I know a lot of guys that are badass with that suit. Gallente suits will be amazing with this update.

Coupled with a shield nerf it might end up breaking the game if/when CCP takes 4 months to rebalance.

Assault means assault!!!As heavy means heavy!!!!

I'm Gallente Assault and I think you are an idiot

At least you started hitting the spacebar after commas. Well, some of the time at least...

The Gallente are not nearly as awful as you claim them to be.

Oh, and it is ridiculous to claim the armour buff to be "FAIL" when you yourself have not experienced it first-hand.

"Mooommmm! Gallente assaults have more HP than me!"

I was wondering when the idiots would start replying, and congratulations, youre idiot number 1 lol

They've commented that Heavy refers to the weapons, not the suit.

I understand your frustation but saying curse words and calling others idiots is not what is going to help fix this game.

Sorry sky, i cant take you seriously with all the other ridiculous posts about this. i Shield tank and Armour tank. im a calogi and i wish i went galogi, for the equipment slot and so people would stop fluxing me!! so yeah you need to stop complaining, and maybe change your play style? Armour and shield do not play the same way

Wut?

Youre not gallente, so you dont know what im talking about!

Armor tanker, thats just stupid, an assault should never be na armor tanker in the first place, thats the heavy's role!

What's going to happen when we get Caldari and Minmatar heavies?

yes i have, i probably have more experience with all the races than you, not saying im superior, just sayin i have more time in this. and its not that your play style is wrong, its that each tank has a different way of playing. experiment with that, maybe you'll figure it out

I'm guessing the OP spends a lot of time licking windows until his mom loads Dust for him.

and you're stupid...

The assault role needs mobilty in order to survive against other assaults.
And ive been playing since January 26th...
Its not my playstyle i can kill proto heavies and proto gallente easy with just my 3 complex shields and no 3 armor repairers, why ?? MOBILITY!!
But agaisnt other assaults its whole new ball game!

and youre too young to be playing violent games lol

No iam not gallentee and that has absolutely nothing to do with balance,

First the update aint here yet so how do you know its a FAIL?
Armor has advantages shield does not for one the updated plates will have double the hp of a shield extender so even if you go half plate half rep then you are still getting as good as possibly better than a simular shield tank,

Having armor leave lots of high slots for damage mods very useful,

Lastly and defiantly not least rep tools will rep you fast a damn site better than a shields regen, this open up the option to buffer tank if you have a logi shield guys cant do that at all.

This is coming from someone who runs a minmatar assualt suit so i guess iam a damage and get out of their tank.

35 or not you sound like a kid who needs to go play CoD. earn tu prey or GTFO

Ive read about the update, and i still prefer no damage mods,shields and armor repairers.If youre thinking i shouldve gone caldari,then deep inside you now im right.
But what about all the other gallente, have you seen many?? Why do you think its full of caldari and amarr assault?
And if gallente get the armor buff, next people will complain about them using damage mods!

I've been playing since September, but there are plenty that have played longer, but i think they either dont look at the forums cause it full of... you people. or they wont dignify you with a response, galente Armour tank, they have high slots open for damage mods, so yes less mobility, for more damage, and after 1.4 you'll have even more HP and faster. so if anything, save your skill points and wait for 1.4 then armour tankers can rejoice!

and thats great you can do it with shields, now do it with Armour, now you can put damage mods on without sacrificing HP. if your good at this game, you should be able to get those even more damaging shots on target.

oh and i just read that you 35... so you say. well you sure don't sound like one, grow up and write a post that doesn't have im 14 written all over it

Ive read about the update, and i still prefer no damage mods,shields and armor repairers.If youre thinking i shouldve gone caldari,then deep inside you now im right.
But what about all the other gallente, have you seen many?? Why do you think its full of caldari and amarr assault?
And if gallente get the armor buff, next people will complain about them using damage mods!

STFU or ill hack you lol

I was wondering when the idiots would start replying, and congratulations, youre idiot number 1 lol

The assault role needs mobilty in order to survive against other assaults.
And ive been playing since January 26th...
Its not my playstyle i can kill proto heavies and proto gallente easy with just my 3 complex shields and no armor, just 3 armor repairers, why ?? MOBILITY!!
But agaisnt other assaults its whole new ball game!

IF YOURE NOT GALLENTE ASSAULT DONT REPLY...

While my avatar is Caldari, I play Gal Assault exclusively. I've been an armor tanker since late Chromo. I for one am very much looking forward to this buff. I bet CCP won't implement any shield drawbacks because this balance pass will level, if not completely shift, the tanking balance.

You can't play every race/type the same. You need to adapt your strategy and tactics to your fit and vice versa. If you can't figure that out, I predict much rage and QQ in your future.

Just make all assaults shield based regardless of their race, instead of coming up with ridiculous updates that literally just make me laugh.If youre gallente assault and you agree with me, post about it and make yourselves be heard!!!!
ITS NOT FAIR!
Together we will make CCP hear us and change DUST forever!

