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Funkmaster Whale
Daedali Inc.
628
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Posted - 2013.09.19 13:40:00 -
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Two dominations, back to back:
Round One: Stat Sheet Scoreboard
Round Two: Stat Sheet Scoreboard
So I decided to spec into Forge Guns about two weeks ago and lo and behold the results. I've had better records with an AR (63-0) and back-in-the-day OP TAC AR (72-0), but for being relatively new to the FG scene I was surprised just how effective they are.
(Note: Wouldn't have been possible without my beastly logibro ONE-EYE GOON) |
Croned
The Generals EoN.
381
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Posted - 2013.09.19 14:03:00 -
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Was this mainly against vehicles or against infantry? Also, one balance for the Forge Gun is that the crosshairs aren't easy to aim with, and I just couldn't help but notice those green, foriegn crosshairs in the middle of the scoreboard screenshots that seem like hey would fit perfectly inside the the forge gun crosshair box. That's about as cheater-like as using a modded controller. |
Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
183
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Posted - 2013.09.19 14:10:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Two dominations, back to back: Round One: Stat SheetScoreboardRound Two: Stat SheetScoreboardSo I decided to spec into Forge Guns about two weeks ago and lo and behold the results. I've had better records with an AR (63-0) and back-in-the-day OP TAC AR (72-0), but for being relatively new to the FG scene I was surprised just how effective they are. (Note: Wouldn't have been possible without my beastly logibro ONE-EYE GOON) You are using mouse and keyboard. And people say DS3 with aim assist is OP. But clearly the mouse has bettery sensitivity and you can aim the forgegun more accurately. Im more surprised that you could fit the proto forgegun on a standard suit. If you want to take full advantage of it then dont spec sentinel heavy. Go for the basic frame proto heavy cause it gets 2 high slots and 3 low. While the proto sentinel gets 4 low and only 1 high slot. Simple sayd the basic frame is better cause you can fit 2 damage mods and it cost half the SP compared to the sentinel. |
Ion Crush
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
89
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Posted - 2013.09.19 14:19:00 -
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Croned wrote:Was this mainly against vehicles or against infantry? Also, one balance for the Forge Gun is that the crosshairs aren't easy to aim with, and I just couldn't help but notice those green, foriegn crosshairs in the middle of the scoreboard screenshots that seem like hey would fit perfectly inside the the forge gun crosshair box. That's about as cheater-like as using a modded controller.
Holy shiet I almost missed the crosshairs, add that with the mouse and m/kb now we see whats really OP. |
ReGnUM Public Relations
EoN Public Relations
524
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Posted - 2013.09.19 14:38:00 -
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Not gonna lie those 60 bombs look nice
I just surprised you go so negative in PC |
Thumb Green
Novashift
392
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Posted - 2013.09.19 14:49:00 -
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Congrats, you just ratted yourself out as a cheater. |
Jake Diesel
BIG BAD W0LVES
24
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Posted - 2013.09.19 14:57:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Two dominations, back to back: Round One: Stat SheetScoreboardRound Two: Stat SheetScoreboardSo I decided to spec into Forge Guns about two weeks ago and lo and behold the results. I've had better records with an AR (63-0) and back-in-the-day OP TAC AR (72-0), but for being relatively new to the FG scene I was surprised just how effective they are. (Note: Wouldn't have been possible without my beastly logibro ONE-EYE GOON)
Try those numbers again without your personal bodyguard/medic and see what numbers you get. No nanohives and no medic, those numbers will drop significantly. Because not even a mouse can OHK every moving target. |
CuuCH Crusher
Forge Gun Mafia
231
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Posted - 2013.09.19 15:01:00 -
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Video or it didn't happen. Why should we trust that your weren't just boosting the whole match. I'm a dedicated forge gunner and I know for a fact that even if you tower forge snipe, a regular sniper can and will shut you down. So that 60-0 is probably cheating. |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
757
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Posted - 2013.09.19 15:09:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Two dominations, back to back: Round One: Stat SheetScoreboardRound Two: Stat SheetScoreboardSo I decided to spec into Forge Guns about two weeks ago and lo and behold the results. I've had better records with an AR (63-0) and back-in-the-day OP TAC AR (72-0), but for being relatively new to the FG scene I was surprised just how effective they are. (Note: Wouldn't have been possible without my beastly logibro ONE-EYE GOON) Not all of us use a mouse on a console.
