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Zatara Rought
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Posted - 2013.10.11 20:01:00 -
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8213 wrote:News flash: You're not a slayer. You're a selfish killwhore.
Slayers aren't supposed to just rack up kills. They are suppose to kill specific players. They don't get the most kills they get the strategic kills.
Defense kills, defending an objective. Offense kills, clearing out and protecting objective takers. Neutralizing the other teams slayer.
Killwhoring a bunch of Militia noobs accomplishes nothing. Its just selfish K/D buffing, even in Ambush.
In DUST you can go 50-0 and still lose. You may not need a Logo, but you're team as a whole won't win without one. I've gone 30s-0 and had my squad go 100-0 and still lost, because a revived clone means nothing on the scoreboard.
Man me n you (once you're on your main) need to have a session.
"The Pro's of Core Nading" is a 2 week course that you clearly are in need of my friend
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Posted - 2013.10.11 20:02:00 -
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Severus Smith wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:1. I hardly die in ambush why would I need spawns links, and I would never spawn on a random uplink.
2. I carry my own ammo
3. I shield tank, why would I want reps
So again, tell me how the Logi is helping me win? I've sad it before. Want to balance this game more? Give Assault suits +3% RoF per level and remove their equipment. That makes them specialized killing machines (as they should be) who are also reliant on support troops (as they should be) to restock their ammo / get them back in to the front lines. Right now a squad of 6 Assaults (a specialized suit) can repair, scan, restock ammo, revive, and drop uplinks. If you make them more deadly but remove their equipment they need to bring at least one Logi with them to keep them stocked / alive. Then ReGnYuM wont complain about "useless" Logi's as he needs them to keep his Gallente WP tube stocked with bullets. Yay specialization!
He isn't gallente. |
Zatara Rought
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Posted - 2013.10.11 20:47:00 -
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As a talented logistics player a really good logistics player can compete with the best slayers in kills, and yet own the **** out of the slayers on wp's.
I drop 40+ kill games soloing skirmish for the Ammar, and carry the team with my first fit setting 11 proto links 2+ at each obj that carries the game for my team (cause lol blueberries being reliable dropping links) and yet I can focus all game on killing and then post scores like:
Ambush
Ammer FW
PC
And then blueberries send you e-peen stroking mailz like this one from when I started shaking off the rust last week.
overall as a slayer logi I can fit proto links, enhanced scanner, proto hives, and an enhanced injector +1k hp at 4.6 move speed + proto duvolle and core locus.
Sure it took me 22+ mill hp to get it all together but it's pretty amazing. Logi's are slayer with equips imo. there's few times me on a repping hive > an assault switching to his sidearm
Just saying
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Zatara Rought
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Posted - 2013.10.11 20:53:00 -
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The legend345 wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:As a talented logistics player a really good logistics player can compete with the best slayers in kills, and yet own the **** out of the slayers on wp's. I drop 40+ kill games soloing skirmish for the Ammar, and carry the team with my first fit setting 11 proto links 2+ at each obj that carries the game for my team (cause lol blueberries being reliable dropping links) and yet I can focus all game on killing and then post scores like: AmbushAmmer FWPCAnd then blueberries send you e-peen stroking mailz like this one from when I started shaking off the rust last week. overall as a slayer logi I can fit proto links, enhanced scanner, proto hives, and an enhanced injector +1k hp at 4.6 move speed + proto duvolle and core locus. Sure it took me 22+ mill hp to get it all together but it's pretty amazing. Logi's are slayer with equips imo. there's few times me on a repping hive > an assault switching to his sidearm Just saying In other words core locus nade... I mean
Nah gun game. Go watch match 4 of the tourney and tell me about marauder throwing core's though :P Duvolle vs Officer weaps for the win son. GOML!
nvm...BANG BANG |
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Posted - 2013.10.11 23:03:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:So I see this post is still going strong. Stop encouraging Regnyum's attention-whoring. I know it's nice for him to think his opinions are relevant, but wouldn't the truth be better for him? no this is a serious issue all around their needs to be rewards for those of us who full fill our roles exceptionally and go beyond the parameters of our spec. a logi who runs 28/3 with 2500 wp should be rewarded substantially more than a scrub just wp harvesting..ccp need to put in match objectives that can increase your end match results. the same said for a slayer... i would also like a bonus at the end of the game of you win your squad an orbital if i pull 2500 wo i should get a bonus if i kill 30 people without i dieing i should get a bonus..by what i just said that would be +400k ... if their were substantial rewards for perfection scrubs harvesting wp for their scores wouldnt matter..because position on the leaderboards wouldn't effect isk so much..sure you may not be on top but depending on what you did your payout could be high. ccp needs to give us PROPER rewards their are people that fulfill multiple roles on the battle field that would really appreciate adequate pay for the risks they take.
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Zatara Rought
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Posted - 2013.10.12 00:03:00 -
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Rudy Vandersario wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:As a talented logistics player a really good logistics player can compete with the best slayers in kills, and yet own the **** out of the slayers on wp's. I drop 40+ kill games soloing skirmish for the Ammar, and carry the team with my first fit setting 11 proto links 2+ at each obj that carries the game for my team (cause lol blueberries being reliable dropping links) and yet I can focus all game on killing and then post scores like: AmbushAmmer FWPCAnd then blueberries send you e-peen stroking mailz like this one from when I started shaking off the rust last week. overall as a slayer logi I can fit proto links, enhanced scanner, proto hives, and an enhanced injector +1k hp at 4.6 move speed + proto duvolle and core locus. Sure it took me 22+ mill hp to get it all together but it's pretty amazing. Logi's are slayer with equips imo. there's few times me on a repping hive > an assault switching to his sidearm Just saying It's funny (as in it's bull****) how you regularly get 40+ kills but all 3 of those pics is 22/1? Do you think 22/1 makes you some amazing killer? Because you sure talk like you are but then the stats you posted don't back it up.