I'm posting again about the gallente assault dropsuits because the update wont solve our dilema, if youre gallente you'll undestand, if not, dont even bother replying because i dont give 2 fucks what you think.
First of all this update is reducing armor movement penalties and that doesnt solve the problem. I will still have to use armor repairers and because of that i wont be able to use more armor, so ill be weaker and slower, than a shield user, even after the update.
Dont give me that crap about gallente are meant to be armor,yall sound like 12 year olds that got told santa claus doesnt exist.
Its an FPS MMO, not a magic and sword MMO!
Assault means assault!!!As heavy means heavy!!!!
I beg CCP to consider this and try going with a gallente against any full proto from any other race, even an adv can woop yo ass.
Next time you get killed by a gallente just remember that youre going up against a slower oponent that has much less HP than you and recharges his HP slower,not to mention the fact that it is armor based and the shields are better against most weaponry except energy weapons, it also doesnt need 'repairers'.
Gallente players that score high are truelly skilled players, but if you notice, that is rare.
I used to be Caldari and i used to get 30 kills and i never died and that was with the type 2.
With the gallente proto i can get 20 kills max and that is against noobs in adv and std dropsuits.
Dont say its because every one is stronger now,i already took that into consideration, im not an idiot...
As for the update, i keep repeating myself, but thats mandatory at the moment, as the update will be out in the 29th.
Focus on what im going to say now...
Gallente assault should be treated as an assault, just because on eve the gallente are armor based ships, its just stupid to make an assault armor based, might as well start using a heavywith your duvolle, because as the word assault implies,we charge and conquer objectives, we are not defenders,we need mobility.
Its simply not fair.
Just make all assaults shield based regardless of their race, instead of coming up with ridiculous updates that literally just make me laugh.If youre gallente assault and you agree with me, post about it and make yourselves be heard!!!!
ITS NOT FAIR!
Together we will make CCP hear us and change DUST forever!

I can actually say from experience facing sky that he is a decent player but his gallente suit lets him down, to slow, he has beaten me but generally gallente assault are just free kills to me regardless of who uses them. If you stick a duvolle in a heavies hands and a gallente assaults, the gallente is basically a gimp heavy,

I think personally that the gallente assault should be something like -2% to armour speed reduction per level or something like that, seriously at max tank 1 grenade will kill gallente if its shields are down MOST of the time and the speed is just too slow.

This is just my opinion and I believe it to be correct from experience.

I don't see your point. Gallente are better at armour tanking than Amarr, you will have a much great EHP, and equivalent rep speed, you also can fit more high tech AR weaponry..... why are you complaining when your movement speed is about to be significantly better, and single grenade will kill an amarrian suit too.

Wtf are you on about? What complaining lol

I am an amarr logi

My apologies then, but again there is no real reason for anybody to be criticising the changes in 1.4 since in all honesty we just haven't experienced them yet, speculation fine, but to complain now is just theory crafting on the OP's part and generally a pretty weak reason to complain in general....

That's ok, im just stating how totally sht the gallente suit is right now, like I said its just free kills to me

I'm posting again about the gallente assault dropsuits because the update wont solve our dilema, if youre gallente you'll undestand, if not, dont even bother replying because i dont give 2 fucks what you think.
First of all this update is reducing armor movement penalties and that doesnt solve the problem. I will still have to use armor repairers and because of that i wont be able to use more armor, so ill be weaker and slower, than a shield user, even after the update.
Dont give me that crap about gallente are meant to be armor,yall sound like 12 year olds that got told santa claus doesnt exist.
Its an FPS MMO, not a magic and sword MMO!
Assault means assault!!!As heavy means heavy!!!!
I beg CCP to consider this and try going with a gallente against any full proto from any other race, even an adv can woop yo ass.
Next time you get killed by a gallente just remember that youre going up against a slower oponent that has much less HP than you and recharges his HP slower,not to mention the fact that it is armor based and the shields are better against most weaponry except energy weapons, it also doesnt need 'repairers'.
Gallente players that score high are truelly skilled players, but if you notice, that is rare.
I used to be Caldari and i used to get 30 kills and i never died and that was with the type 2.
With the gallente proto i can get 20 kills max and that is against noobs in adv and std dropsuits.
Dont say its because every one is stronger now,i already took that into consideration, im not an idiot...
As for the update, i keep repeating myself, but thats mandatory at the moment, as the update will be out in the 29th.
Focus on what im going to say now...
Gallente assault should be treated as an assault, just because on eve the gallente are armor based ships, its just stupid to make an assault armor based, might as well start using a heavywith your duvolle, because as the word assault implies,we charge and conquer objectives, we are not defenders,we need mobility.
Its simply not fair.
Just make all assaults shield based regardless of their race, instead of coming up with ridiculous updates that literally just make me laugh.If youre gallente assault and you agree with me, post about it and make yourselves be heard!!!!
ITS NOT FAIR!
Together we will make CCP hear us and change DUST forever!

I'm an Amarr assault, and I run even slower than you. That said I kill people just fine

