Cause only scrubs will tell you there is hardly a difference and only scrubs will tell you that it isnt over assiting, the damn weapon sways right to target, If you cant see it then your aim clearly is trash and you must jerk your reticle all over the place to not see it.

Ged gud scrubs dust wont be around long enough to get you better prepared for more skilled games.

Then again just another step in the direction of all CCP PVE games. Laughably ez mode, no thinking involved and let the computer do all the work. Man those EVE PVE PROs (lol) must be dying to try out the new turned based mode coming soon.

I think everyone's overreacting. The aim assist will probably get dialed back a bit in a patch.

I completely agree. I've played a lot of shooters with some form of aim assist, but this is pathetic.

I completely agree. I've played a lot of shooters with some form of aim assist, but this is pathetic. I tested it out briefly after several of my fellow corp members said how OP it was, and I was amazed at how good it made hipfire. Downed a heavy's shield from about twenty meters with it and wasn't even ADS'ing. I really hope they get rid of this **** so people who actually bother to aim can be rewarded.


Aim Assist: Always Off.

So this is some elite thing where every "pro" player gets on folks who use aim assist? If you that good you will to still kill em. It shouldn't even be a problem for you.

Cause only scrubs will tell you there is hardly a difference and only scrubs will tell you that it isnt over assiting, the damn weapon sways right to target, If you cant see it then your aim clearly is trash and you must jerk your reticle all over the place to not see it.

Ged gud scrubs dust wont be around long enough to get you better prepared for more skilled games.

Then again just another step in the direction of all CCP PVE games. Laughably ez mode, no thinking involved and let the computer do all the work. Man those EVE PVE PROs (lol) must be dying to try out the new turned based mode coming soon.

it needs to be removed.. its clear CCP doesn't know how to do without it being a joke or OP. its best to stay removed.

Sounds like a scrub who needs the game to do the work for you and give you your reward. I blame you and all players like you for the dumbing down of video games to the sheer stupid levels that exist today. Its why PVP in almost every game has turned to crap because the moment 90% of the people realize they are **** and have no coordination of understanding of games they cry like inept children to the devs to make it easier so they can feel the joy of having succeed but its an empty shallow victory when someone hands it to you. Used to be you had to work at games, they took time to get better at and master. That was a source of enjoyment in itself, now causal carebear scrubs like you insist that gaming cater to you because you're voice matters equal to mine (it doesn't; scrubs ought to be treated like 2nd class citizens and jesters for the amusement of the leet).

Nothing wrong with a little assistance but this playerbase has always been trash personified in terms of gaming skill, i mean what can we expect from a base whose claim to PVP is tracking computers and autopiliot tab targeting disguised as a skillful PVP encounter, (yea EVE PVPers are trash rejects who cant hack it in real PVP games). So i understand why you feel the game owes you a level playing field in terms of mechanics, the irony of this isnt lost on me about the HTFU crowd asking for all sorts of gimmicks and tricks for them to be able to compete.

Gaming industry and CCP has ruined you into believing you had a talent for gaming when really you were just a monkey they need to stare at a screen and occupy a space in a virtual setting.

all i can say is people with aim assist have no gun skill.

fully agree with you :( sad day for dust

Cause only scrubs will tell you there is hardly a difference and only scrubs will tell you that it isnt over assiting, the damn weapon sways right to target, If you cant see it then your aim clearly is trash and you must jerk your reticle all over the place to not see it.

Ged gud scrubs dust wont be around long enough to get you better prepared for more skilled games.

Then again just another step in the direction of all CCP PVE games. Laughably ez mode, no thinking involved and let the computer do all the work. Man those EVE PVE PROs (lol) must be dying to try out the new turned based mode coming soon.

Let them have their QQ sessions. They will find a new way to torment us 'scrubs' back into the dirt.
Beast players always have been, and always will be beast players.
The game is now fun for more than just the 'Elite' and that is that.

