there's no new content.
It's part of the reason I want to stand for the CPM when the elections come and am prepared for my real name being out there as a result and not hide behind an avatar any more.
Mercenary Clone of Dennie Fleetfoot
CEO of DUST University
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Dachande Anasazi
8thDivision
97
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Posted - 2013.11.19 13:54:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:
As to the review that was posted and spoken of here, it was generally favourable to the UNI, that much is true, but there was reference to a member of D-UNI being referenced as to a female dog which I found rather distasteful so I reported the post. As anyone in D-UNI will testify, I have a zero tolerance attitude to harassment of female players in my corp and that extends to the forums as well. Call me old fashioned in that regard if you want but I'm not going to apologise for it.
Oh shoot that was my bad bro. Part of my everyday language. Apologies.
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Dachande Anasazi
8thDivision
97
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Posted - 2013.11.19 14:05:00 -
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Naedeus wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:
And my review said D-Uni was a GOOD place. The only thing/person that got negative things said about them was Nadeus. (I joked about truexeroz) and everyone else from thaiceman to people I cannot remember got good reviews.
You can't remember because you're trying to lie to save your own ass. I know all four people you've called out in your thread, myself being one. We're all grown ups here, and we can all deal with negativity. But what you said in your post about these four members was utterly wrong and pretty offensive. You know nothing about Dust University, you were only in the corporation for little under a week, and your review was nothing more than a half assed attempt at meta-gaming with the only goal to deface members of this community. For what reason? You, for one minute happened to have a bad interaction in a video game? Hilarious, absolutely hilarious. If you can't handle someone coping an attitude with you - or others - because you or they couldn't follow simple directions in a highly competitive match. Do yourself a favor and stop playing the game, or grow up. Just because you saw a negative side of someone, doesn't instantly mean that they're always like that, nor is it grounds for thinking (and posting on a public forum) that they have a mental illness or are taking real life anger out on a video game. Oh, and fun little fact, buddy. I deal with criticism on a daily basis, it's part of my hobby. Yours, however, is the type of criticism that's hilarious to read and means nothing because it lacks a constructive edge.
Your hobby is taking criticism??
And why would I lie about to "save my ass". What would I need to "save my ass" in a video game for?
All in all D-Uni is a good place.
I criticized and it is your hobby to take it. :) Why not take the criticism and improve since after all you guys are the care bear corp. There is still room for improvement and I am sure at the end of the Day D-uni will become a great corp that will have a dedicated staff that can defend planets and no one will be able to touch it and everyone will respect their territory.
/end
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noob cavman
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
Renegade Alliance
179
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Posted - 2013.11.19 15:34:00 -
[105] - Quote
God damn it lads dont make me come over there and give you both a time out  |
daishi mk03
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
370
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Posted - 2013.11.19 17:51:00 -
[106] - Quote
Dust University still alive? The ****.
#1 on the list "things dust doesn't need" <- best list name |
Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1318
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Posted - 2013.11.19 17:58:00 -
[107] - Quote
Wtf this thread is still going?
I'm everyone's type
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Naedeus
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
274
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Posted - 2013.11.19 17:58:00 -
[108] - Quote
Dachande Anasazi wrote:
Your hobby is taking criticism??
And why would I lie about to "save my ass". What would I need to "save my ass" in a video game for?
All in all D-Uni is a good place.
I criticized and it is your hobby to take it. :) Why not take the criticism and improve since after all you guys are the care bear corp. There is still room for improvement and I am sure at the end of the Day D-uni will become a great corp that will have a dedicated staff that can defend planets and no one will be able to touch it and everyone will respect their territory.
/end
Your post lacked constructive criticism, and was filled with blatant lies and insults towards specific members in the community. Also, my hobby is not taking criticism it's writing, and as such I have to deal with criticism for every story I write. Huge difference. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1318
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Posted - 2013.11.19 18:23:00 -
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Naedeus wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:
Your hobby is taking criticism??
And why would I lie about to "save my ass". What would I need to "save my ass" in a video game for?
All in all D-Uni is a good place.
I criticized and it is your hobby to take it. :) Why not take the criticism and improve since after all you guys are the care bear corp. There is still room for improvement and I am sure at the end of the Day D-uni will become a great corp that will have a dedicated staff that can defend planets and no one will be able to touch it and everyone will respect their territory.