I'm posting again about the gallente assault dropsuits because the update wont solve our dilema, if youre gallente you'll undestand, if not, dont even bother replying because i dont give 2 fucks what you think.
First of all this update is reducing armor movement penalties and that doesnt solve the problem. I will still have to use armor repairers and because of that i wont be able to use more armor, so ill be weaker and slower, than a shield user, even after the update.
Dont give me that crap about gallente are meant to be armor,yall sound like 12 year olds that got told santa claus doesnt exist.
Its an FPS MMO, not a magic and sword MMO!
Assault means assault!!!As heavy means heavy!!!!
I beg CCP to consider this and try going with a gallente against any full proto from any other race, even an adv can woop yo ass.
Next time you get killed by a gallente just remember that youre going up against a slower oponent that has much less HP than you and recharges his HP slower,not to mention the fact that it is armor based and the shields are better against most weaponry except energy weapons, it also doesnt need 'repairers'.
Gallente players that score high are truelly skilled players, but if you notice, that is rare.
I used to be Caldari and i used to get 30 kills and i never died and that was with the type 2.
With the gallente proto i can get 20 kills max and that is against noobs in adv and std dropsuits.
Dont say its because every one is stronger now,i already took that into consideration, im not an idiot...
As for the update, i keep repeating myself, but thats mandatory at the moment, as the update will be out in the 29th.
Focus on what im going to say now...
Gallente assault should be treated as an assault, just because on eve the gallente are armor based ships, its just stupid to make an assault armor based, might as well start using a heavywith your duvolle, because as the word assault implies,we charge and conquer objectives, we are not defenders,we need mobility.
Its simply not fair.
Just make all assaults shield based regardless of their race, instead of coming up with ridiculous updates that literally just make me laugh.If youre gallente assault and you agree with me, post about it and make yourselves be heard!!!!
ITS NOT FAIR!
Together we will make CCP hear us and change DUST forever!

Gallente Assault here.

The changes in 1.4 are a step in the right direction. I think Gallente assaults need a bonus to armor repping as well. I'd like to see 1 hp per second per level. Or perhaps something to reduce movement penalty by 10% per level.

I also think the explosive bonus to armor needs to be looked at. 130% is too high imo.

I've also been absolutely melted by scrambler rifles. I don't see them that often and I don't know if there's a bug there or not but they don't seem to have much trouble cutting through armor as well as shields.

You could've remained using Caldari suits...

It doesnt take a rocket scientist to see it will suck.

This update is going to balance Armor vs shields to VERY CLOSE if not VERY VERY CLOSE.

Too late for that now, besides if the gallente assault continues to be armor based, no one will want to be a gallente, especially after they nerf damage mods when everyone starts coimplainning about getting owned by gallente all the time because they have damage mods.
But i dont think damage mods are worth losing your mobility, everyone that gets 60 kills in a match is a mobile soldier, usually a caldari assault shield tanker.

The current buff is jus a small step into the right direction. Shield vs armor gets a bit closer but they far from beeing close or very close. Shield tanker benefits from the buff as well if not even more. And a reasonable Armor fit gets just a small head up in EHP for the disadvantages that come with armor tanking.

This buff is better than nothing but believing this will solve the imbalance between shield and armor is IMHO wrong

I'm posting again about the gallente assault dropsuits because the update wont solve our dilema, if youre gallente you'll undestand, if not, dont even bother replying because i dont give 2 fucks what you think.
First of all this update is reducing armor movement penalties and that doesnt solve the problem. I will still have to use armor repairers and because of that i wont be able to use more armor, so ill be weaker and slower, than a shield user, even after the update.
Dont give me that crap about gallente are meant to be armor,yall sound like 12 year olds that got told santa claus doesnt exist.
Its an FPS MMO, not a magic and sword MMO!
Assault means assault!!!As heavy means heavy!!!!
I beg CCP to consider this and try going with a gallente against any full proto from any other race, even an adv can woop yo ass.
Next time you get killed by a gallente just remember that youre going up against a slower oponent that has much less HP than you and recharges his HP slower,not to mention the fact that it is armor based and the shields are better against most weaponry except energy weapons, it also doesnt need 'repairers'.
Gallente players that score high are truelly skilled players, but if you notice, that is rare.
I used to be Caldari and i used to get 30 kills and i never died and that was with the type 2.
With the gallente proto i can get 20 kills max and that is against noobs in adv and std dropsuits.
Dont say its because every one is stronger now,i already took that into consideration, im not an idiot...
As for the update, i keep repeating myself, but thats mandatory at the moment, as the update will be out in the 29th.
Focus on what im going to say now...
Gallente assault should be treated as an assault, just because on eve the gallente are armor based ships, its just stupid to make an assault armor based, might as well start using a heavywith your duvolle, because as the word assault implies,we charge and conquer objectives, we are not defenders,we need mobility.
Its simply not fair.
Just make all assaults shield based regardless of their race, instead of coming up with ridiculous updates that literally just make me laugh.If youre gallente assault and you agree with me, post about it and make yourselves be heard!!!!
ITS NOT FAIR!
Together we will make CCP hear us and change DUST forever!

Your point about shield tankers now having more HP than armour tankers is invalid because they'll have similar HP if you go for similar regen, and more HP if you go less regen. This is not a problem.
The movement penalty isn't bad now either.

I notice you mention the type 2 suit for your Caldari suit. Things were different then and we didn't have nearly so many proto tryhards.

Dude Im Caldari Assult Proto Maxed on all the basic skills , guess what ? Im considering specking into Gallente assult lol ...why?

1. Damage mods - At least 2 (That really cripples your shield tank)
2. Complex ferroscale - You have buff wihout sacrifising speed.
3. Logi - OMG makes you last sooo much longer.
4. And some secrets ....

You have no idea how lucky you are to have an armor tank + Gallente suits looks cool ...so htfu

Dude, your arguments consist of contradictory statements (as shown above) and otherwise just you bashing people by calling them idiots. "Gallente suits suck, but CCP is going to nerf damage mods because everyone gets owned by gallente suits that use them" Really? You don't think damage mods are worth losing mobility over??? WELL GOOD NEWS, in 1.4 armor tanking is getting a mobility AND HP buff........

The point is, stop complaining. CCP is trying to balance the in game content, not break it by making something new OP every month.

D00d what's your problem?

