Were getting the entire table switched with everything "being built from the ground up" So will all our vehical and AV skills be refunded back to us? if its all being completly redone in most aspects id imagine those players who have SP invested into them would be allowed to reallocate them, because some tank weapons, hulls, and mods, and infantry AV means that are effective now may not be effective after the patch

Don't spec into things you know are broken/FoTM. That's a pretty basic concept for anyone with sense. If that's too hard for you I'd suggest Call of Duty: Repetitive Warfare. Instant Gratification Edition.

No. CCP wants you to live with the consequences of their actions.

Respecs would undermine that.

CCP has already stated numerous times that the last respec they did for uprising was the LAST one we were gonna get. That means stop wasting your time with petitions and threads because its not gonna happen. I agree it was very stupid of CCP to not wait until all the dropsuits/weapons were out to do the respec but who am i to say anything iv only spent $200 on this game.

Based on what I have seen it would NOT surprise me if they refund all skill points allotted to vehicles.

The lot of you should already know I am against most respecs but this is the scenario where I feel it's warranted for vehicle specific skills.

Team Kong will post soon enough just some things are beginning to muddle their work load including the melee bug.

Please stop posting respec threads.
I want to troll in peace without having to go through 101 useless threads that give the same flawed reasoning over and over again.


Sincerely,
A forum troll who wants to keep the forums clean from everything but trolling.


P.S
CCP Logibro, don't lock this thread or I will have a litter of kittens.
Literally.

And CCP remains silent.

-XOXO

this is the continuation of a post made a couple weeks ago...unfortunatly he was banned so he cant keep the thread alive.

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if i have missed you out please resign the petition when possible

-silver

I've realized that the logic of people who want respecs is that they just like to whine.

I've realized that the logic of people who want respecs is that they just like to whine.

Not even to mention that "CCP has already stated numerous times that the last respec they did for uprising was the LAST one we were gonna get" isn't even true. They said it's the last one we'll get by default for everyone, but if there is a substantial change to the skill tree then another will be offered optionally.

Now, whether Uprising 1.4 constitutes as substantial enough is up in the air. Personally I'm sort of against it at the moment because it looks like there are going to be a lot of changes coming very soon in the coming updates, so perhaps wait until that's all over and then offer an optional respec.

I've realized that the logic of people who want respecs is that they just like to whine.

Not even to mention that "CCP has already stated numerous times that the last respec they did for uprising was the LAST one we were gonna get" isn't even true. They said it's the last one we'll get by default for everyone, but if there is a substantial change to the skill tree then another will be offered optionally.

Now, whether Uprising 1.4 constitutes as substantial enough is up in the air. Personally I'm sort of against it at the moment because it looks like there are going to be a lot of changes coming very soon in the coming updates, so perhaps wait until that's all over and then offer an optional respec.

Why are people always bleeping that CCP isn't saying anything? Out of most of the games i've played, that have patches, CCP to be one of the most informative. You cry when they don't say anything for a couple of days... I wouldn't want say anything to you guys either.

Context, buddy. They're not upset that CCP hasn't been saying anything in general, they are upset that CCP hasn't been saying anything in regards to respecs which has been a highly controversial topic and their previous statements have been very ambiguous.

And i notice ppl who are against them are morons. I jus proved you guys wrong so hard.... and thats the best you can come up with it?

I am sorry that you skilled a ton of SP into the flaylock and now want that SP back.
Well I would love to get the hundreds of deaths due to the flaylock back but that doesn't seem likely does it.
So I laugh at all of you who skilled into that weapon and I am currently laughing at all of you who then transferred over to the MD.

THAT is why people don't deserve a respec. You do realize that you could just PLAY THE GAME and gain more SP right?

Do you honestly think this is the reason? I haven't spent a single point on flaylocks (or Cadari suits and ARs for that matter) and I'm still mostly in favor of this.

