I managed 4 on one mag today. Aim better.

Great post IWS, I have no idea why people obsess over low TTK games. I mean yes having your TTK way to high makes it where people can just be stupid and run straight at a group of enemies, but crazy low TTK just turns it into a twitch shooter which are boring as hell. And for rowdy above me, they did give all weapons a 10% buff to dmg during the change from Chomosome to Uprising the skill they removed was sharpshooter which they retooled on some weapons to be a disperson skill. The old sharpshooter had AR's shooting at LR ranges, HMG's shooting at AR ranges, and LR's shooting at sniper ranges.

Someone suggested adding multiple hit boxes to the player.
Efficiencies:

100% - Head
60% - Chest
50% - Lower Torso
30% - Limbs

This could outright fix ttk issues no?

I wished that was a solution but we're at our speed limits almost. (proto minni scout + max proto kin kats = almost breaking game)

Someone suggested adding multiple hit boxes to the player.
Efficiencies:

100% - Head
60% - Chest
50% - Lower Torso
30% - Limbs

This could outright fix ttk issues no?

I wished that was a solution but we're at our speed limits almost. (proto minni scout + max proto kin kats = almost breaking game)

.....Your shitting me? How in the world is that almost breaking the game? If anything it's our only advantage. Plus, will there be a fix on stunlocking and phantom running for Scouts?

Good to see that you aren't afraid to speak your mind.

On the other hand, raising TTK makes engagements less focused on gun game, and more on appropriate counters and tactics.

TL;DR for those who are lazy.
Damage values are percentage based, which yield larger values from higher bases. By decreasing TTK, you devalue that percentage (for example, right now the bonus is killing 0.1 seconds faster, but with a higher base, that bonus could be increased to about 0.5)

If you increase TTK, using weapons that are more effective vs. shields or armor would play a major factor in who wins firefights, not just who can apply DPS the fastest (hence the AR or ScR spam nowadays)

FOR EXAMPLE:

Gallente GK.0 vs Caldari CK.0 (assume stereotype tanking, with gallente stacking armor and caldari stacking shields)

lets just assume equal eHP, with 600 total.
100-500 for GK.0 and 500-100 for CK.0

Lets say that they both use AR's.

Standard DPS for AR is about 440

The Armor tank will rip through the shields in 1 second and the armor in 1/4 of a second. TTK is now roughly 1.25 seconds.
The Shield tank will rip through the shields in .2 seconds and the armor in 1.26 seconds. TTK is now 1.4

The difference is around 0.15 seconds. Thats a measly 66 damage with the AR. About 2 bullets difference. You miss 2 shots, and the armor tank loses his advantage.

Now lets say that we increase the TTK. Lets make them heavies with 2000eHP instead.

700-1300 vs. 1300-700 <-------- I know it's not realistic, thats not the point. I've really increased the eHP. Lets see the effect

So now we have to deal 2000 damage with a 440 DPS weapon. With an AR, the armor tanked heavy will kill the targets shields in 2.7 seconds and kill the armor in 1.7. TTK is now 4.4 seconds.

Now lets compare that to the other shoe. The Shield tanked one will kill the shields in 1.4 seconds and get through the armor in 3.3 seconds. Total TTK is now 4.7

That's only a .3 second difference, but that difference is around 132 eHP left to the survivor.

Now lets see what happens you enter the Advantageous encounter: You have an Armor tank with an ScR and an SMG as a backup. You face off against a Shield tank with only a ScR. Time for more maths.

700-1300 vs 1300-700

ScR does 20% extra damage to shields, but lets assume for DPS sake, that the DPS is equal to an AR. (This is to show the percentage difference, not the weapon difference).

Armor tank rips though the shields in 2.4 seconds. Switch to SMG. SMG deals 10% extra damage to armor (once again, DPS is still 440). Armor is gone in 1.4 seconds. TTK is now 3.8. That is almost a full second faster than the other tank. That is 440 eHP. You should win that engagement every time on equal ground.

With larger TTK's, the game will reward people who engage targets based on their weapons strengths. Right now, it's just a game of who shot who first with the AR or ScR.

This would push the PS3 budget too far according to CCP

I think a better option is to give scouts less of a strafe and back pedal penalty or none at all for them allowing them to have a means of agility and role defining characteristic for its size. (while giving everyone else the pack pedal speed penalty)

Overall the problem with the speed limit is the game doesn't know what to do with infantry moving that fast. This is probably why earlier builds did have infantry to infantry collision damage and they where not supposed to. While its something I too would like to see done tis not a viable option in the short run because you will get faster heavies and faster mediums and the mediums are going to role stomp on the scouts even more so when the scout's own speed cannot be risen any further.

Wikia states 5.7 run and 7.9 sprint for matar while gallente suffers at 5.5 and 7.6.

Unfourtuantely there is not an api fed stats available yet so bleh its likely wrong. Also its quite time in the house can't boot up to check.

I do know the Gallente scout is sorta screwed up with 1 high 4 lows and with 3 of them that's about 30% more sprint speed though

-Remove the emergency 10% damage buff on all weapons
-Reevaluate TTK and buff under performing weapons
-Remove the proficiency skill or make it affect DPS indirectly
-Reevaluate TTK
-Reduce the cap on strafing speed
-Reevaluate TTK
-Buff dropsuit base EHP
-Reevaluate TTK

I managed 4 on one mag today. Aim better.

Please explain how. Don't just insult people out of spite and/or jealousy.

CCP, I love what you've done with TTK it means i can kill more people with one mag, not 2 mags to kill one.

After the thread named something like "CCP Allows glitchers to win tournament", IWS decided he'd drop some opinion which: Justified the use of glitches and called you **** if you were on the wrong end of the glitch. As he is a face of CPM combined the opinion I got is that IWS and CPM are jokes.
No possible way of being jealous of IWS

Sounds like a good plan of action in decent order.

It would? Damn... Even though it would make the game far better..

I've got 12 million skill points and I can get just as many kills using militia gear as my gek, this isn't right :/ why did I level up?

With that do know the CPM is unanimous on the TTK issue and are working closely with CCP on a favorable solution.

Great Thread BTW IWS

As a side note:

Did you know that in BF4 and BF3 that all ARs or weapon classes have the same Damage and Range, yet an M416 will easily out gun an AEK in a distanced battle. I personally do not think ARs should be balance based on optimal range, but more on stability, recoil, and RoF.

BTW when are you gonna start playing PC I sure every team needs OMNI specialist to ring for them