We just did that. Ok so we do it ONE MORE TIME. Then two months down the road, CCP adds caldari/mini heavy/scout. MOAR RESPECTS!

So when does it end? I say let them make their changes, get all the content in, then we can have one FINAL respec. Until then why bother with respec threads?

Until we see the exact changes being made, you have no basis for a respec. Changing how vehicles work might be more comprehensive, but it's no different than changing the behaviour of flaylocks, Tacs, or CalLogis. At the end of the day, the content is still the same content.

You skilled into vehicles, so you're keeping vehicles. All you're trying to do is squeeze something you want out of CCP. Your arguments are all proxies for this, not the real reason for receiving this.

Trying a new role. Most gear has a militia version and if not then level one is usually affordable.
To make the right decision. Sorry, we all make mistakes
To spec into FoTM. Bad all the way around.
Will spec into FoTM. We can't prove this but it does allow them to spec out of FoTM which is bad also.
They have the right build they want. I don't know how to answer this.
They already had a respec. Yes they did but we are missing "core" items that are needed.


I see more negatives than positives and I agree with no refunds until ALL racial items are in game and then only partial respecs for the skills in the same tree as the missing stuff. I am willing to convert but I need better reasons.

Yup, and even if it changes drastically, it's still going to be the perfect build. That's because I picked the playstyle I wanted, rather than the stats I wanted.

If people don't want tanks anymore, despite the fact that they're still going to be tanks, then it's clear they didn't pick the playstyle they wanted. It's their own fault, they shouldn't be rewarded for it.

I think we may have a fire lit under them and I want to say December for a full line up. I am not being an a#$ but how long of a notice do we need for mercs to prepare. If they were to come out in Dec. would a months notice give us enough time to save for the skill? If a five week notice was given would we need a refund?

We are the test server, balancing the game is fun and creates conflict. Until we have higher numbers a test server isn't worth the time and effort.

Respecs for unhappy allocation isn't a good reason for refunds like being happy with my placement is not a reason against. I love my builds but I made mistakes and I skilled into things I don't like or are unhappy with performance. There is nothing I can do about it and I moved on, I want ewar so I speced into active scanners, they feel pointless. I will use them again and they will be tweaked so my SP wasn't wasted. That doesn't mean I am happy about it but I suck it up and keep going. The main point I try to keep making is try before blindly dumping into high level skills. It does help.

Not having a test server didn't created any problems. It may help find some but it didn't create any. The problems we have are normal problems. The problems seem worse because of the SP system. We feel locked into a role and we feel like prototype gear is the only answer to every problem. We don't try before we buy and we are used to games that allow us to do anything we want pretty much whenever we want without consequences. It is a mentality problem more than anything.

Most items have militia versions and most level one skills are cheap (five battles cheap), not being able to try anything because of lack of real life money isn't a valid argument. All items are available in game for ISK.

Malitia require no skill and yes level one cost sp but it so little I don't consider it a cost. When I say try before by I mean try before spending level 3 points on and item you haven't used. Aura items require skill points so they are in the same place as any other item. Aur items are a trap like lottery tickets, if you believe that they help you win then you have already lost.

Honestly this communitys total IQ hurts, respecs should be given bi-monthly. This is a beta ffs.

They developed it and released it so it is not a Beta because they say so. No other option counts because they said it is released. You can call it beta all you want but they own the game and they say it is release. Bi-monthly respecs would kill this game in four months. If you think it is bad now just imagine people only playing on weeks 7-9 of the respec.

You know, I suffered by many LAVs. Just earlier today, I played a domination match where a LLAV just drove around running my teammates and I over. I got on comms to coordinate swarm attacks but the vehicle was just too powerful.

So I suggested on comms that our team just clone them to punish them for using LLAVs. It worked out nicely. The whole team just turned a page and began decimating the reds while NULL cannon decimated their MCC. We just did our best effort to avoid the LAV while rapidly picking off the reds. It was great

I said all this to say this, I think its not cool those folks get respecs for all their SP dumped into LAVs. They used a very easy, cheap method to gain kills. With every reward there is risk and vice versa. Just like I suffered at the wheel of many LAV (and the worst is when your dead body is dragged around like a scene from Troy), they should suffer the consequences of making that decision to just skill up a vehicle just to play murder taxi.

I think its utterly wrong. They had their fun. The respecs they are asking for is just to continue that. If you're ready to win, you should be ready to lose. It's their time to lose. It's only fair.