/end
Your post lacked constructive criticism, and was filled with blatant lies and insults towards specific members in the community. Also, my hobby is not taking criticism it's writing, and as such I have to deal with criticism for every story I write. Huge difference. EDIT: And out of respect for Heimdallr69, this shall be my last post. 'Cause the point has been made plenty of times now.
I didn't read the last 2 pages after where I posted so I assumed still talking bad about dust uni if not then idc if you keep posting I was just getting sick of the anti dust uni
I'm everyone's type
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1260
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Posted - 2013.11.19 18:57:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:I'm not going to comment on this whole he said this/that/when Chinese whispers because I'm not not one to stifle personal expression (unless it gets hurtful or personal) and its impossible to police said expression in the semi anonimous worlds of the internet. Another reason is that I left school a quarter of a century ago... Plus players tend to adopt a 'Forum Warrior' stance in these threads, that 99 times out of 100 is usually completely contrary to how they actually are when you speak to them over Comms.. As to the review that was posted and spoken of here, it was generally favourable to the UNI, that much is true, but there was reference to a member of D-UNI being referenced as to a female dog which I found rather distasteful so I reported the post. As anyone in D-UNI will testify, I have a zero tolerance attitude to harassment of female players in my corp and that extends to the forums as well. Call me old fashioned in that regard if you want but I'm not going to apologise for it. But threads like this do make me smile if for one reason only. They demonstrate a level of passion for the game, a game that I might remind you, is generally considered as unfinished, lacking in significant features and on the wrong format (get it on PS4 ASAP CCP). It's a passion I share and one that allows me to talk for over an hour in Q&A's and podcasts, even when there's no new content. It's part of the reason I want to stand for the CPM when the elections come and am prepared for my real name being out there as a result and not hide behind an avatar any more.
you have my vote!
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1708
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Posted - 2013.11.19 20:13:00 -
[111] - Quote
Kevall Longstride wrote:I'm not going to comment on this whole he said this/that/when Chinese whispers because I'm not not one to stifle personal expression (unless it gets hurtful or personal) and its impossible to police said expression in the semi anonimous worlds of the internet. Another reason is that I left school a quarter of a century ago... Plus players tend to adopt a 'Forum Warrior' stance in these threads, that 99 times out of 100 is usually completely contrary to how they actually are when you speak to them over Comms.. As to the review that was posted and spoken of here, it was generally favourable to the UNI, that much is true, but there was reference to a member of D-UNI being referenced as to a female dog which I found rather distasteful so I reported the post. As anyone in D-UNI will testify, I have a zero tolerance attitude to harassment of female players in my corp and that extends to the forums as well. Call me old fashioned in that regard if you want but I'm not going to apologise for it. But threads like this do make me smile if for one reason only. They demonstrate a level of passion for the game, a game that I might remind you, is generally considered as unfinished, lacking in significant features and on the wrong format (get it on PS4 ASAP CCP). It's a passion I share and one that allows me to talk for over an hour in Q&A's and podcasts, even when there's no new content. It's part of the reason I want to stand for the CPM when the elections come and am prepared for my real name being out there as a result and not hide behind an avatar any more.
Well said.
I was just trying to be civil towards one another and did not want this thread to explode with fire again.
In hindsight, I did read that review but skipped over the part that got to politics cause (IMO) politics spoil everything.....unless it's something akin to Rob Ford and his little predicament  (yes I'm Canadian so I can make those references).
I do not stand for harassment and abuse. If you have ever squadded with me you will know that I don't mind swearing etc. but if someone says they are offended or asks you stop, I will back them up and askthe "violated" to tone it back.
If everyone is happy, than I'm happy.
/thread. No more posts from me in this thread.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
I'll take your Iskies
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
170
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Posted - 2013.11.19 20:21:00 -
[112] - Quote
CharCharOdell wrote:Did we finally decide that they don't deserve a planet anymore? lol. I hope so.
The Learning Coalition now does that whole 'meta 2 and below' PC thing. We only have 2 districts tho so we can only afford a few/week.
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
2531
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Posted - 2013.11.19 21:32:00 -
[113] - Quote
What am I doing here?
Level 2 Forum Warrior
Hate Lord
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1571
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Posted - 2013.11.19 22:58:00 -
[114] - Quote
Seymor Krelborn wrote:
I really don't understand why another training corp has such disdain for a like minded corp.