After your massive rant yesterday about you wanting a respec because you realised you screwed up your character; now you're raging on about this instead of rage quitting like you said you were going to!

The armor buff is going help out a ton; what are you on about? Yes its going to reduce the movement penalties (which is great on its own) but they are also increasing the HP given for each type; Basic, Advanced and Complex.

Being slow has nothing to do with everyone else having an advantage, you're probably restricting yourself due to the mind set you have gotten yourself into. All you need to do is to counter these GÇ£OP shield tankersGÇ¥ is to skill into a weapon that will destroy shields; e.g. The Scrambler Rifles (get the Assault variant because it owns) I roll, advanced Winmatar Logistics which is very similar to Gallente in that it is mainly an Armor tanker (it can be both); this buff is going to give my suit an extra 115 HP which I can't wait for! Bringing my suit to 600 EHP! while increasing my movement speed - Christmas came early!

Stop complaining about your wrong choices and get with the times....... or go make a new account like I informed you about yesterday!

Edit: As you say Armor doesn't repair itself, fit out a Armor Repairer or go Gallente Logistics. Logistics have a PASSIVE +1 HP/s arnor repair rate per level (no modules required to be fitted)

The buff to armor plates will surely help armor tankers to a certain degree.

This buff is a step in the right direction but it doesn't solve the generall imbalance betwenn shield and armor. The problem is it will also help shield tankers a lot maybe even more than armor tankers.

Shield is still far superior to armor. Its still stupid to have to disadvantages for one advantage on armor while shield gets two advantages without disadvantage.

CCP should really stop balancing thier game against upcoming changes (like the somewhere mentioned shield penalty) and should really start balancing their current stuff...

I'm guessing the OP spends a lot of time licking windows until his mom loads Dust for him.

Similar regen is around 15-20 armor HP/s, counting shield delays in a 30 second regen span without including regulators and rechargers or repair tools. Although we will have similar numerical HP but including resistances to damage etc shields have more HP since shield suits are the best dual tanks and dual tanking is the best form of tanking, but it is nice to have HP that looks the same.

Youre not a gallente assault...So wtf do you know?

I do have a Gallente Assault character; Ch1ef OGÇÖBrien and I think it plays out just fine, even having the use of a Sidearm is enough for me, being used to Winmatar Logistics (no sidearm)
Your reply is not an acceptable answer. It just goes to show that you have no real basis or idea what you're talking about seeing as you couldn't make a good reply.

Seriously though stop your whining, no-one likes babies!

The SCr only does 30.5 dmg to armor which isnt bad considering it rpm is in the 700 hundreds

The buff to armor plates will surely help armor tankers to a certain degree.

This buff is a step in the right direction but it doesn't solve the generall imbalance betwenn shield and armor. The problem is it will also help shield tankers a lot maybe even more than armor tankers.

Shield is still far superior to armor. Its still stupid to have to disadvantages for one advantage on armor while shield gets two advantages without disadvantage.

CCP should really stop balancing thier game against upcoming changes (like the somewhere mentioned shield penalty) and should really start balancing their current stuff...

Curious to understand how the armor changes help shield tankers? Dual tankers will probably rejoice but this does not help true shield tankers. Again dual tanking is easy for both sides... and both have advantages.

Curious as to what you see the advantages/disadvantage are for both shields and armor? I'm assuming your simplifying quite a bit but I think the advantage for armor probably are a disadvantage for shields.

Agreed on the shield penalty, why not just add it in CCP? Your mere mention but not addition is killing meaningful discussion as both sides are arguing different things.

I just didnt think you were worth my time...
And i know exactly what im talking about.
I can get more kills than you playing solo on a bad day...let alone with my squad....
Youre the one who doesnt know what hes talking about, if you use 3 armor reps, your shields will still charge faster...
Not to mention they dont need reps, if you think getting 20 kills is doing good, well ok, good for you, but i dont want to be good i want to be great...60 kills is what im aiming for...and if i was caldari i would have at least 50 kills a match...

Why do you need to take armor repairs?

No passive armor repair and logistics don't constantly repair you.

No passive armor repair and logistics don't constantly repair you.

I do agree logistics people need to use their role more for what it was meant to be for

I really couldn't care less if you can get more kills than me or not; we weren't even talking about that! Are you that stuck up or is there something wrong with you? Stop moaning all across the forums about how much you suck, no one cares. All weGÇÖre trying to do is help you out, but if you don't want our help, why then proceed to give smack to everyone?

You sir are a hopeless cause and a waste of time. Good luck to you and your GÇ£respecGÇ¥ and IGÇÖll try my best to stay away from your stupid thread posting in the future.