We're like spoiled women...damned if you do, damned if you don't. We ***** and moan that the aiming was ****** and now asks CCP to remove the assist and put it back to what we just had so we can qq all over again how bad the aiming system is.

remove Kbm and then we can talk

Sounds like a scrub who needs the game to do the work for you and give you your reward. I blame you and all players like you for the dumbing down of video games to the sheer stupid levels that exist today. Its why PVP in almost every game has turned to crap because the moment 90% of the people realize they are **** and have no coordination of understanding of games they cry like inept children to the devs to make it easier so they can feel the joy of having succeed but its an empty shallow victory when someone hands it to you. Used to be you had to work at games, they took time to get better at and master. That was a source of enjoyment in itself, now causal carebear scrubs like you insist that gaming cater to you because you're voice matters equal to mine (it doesn't; scrubs ought to be treated like 2nd class citizens and jesters for the amusement of the leet).

Nothing wrong with a little assistance but this playerbase has always been trash personified in terms of gaming skill, i mean what can we expect from a base whose claim to PVP is tracking computers and autopiliot tab targeting disguised as a skillful PVP encounter, (yea EVE PVPers are trash rejects who cant hack it in real PVP games). So i understand why you feel the game owes you a level playing field in terms of mechanics, the irony of this isnt lost on me about the HTFU crowd asking for all sorts of gimmicks and tricks for them to be able to compete.

Gaming industry and CCP has ruined you into believing you had a talent for gaming when really you were just a monkey they need to stare at a screen and occupy a space in a virtual setting.

Cause only scrubs will tell you there is hardly a difference and only scrubs will tell you that it isnt over assiting, the damn weapon sways right to target, If you cant see it then your aim clearly is trash and you must jerk your reticle all over the place to not see it.

Ged gud scrubs dust wont be around long enough to get you better prepared for more skilled games.

Then again just another step in the direction of all CCP PVE games. Laughably ez mode, no thinking involved and let the computer do all the work. Man those EVE PVE PROs (lol) must be dying to try out the new turned based mode coming soon.

This is probably all coming from the people who would move stupidly fast and dance around to where even if your hitting them it doesnt register. Did you think that would last forever? Movement like that just made the game stupid. Who does that in a battle anyways. All they where doing was out doing the hit detection. Now that sounds more like a scrub to me. But then again maybe Im wrong. Who cares. Play the game or dont. The choice is yours.

But if its unnoticeable to noobs then mabey it's because good players can aim anyway

Maybe not, but we do have guns...biyatch

Sounds like a scrub who needs the game to do the work for you and give you your reward. I blame you and all players like you for the dumbing down of video games to the sheer stupid levels that exist today. Its why PVP in almost every game has turned to crap because the moment 90% of the people realize they are **** and have no coordination of understanding of games they cry like inept children to the devs to make it easier so they can feel the joy of having succeed but its an empty shallow victory when someone hands it to you. Used to be you had to work at games, they took time to get better at and master. That was a source of enjoyment in itself, now causal carebear scrubs like you insist that gaming cater to you because you're voice matters equal to mine (it doesn't; scrubs ought to be treated like 2nd class citizens and jesters for the amusement of the leet).

Nothing wrong with a little assistance but this playerbase has always been trash personified in terms of gaming skill, i mean what can we expect from a base whose claim to PVP is tracking computers and autopiliot tab targeting disguised as a skillful PVP encounter, (yea EVE PVPers are trash rejects who cant hack it in real PVP games). So i understand why you feel the game owes you a level playing field in terms of mechanics, the irony of this isnt lost on me about the HTFU crowd asking for all sorts of gimmicks and tricks for them to be able to compete.

Gaming industry and CCP has ruined you into believing you had a talent for gaming when really you were just a monkey they need to stare at a screen and occupy a space in a virtual setting.

Another QQing thread about something that every player can use for free being OP. I always used Aim Assist before the 1.4 update but because of these threads I decided to change it up and see what it's all about...It wasn't that much of a difference.