I chalk it up to envy and jealousy and I pitty that mentality.
but it doesn't matter the uni shall persevere even in the face of this new unfounded hate we have garnered from a few.
in closing, though I am bemused by the learning coalitions need to flame I still salute them for emulating what the uni founded and applaud there efforts to mimic us.
Unlike DUST University, the Learning Coalition is not a Dictatorship. What one of our members dose on their own time is of no concern to the rest of the council. It does not mean we all approve.
Considering I built DUST University to what it was as of September, I would say that the Learning Coalition reflects my influence rather than being a copy of DUST University.
I am fairly sure that CharCharOdellGÇÖs need to flame predates the formation of the Learning Coalition by a good bit. Working with a Troll is always exciting. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1263
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Posted - 2013.11.19 23:48:00 -
[115] - Quote
Fox Gaden wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:
I really don't understand why another training corp has such disdain for a like minded corp.
I chalk it up to envy and jealousy and I pitty that mentality.
but it doesn't matter the uni shall persevere even in the face of this new unfounded hate we have garnered from a few.
in closing, though I am bemused by the learning coalitions need to flame I still salute them for emulating what the uni founded and applaud there efforts to mimic us.
Unlike DUST University, the Learning Coalition is not a Dictatorship. What one of our members dose on their own time is of no concern to the rest of the council. It does not mean we all approve. Considering I built the Education Department in DUST University to what it was as of September, I would say that the Learning Coalition reflects my influence rather than being a copy of DUST University. I am fairly sure that CharCharOdellGÇÖs need to flame predates the formation of the Learning Coalition by a good bit. Working with a Troll is always exciting.
fox I never had a problem with you, and I'm not going to start a pissing contest with you.
but the fact you are working now with a troll who is trying to destroy what you say you helped build (although most of your work was thrown out for a more stream lined and organized system) doesn't put you in a very good light.
furthermore regardless of the way in which we choose to run the corp if we are helping new players you should be on board with us instead of flaming us... it's shameful coming from a grown up like you.
I always had a lot of respect for you fox, al though you weren't skilled at playing the game you were very knowledgeable of the mechanics and wrote some decent guides, but my real respect for you came from your passion and dedication to helping new players. your actions as of late make me question that respect for you...
as of late you have been extremely petty (probably due to your mental breakdown, which I hope you are recovering from)
But without question if you look at the first post of mr. odell:
"we do that whole meta 2 thing now"
I would call that a copy...
as far as guides go (cause thats really all you did in the ed dept), are you trying to say you invented writing guides?
if so I'm sorry to say, but our sister corp eve university was doing that 10 years ago, though they were not the first to write game guides either.
but you are correct that the learning coalition does reflect your influence.
unfortunately its a negative influence full of spite, flaming, and trolling.
you have my sympathy....
insert witty or profound statement here _______.
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
297
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Posted - 2013.11.19 23:55:00 -
[116] - Quote
This is silly - why doesn't the learning coalition *LOL* work with Dust Uni? Same goals - different views - doesn't mean the two have to collide just because Char is bored.
Learning Coalition is meant to help the community and players, right? So why build conflict with a like-minded group?
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1709
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Posted - 2013.11.19 23:56:00 -
[117] - Quote
Ok guys, I have the utmost respect for both of you but let's all put the flamethrowers down before I get pi$$ed.
Trust me. You DONT want that. If I'm unhappy, EVERYONE is unhappy.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
I'll take your Iskies
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1263
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Posted - 2013.11.19 23:57:00 -
[118] - Quote
SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:This is silly - why doesn't the learning coalition *LOL* work with Dust Uni? Same goals - different views - doesn't mean the two have to collide just because Char is bored.
Learning Coalition is meant to help the community and players, right? So why build conflict with a like-minded group?
I TOTALY AGREE!!!
you all know the uni didn't start this, and we would really like it to end....
insert witty or profound statement here _______.
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Dachande Anasazi
8thDivision
97
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:02:00 -
[119] - Quote
SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:This is silly - why doesn't the learning coalition *LOL* work with Dust Uni? Same goals - different views - doesn't mean the two have to collide just because Char is bored.
Learning Coalition is meant to help the community and players, right? So why build conflict with a like-minded group?