I've never encountered a poster that made me this frustrated haha. i think the problem is your stubborn. sure you might not get same kills, oh well, you can maintain your kd, just don't die a lot. and if you cant cause you say your gallente, switch up your play style

EDIT: so i just checked your stats, if you get 50 to 60 kills a game you must die a lot, cause you have a kd of 1.18

I don't think you understand how armor is meant to be used-
Armor tanks are frontliners- they're in the pack, where other people can repair them.

and if i was caldari i would have at least 50 kills a match...

so yeah, you just sorta lied there, you said at least 50 a match haha. and you have 9000 kills. if your that good you should be able to get some kills, and im gonna assume your kd was quite high if you got that many kills, so you have to get A LOT of deaths for that to get to a 1.18 haha. and Gallente don't suck, i wish i was gallente. real men hull tank, but we don't have hull, sooo real men Armour tank! haha.

i have only 8000 or 8500 kills, but im logi, so kills arn't important to me. and i have a better kd cause i role with my corp. you should try rolling with your corp, jack your Armour and find a nice logi. besides, if you have complex reps you can put two of those on, get a passive of like, 12.5 a second, and that can make a difference in a gunfight. i have a rep of 2 and it saves my life all the time

IF I WAS CALDARI NOW!!!

so yeah, you just sorta lied there, you said at least 50 a match haha. and you have 9000 kills. if your that good you should be able to get some kills, and im gonna assume your kd was quite high if you got that many kills, so you have to get A LOT of deaths for that to get to a 1.18 haha. and Gallente don't suck, i wish i was gallente. real men hull tank, but we don't have hull, sooo real men Armour tank! haha.

i have only 8000 or 8500 kills, but im logi, so kills arn't important to me. and i have a better kd cause i role with my corp. you should try rolling with your corp, jack your Armour and find a nice logi. besides, if you have complex reps you can put two of those on, get a passive of like, 12.5 a second, and that can make a difference in a gunfight. i have a rep of 2 and it saves my life all the time

yeah i did call you a liar, cause of conflicting information you gave us. never is a strong word

never said 'now' in that post. just try what i suggested, or what the other competent people suggest you to do. maybe youll get more kills

Gallente assaults could use a bonus to Armor rep instead of shield. Who puts a shield bonus on a armor tanked suit?

1.4 will do a LOT for gallente, and amarr, but the assault will still lack because it has a crappy bonus.

ok i think im just gonna leave the thread. i guess im not as smart as the other posters that realized you're a waste of time mush earlier than i did. an assault is a weak heavy? great! you want it stronger? go heavy. and CCP has made mistakes before, but i doubt what you talking about is a mistake, good Gallente wreak me all the time. they can get to 900 health, and if that's not enough for you, well too bad, that's some what the limit so you cant be over powered.

and no need to call me letters... oh wait that spells something. oh geez, your so mean!

Also, Does any other Gallente assault besides me actually mind that Shield Buff?

I use my shields as a buffer to help me peek around corners or assess a situation quickly; it helps to have a fast regen pool of health in those spots.

Not to mention the mind game you can play with people, when they think you're at 50% health when your shields are gone, when in reality you've got plenty of armor left to take out anyone that's blindly charging you in an attempt to get a kill.

Minnie Assault posting in gallente assault. Neee-nerrr neee-nerrrr neee-nerrrr.

Gallente assaults could use a bonus to Armor rep instead of shield. Who puts a shield bonus on a armor tanked suit?

1.4 will do a LOT for gallente, and amarr, but the assault will still lack because it has a crappy bonus.

I'm posting again about the gallente assault dropsuits because the update wont solve our dilema, if youre gallente you'll undestand, if not, dont even bother replying because i dont give 2 fucks what you think.
First of all this update is reducing armor movement penalties and that doesnt solve the problem. I will still have to use armor repairers and because of that i wont be able to use more armor, so ill be weaker and slower, than a shield user, even after the update.
Dont give me that crap about gallente are meant to be armor,yall sound like 12 year olds that got told santa claus doesnt exist.
Its an FPS MMO, not a magic and sword MMO!
Assault means assault!!!As heavy means heavy!!!!
I beg CCP to consider this and try going with a gallente against any full proto from any other race, even an adv can woop yo ass.
Next time you get killed by a gallente just remember that youre going up against a slower oponent that has much less HP than you and recharges his HP slower,not to mention the fact that it is armor based and the shields are better against most weaponry except energy weapons, it also doesnt need 'repairers'.
Gallente players that score high are truelly skilled players, but if you notice, that is rare.
I used to be Caldari and i used to get 30 kills and i never died and that was with the type 2.
With the gallente proto i can get 20 kills max and that is against noobs in adv and std dropsuits.
Dont say its because every one is stronger now,i already took that into consideration, im not an idiot...
As for the update, i keep repeating myself, but thats mandatory at the moment, as the update will be out in the 29th.
Focus on what im going to say now...
Gallente assault should be treated as an assault, just because on eve the gallente are armor based ships, its just stupid to make an assault armor based, might as well start using a heavywith your duvolle, because as the word assault implies,we charge and conquer objectives, we are not defenders,we need mobility.
Its simply not fair.
Just make all assaults shield based regardless of their race, instead of coming up with ridiculous updates that literally just make me laugh.If youre gallente assault and you agree with me, post about it and make yourselves be heard!!!!
ITS NOT FAIR!
Together we will make CCP hear us and change DUST forever!