Listen.

You get more freedom with AA off but you are prone to mess up your aim if you slack. You get more assistance with AA, obviously, but you lack the freedom that others who don't use it, have. With AA it's easier to spray into someone's body. With AA off it's easier to get head shots on enemies.

There are pros and cons to both styles of play, get over it.

All of this super elitism makes most of you guys look weak-sauce since most of those who use AA still can get outgun by a BETTER PLAYER. Cry all you want...AA is automatically on for all players when they first activate a character in Dust :I and you can still pub stomp if you have the skill and the squad to do so.

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tl;dr:

harden da fugg up

Sounds like a scrub who needs the game to do the work for you and give you your reward. I blame you and all players like you for the dumbing down of video games to the sheer stupid levels that exist today. Its why PVP in almost every game has turned to crap because the moment 90% of the people realize they are **** and have no coordination of understanding of games they cry like inept children to the devs to make it easier so they can feel the joy of having succeed but its an empty shallow victory when someone hands it to you. Used to be you had to work at games, they took time to get better at and master. That was a source of enjoyment in itself, now causal carebear scrubs like you insist that gaming cater to you because you're voice matters equal to mine (it doesn't; scrubs ought to be treated like 2nd class citizens and jesters for the amusement of the leet).

Nothing wrong with a little assistance but this playerbase has always been trash personified in terms of gaming skill, i mean what can we expect from a base whose claim to PVP is tracking computers and autopiliot tab targeting disguised as a skillful PVP encounter, (yea EVE PVPers are trash rejects who cant hack it in real PVP games). So i understand why you feel the game owes you a level playing field in terms of mechanics, the irony of this isnt lost on me about the HTFU crowd asking for all sorts of gimmicks and tricks for them to be able to compete.

Gaming industry and CCP has ruined you into believing you had a talent for gaming when really you were just a monkey they need to stare at a screen and occupy a space in a virtual setting.

Aim assist have been present in console FPS's for the last 12 years or so.. The first major user? Halo 2001. Why? Because it's harder to aim with your thumb than your whole ******* arm. If you want to get rid of the aim assist then get rid of the mouse and we have a deal. Honestly the idea of everyone playing with the DS3 with no aim assist is funny as ****. Gun battles will last 5 minutes plus if mano e mano.

Cause only scrubs will tell you there is hardly a difference and only scrubs will tell you that it isnt over assiting, the damn weapon sways right to target, If you cant see it then your aim clearly is trash and you must jerk your reticle all over the place to not see it.

Ged gud scrubs dust wont be around long enough to get you better prepared for more skilled games.

Then again just another step in the direction of all CCP PVE games. Laughably ez mode, no thinking involved and let the computer do all the work. Man those EVE PVE PROs (lol) must be dying to try out the new turned based mode coming soon.

The lack of aim assist wasn't the only problem with aiming in 1.3.

CCP just took the lazy route and said "**** it, just give everyone aimbot!"

That's a great speech and all, and I'm gonna let you finish, but unless you and your 10% elitist buddies are going to pay the subscription fees for the 90% of us "noobs" then you have no ******* clue how to run a gaming company.

Because yeah that's what me and my 90% of more casual buddies want to play, a game where we get decimated repeatedly by people because we can't play 40+ hours a week due to real life. I don't want this game to become farmville, but I'm going to throw my money at a game I find fun and entertaining and refreshing, not a grind where if I practice and practice I might someday end up being good enough. And guess what, me and my 90% of casual buddies make far more than you and your 10% of elitist buddies, and CCP knows that...

EVE is known as one of the hardest MMO's out there, and it has aim assist.

Benefits everyone but Scouts.

1v1s are now based on eHP, not strafing or aim.

Also, AA was disabled in 1.3.

I completely agree. I've played a lot of shooters with some form of aim assist, but this is pathetic. I tested it out briefly after several of my fellow corp members said how OP it was, and I was amazed at how good it made hipfire. Downed a heavy's shield from about twenty meters with it and wasn't even ADS'ing. I really hope they get rid of this **** so people who actually bother to aim can be rewarded.