Then maybe you should actually take the time to skill into the correct things once in a while. I mean...how hard is it to skill into what you have been dying to get for 1 week, 2 weeks, sometimes a month?

I mean come on! Seriously people. If you made a mistake and skilled into something that is useless...who is to blame? Yourself! Take responsibility for your own actions and act like adults instead of a child. Its a game that is supposed to be played for a LONG TIME. Take the time to play the game and request something more meaningful.

Stop with the stupid gun nerfs and whining and actually have some fun. Request new game modes. Request new maps. This is truly what the game is lacking instead of another stupid respec.

TBH, IDGAF anymore about 90% of you.

IMHO, you'll ruin the game just because you want it to be the Sci-Fi CoD. You're not happy with Dust attempting to be different and unique, you want it to be a clone of an already oversaturated market.

I haven't played in several weeks, I'll log in on Tuesday to see if 1.4 is worth my time. Either way, carry on with your circlejerk, you seem to be enjoying it greatly.

We see CCP not doing anything and were like:

Not being silent

Then maybe you should actually take the time to skill into the correct things once in a while. I mean...how hard is it to skill into what you have been dying to get for 1 week, 2 weeks, sometimes a month?

I mean come on! Seriously people. If you made a mistake and skilled into something that is useless...who is to blame? Yourself! Take responsibility for your own actions and act like adults instead of a child. Its a game that is supposed to be played for a LONG TIME. Take the time to play the game and request something more meaningful.

Stop with the stupid gun nerfs and whining and actually have some fun. Request new game modes. Request new maps. This is truly what the game is lacking instead of another stupid respec.

Don't spec into things you know are broken/FoTM. That's a pretty basic concept for anyone with sense. If that's too hard for you I'd suggest Call of Duty: Repetitive Warfare. Instant Gratification Edition.

No. CCP wants you to live with the consequences of their actions.

Respecs would undermine that.

You are aware that a large amount of that list is fictitious, yes?
For example, note that you quoted Cat Merc as being against respecs. Somehow, his name is on there, despite being against it, as is a large number of other people's. A lot of names are double posted, and large numbers of alts are included.

You are aware that a large amount of that list is fictitious, yes?
For example, note that you quoted Cat Merc as being against respecs. Somehow, his name is on there, despite being against it, as is a large number of other people's. A lot of names are double posted, and large numbers of alts are included.

If you want a respec, then you should pay 60 dollars to them to help make this game better. I mean seriously people. You are playing a FREE game and I have NEVER heard so much whining in my entire life. Go ENJOY the game for once instead of complaining about this and that.

This game has been a big disappointment and I am positive that it is due to all of the people on these forums. It seems like they are always taking a step back to please the community when in fact they should be working on what matters. What matters in a video game is that there is always new content.

There has been new content added to the game, yet it still feels like it is in beta form. What brand new launch game has TDM, Skirmish, and a knock off dumb downed Skirmish mode?

Are you saying changing ppls classes and not leting them spec out of it does not matter? Cuz we cant enjoy the game if we dont have say in how we play. That would be like me telling you what to post on your reply to this thread and having no abliity to change it. Would you enjoy posting on the forums if i made you look like an idiot every time you said something? cuz thats how we feel on the battlefeild when our classes get changed

Do you honestly think this is the reason? I haven't spent a single point on flaylocks (or Cadari suits and ARs for that matter) and I'm still mostly in favor of this.

So? lol if you want to make assumptions we can assume nearly all of them arnt alts and alot of ppl are yet to sign. Assuming isent getting us anywere tho, not worth the debate. care to prove the OP wrong as well?

I am sorry that you skilled a ton of SP into the flaylock and now want that SP back.
Well I would love to get the hundreds of deaths due to the flaylock back but that doesn't seem likely does it.
So I laugh at all of you who skilled into that weapon and I am currently laughing at all of you who then transferred over to the MD.

THAT is why people don't deserve a respec. You do realize that you could just PLAY THE GAME and gain more SP right?