Show us your results using a DS3. |
KatanaPT
Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance
307
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Posted - 2013.09.19 15:10:00 -
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Nice crosshair...
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Funkmaster Whale
Daedali Inc.
628
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Posted - 2013.09.19 15:10:00 -
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ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:Not gonna lie those 60 bombs look nice I just surprised you go so negative in PC Regnum you'll never give up the trolling, eh? I don't ever remember going negative in a PC so clearly you're just talking out your ass like you oh so love to do. I'd like to go 1v1 against you if you think I'm so bad. Unfortunately it wouldn't mean anything in a team-based game like this. Alas, you have the better team, I'll admit, and I have no team. When the day comes when we can clone ourselves, a 16v16 Funkmaster Clone Army vs Regnum Clone Army would be pretty cool. Until then I guess
As far as the crosshair goes, it's definitely unfair but so is life. It's hardly "cheating" considering I'm not breaking any game mechanics. You would have the same effect if you put a dot with a sharpie on the middle of your monitor/TV. Call it what you will, Forge Guns are still ridiculous and this was primarily anti-infantry. |
Funkmaster Whale
Daedali Inc.
628
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Posted - 2013.09.19 15:11:00 -
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Jake Diesel wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Two dominations, back to back: Round One: Stat SheetScoreboardRound Two: Stat SheetScoreboardSo I decided to spec into Forge Guns about two weeks ago and lo and behold the results. I've had better records with an AR (63-0) and back-in-the-day OP TAC AR (72-0), but for being relatively new to the FG scene I was surprised just how effective they are. (Note: Wouldn't have been possible without my beastly logibro ONE-EYE GOON) Try those numbers again without your personal bodyguard/medic and see what numbers you get. No nanohives and no medic, those numbers will drop significantly. Because not even a mouse can OHK every moving target. I have a Logi fit that I regularly use to stock myself prior to setting up with a FG. Granted, it delays me about ~2 minutes in getting set up but I can certainly deal without a Logi. Having one just saves me time is all. |
Funkmaster Whale
Daedali Inc.
628
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Posted - 2013.09.19 15:16:00 -
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I'm enjoying all the "cheater!" accusations. I get them regularly in hatemails so I'm used to it. Regardless, this is a game where the goal is for you to die and for me to live, and I'll use every advantage I can get while you wallow in tears complaining it's not fair. The point of this discussion was this: Forge guns are too effective vs infantry. |
Inyanga
Strong-Arm
21
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Posted - 2013.09.19 15:24:00 -
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Any skill or credibility you had with your argument flew out the window. I move for a lock to this thread. A troll thread, obviously cheating, and no one who truly Forges ever gets those scores, unless it's an Academy Domination, and the cranberries just stood around looking at the flowers and friends. |
Funkmaster Whale
Daedali Inc.
628
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Posted - 2013.09.19 15:27:00 -
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Also, for anyone that's curious the monitor is an Asus VG248QE 24" 144hz monitor. It has a built-in custom crosshair feature that lets you paste any custom crosshair onto the screen. It's a competitive gaming monitor that I used back in the day playing competetive Counter-Strike. I played for money in a much faster-paced game hence why DUST feels like easy-mode for me. I just enjoy the RPG mechanics cause I love stat tracking and character building in games.
Yes I'm using Mouse and Keyboard. No I won't use a DS3 because DS3 sucks for FPS games. Blame CCP for allowing KB/M or petition them to remove it, at which point I'll be gone and you guys can breathe a sigh of relief that the "cheater" is gone. |
Funkmaster Whale
Daedali Inc.