Aim Assist: Always Off.

Benefits everyone but Scouts.

1v1s are now based on eHP, not strafing or aim.

Also, AA was disabled in 1.3.

This is probably all coming from the people who would move stupidly fast and dance around to where even if your hitting them it doesnt register. Did you think that would last forever? Movement like that just made the game stupid. Who does that in a battle anyways. All they where doing was out doing the hit detection. Now that sounds more like a scrub to me. But then again maybe Im wrong. Who cares. Play the game or dont. The choice is yours.

I like it

Wow this thread has so many failposters its not even funny. Loving all the ppl coming out in support of their new crutch. Sorry aim assist is far more potent then where it was in chromosome. I dare say chromosome aiming was nearly there but with Uprising being such crap of course people love the new aim assist. But anyone who isnt a dense clueless hack and has any experience in other games knows that the degree to which this aim assist functions is way over the top and only people who could enjoy this objectively are awful players, i get its better then what was in uprising but this removes any actual need for aiming skill its laughable.

But hey its not like it matters the only ones left in this garbage game is bad players who need every last bit of help because well they are just that bad, this thread and the players none of whom have ever been of importance who all support it.

Sounds like a scrub who needs the game to do the work for you and give you your reward. I blame you and all players like you for the dumbing down of video games to the sheer stupid levels that exist today. Its why PVP in almost every game has turned to crap because the moment 90% of the people realize they are **** and have no coordination of understanding of games they cry like inept children to the devs to make it easier so they can feel the joy of having succeed but its an empty shallow victory when someone hands it to you. Used to be you had to work at games, they took time to get better at and master. That was a source of enjoyment in itself, now causal carebear scrubs like you insist that gaming cater to you because you're voice matters equal to mine (it doesn't; scrubs ought to be treated like 2nd class citizens and jesters for the amusement of the leet).

Nothing wrong with a little assistance but this playerbase has always been trash personified in terms of gaming skill, i mean what can we expect from a base whose claim to PVP is tracking computers and autopiliot tab targeting disguised as a skillful PVP encounter, (yea EVE PVPers are trash rejects who cant hack it in real PVP games). So i understand why you feel the game owes you a level playing field in terms of mechanics, the irony of this isnt lost on me about the HTFU crowd asking for all sorts of gimmicks and tricks for them to be able to compete.

Gaming industry and CCP has ruined you into believing you had a talent for gaming when really you were just a monkey they need to stare at a screen and occupy a space in a virtual setting.

It's an rpg . It's about ehp, fitting, dps

I'm a Laser Rifle Srub!
LRS FTW!

Wow this thread has so many failposters its not even funny. Loving all the ppl coming out in support of their new crutch.

It's an rpg . It's about ehp, fitting, dps

Epitome of a ******* hipster ^^^

But it's bad on the people who try to play any role witch requires to get anywhere near the scrubs who claim that they are good now. Hell, it's now ******* impossible to get kills with this aimbot on with my Scout suits.....

Cause only scrubs will tell you there is hardly a difference and only scrubs will tell you that it isnt over assiting, the damn weapon sways right to target, If you cant see it then your aim clearly is trash and you must jerk your reticle all over the place to not see it.

Ged gud scrubs dust wont be around long enough to get you better prepared for more skilled games.

Then again just another step in the direction of all CCP PVE games. Laughably ez mode, no thinking involved and let the computer do all the work. Man those EVE PVE PROs (lol) must be dying to try out the new turned based mode coming soon.

Sorry that moniker belongs to EVEtards they are very much the hipsters of gaming. But i do enjoy reading the responses of all of dust trashiest players coming to tell me that the aim assist is fine as is.

true story tho.....dust isnt an rpg

Cause only scrubs will tell you there is hardly a difference and only scrubs will tell you that it isnt over assiting, the damn weapon sways right to target, If you cant see it then your aim clearly is trash and you must jerk your reticle all over the place to not see it.