I read your post and the reason im posting before the update is OBVIOUSLY because i dont support the update, im totally against the update, its ridiulous.
We dont want more changes ,especially to shields and armor...
Most gallente will just run damage mods.
This update WILL create more problems and all gallente will end up going caldari anyway when they get a chance to respec...
I play a lot solo and test multiple load outs and i just stick to assault.
I always play with the same character.
I played as a caldari during beta, so I KNOW what im talking about.
You cant really test your theories if you go in a squad,i can go starter fit when im with a squad.
You need to first tesy it on the field and i have.
I thank you for your posts, but youre not really helping and just trying to prove me wrong, when you KNOW NOTHING about running a gallente assault in a 1 vs 1 battle against a caldari assault fast mover.
MOBILITY MOBILITY MOBILITY
WE DONT WANT YOUR STUPID UPDATE
WE DONT WANT MORE CHANGES
JUST 4 HIGH SLOTS ON GALLENTE
STOP MAKING PROBLEMS
SOLVE IT!

sir im going to have to ask you to calm down as im sure most of us if not all of us actually want this update to happen

why are you trying to use a suit for what its not intended for? doing that will only lead to sadness because it wont end well
its like jumping off a cliff and trying to use a pillowcase as a parachute it won't end well because that's not a pillowcases intended purpose a gallente suit does not need 4 high slots.

i know they state this game is a sandbox and you make unique fittings and such but you can't make everything out of sand
so it is a sandbox but to make a fitting that is going to use shields its a good idea to spec into the suit that is meant for shields or it won't end well.

picture four different sandbox's each contains a different type of sand meant to make a certain type of sandcastle
then someone decides to make a sandcastle with one sand that another sand is meant for he makes the
sandcastle then it falls to the ground the person who made the sandcastle is now disappointed
because his sandcastle crumbled
even though it was his fault because he should have used the other sand to make that sandcastle,

make sense?

Just in case some of you dont know,mobility affects how fast you can move your target reticle as well...

i am aware of that might i suggest when you're wearing a slower suit upping your sensitivity

MOBILITY MOBILITY MOBILITY
*I* DONT WANT YOUR STUPID UPDATE
*I* DONT WANT MORE CHANGES

JUST 4 HIGH SLOTS ON GALLENTE

Fixed that for you



Sir, put the crack pipe down. You have had enough. Spec caldari or minmatar and get out. Or learn how to armor tank.

*WE* do not want gallente assaults to be shieldtanked. *YOU* want gallente assaults to be shieldtanked.

I am an armor tanker by choice, and I rack up kills in gallente med/assault just fine thank you very much.

I do not have less HP, because with two defensive mods I have over 600 HP. Hooray maxed defense skills and armor skills.

We want armor tanking to be equal to shields, not for you to try and take us on your little Magic Carpet Ride of Crazy.

If you want shields, spec caldari or Minmatar Get the hell out. Gallente and Amarr are my preferred races to run because I enjoy the **** out of armor tanking.

You wanna know what I feel like? Hiere's a hint: I'm the ball.

Ok,thats your opinion, but you dont need to try to ridicularise me...
Its my opinion, and im entitled to one, and im trying to have it MY way!

mockery is an art form.

Armor tanking is MY way.

A lot of people pick gallente and amarr because we prefer armor fits and heavy buffer tank. It's a playstyle choice.

I love the feeling of being in a firefight with some idiot pouring it on, and having to reload to kill me. It's hilarious.

You can't do that with a shield tank.

No, what you're doing is arguing against a game mechanic that exists to promote diversity. Instead of respecting said game mechanic and adapting to the required play style or trying a different game mechanic, you want the developers to bend over backwards to what you want. Either spec into Caldari or Minmatar assault dropsuits or learn how to armor tank so that it can appease a play style you're looking for while still being armor. Whatever choice you make, be sure to grow up in the process.

your speed penalty is being cut in half and the turnspeed penalty for armor tankers is going away. rejoice and kill them.

Ok, that last line was uncalled for, its just a game and my maturity has nothing to do with this.
Stop hating!

I'm posting again about the gallente assault dropsuits because the update wont solve our dilema, if youre gallente you'll undestand, if not, dont even bother replying because i dont give 2 fucks what you think.

I can't believe that last sentence got through the censors.

You are to be commended, sir.


Munch

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You shouldnt be using that name, it insults me to see such an idiot using my Gods name!
Im of viking descent and im 35.

The OP converted into one nifty paragraph.

Zeffron is a better God than Thor since the question being what does a warrior fear more than power??

I'm posting again about the gallente assault dropsuits because the update wont solve our dilema, if youre gallente you'll undestand, if not, dont even bother replying because i dont give 2 fucks what you think.
First of all this update is reducing armor movement penalties and that doesnt solve the problem. I will still have to use armor repairers and because of that i wont be able to use more armor, so ill be weaker and slower, than a shield user, even after the update.
Dont give me that crap about gallente are meant to be armor,yall sound like 12 year olds that got told santa claus doesnt exist.
Its an FPS MMO, not a magic and sword MMO!
Assault means assault!!!As heavy means heavy!!!!
I beg CCP to consider this and try going with a gallente against any full proto from any other race, even an adv can woop yo ass.
Next time you get killed by a gallente just remember that youre going up against a slower oponent that has much less HP than you and recharges his HP slower,not to mention the fact that it is armor based and the shields are better against most weaponry except energy weapons, it also doesnt need 'repairers'.
Gallente players that score high are truelly skilled players, but if you notice, that is rare.
I used to be Caldari and i used to get 30 kills and i never died and that was with the type 2.
With the gallente proto i can get 20 kills max and that is against noobs in adv and std dropsuits.
Dont say its because every one is stronger now,i already took that into consideration, im not an idiot...
As for the update, i keep repeating myself, but thats mandatory at the moment, as the update will be out in the 29th.
Focus on what im going to say now...
Gallente assault should be treated as an assault, just because on eve the gallente are armor based ships, its just stupid to make an assault armor based, might as well start using a heavywith your duvolle, because as the word assault implies,we charge and conquer objectives, we are not defenders,we need mobility.
Its simply not fair.
Just make all assaults shield based regardless of their race, instead of coming up with ridiculous updates that literally just make me laugh.If youre gallente assault and you agree with me, post about it and make yourselves be heard!!!!
ITS NOT FAIR!
Together we will make CCP hear us and change DUST forever!

wow.., just wow at first I thought you had a decent thread that actually had meaning until you said that all assaults should shield tank. some people actually prefer to armor tank an assault even though shield tanking is currently better, its getting a buff in 1.4 and it'll possibly become more viable than shield tanking, besides a logi can rep armor during battle so an armor assault could (if theres a decent logi) be a better asset to the team.


oh, and also, I haven't read past OP.