D-Uni is a dictatorship. (And they say that upfront.) So it is a good spot to train but many laid back players get frustrated because it is just a game. (And to be fair they say it right there in the welcome msg)
In a nutshell: Remember what got you kicked from ZionTCD? All remember all the trouble u got into? The TYPES of personalities involved. Same thing here. |
SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
298
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:14:00 -
[120] - Quote
Dachande Anasazi wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:This is silly - why doesn't the learning coalition *LOL* work with Dust Uni? Same goals - different views - doesn't mean the two have to collide just because Char is bored.
Learning Coalition is meant to help the community and players, right? So why build conflict with a like-minded group? D-Uni is a dictatorship. (And they say that upfront.) So it is a good spot to train but many laid back players get frustrated because it is just a game. (And to be fair they say it right there in the welcome msg) In a nutshell: Remember what got you kicked from ZionTCD? All remember all the trouble u got into? The TYPES of personalities involved. Same thing here.
And in the end I still talk to ZionTCD and have helped them in PC.
They run things differently then you do - that's fine, that's why others turn to you. But to cause conflict over ideals on how things should get done just takes steps backwards for both groups.
Some people want to feel a part of something while learning for the experience - others want the freedom to just ask for advice. There's nothing wrong with either approach.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1711
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:19:00 -
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Just throwing this out there.....a dictatorship is actually the most stable form of government....learned that in philosophy/world politics.
NOTE: I said most STABLE. NOT most LIKED/USED/APPROPRIATE way to run a country
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
I'll take your Iskies
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Dachande Anasazi
8thDivision
99
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:21:00 -
[122] - Quote
SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:This is silly - why doesn't the learning coalition *LOL* work with Dust Uni? Same goals - different views - doesn't mean the two have to collide just because Char is bored.
Learning Coalition is meant to help the community and players, right? So why build conflict with a like-minded group? D-Uni is a dictatorship. (And they say that upfront.) So it is a good spot to train but many laid back players get frustrated because it is just a game. (And to be fair they say it right there in the welcome msg) In a nutshell: Remember what got you kicked from ZionTCD? All remember all the trouble u got into? The TYPES of personalities involved. Same thing here. And in the end I still talk to ZionTCD and have helped them in PC. They run things differently then you do - that's fine, that's why others turn to you. But to cause conflict over ideals on how things should get done just takes steps backwards for both groups. Some people want to feel a part of something while learning for the experience - others want the freedom to just ask for advice. There's nothing wrong with either approach.
YEa but there are people's ego. Then there is loyalty. Everyone is different.
They both good groups honestly. I just squaded with bojo school of trade guys. Excellent people.
But in Learning coalition you do have trolls. (evidence of this thread).
And in D-Uni you got people who let being "staff at a university" go to their head.
You have both sets of people in all guilds/corps/clans in all games. Overall both are highly effective.
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Dachande Anasazi
8thDivision
99
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:22:00 -
[123] - Quote
Fire of Prometheus wrote:Just throwing this out there.....a dictatorship is actually the most stable form of government....learned that in philosophy/world politics.
NOTE: I said most STABLE. NOT most LIKED/USED/APPROPRIATE way to run a country
When the country is developing yes. NOT once it has developed.
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1711
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:25:00 -
[124] - Quote
Dachande Anasazi wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Just throwing this out there.....a dictatorship is actually the most stable form of government....learned that in philosophy/world politics.
NOTE: I said most STABLE. NOT most LIKED/USED/APPROPRIATE way to run a country When the country is developing yes. NOT once it has developed. :P
Ehhhh that can be debated
but nonetheless, Let's all agree to let this thread die in a hole known as the war room.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
I'll take your Iskies
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1266
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:28:00 -
[125] - Quote
Fire of Prometheus wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Just throwing this out there.....a dictatorship is actually the most stable form of government....learned that in philosophy/world politics.
NOTE: I said most STABLE. NOT most LIKED/USED/APPROPRIATE way to run a country When the country is developing yes. NOT once it has developed. :P Ehhhh that can be debated but nonetheless, Let's all agree to let this thread die in a hole known as the war room.
/shoots thread in the face
thread lays on the ground bleeding out...
dip dip
insert witty or profound statement here _______.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1575
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:48:00 -
[126] - Quote
TrueXer0z wrote:Trust me..I am far from a pacifist. I just don't feed troll posts by trolls, but I will just once here.