Umm...lol? Pic 1 is a 22/1 of 80 kill ambush, solo. Pic 2 IS a 42 kill game I got recently, pic 3 is me topping the leaderboards as a logi while still killing 18/6 against traky, la flash and wtf...mvp in addition to killing more than everyone else on my team I think.
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Zatara Rought
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Posted - 2013.10.12 01:53:00 -
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Rudy Vandersario wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Rudy Vandersario wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:As a talented logistics player a really good logistics player can compete with the best slayers in kills, and yet own the **** out of the slayers on wp's. I drop 40+ kill games soloing skirmish for the Ammar, and carry the team with my first fit setting 11 proto links 2+ at each obj that carries the game for my team (cause lol blueberries being reliable dropping links) and yet I can focus all game on killing and then post scores like: AmbushAmmer FWPCAnd then blueberries send you e-peen stroking mailz like this one from when I started shaking off the rust last week. overall as a slayer logi I can fit proto links, enhanced scanner, proto hives, and an enhanced injector +1k hp at 4.6 move speed + proto duvolle and core locus. Sure it took me 22+ mill hp to get it all together but it's pretty amazing. Logi's are slayer with equips imo. there's few times me on a repping hive > an assault switching to his sidearm Just saying It's funny (as in it's bull****) how you regularly get 40+ kills but all 3 of those pics is 22/1? Do you think 22/1 makes you some amazing killer? Because you sure talk like you are but then the stats you posted don't back it up. Umm...lol? Pic 1 is a 22/1 of 80 kill ambush, solo. Pic 2 IS a 42 kill game I got recently, pic 3 is me topping the leaderboards as a logi while still killing 18/6 against traky, la flash and wtf in a pc match...mvp in addition to killing more than everyone else on my team I think. On my phone it's all the same 22/1 pic. Either way you make out you regularly make 40+ kills but on the evidence that is not exactly true is it. Anyone could take photos of great scores it doesn't mean you get them all the time. Sorry to pick on you there's just something about your bragging that I don't like.
I'll post some more from tonight if you like
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Zatara Rought
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Posted - 2013.10.12 02:33:00 -
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I still make people look bad solo.
Oh here's for the guy that thought i don't drop 40+ matches on the regular.
Here's my last one, i can take pics every game if you like.
I know it's tough to believe but some of us are that good. xD |
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Posted - 2013.10.12 05:38:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:AV is by far the easiest role, hold down fire release, next vehicle. AV is the hardest role in the game! You actually have to aim, charge, ior lock on for three seconds. That's way to difficult
Depends on the situation. In you're on the ground at eye level with av, then it's even and can be difficult if the tank runs out of view or behind cover of terrain or building.
Llavs can tank and run for the hills like crazy. Tanks can take all of my proficiency 4 swarms and walk away....and then i reload (for the 2nd time after first getting ammo from a hive or supply depot) and they're behind cover...
Only time av is OP is when you're up on a stupid building like most av's do. Thats the dumb part. CCP should make buildings destructible or design the maps better (I don't want the flight ceiling reintroduced that kept them from doing it before). |
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Posted - 2013.10.12 05:39:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote: And ARs sit on a nanohive and core nade spam
Or we shoot Warlord and he dies from my duvolle. xD |
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Zatara Rought
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Posted - 2013.10.12 05:45:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote: And ARs sit on a nanohive and core nade spam
Or we shoot Warlord and he dies from my duvolle. xD Sadly I die more to core nades then Proto AR
If only they gave you 1 ehp more for every like you had on the forums we'd be beasts in an ocean of nublets xD |
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Posted - 2013.10.12 12:47:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Anything a slayer can do, a logi can do.
A logi can hold down a point using his gun, some RE and some nades (not really required but still viable).
A slayer can do the same but wouldn't have the slots to keep going after he runs out of ammo, nades and RE.
A logi would use some nanos to replenish ammo for anything.
Slayer has to choose, nanos or RE?
A logi would toss uplinks down so allied troops can help him out.
Slayer has to choos, nanos, RE, or uplinks?
Don't tell me a logi can't do this because I did it using a breach SMG and some RE, 1 nanohive and 1 uplink that I tossed after about 1 minute of wave after wave of reds.
sooo...assault do need a buff because a slightly faster suit that has a sidearm < way higher pg/cpu +5r/s + equip slots galore? |
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Posted - 2013.10.12 12:54:00 -
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SgtDoughnut wrote:Johnny Guilt wrote:I don't understand anymore,if it not one things it's another with some players,one day your going to wake up with no logi beside you, wishing you had reps, ammo,revive etc and they wont be there and you'll die alone. Nah guys like him just call everyone else scrubs when they cant get the support they need.
Guys like him go 29-0 in an ambush and: didn't need any links because your team couldn't die fast enough to stymie his gungame carrying. didn't need hives because he's got his own didn't need reps cause he's self sufficient didn't need an injector because why die in the first place? didn't need anything from the logi to pull his weight and the weight of the other 9 that made up the top ten of his team.
All his team had to do to was average 3 kills a player + him = win. |
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Posted - 2013.10.12 14:01:00 -
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My point was that logi's shouldn't be such great killers to pull games like these on the regular while getting way more wp's than everyone else on top of it. Because it's just as ez to kill with a logi suit, even if you're carrying good equips and do your job.
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Posted - 2013.10.12 14:33:00 -
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Beyond Creation wrote:WP is like an assaults kills. Without so much points you'd wonder, what the hell was this guy doing to get so little kills. And its should be rewarded as such. repping someone isn't nearly as fun as killing someone.
But you can kill just fine as a logi! And thus eat your cake (with bacon) as well! |
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