Ged gud scrubs dust wont be around long enough to get you better prepared for more skilled games.

Then again just another step in the direction of all CCP PVE games. Laughably ez mode, no thinking involved and let the computer do all the work. Man those EVE PVE PROs (lol) must be dying to try out the new turned based mode coming soon.

That's a great speech and all, and I'm gonna let you finish, but unless you and your 10% elitist buddies are going to pay the subscription fees for the 90% of us "noobs" then you have no ******* clue how to run a gaming company.

Because yeah that's what me and my 90% of more casual buddies want to play, a game where we get decimated repeatedly by people because we can't play 40+ hours a week due to real life. I don't want this game to become farmville, but I'm going to throw my money at a game I find fun and entertaining and refreshing, not a grind where if I practice and practice I might someday end up being good enough. And guess what, me and my 90% of casual buddies make far more than you and your 10% of elitist buddies, and CCP knows that...

EVE is known as one of the hardest MMO's out there, and it has aim assist.

Wow this thread has so many failposters its not even funny. Loving all the ppl coming out in support of their new crutch. Sorry aim assist is far more potent then where it was in chromosome. I dare say chromosome aiming was nearly there but with Uprising being such crap of course people love the new aim assist. But anyone who isnt a dense clueless hack and has any experience in other games knows that the degree to which this aim assist functions is way over the top and only people who could enjoy this objectively are awful players, i get its better then what was in uprising but this removes any actual need for aiming skill its laughable.

But hey its not like it matters the only ones left in this garbage game is bad players who need every last bit of help because well they are just that bad, this thread and the players none of whom have ever been of importance who all support it.

http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/fine-tuning-aiming-and-controls/

Ever thought it's just the shots registering more?

The assists in question are magnetism and adhesion. Magnetism works by helping you maintain your aim as you strafe a target. Adhesion adjusts your rotation when an enemy is targeted to help you stay on target.

Just putting a quote from this link here:


These two things are our aim assist.

Magnetism = when you strafe, the game will auto-turn if your crosshairs are over an enemy to keep the enemy in your sights.
Adhesion = when enemy moves away from your crosshairs, they follow the enemy.

Magnetism is often used to describe a system where the crosshairs will move towards a nearby enemy, and this usually happens most when either the player or the enemy (or both) are moving. It's basically the same system, but it activates when the enemy is NEAR where you're aiming, not just when you have them lined up precisely.

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After my first experience with the game's aim assist behaving a LOT like an aimbot for the 5 minutes it took to give up and turn it off, I didn't bother doing proper testing until today. In that first encounter with it, I was lining up a relatively long range (for a Scrambler Rifle) headshot on a Heavy, and an enemy Scout ran out and jumped BEHIND him as I was releasing the trigger. I landed a mid-air headshot on the Scout about 2m to the left and more than 1m above where I had my aim centred. I wouldn't have found this too horrible (still a bit off, but bearable) if the Scout had actually run in front of the Heavy, or if my aim had been a litle off at the time so I might have been dragged onto the new target. But even then, getting a headshot on a target while he was jumping seemed more than a little ridiculous.

After geting sniped, I found another enemy near my next spawn point. I lined up then let go of the right stick while holding the fire button with my AR (I'd forgotten to restock my Scrambler fitting), and it chased an enemy around for a while before he died, with literally no aiming input from me.

I also had several encounters where I was trying to aim for myself and the aim assist was also trying to aim for me, and it threw my aim too far in the direction I was turning, or it decided to aim at one enemy while I was trying to line up on another and I got "stuck" firing between the two.

I got an inordinate number of headshots, and they were frequently on enemies I hadn't been aiming high on, but where the aim assist seemed like it was tracking my shots up towards the target's head for me.