Most of the people spewing hate are a joke to everyone but themselves. Char trying to self promote an organization run by a former D-Uni director that had a mental break down before he left. Promising to say the least. Talking about how he couldn't sleep at night because he was afraid I was out to get him and I was making him physically ill. What a joke. I barely even talked to the guy. Don't believe it? I have the e-mails he sent just before he rage quit and started his little vendetta learning coalition. Just another disgruntled ex member trying to ride the coat tails of an organization he wishes he never left.
For the rest of the people out there that may have had a bad experience is because you didn't take the time to ever see what was really there to offer. Or, you didn't take the time to actually talk with people to know what's up. But, I could honestly care less what anyone thinks about the organization I am a part of. Just a drama filled joke with you trolls written all over it.
Most of you who came in the uni and left in a negative state was because you were too lazy to find the opportunities we offer for yourselves. You want people to hold you hand then you came to the wrong place. We are here to help people not baby them. Read the welcome mail, use our forums, contact the people that are here to help. We have Lectures at least 2-3 times a week. Events happen everyday.
Aww you got upset when I yelled at you when you utterly failed in PC match and didn't do what you were supposed to or followed the orders of your squad leaders? Oh, or did I curse too much and it burned your virgin ears? ****ing crybabies. I take this game too seriously? Or is it I am so dumbfounded that some people (Not all) are so brain dead that they can't follow simple instructions or abide by the rules of a specific organization. And you want to join a competitive corp that is focused on team play and following the commands of your squad and team leaders. HAHA.
But it is ok, sit here on your forums and spit your sewage to our community so that any new member who has a brain logs in and see your ignorance and immediately find something else. Self defecating bunch of jerks. You run people off and try to mess with establishments that are in the business of helping the community, then have the gull to complain and say this game is dying. lol.
I could go on and on, but I doubt most of you read this far without responding with some not really that funny, but will be blown up to be troll post.
"You mad bro?" Maybe a little. But, no one cares. So I will go back to my corner of Dust 514 and try my best to help this game grow. With our without the communities' support.
Oh and PS: We didn't fight for those districts. We no showed because we couldn't care less.
PPS: Char, been in IG for a while now, nothing goes on..no activity, no forum activity, Anything of note is a bunch of guides written by one guy who maybe plays 1 or 2 hours a week. And, isn't very good.
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1712
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:54:00 -
[127] - Quote
Fox Gaden wrote:TrueXer0z wrote:Trust me..I am far from a pacifist. I just don't feed troll posts by trolls, but I will just once here.
Most of the people spewing hate are a joke to everyone but themselves. Char trying to self promote an organization run by a former D-Uni director that had a mental break down before he left. Promising to say the least. Talking about how he couldn't sleep at night because he was afraid I was out to get him and I was making him physically ill. What a joke. I barely even talked to the guy. Don't believe it? I have the e-mails he sent just before he rage quit and started his little vendetta learning coalition. Just another disgruntled ex member trying to ride the coat tails of an organization he wishes he never left.
For the rest of the people out there that may have had a bad experience is because you didn't take the time to ever see what was really there to offer. Or, you didn't take the time to actually talk with people to know what's up. But, I could honestly care less what anyone thinks about the organization I am a part of. Just a drama filled joke with you trolls written all over it.
Most of you who came in the uni and left in a negative state was because you were too lazy to find the opportunities we offer for yourselves. You want people to hold you hand then you came to the wrong place. We are here to help people not baby them. Read the welcome mail, use our forums, contact the people that are here to help. We have Lectures at least 2-3 times a week. Events happen everyday.
Aww you got upset when I yelled at you when you utterly failed in PC match and didn't do what you were supposed to or followed the orders of your squad leaders? Oh, or did I curse too much and it burned your virgin ears? ****ing crybabies. I take this game too seriously? Or is it I am so dumbfounded that some people (Not all) are so brain dead that they can't follow simple instructions or abide by the rules of a specific organization. And you want to join a competitive corp that is focused on team play and following the commands of your squad and team leaders. HAHA.
But it is ok, sit here on your forums and spit your sewage to our community so that any new member who has a brain logs in and see your ignorance and immediately find something else. Self defecating bunch of jerks. You run people off and try to mess with establishments that are in the business of helping the community, then have the gull to complain and say this game is dying. lol.
I could go on and on, but I doubt most of you read this far without responding with some not really that funny, but will be blown up to be troll post.
"You mad bro?" Maybe a little. But, no one cares. So I will go back to my corner of Dust 514 and try my best to help this game grow. With our without the communities' support.
