DUST Search - Logic of ppl who are against respecs:

The Robot Devil wrote:

Thurak1 wrote:

Well as i have said before to me there really are 2 options that CCP has to make this game very successful.
The first and probably most popular would be to have a REAL play test server. This would be a server where hundred of hardcore gamers are invited to play. This is where players get all sorts of goodies to play with and break and such before released to the general public. They would have first crack at everything and get to have all sorts of fun testing weapons that on initial release are OP. CCP would get all sorts of data on this and be able to release a balanced weapon.

However i have no confidence that will ever be the case.
So because of CCP's lack of ability to release balanced weapons and such i believe that they should be very willing to give out at the very least partial re-specs.

This would apply any time they make major changes to any item and allow people that specked into said item to change their mind.
I consider this holing CCP to the same standards they hold players to. If i spec into a dropsuit that has a ehp of 2k with no mods and has the run speed of an assault suit then a month later ccp cuts the ehps in half and makes it as slow as a heavy i should be able to get those sp's back. Its not my fault they released a very desirable product to me that didnt require a glitch to make it awesome.
Yes this would result in a lot of what people call flavor of the month. Keep in mind this is not my preferred solution either. I would prefer a test server

We don't need anything to draw players away from the real game. How are we going to select the invites? Giving players a place to go where stats aren't tracked and decisions don't matter then they will play there because they want a game that lets them do what they want. I think it is bad because for the time the server is up lots of players will flock there just for fun instead of playing on the real server for fun. Lots of people don't like the SP system or loosing expensive gear and a test server only gives them a place to go.

If CCP send invites to select mercs then they are playing favorites and the tin foil will be folded into many hats.

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Thurak1 Psygod9 107	Posted - 2013.09.01 00:25:00 - [1] - Quote Well as i have said before to me there really are 2 options that CCP has to make this game very successful. The first and probably most popular would be to have a REAL play test server. This would be a server where hundred of hardcore gamers are invited to play. This is where players get all sorts of goodies to play with and break and such before released to the general public. They would have first crack at everything and get to have all sorts of fun testing weapons that on initial release are OP. CCP would get all sorts of data on this and be able to release a balanced weapon. However i have no confidence that will ever be the case. So because of CCP's lack of ability to release balanced weapons and such i believe that they should be very willing to give out at the very least partial re-specs. This would apply any time they make major changes to any item and allow people that specked into said item to change their mind. I consider this holing CCP to the same standards they hold players to. If i spec into a dropsuit that has a ehp of 2k with no mods and has the run speed of an assault suit then a month later ccp cuts the ehps in half and makes it as slow as a heavy i should be able to get those sp's back. Its not my fault they released a very desirable product to me that didnt require a glitch to make it awesome. Yes this would result in a lot of what people call flavor of the month. Keep in mind this is not my preferred solution either. I would prefer a test server
Thurak1 Psygod9 113	Posted - 2013.09.01 02:25:00 - [2] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Thurak1 wrote: Well as i have said before to me there really are 2 options that CCP has to make this game very successful. The first and probably most popular would be to have a REAL play test server. This would be a server where hundred of hardcore gamers are invited to play. This is where players get all sorts of goodies to play with and break and such before released to the general public. They would have first crack at everything and get to have all sorts of fun testing weapons that on initial release are OP. CCP would get all sorts of data on this and be able to release a balanced weapon. However i have no confidence that will ever be the case. So because of CCP's lack of ability to release balanced weapons and such i believe that they should be very willing to give out at the very least partial re-specs. This would apply any time they make major changes to any item and allow people that specked into said item to change their mind. I consider this holing CCP to the same standards they hold players to. If i spec into a dropsuit that has a ehp of 2k with no mods and has the run speed of an assault suit then a month later ccp cuts the ehps in half and makes it as slow as a heavy i should be able to get those sp's back. Its not my fault they released a very desirable product to me that didnt require a glitch to make it awesome. Yes this would result in a lot of what people call flavor of the month. Keep in mind this is not my preferred solution either. I would prefer a test server We don't need anything to draw players away from the real game. How are we going to select the invites? Giving players a place to go where stats aren't tracked and decisions don't matter then they will play there because they want a game that lets them do what they want. I think it is bad because for the time the server is up lots of players will flock there just for fun instead of playing on the real server for fun. Lots of people don't like the SP system or loosing expensive gear and a test server only gives them a place to go. If CCP send invites to select mercs then they are playing favorites and the tin foil will be folded into many hats. See here is the thing the server wouldn't be something thats put online and offline at whim. The play test server would have more down time than the regular server because it would be updated more frequently. The server itself also would have a much lower player cap like i said something in the hundreds not thousands. This way they could actually find out what weapons are broken before releasing to the GP. When i used to play on the EQ test server it was not something i played on all the time because some things were so OP that it gets tedious quickly so i would file some feedback and generally go back to playing on the regular server until they made an adjustment on the test server.