LOL, i only insulted the people that insulted me and i apologised.

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But you're supposed to die!! And often!! No-one wants you to be invincible!! So you want to get more than 20 kills and no deaths?? Where the f*ck is the fun in that? That's why Superman is such a freaking boring super-hero, gimme Batman any day of the week cos he is vulnerable! There is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie!

But you're supposed to die!! And often!! No-one wants you to be invincible!! So you want to get more than 20 kills and no deaths?? Where the f*ck is the fun in that? That's why Superman is such a freaking boring super-hero, gimme Batman any day of the week cos he is vulnerable! There is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie!

Okay.


Fixed now, you happy?

I'm posting again about the gallente assault dropsuits because the update wont solve our dilema, if youre gallente you'll undestand, if not, dont even bother replying because i dont give 2 fucks what you think.
First of all this update is reducing armor movement penalties and that doesnt solve the problem. I will still have to use armor repairers and because of that i wont be able to use more armor, so ill be weaker and slower, than a shield user, even after the update.
Dont give me that crap about gallente are meant to be armor,yall sound like 12 year olds that got told santa claus doesnt exist.
Its an FPS MMO, not a magic and sword MMO!
Assault means assault!!!As heavy means heavy!!!!
I beg CCP to consider this and try going with a gallente against any full proto from any other race, even an adv can woop yo ass.
Next time you get killed by a gallente just remember that youre going up against a slower oponent that has much less HP than you and recharges his HP slower,not to mention the fact that it is armor based and the shields are better against most weaponry except energy weapons, it also doesnt need 'repairers'.
Gallente players that score high are truelly skilled players, but if you notice, that is rare.
I used to be Caldari and i used to get 30 kills and i never died and that was with the type 2.
With the gallente proto i can get 20 kills max and that is against noobs in adv and std dropsuits.
Dont say its because every one is stronger now,i already took that into consideration, im not an idiot...
As for the update, i keep repeating myself, but thats mandatory at the moment, as the update will be out in the 29th.
Focus on what im going to say now...
Gallente assault should be treated as an assault, just because on eve the gallente are armor based ships, its just stupid to make an assault armor based, might as well start using a heavywith your duvolle, because as the word assault implies,we charge and conquer objectives, we are not defenders,we need mobility.
Its simply not fair.
Just make all assaults shield based regardless of their race, instead of coming up with ridiculous updates that literally just make me laugh.If youre gallente assault and you agree with me, post about it and make yourselves be heard!!!!
ITS NOT FAIR!
Together we will make CCP hear us and change DUST forever!

I am calm, and yes it makes sense, but i still think using a gallente assault is like using a weak heavy as assault.
An assault should never be armor tanker...

I made a mistake i meant to say that assault should have the choice to be shield or armor.
Or the choice to be both.
We could have one loadout that was armor based and another shield based and play according to the battlefield.

Im having fun too,i just wish i had the mobility of a caldari assault, its my favorite playstyle...

Takes ages to spec into something else...

No it doesn't. I've already saved up enough SP to spec into Caldari assault in case if everyone's forum whining causes me to lose my logi hacking bonus.

Im having fun too,i just wish i had the mobility of a caldari assault, its my favorite playstyle...

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You get extra HP because you have a movement penalty. Shields get lower HP but no movement penalty. If you wanted the mobility of a caldari assault then maybe you should have BEEN a caldari assault rather than QQ about how you can't run fast after stacking armor plates.

then play as caldari. its your choice. or minmatar (my personal favourit race) they are only a little weaker but they have insane run and stafe speed. im gonna get one soon. join me and were gonna destroy those caldaari mainstream users

Good idea.
Ive been wanting to talk to you by the way.
I'll invite you to a chat,ok?

How much sp did it take to go proto caldari?

sure, we havent played for ages together :D send me a pm or give me a chatroom where i can find you :D

Sent you the chat invitation...

Thats exactly why i wanna talk to you

I know a lot of people who run Gallente assault, and they do great. Perhaps you just suck?

okay then, good way to remove more of the "live with you're choices" part of this game, gallente have specialized in advancing armor. just switch to cal assault and whine every time something can compare to you're power, you're good at it .