Oh and PS: We didn't fight for those districts. We no showed because we couldn't care less.
PPS: Char, been in IG for a while now, nothing goes on..no activity, no forum activity, Anything of note is a bunch of guides written by one guy who maybe plays 1 or 2 hours a week. And, isn't very good. Holy Personal Attacks Bat Man!
Come on, I know he's venting so let's just leave this thread ok?
o7 I hold nothing against you Fox :)
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
I'll take your Iskies
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Dachande Anasazi
8thDivision
100
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:55:00 -
[128] - Quote
Seymor Krelborn wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Just throwing this out there.....a dictatorship is actually the most stable form of government....learned that in philosophy/world politics.
NOTE: I said most STABLE. NOT most LIKED/USED/APPROPRIATE way to run a country When the country is developing yes. NOT once it has developed. :P Ehhhh that can be debated but nonetheless, Let's all agree to let this thread die in a hole known as the war room. /shoots thread in the face thread lays on the ground bleeding out... dip dip
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1575
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Naedeus wrote:
Boy, aren't you a big kid?
Let's spy on a corporation who has all of their information publicly available, who accepts everyone and anyone regardless of their previous affiliations, who gives out information to people willing to work with them for the betterment of the community. You think you're smart and a god at infiltration because you can successfully spy on Dust University.
Easy now, you are going to undermine TrueXer0z' accomplishment of getting a Spy into Immortal Guides.
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Posted - 2013.11.20 06:30:00 -
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Training corp on Training corp violence Oh My...
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I'm a bittervet, if I seem like a douche it's because of your stupidity
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Naedeus
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:This is silly - why doesn't the learning coalition *LOL* work with Dust Uni? Same goals - different views - doesn't mean the two have to collide just because Char is bored.
Learning Coalition is meant to help the community and players, right? So why build conflict with a like-minded group?
*Puts on his Sherlock Holmes detective hat.* I'm glad you asked this question, Sota. Let me explain.
The Learning Coalition was founded by three people: CharCharODell, Artificer Ghost, and Fox Gaden. Correct? Correct.
Now, CharCharODell is an interesting subject. I say this because I believe there are two different types of trolls; those who do it for fun, and then those who do it to purposely disrupt any good intentions within a community. Mister O'Dell, falls under the latter from what I've seen. This thread is a good example.
Next we have Artificer Ghost. He's the current CEO of Bojo's School of the Trades. Many people may or may not know this, but back in May when Planetary Conquest was announced. Dust University and Bojo's had planned to create Planet Dojo on Hedaleofarber, and have friendly training matches against each other. Of course, this was when Bojo himself was leading the corporation. When Planetary Conquest finally rolled around, Dust University was actually able to put a clone pack down, thanks to their CEO staying up practically all night until the patch went live.
The very next day Dust University was wardec'd by CRONOS and promptly forced out of Planetary Conquest. I remember looking around the starmap to find any districts owned by Bojo's and couldn't. I even occasionally hoped into their public channel to see what was up, and during one such occurrence I was informed that Bojo had disappeared and that Artificer Ghost was stepping up. The person who informed me about this was Artificer Ghost himself. I told him good luck, and since that point communications between both groups ceased to exist.
For a while, I had thought Bojo's crashed and burned.
Then we have Fox Gaden. At the time, Fox was the Director of Education for Dust University, and was doing an alright job. He's great at theory crafting and has a fondness for writing guides. Whether his guides are practical on the field or not, doesn't really concern me. (They're not, D-UNI's R&D guy checked up on it. It's all theory.) However, some internal drama happened months before PC was even announced, and resulted in people with goals and a means to an end came into the Directorship.
Now, Fox here is clearly easily manipulated, and was influenced by an outside force that another director was after his job. Fox grew paranoid and exchanged e-mails (which are archived) between D-UNI's CEO, myself, and the director involved. I can cite one exact phrase, "I'm losing sleep over it." Fox opted out rather than actually discussing anything with any of the other directors (at this time I became the Director of Diplomacy.) He re-applied to Dust University the following day after having a chat with the CEO, and stayed in for roughly a week before quietly packing his things and disappearing. Shortly after, he created Immortal Guides.
One thing linked these individuals together. Dust University.