629
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Posted - 2013.09.19 15:30:00 -
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Inyanga wrote:Any skill or credibility you had with your argument flew out the window. I move for a lock to this thread. A troll thread, obviously cheating, and no one who truly Forges ever gets those scores, unless it's an Academy Domination, and the cranberries just stood around looking at the flowers and friends. Tell me now, what is a "true" forge? Someone who runs around on the ground? I can post similar scores using an AR if you think I'm cheating. This wasn't academy. It was a regular Domination that I played in a 2-man squad. My Logibros dropped nanohives for me on some high-ground and I spent the match blasting people left and right with no remorse. Simple formula, really.
Forge splash can 2 shot most suits. That is what is OP, not KB/M or custom crosshairs or what have you. People don't like getting their weapon called OP when someone finds a way to make it way too effective. The fact that I can sit 200m away and two shot suits in <4 seconds is pretty broke. That and I can kill pretty much anything in range... |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
949
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Posted - 2013.09.19 15:30:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote: I have a Logi fit that I regularly use to stock myself prior to setting up with a FG. Granted, it delays me about ~2 minutes in getting set up but I can certainly deal without a Logi. Having one just saves me time is all.
That delay often proves fatal if the other team has anyone who understands that battles are fought from the heights down, not from the ground up.
If one assumes that it requires two to function at its peak, or 20 million SP, etc. Then it might not seem as powerful.
That said, I support cutting the splash radius in half, or maybe only 40%, and splash damage to Chromo levels, if not just a little lower.
Ishukone assault FG with prof 5 and two damage mods does 381 splash damage over a 6m diameter. That is crazy. |
Funkmaster Whale
Daedali Inc.
629
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Posted - 2013.09.19 15:35:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote: I have a Logi fit that I regularly use to stock myself prior to setting up with a FG. Granted, it delays me about ~2 minutes in getting set up but I can certainly deal without a Logi. Having one just saves me time is all.
That delay often proves fatal if the other team has anyone who understands that battles are fought from the heights down, not from the ground up. If one assumes that it requires two to function at its peak, or 20 million SP, etc. Then it might not seem as powerful. That said, I support cutting the splash radius in half, or maybe only 40%, and splash damage to Chromo levels, if not just a little lower. Ishukone assault FG with prof 5 and two damage mods does 381 splash damage over a 6m diameter. That is crazy. Thank you for the reasonable response. You're right that time is crucial, but this was a pub match. Any sort of PC match I would either (a) be playing my assault suit or (b) most certainly have a Logi if I was FGing. Granted, I've never played an FG in PC. Like I said, specced into it two weeks ago (this was with Prof 2 and 1x 10% mod). |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
757
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Posted - 2013.09.19 15:35:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:I'm enjoying all the "cheater!" accusations. I get them regularly in hatemails so I'm used to it. Regardless, this is a game where the goal is for you to die and for me to live, and I'll use every advantage I can get while you wallow in tears complaining it's not fair. The point of this discussion was this: Forge guns are too effective vs infantry. You don't understand anything about anything and should play BF4 on PC. |
Son Down
SamsClub
79
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Posted - 2013.09.19 15:37:00 -
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I like this guy, lol. Start calling him "Truth Sauce". |
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Funkmaster Whale
Daedali Inc.
629
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Posted - 2013.09.19 15:37:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:I'm enjoying all the "cheater!" accusations. I get them regularly in hatemails so I'm used to it. Regardless, this is a game where the goal is for you to die and for me to live, and I'll use every advantage I can get while you wallow in tears complaining it's not fair. The point of this discussion was this: Forge guns are too effective vs infantry. You don't understand anything about anything and should play BF4 on PC. I most certainly will. Will you join me? :] |
Son Down
SamsClub
79
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Posted - 2013.09.19 15:41:00 -
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In all honesty, guys like this should be on CCP's payroll. SKILLED players balancing the game and game mechanics. Not, one day here, one day gone COD halfwits, with their parent's credit card. |
Fargen Icehole
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
122
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Posted - 2013.09.19 15:49:00 -
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Out of curiosity, Which map/location did you do that from? I'm assuming it was primarily from a tower or some other elevated building. (I need to use that spot )
The only time I can put up any FG scores even REMOTELY close to that, is if I just troll and camp a high roof top or tower. |
Funkmaster Whale
Daedali Inc.