I agree that people who skill into things that are changed slightly for balance should not get respecs, but to assume that this is the only people that want one misses a large argument for them that I don't hear a lot about.

People that skilled into Heavies (like me), Scouts, and tanks have very few of the promised options, some missing tiers (tanks) and racial variants (in the Heavy's case there is only one). They have legitimate complaints because they can't choose what they want because it isn't there. I'm fine with my Amarr Sentinel; it's a great suit. However, I would like a respec in that area exclusively because I had one racial option, and if I wanted to play the game how I wanted I was stuck with that, and tankers have it even worse than I do.

Some will say that people like myself should just wait, but I don't think that telling people to wait for months to get basic content is fair, especially when other playstyles have all options available to them. When the racial variants come out I will skill into them if there is no respec, but I believe that if CCP gave those people a respec when the entirety of content is released it would be a sign of good faith, of saying that they care about those players and saying they're sorry that their playstyle was neglected in the area of content.

We can hardly assume they're not alts when the names are 'SILVERBACK 01, SILVERBACK 02, SILVERBACK 03' or 'Vethosis, Vesosis'.
The 'petition' is completely invalidated because of the sheer number of deliberate inaccuracies it contains. When you're posting every name that posts in your thread, even if they oppose it, and others who aren't even posting in your thread, you know you're desperate.
It's kind of sad really, being so desperate to be FotM again that you're dishonest with your 'petition'.
I don't necessarily disagree with respecs. I do disagree with people lying this much.

This is how you lose an argument. There have been good points brought up by both sides, so claiming one side just likes to whine is pretty indicative that you do not have anything to properly counter the arguments.

I agree that people who skill into things that are changed slightly for balance should not get respecs, but to assume that this is the only people that want one misses a large argument for them that I don't hear a lot about.

People that skilled into Heavies (like me), Scouts, and tanks have very few of the promised options, some missing tiers (tanks) and racial variants (in the Heavy's case there is only one). They have legitimate complaints because they can't choose what they want because it isn't there. I'm fine with my Amarr Sentinel; it's a great suit. However, I would like a respec in that area exclusively because I had one racial option, and if I wanted to play the game how I wanted I was stuck with that, and tankers have it even worse than I do.

Some will say that people like myself should just wait, but I don't think that telling people to wait for months to get basic content is fair, especially when other playstyles have all options available to them. When the racial variants come out I will skill into them if there is no respec, but I believe that if CCP gave those people a respec when the entirety of content is released it would be a sign of good faith, of saying that they care about those players and saying they're sorry that their playstyle was neglected in the area of content.

Then maybe you should actually take the time to skill into the correct things once in a while. I mean...how hard is it to skill into what you have been dying to get for 1 week, 2 weeks, sometimes a month?

I mean come on! Seriously people. If you made a mistake and skilled into something that is useless...who is to blame? Yourself! Take responsibility for your own actions and act like adults instead of a child. Its a game that is supposed to be played for a LONG TIME. Take the time to play the game and request something more meaningful.

Stop with the stupid gun nerfs and whining and actually have some fun. Request new game modes. Request new maps. This is truly what the game is lacking instead of another stupid respec.

Then stop playing the game if you don't like how they are managing it. I mean...it was FREE after all.

I cannot agree anymore with your post. But how do you expect to give some people respecs while not giving some to others? You would have people flaming on these boards even more saying how they are not treated fairly. For me, I don't need a respec at all but I would feel wronged if everyone got a respec. This is because I would have tons of deaths due to OP weapons in this game that came from a large group of people. That would THEN cause people to do this over and over and over again. Whats the next OP weapon? Lets skill into that because we know that they will give a respec when they balance that said OP weapon. Understand?

If you want a respec, then you should pay 60 dollars to them to help make this game better. I mean seriously people. You are playing a FREE game and I have NEVER heard so much whining in my entire life. Go ENJOY the game for once instead of complaining about this and that.