I can only assume that after his creation phase of Immortal Guides, Fox began talking to everyone and anyone that would willingly listen to him ramble about his hardships. In return, he fed them lies about Dust University and had them contact members in the community who were strongly opposed to the Dust University leadership as 'evidence' supporting his claims. The external forces that caused Fox to become paranoid happened to know a few people, who knew a few people, and eventually Charolette O'Dell, hoisting his 'Mango and Friends' flag came forwards supporting Fox's Anti-Dust University cause, probably taking it further than what Fox originally wanted. But... Fox isn't a leadership type and quickly back down - conforming to what his dream was becoming - eventually accepting it as reality.
Of course, through the use of delicate diplomacy, they got Artificer Ghost to jump on the band wagon, and the internal scheming began.
Soon after, they hoisted the flag of supporting the New Player Experience and New Players in general. Founding The Learning Coalition. A few Dust University members, myself being one, joined the channel and helped out with what we knew or provided ISK for those who requested it for skill book purchases, or equipment purchases.
Dust University had finally moved back into PC during the FEC vs EoN war, negotiating with both sides to have Hrober V as a neutral planet, of which I was part of the negotiations. The Learning Coalition had yet to actually launch what would be their first series of their forum based attacks. When Dust University announced it's public lecture on meta-gaming, the first shots were fired, though covertly with the addition of a fourth member in their little gang, a corporation hopper known as Dachande Anasazi. Who came into Dust University looking to assist the corporation, only to leave after an incident. In the end he publicly posted a now deleted thread in which he personally attacked specific members of the leadership.
Fox and Artificer Ghost both supported this thread openly. Thus clued me, and the CEO of D-UNI in that something foul was afoot. We continued on with our day-to-day operations after the thread was removed.
About a month later, IG and Bojo enter PC after O'Dell's training request was deliberately ignored by Dust University. A day after they enter Planetary Conquest, Ancient Exiles reforms PFC, calling Dust University to speak with them diplomatically. Diplomats were sent, but not received by AE. The Learning Coalition was clearly behind these attacks as well, to remove their own competition out from Planetary Conquest.
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Dachande Anasazi
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.20 12:13:00 -
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Naedeus wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:This is silly - why doesn't the learning coalition *LOL* work with Dust Uni? Same goals - different views - doesn't mean the two have to collide just because Char is bored.
Learning Coalition is meant to help the community and players, right? So why build conflict with a like-minded group? Dust University had finally moved back into PC during the FEC vs EoN war, negotiating with both sides to have Hrober V as a neutral planet, of which I was part of the negotiations. The Learning Coalition had yet to actually launch what would be their first series of their forum based attacks. When Dust University announced it's public lecture on meta-gaming, the first shots were fired, though covertly with the addition of a fourth member in their little gang, a corporation hopper known as Dachande Anasazi. Who came into Dust University looking to assist the corporation, only to leave after an incident. In the end he publicly posted a now deleted thread in which he personally attacked specific members of the leadership. .
May wanna takeoff that detective hat. Fox reached out to me AFTER I wrote the review. I only knew about Bojo (and learning coalition by extension but never met fox) and I recommended D-uni join with them.
My only concern was writing reviews to help new comers choose which type of organization they wished to join.
A) D-Uni = Dictatorship but highly organized. Some people have ego problems that go unchecked (YOU)
B) Learning coalition = so far I gather they are decentralized disorganized. Full of people who are laid back to game with but do troll others (evidence of this thread - CHAR)
I just recently rolled with bojo.
I haven't written anything because Learning coalition works in a very limited time zone.
Again if I was out to "destroy" D-Uni I would have said it sucked. I reviewed it said ti was good but let peopleknow the personalities involved. So people can decide do they want to roll with personalities like YOU (Nadues) or Char. Now Yes I prefer Char's personality and Other's in Mango.
Others may prefer yours.
No ill intentions from my part. And I apologized earlier this thread for the language. (After kevall post)
At the end of the day, just like how boxers choose coaches, or gyms that is how n00bs will choose the tutorial corps. I was only trying to help n00bs. (Are they personality type A and won't liek dictatorship and like decentralization or are they personality type B and like the structure d-uni provides)
(I will write my review on learning coalition after I make time to signon during their timezone)
And as far as D-Uni being a dictatorship, THAT IS HOW YOU GUYS LIKE IT!!
So please stop being a damn lil punk. I really don't care if it fails or succeeds. Heck I said it will succeed. I just want different people to know their options. Which is fair enough.
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