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In today's proper testing, I haven't had anything remotely as extreme as that, and as far as I can tell, you need to have your sights VERY close to the target before the aim assist will do anything, and even then it doesn't give chase on a fast-moving target.

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I will empahsise that most people I've seen who have spoken about how OP the aim assist is while speaking as users of it have been Laser Rifle users, and I haven't tested that weapon myself. It's possible the majority of problems are occuring on LRs. It's also possible there's an intermittent issue with the aim assist going into supercharged mode. Given CCP's record with aim assist in the past, I'm inclined to think that inconsistent results are to be expected at this point.

Lolaimbot....whatever, at least it's balanced. Everyone's aim assist is the same so everyone got an equal buff which means that you're better than John Doe last week, you will still be better than John Doe this week.

Let them have their QQ sessions. They will find a new way to torment us 'scrubs' back into the dirt.
Beast players always have been, and always will be beast players.
The game is now fun for more than just the 'Elite' and that is that.

wait until m/kb get fix youll change ur mind very fast

Cause only scrubs will tell you there is hardly a difference and only scrubs will tell you that it isnt over assiting, the damn weapon sways right to target, If you cant see it then your aim clearly is trash and you must jerk your reticle all over the place to not see it.

Ged gud scrubs dust wont be around long enough to get you better prepared for more skilled games.

Then again just another step in the direction of all CCP PVE games. Laughably ez mode, no thinking involved and let the computer do all the work. Man those EVE PVE PROs (lol) must be dying to try out the new turned based mode coming soon.

I actually like the way you had to aim on your own before cause that was part of the grind for me now everyones dropping like flies just with a Militia AR you actually had to try and put a fitting together and work your way up the skill Tree to be a decent player now even new players are getting in double digits or players just running with Militia gear. (Thats just my opinion)

No QQ'ing here.

Sounds like a scrub who needs the game to do the work for you and give you your reward. I blame you and all players like you for the dumbing down of video games to the sheer stupid levels that exist today. Its why PVP in almost every game has turned to crap because the moment 90% of the people realize they are **** and have no coordination of understanding of games they cry like inept children to the devs to make it easier so they can feel the joy of having succeed but its an empty shallow victory when someone hands it to you. Used to be you had to work at games, they took time to get better at and master. That was a source of enjoyment in itself, now causal carebear scrubs like you insist that gaming cater to you because you're voice matters equal to mine (it doesn't; scrubs ought to be treated like 2nd class citizens and jesters for the amusement of the leet).

Nothing wrong with a little assistance but this playerbase has always been trash personified in terms of gaming skill, i mean what can we expect from a base whose claim to PVP is tracking computers and autopiliot tab targeting disguised as a skillful PVP encounter, (yea EVE PVPers are trash rejects who cant hack it in real PVP games). So i understand why you feel the game owes you a level playing field in terms of mechanics, the irony of this isnt lost on me about the HTFU crowd asking for all sorts of gimmicks and tricks for them to be able to compete.

Gaming industry and CCP has ruined you into believing you had a talent for gaming when really you were just a monkey they need to stare at a screen and occupy a space in a virtual setting.

I'm yet to get a decent look at aim assist to give an informed opinion, but last night after DT Duvolles were the new Mass Driver. My Complex Shield Extenders were just tissue paper with the new level of accuracy these weapons have with the new aim assist. I'll test my Scrambler properly tonight to give myself a good look at it, but ARs were not that effective before DT. And no damage mods could have the impact I faced.

Let them have their QQ sessions. They will find a new way to torment us 'scrubs' back into the dirt.
Beast players always have been, and always will be beast players.
The game is now fun for more than just the 'Elite' and that is that.

wait until m/kb get fix youll change ur mind very fast

Yea that sounds about right

So in Dust character progression or say improving weapons isnt achieved by earning and spending SP then?

what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no likes, and may God have mercy on your soul...