This game has been a big disappointment and I am positive that it is due to all of the people on these forums. It seems like they are always taking a step back to please the community when in fact they should be working on what matters. What matters in a video game is that there is always new content.

There has been new content added to the game, yet it still feels like it is in beta form. What brand new launch game has TDM, Skirmish, and a knock off dumb downed Skirmish mode?

We see CCP not doing anything and were like:

Not being silent

FREE for a Freeloader maybe..... You are so Irrelevant it hurts We the Supporters & Founders have every right to make Requests & voice our Concerns. You on the other hand.....not so much

My name is in there like 2 times

Are you saying changing ppls classes and not leting them spec out of it does not matter? Cuz we cant enjoy the game if we dont have say in how we play. That would be like me telling you what to post on your reply to this thread and having no abliity to change it. Would you enjoy posting on the forums if i made you look like an idiot every time you said something? cuz thats how we feel on the battlefeild when our classes get changed

So to all the people posting on here:

What did you do with your skill points when they gave the optional respecs. Screw up again? I mean seriously...

Nobody knew that the laser rifle was going to be utter garbage after chrome so I can understand why people skilled into it and found out that they desperately needed a respec.

What did you guys do? Skill into something like the laser rifle AGAIN only to find out that it still sucked?

Reasons why we want respecs :

To try a new role

To make the right decision

To spec into the next FoTM

Anti-respect peoples reasons to not give us respecs :

We will spec into the FoTM

There will probably be a rise in people using protogear

They already have the right build they want

They already got a respec in uprising(so they don't want to be stomped by new protogear)

The main thing I hear from anti-respec people is that "there shouldn't be a respec because people are just gonna spec into the next FoTM". I say let them have their respecs, if they spec into the FoTM again then they are SOL , THEN there shouldn't be any more respecs. The only thing anti-respec people hear when someone mentions a respc is "I wanna spec into the FoTM". Try looking at this respec war from a different point of view then you will see the logic behind both sides

I am perfectly okay with everyone getting a respec under one circumstance.

All SP that was used to skill into Flaylocks, MD, Caldari Logi, and Melee will be "Locked"

This is coming from someone who wouldn't change one thing in my skill tree. That is all I would ask if this was to be done. If this doesn't seem fair then your intentions for this respec are not pure.

We just did that. Ok so we do it ONE MORE TIME. Then two months down the road, CCP adds caldari/mini heavy/scout. MOAR RESPECTS!

So when does it end? I say let them make their changes, get all the content in, then we can have one FINAL respec. Until then why bother with respec threads?

We just did that. Ok so we do it ONE MORE TIME. Then two months down the road, CCP adds caldari/mini heavy/scout. MOAR RESPECTS!

So when does it end? I say let them make their changes, get all the content in, then we can have one FINAL respec. Until then why bother with respec threads?

Until we see the exact changes being made, you have no basis for a respec. Changing how vehicles work might be more comprehensive, but it's no different than changing the behaviour of flaylocks, Tacs, or CalLogis. At the end of the day, the content is still the same content.

You skilled into vehicles, so you're keeping vehicles. All you're trying to do is squeeze something you want out of CCP. Your arguments are all proxies for this, not the real reason for receiving this.

Reasons why we want respecs :

To try a new role

To make the right decision

To spec into the next FoTM

Anti-respect peoples reasons to not give us respecs :

We will spec into the FoTM

There will probably be a rise in people using protogear

They already have the right build they want

They already got a respec in uprising(so they don't want to be stomped by new protogear)

The main thing I hear from anti-respec people is that "there shouldn't be a respec because people are just gonna spec into the next FoTM". I say let them have their respecs, if they spec into the FoTM and it get nerfed/balanced then they are SOL , THEN there shouldn't be any more respecs. The only thing anti-respec people hear when someone mentions a respec is "I wanna spec into the FoTM". Try looking at this respec war from a different point of view then you will see the logic behind both sides

For the record, I personally do not want a respec. I don't need one, I have my skills where I want them considering the content currently available. The reason I am sort of in favor of a respec is because there have been a lot of vehicles changes being made and those guys skilled into one thing and CCP changed it to something else. Think of it like CCP took their skill points away and instead of giving them back as unallocated they moved them somewhere else.