Including the level 3 medium suit it's 3,360,960 SP

I'm posting again about the gallente assault dropsuits because the update wont solve our dilema, if youre gallente you'll undestand, if not, dont even bother replying because i dont give 2 fucks what you think.
First of all this update is reducing armor movement penalties and that doesnt solve the problem. I will still have to use armor repairers and because of that i wont be able to use more armor, so ill be weaker and slower, than a shield user, even after the update.
Dont give me that crap about gallente are meant to be armor,yall sound like 12 year olds that got told santa claus doesnt exist.
Its an FPS MMO, not a magic and sword MMO!
Assault means assault!!!As heavy means heavy!!!!
I beg CCP to consider this and try going with a gallente against any full proto from any other race, even an adv can woop yo ass.
Next time you get killed by a gallente just remember that youre going up against a slower oponent that has much less HP than you and recharges his HP slower,not to mention the fact that it is armor based and the shields are better against most weaponry except energy weapons, it also doesnt need 'repairers'.
Gallente players that score high are truelly skilled players, but if you notice, that is rare.
I used to be Caldari and i used to get 30 kills and i never died and that was with the type 2.
With the gallente proto i can get 20 kills max and that is against noobs in adv and std dropsuits.
Dont say its because every one is stronger now,i already took that into consideration, im not an idiot...
As for the update, i keep repeating myself, but thats mandatory at the moment, as the update will be out in the 29th.
Focus on what im going to say now...
Gallente assault should be treated as an assault, just because on eve the gallente are armor based ships, its just stupid to make an assault armor based, might as well start using a heavywith your duvolle, because as the word assault implies,we charge and conquer objectives, we are not defenders,we need mobility.
Its simply not fair.
Just make all assaults shield based regardless of their race, instead of coming up with ridiculous updates that literally just make me laugh.If youre gallente assault and you agree with me, post about it and make yourselves be heard!!!!
ITS NOT FAIR!
Together we will make CCP hear us and change DUST forever!

Wait how do you have cpu n pg for all that?

I'm a Gallente Logi and I'm happy with this change. I'll gladly take the 8% movement penalty and stack Basic Armor plates with a Stamina enhancer, and just drop a Triage when I need to recover.

He skilled up the cpu and pg reduction skills?

OP your an idiot (no offense lol)

There are advantages to armour, compared to shield, such as no recharge delay and not being affected by flux. Everyone regardless of race, should run an armour repairer or an armour nanohive to regain their armour - so everyone is in the same boat.

Granted that there are more advantages to shield, but there is no way that being gallente compared to caldari limits your kills from 30 to 20.

Thank you, captain obvious.
Youre the idiot...
With the mobilty a caldari has, its easy to rack up kills...

With the mobility a scout has he must rack up kills eh?

You lost all credibility when you started crying about needing to equip an Armor Repair Module.

Shield tanking utilizes Shield Extenders, Shield Rechargers, and Shield Regulators. That's three different module types to armor's two. Stop crying.

Shields may regenerate quickly, but they don't regenerate a single point under fire. The only infantry shield repair tool in the game is attached to the Charybdis and only the smallest portion of the player base uses it. Armor repair modules function at a constant passive rate and stack with armor repair tools. You never stop healing. Stop crying.

Armor is getting buffed. Stop Crying.

If I was running around scoring 30/0 as a Caldari Assault, I probably wouldn't give any other suit a second thought. Either you intentionally gimped yourself or you're a liar. Stop crying.

Go ahead, talk more ****. I'm sure you're very intimidating. Oh, and stop ******* crying.

LMAO, whos crying buddy
Regeneration under fire is as useful as an ******* on your elbow lol
I bet you i get more kills than you even as gallente, you smurf hater lol
Son...just dont...

LMAO, whos crying buddy
Regeneration under fire is as useful as an ******* on your elbow lol
I bet you i get more kills than you even as gallente, you smurf hater lol
Son...just dont...

You lack the intelligence necessary to develop an informed opinion. Everything you say is irrelevant.

I just got killed 3 times in a row by a caldari assault fast mover with one melee hit...
And im proto gallente with 295 shields and 515 armor, and she was running an adv caldari, where is this fair?
Im not crying, im simply calling out every bad thing i find in this game, so dont hate...
CCP should make all proto suits more resistent to lower tier suits and guns, its just logic...Its 124 k each loadout.
Im simply trying to improve the game, dont assume i die a lot...
If i die twice i lose Money and i had 120 mil after uprising...
So i die 2 to none times each battle and that is going solo.
Not bragging.

I'm going to stop you right there Sky. Proto gear used to be much more powerful than advanced gear. It was so much more powerful that people in lower tier suits really needed to just run away from protos. CCP smartly shrunk the difference between gear tiers which makes it so a skilled player in lower tier gear can successfully challenge a player with better gear.

The idea of proto gear isn't that it is an 'I win button' against people running lower tier gear, it provides bonuses through increased fitting options and therefore increased damage/survivability. This does not mean though that you won't loose your suits. Proto gear is intended to be expensive to reduce players ability to use it constantly and still make a profit. Now while this isk mechanic is currently broken since many of us have so much isk the relatively flat tiers still make competition only slightly titled in favor of the proto gear.

Now that all of that is said I feel like I should point out to you that there are some bugs with the melee system that people are exploiting. People have found that by hitting the sprint button right after the melee button they can reset the animation but still do full melee damage. The upside of this for them is that they can, at the expense of stamina, do 4 or more melee attacks in a matter of seconds. Add in some modules that boost stamina and melee damage and you can easily out damage any gun in the game for raw dps. I'm talking about 600+ damage for three rapid fire hits, and more if you can get more to land (though often they use some of their stamina sprinting at you).

Whihle I don't know the exact situation surrounding your death I suspect that you were already damaged and that you let the opponent close with you thinking you could kill them long before they punched you to death. Well since the tiers are relatively flat (advanced is almost as good as proto remember) and this person may have been exploiting a bug, you got whomped.

Don't feel bad. Happens to all of us. Just remember to run with the kid gloves on when you have your proto gear out. Oh, and don't run solo, group up with people as this will vastly increase your ability to kill/survive.