629
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Posted - 2013.09.19 15:51:00 -
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Son Down wrote:In all honesty, guys like this should be on CCP's payroll. SKILLED players balancing the game and game mechanics. Not, one day here, one day gone COD halfwits, with their parent's credit card. Appreciate that, but I don't need to get paid to tell CCP that splash damage is too ridiculous. To me, I quickly realized the FG is the Golden Gun of DUST. Put yourself in the right place and you can wreak total havoc on an enemy team with little threat.
And I was getting sniped at the entire time in those matches. 2x Complex Shield Regulators and Repping nanohives allows me to stay alive almost indefinitely unless someone busts out a Thale's and manages to get headshots back to back. |
Funkmaster Whale
Daedali Inc.
629
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Posted - 2013.09.19 15:53:00 -
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Fargen Icehole wrote:Out of curiosity, Which map/location did you do that from? I'm assuming it was primarily from a tower or some other elevated building. (I need to use that spot ) The only time I can put up any FG scores even REMOTELY close to that, is if I just troll and camp a high roof top or tower. The first round was on Manus Peak with a tabletop installation. I was on the tabletop, so not all that high.
The second round was Line Harvest on the Southwestern most tower (the side that overlooks Alpha and Charlie on skirmish). |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1236
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Posted - 2013.09.19 16:00:00 -
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IB4 Lock |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
757
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Posted - 2013.09.19 16:02:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Also, for anyone that's curious the monitor is an Asus VG248QE 24" 144hz monitor. It has a built-in custom crosshair feature that lets you paste any custom crosshair onto the screen. It's a competitive gaming monitor that I used back in the day playing competetive Counter-Strike. I played for money in a much faster-paced game hence why DUST feels like easy-mode for me. I just enjoy the RPG mechanics cause I love stat tracking and character building in games.
Yes I'm using Mouse and Keyboard. No I won't use a DS3 because DS3 sucks for FPS games. Blame CCP for allowing KB/M or petition them to remove it, at which point I'll be gone and you guys can breathe a sigh of relief that the "cheater" is gone. Was that monitor made back in the day? Because when Counterstrike was still kinda new, nobody had a flat screen and everybody had a CRT monitor. |
Green Living
0uter.Heaven
865
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Posted - 2013.09.19 16:03:00 -
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NERF FUNK |
Funkmaster Whale
Daedali Inc.
629
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Posted - 2013.09.19 16:05:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Also, for anyone that's curious the monitor is an Asus VG248QE 24" 144hz monitor. It has a built-in custom crosshair feature that lets you paste any custom crosshair onto the screen. It's a competitive gaming monitor that I used back in the day playing competetive Counter-Strike. I played for money in a much faster-paced game hence why DUST feels like easy-mode for me. I just enjoy the RPG mechanics cause I love stat tracking and character building in games.
Yes I'm using Mouse and Keyboard. No I won't use a DS3 because DS3 sucks for FPS games. Blame CCP for allowing KB/M or petition them to remove it, at which point I'll be gone and you guys can breathe a sigh of relief that the "cheater" is gone. Was that monitor made back in the day? Because when Counterstrike was still kinda new, nobody had a flat screen and everybody had a CRT monitor. Yes I was still using it in CS:S comps. And you're right, I used CRT back in 1.6 days. |
Son Down
SamsClub
80
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Posted - 2013.09.19 16:24:00 -
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If you get paid to play video games, it pretty much means you have never, are currently not, and will never see female genitalia during your natural born life. |
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