You know what CCP ... just do it ... the players that are here now are the core of this game, the ones that have stuck with it through thick and thin and will stick with it and promote it and make it good.

What you're doing over the next couple of months you should be able to bring some good balance and roles and hopefully some big improvements to hit detection / lag problems.

So just give an optional respec, hell give an optional asset liquidation aswell (unless you think you can float the market before christmas) ... and make it VERY clear there will never be another one, so if you want the Minmatar Heavy either save your points till it's released (preferably giving a clue how soon) and make do with basic gear till then or skill the Amarr and put up with it till you have the sp to cross train the Minmatar aswell.

I don't really want one, but if you're going to do it I may aswell drop my AV skills and you may aswell cancel 1.5 and start working on something else, cos the way this lot are going on there won't be any vehicles in the game no matter how good you make them.

Signed for the 'Could care less anymore whether you give a respec or not so long as it shuts this lot up' petition.

Trying a new role. Most gear has a militia version and if not then level one is usually affordable.
To make the right decision. Sorry, we all make mistakes
To spec into FoTM. Bad all the way around.
Will spec into FoTM. We can't prove this but it does allow them to spec out of FoTM which is bad also.
They have the right build they want. I don't know how to answer this.
They already had a respec. Yes they did but we are missing "core" items that are needed.


I see more negatives than positives and I agree with no refunds until ALL racial items are in game and then only partial respecs for the skills in the same tree as the missing stuff. I am willing to convert but I need better reasons.

Looks like someone already has their perfect build.

Yup, and even if it changes drastically, it's still going to be the perfect build. That's because I picked the playstyle I wanted, rather than the stats I wanted.

If people don't want tanks anymore, despite the fact that they're still going to be tanks, then it's clear they didn't pick the playstyle they wanted. It's their own fault, they shouldn't be rewarded for it.

ah, **** it....im gettin into this thread.

jimbo, funny post, yet there is truth there. Ever since day 1 i have specced into tanks and run militia/dren/skinweaves as infantry, so i know just how ****** MDs, cores, duvolles, etc. can be. BELIEVE ME i have wanted to spec into them (yay alts) but because i understand that balancing bites the FOTM users in the long run, I have maintained a realistic and SMART allocation of my sp into what i like to play instead of what i think kills the best. Because of this i get to enjoy knowing my sp is safe from the side effects of a ruined character who has sp jumbled into a bunch of subpar things.

I play what i like and because i wasnt fickle with my sp my char does what i want it to do and does it exceptionally well

They have the right build as in they like the way they spent their SP and don't want a respec to happen.

I'm not going to try to force you to change your mind but how long do you think it will take until ALL of the racial variants are out?1 or 2 years? By that time we wont even need a respec or a lot of people will probably have left Dust but who knows.

Yup, and even if it changes drastically, it's still going to be the perfect build. That's because I picked the playstyle I wanted, rather than the stats I wanted.

If people don't want tanks anymore, despite the fact that they're still going to be tanks, then it's clear they didn't pick the playstyle they wanted. It's their own fault, they shouldn't be rewarded for it.

That's exactly one of the points I'm making , you have the build you want and therefore you are saying "No respecs because I have the build I wanted" that's what the majority of anti-respec people say its not like we are all the same , people make different choices and you made a choice that you were happy with. As for vehicles you can utilize those way more than other things if you goof up on them.

I think we may have a fire lit under them and I want to say December for a full line up. I am not being an a#$ but how long of a notice do we need for mercs to prepare. If they were to come out in Dec. would a months notice give us enough time to save for the skill? If a five week notice was given would we need a refund?