Do you even play? 0 kills, 0.0 kdr, 0.64 w/l

I haven't had a chance to try 1.4 yet so this comment has nothing to say regarding whether its bad, good, or op. I do have to comment about the original poster and just wanted to point out logic would dispute your assertion that only those who can't aim are the ones saying its not even noticeable. In fact it would be quite the opposite if you really are horrible at aiming you will notice the difference it would be the people who are good at aiming that would not notice the assist since their aim is already on the target. That is all I wanted to add to the conversation just my observation of your idiocy.

MMO aspects taken from eve are what you speak of. These things also do not make an rpg. Mag let you level up. Mag isnt an rpg. Leveling up does not equal rpg.

No. Mmo means massive multiplayer. (Dust may claim this but personally I don't think it is. It still comes down to 16v16 )

Mag had elements of an rpg system (any levelling system does ). Dust has taken the rpg idea/ system though. The fact is my suit or weapons get stronger by spending SP or can access better equipment at higher levels on a progressive skill tree.

Rpg is about character progression.

Aim assist have been present in console FPS's for the last 12 years or so.. The first major user? Halo 2001. Why? Because it's harder to aim with your thumb than your whole ******* arm. If you want to get rid of the aim assist then get rid of the mouse and we have a deal. Honestly the idea of everyone playing with the DS3 with no aim assist is funny as ****. Gun battles will last 5 minutes plus if mano e mano.

The aim assist makes the aiming the same as any other console shooter....

The reason consoles use aim assist is to make a controler match the accuraccy of a mouse. The fact that your defending the previously bad aim by saying "it takes skill!" is just sad. Controlers will ALWAYS have aim assist, you can turn yours off if you dont want it.

Wow...you are one angry little puppy aren't you Keyser?
Annoyed because you can't kerb stomp Noobs anymore...
Mad because CCP leveled out the playing field ever so slightly..
I like how many times you used the word SCRUB in your posts on
here because it perfectly describes you and your attitude...
Hopefully we'll run into each other out there and you can show
me how "skilled" you are *sniggers*

Haven't seen Keyser in this game in months. So you or anyone will not be running into him. CCP would benefit from managing the forums to allow posts from active players. The forum warriors really pollute the environment... should get an interview and write a book on relevance, self awareness, self esteem and the gamers who lack all three but can not reconcile such.

Cause only scrubs will tell you there is hardly a difference and only scrubs will tell you that it isnt over assiting, the damn weapon sways right to target, If you cant see it then your aim clearly is trash and you must jerk your reticle all over the place to not see it.

Ged gud scrubs dust wont be around long enough to get you better prepared for more skilled games.

Then again just another step in the direction of all CCP PVE games. Laughably ez mode, no thinking involved and let the computer do all the work. Man those EVE PVE PROs (lol) must be dying to try out the new turned based mode coming soon.

The mere assumption that everyone that wants to use their preferred peripheral on a gaming platform makes the pad useless is absurd...

The hardware race on PC's is getting expensive and the world is getting harder...

PC's with similar spec's to the PS4's aren't cheap compared to the supposed sticker on the PS4. Peripheral choice is purely the transition from low budget PC gaming boxes to the new generation console's.

CCP is with the curve on this as they are very in-tune with the computer gaming world, hence the console based DUST and the support for KB/M.

Most know this is coming and the pad users who is confident with their aim, welcome the new challenge of beating something hyped so much said to circumvent all their skill.

Two peripheral's in two different players hands mimicking their direct input and one beating out the other is what FPS's are about. And the learning curve starts...

People who log on and think because they have a pad they are at a disadvantage for playing games (even before KB/M) and there should be a computer helping you out. Are people that just got tired of going to the options menu and having to turn it to "easy" mode.

Afford a usb mouse,


Son if you cant afford a 5 dollar mouse....you probably shouldn't be playing video games.

High sensitivity apparently dampens the effect. I haven't dropped my sensitivity yet... can't wait for God mode this afternoon. lol

Stop playing video games you selfish tryhard. Not everybody plays games to be a worthless show off like you.