Right about what?

If a tank cant gun down infantry (save from maybe an overheat) before it gets blow to pieces, then yeah the tanker does suck.

Herp Derp. You do realize that this thread is about the PRO tanks that are going to be coming in the vehicle update right?

Tier 3 is prototype, this is fact

Enforcers may suck, but technically it is a prototype

Void Echo, try again. And this time use logic.

Basically you are saying that we should have to use all of our best crap, with multiple people at that. While you want to be able to solo us?

So you should be able to solo us and we shouldn't? Not real balancing, that's just a gate way to stomping ppl

Double Standards dude. Double Standards.

if you use av grenades alone, then you suck

Did I say that I only use AV grenades?

When did I say I only use AV grenades?

SMH. If I'm right then, just admit it. But don't put words in my mouth or just ignore the answer completly.

Our **** costs 15x more than yours. Try again.

Void Echo, try again. And this time use logic.

Basically you are saying that we should have to use all of our best crap, with multiple people at that. While you want to be able to solo us?

im not using a dropsuit, so yeah im superior in combat to you, if I wasn't then what would be the point in skilling into tanks? its meant to overpower you and be superior to infantry, that's logic.

So you should be able to solo us and we shouldn't? Not real balancing, that's just a gate way to stomping ppl

you guys already solo us all the ******* time, one av guy can lock down the whole map from an entire squad of tanks for the whole match, that's not balance at all.. av is an easy road to points..

Double Standards dude. Double Standards. coming from you that's a riot.. il admit I do double standards when you actually read for once.

Lets break down cost here:

A avarage STD tank runing all STD gear costs 450k (don't feed me that BS about 1M, you make it cost 1M)
My best AV fit costs 135k.

So if there are infantry on the ground that kill me (and no a pistol or spraying and praying won't help, and I lose at least 3-4 suits, then that's 540k down the crap hole.

Bottom line is, if you wan't them to cost more, then they cost more. And yeah I comparted STD tank gear to my PRO AV. and here's why:

1.) STD tanks can get the job done just as easily (involving killing infantry)
2.) STD & ADV AV gear does jack ****, (especially if you have a Gunnlogi.
3.) Using STD/ADV gear will guarantee that the tank knows where you are, and that everyone and his grandma will hunt you down, while you are tickling the tank

The fact that anyone thinks that STD & ADV AV gear works tells me that they aren't AV at all

Try Again.

im not ignoring anything lol, im pointing out your flaws...

your defending lol nades, which is the worst weapon in the game.

Well yeah of course I'm defending lolnades, the require you to be close to the tank and in CQC, whic can be very dangerous sometimes. (If you can throw from 75m, then yeah you deserve a hit).

Next post from OP:
We nefed lolnades because we got tired of not being able to get up close and stomp everyone in our loltanks, but now these proximity explosives are so OP, oh and while we've yet to give a good reason as to why any of this stuff needs a nerf, we should ner PLCs too!

Tanks need lots of love, at their current price either buff to survivability or nerf to price. Same thing with dropships.. it should take a few peoples coordinated efforts to take out the best tank in the game. With my pro FG fitting I can take out most tanks solo, forget even needing lolnades... or do enough damage to make em run, therefore eliminating their usefulness on the battlefield. If I have the ability to hit their critical spot no tank stands a chance.

signed,

Self proclaimed forge gun extraordinaire

Tanks need lots of love, at their current price either buff to survivability or nerf to price. Same thing with dropships.. it should take a few peoples coordinated efforts to take out the best tank in the game. With my pro FG fitting I can take out most tanks solo, forget even needing lolnades... or do enough damage to make em run, therefore eliminating their usefulness on the battlefield. If I have the ability to hit their critical spot no tank stands a chance.

signed,

Self proclaimed forge gun extraordinaire

with nades, your free to equipped an ar or something to shoot other infantry, whats the sacrifice? a grenade slot? wo the **** what, I don't know anyone that gives that slot godly status or praises it like its a ******* god module.

weve given countless reasons why av should be nerfed from before... and now also.. but someone as biased as you will never see logic or understand balance and therefor rejects anything you don't agree with....

wait... wait I think I got it, your lukeboy's alt, that's the only way to explain your stupidity here.

I don't want to have to not solo you because:

1) Not everyone has good AV gear
2) I could blast you with everything I got (lose 6 suits in the processes), and some blueberry troll could get the WP and the rewards by shooting him with a MLT Forge Gun, leaving me with a measly 75 WP. You know this

3.) Most ppl are idiots and refuse to go AV, so that won't happen in most cases and you already knew this.

If you can fix this then I'll be on board with the whole "everyone should have to focus on the tank while the enemy infantry steals all the objectives and stuff" idea.

Until then you can GTFO.

I've given countless reasons why av shouldn't be nerfed from before....and now also.. but someone as biased as you will never see logic or understand balance and therefore rejects anything you don't agree with..

Who is lukeboy?


If you can fix these in a sensible way then I'll be on board with you idea, and no forcing the use of basic AV 9WHIC DIES THE SAME DAMAGE AS MLT AV), is not sensible, what if I forced you to use MLT Turrets?

then justify forcing tanks to use basic hulls while you get adv and proto weapons.

Fine:

Basic hull=/=Basic Dropsuit
Proto Mods=/=Proto Dmg Mods
Proto Turrets=/=Proto AV Weaponry

Also if lolnades are a problem, then how about we just harden them against tanks, because currently, it's primary use are against LAVs Murder Taxis

However that still doesn't solve problems 2 and 3.

BASIC AV DOES THE SAME DAMAGE AS MIILITIA AV

Problem two can be fixed by giving vehicle damage rewards. Simple to put in, and allows for a steady income of wp's for AV'ers. Problem three can't be fixed, as like you said, they are idiots. Don't balance on idiots, ever.

The only way I could see teamwork and AV being implemented fairly, is your solution, and maybe about three people (half a squad) to take down a tank. If everyone had to use AV then tanks squads would be beyond OP, and that is another problem. If everyone would have to use AV for one tank, then what happens when we have a squad of tanks? And PC?

Nerf the price, or reward us for simply scaring them off, maybe then I won't feel so inclined to blow up everyone i see