Lucky you ... I specced the flaylock on day one because I liked the way it looked on the video and it worked great with my Swarms (a little too great) so it became a FotM and got nerfed ... since that nerf it simply doesn't register damage if I hit someone square in the chest or right between their feet, so I've got well over a million sp invested in flaylock but I run with a skill free Toxin SMG now for the fitting requirements and I've got it up to level 3 or 4 operation now.

Not saying I want a respec per se (see my above post for this opinion) I'm just saying lucky you that what you skilled in still works ! and hopefully hit detection will render my points useful again since I've heard other people say it's still useable.

But that's the problem we don't know when or even a timeframe of when they will come out and even if they did come out there shouldn't be a full respec for every time something new comes out.

This is why dust needs a Test server like Eve.

That's exactly one of the points I'm making , you have the build you want and therefore you are saying "No respecs because I have the build I wanted" that's what the majority of anti-respec people say its not like we are all the same , people make different choices and you made a choice that you were happy with. As for vehicles you can utilize those way more than other things if you goof up on them.

But that's the problem we don't know when or even a timeframe of when they will come out and even if they did come out there shouldn't be a full respec for every time something new comes out.

This is why dust needs a Test server like Eve.

We are the test server, balancing the game is fun and creates conflict. Until we have higher numbers a test server isn't worth the time and effort.

Respecs for unhappy allocation isn't a good reason for refunds like being happy with my placement is not a reason against. I love my builds but I made mistakes and I skilled into things I don't like or are unhappy with performance. There is nothing I can do about it and I moved on, I want ewar so I speced into active scanners, they feel pointless. I will use them again and they will be tweaked so my SP wasn't wasted. That doesn't mean I am happy about it but I suck it up and keep going. The main point I try to keep making is try before blindly dumping into high level skills. It does help.

That's a problem, most cant extensively try something out unless you have aurum, and some people don't even have aurum. and you may say "make an alt and try it out" remember not everyone thinks the same so most wouldn't think of that or they just don't have the SP.

Not having a test server didn't created any problems. It may help find some but it didn't create any. The problems we have are normal problems. The problems seem worse because of the SP system. We feel locked into a role and we feel like prototype gear is the only answer to every problem. We don't try before we buy and we are used to games that allow us to do anything we want pretty much whenever we want without consequences. It is a mentality problem more than anything.

Most items have militia versions and most level one skills are cheap (five battles cheap), not being able to try anything because of lack of real life money isn't a valid argument. All items are available in game for ISK.

Which requires you to use SP to obtain which nullifies but at the same time help your statement

Which requires you to use SP to obtain which nullifies but at the same time help your statement

most level one skills are cheap (five battles cheap)

That SP argument could potentially be a partial counter to the post if it hadn't included this part:

Malitia require no skill and yes level one cost sp but it so little I don't consider it a cost. When I say try before by I mean try before spending level 3 points on and item you haven't used. Aura items require skill points so they are in the same place as any other item. Aur items are a trap like lottery tickets, if you believe that they help you win then you have already lost.

Well as i have said before to me there really are 2 options that CCP has to make this game very successful.
The first and probably most popular would be to have a REAL play test server. This would be a server where hundred of hardcore gamers are invited to play. This is where players get all sorts of goodies to play with and break and such before released to the general public. They would have first crack at everything and get to have all sorts of fun testing weapons that on initial release are OP. CCP would get all sorts of data on this and be able to release a balanced weapon.

However i have no confidence that will ever be the case.
So because of CCP's lack of ability to release balanced weapons and such i believe that they should be very willing to give out at the very least partial re-specs.

This would apply any time they make major changes to any item and allow people that specked into said item to change their mind.
I consider this holing CCP to the same standards they hold players to. If i spec into a dropsuit that has a ehp of 2k with no mods and has the run speed of an assault suit then a month later ccp cuts the ehps in half and makes it as slow as a heavy i should be able to get those sp's back. Its not my fault they released a very desirable product to me that didnt require a glitch to make it awesome.
Yes this would result in a lot of what people call flavor of the month. Keep in mind this is not my preferred solution either. I would prefer a test server

Honestly this communitys total IQ hurts, respecs should be given bi-monthly. This is a beta ffs.

Honestly this communitys total IQ hurts, respecs should be given bi-monthly. This is a beta ffs.

Now bi-monthly may be too much, or at least if it was bi-monthly to have it cost aurum.

Militia is garbage and basic is far from Advanced equipment so if you wanted to really get a feel for something then you would have to get the advanced to see how it does which is a bit of SP to get which would be a waste if it doesn't work how its supposed to or its broken. There are still good aurum Items which are worth using aurum for.

They developed it and released it so it is not a Beta because they say so. No other option counts because they said it is released. You can call it beta all you want but they own the game and they say it is release. Bi-monthly respecs would kill this game in four months. If you think it is bad now just imagine people only playing on weeks 7-9 of the respec.

We would all be happy if a respec came so we can try other things and so this war on respecs can stop.

You know, I suffered by many LAVs. Just earlier today, I played a domination match where a LLAV just drove around running my teammates and I over. I got on comms to coordinate swarm attacks but the vehicle was just too powerful.

So I suggested on comms that our team just clone them to punish them for using LLAVs. It worked out nicely. The whole team just turned a page and began decimating the reds while NULL cannon decimated their MCC. We just did our best effort to avoid the LAV while rapidly picking off the reds. It was great

I said all this to say this, I think its not cool those folks get respecs for all their SP dumped into LAVs. They used a very easy, cheap method to gain kills. With every reward there is risk and vice versa. Just like I suffered at the wheel of many LAV (and the worst is when your dead body is dragged around like a scene from Troy), they should suffer the consequences of making that decision to just skill up a vehicle just to play murder taxi.

I think its utterly wrong. They had their fun. The respecs they are asking for is just to continue that. If you're ready to win, you should be ready to lose. It's their time to lose. It's only fair.

Honestly this communitys total IQ hurts, respecs should be given bi-monthly. This is a beta ffs.

We don't need anything to draw players away from the real game. How are we going to select the invites? Giving players a place to go where stats aren't tracked and decisions don't matter then they will play there because they want a game that lets them do what they want. I think it is bad because for the time the server is up lots of players will flock there just for fun instead of playing on the real server for fun. Lots of people don't like the SP system or loosing expensive gear and a test server only gives them a place to go.

If CCP send invites to select mercs then they are playing favorites and the tin foil will be folded into many hats.

We see CCP not doing anything and were like:

Not being silent

We see CCP not doing anything and were like:

Not being silent

This list is pretty much the whole Dust playerbase! Sign me up as well. People should be able to play the game the way they want so they should be able to respect to try out every type of setup to find one that works. For those that don't want respecs, don't respect. No one is forcing you to, but don't tell those that do want respecs they can't simply because you don't want it. You got lucky and found a load out that works for you, well everyone should be able to do that no matter how long it takes them and they should be able to reallocate SP when they waste it in useless skills that CCP designed.

Until we see the exact changes being made, you have no basis for a respec. Changing how vehicles work might be more comprehensive, but it's no different than changing the behaviour of flaylocks, Tacs, or CalLogis. At the end of the day, the content is still the same content.

You skilled into vehicles, so you're keeping vehicles. All you're trying to do is squeeze something you want out of CCP. Your arguments are all proxies for this, not the real reason for receiving this.

Meh. I'm fine without a respec but man if I had one, I would switch out of this garbage Gallente suit, and go straight into Min Logi. Speed > Armor shield > Armor, 5.0 > 4.7. I'm getting by right now with Basic Ferroscale plates.