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Bittersteel the Bastard
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.21 00:09:00 -
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Sky Dovahkiin wrote:Wait how do you have cpu n pg for all that? He skilled up the cpu and pg reduction skills? |
postmanclark2
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
11
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Posted - 2013.08.21 00:24:00 -
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OP your an idiot (no offense lol)
There are advantages to armour, compared to shield, such as no recharge delay and not being affected by flux. Everyone regardless of race, should run an armour repairer or an armour nanohive to regain their armour - so everyone is in the same boat.
Granted that there are more advantages to shield, but there is no way that being gallente compared to caldari limits your kills from 30 to 20. |
Faquira Bleuetta
Pure Innocence. EoN.
68
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Posted - 2013.08.21 00:28:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:I'm a Gallente Logi and I'm happy with this change. I'll gladly take the 8% movement penalty and stack Basic Armor plates with a Stamina enhancer, and just drop a Triage when I need to recover.
triage sux if someone threw a nade u no have a triage and its consume too much cpu pg |
Sky Dovahkiin
WAR LIONS
11
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Posted - 2013.08.21 00:36:00 -
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Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:Sky Dovahkiin wrote:Wait how do you have cpu n pg for all that? He skilled up the cpu and pg reduction skills?
Good point, thanks.
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Sky Dovahkiin
WAR LIONS
11
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Posted - 2013.08.21 00:38:00 -
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postmanclark2 wrote:OP your an idiot (no offense lol)
There are advantages to armour, compared to shield, such as no recharge delay and not being affected by flux. Everyone regardless of race, should run an armour repairer or an armour nanohive to regain their armour - so everyone is in the same boat.
Granted that there are more advantages to shield, but there is no way that being gallente compared to caldari limits your kills from 30 to 20.
Thank you, captain obvious. Youre the idiot... With the mobilty a caldari has, its easy to rack up kills...
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Bittersteel the Bastard
WarRavens League of Infamy
170
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Posted - 2013.08.21 00:42:00 -
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Sky Dovahkiin wrote:postmanclark2 wrote:OP your an idiot (no offense lol)
There are advantages to armour, compared to shield, such as no recharge delay and not being affected by flux. Everyone regardless of race, should run an armour repairer or an armour nanohive to regain their armour - so everyone is in the same boat.
Granted that there are more advantages to shield, but there is no way that being gallente compared to caldari limits your kills from 30 to 20. Thank you, captain obvious. Youre the idiot... With the mobilty a caldari has, its easy to rack up kills...
With the mobility a scout has he must rack up kills eh? |
Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
213
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Posted - 2013.08.21 01:21:00 -
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Well this thread spiraled out of control very quickly, we had some meaningful discussion in there but it got lost in all the rants and name calling.
I'll say this, as an assault the advantage leans towards Caldari just from the bonuses. Now as a Logi it's pretty close but slight advantage towards armor just from the bonus to armor rep and can take advantage of equipment. Heavies are still armor focused. Scouts probably lean toward shields but death comes easy no matter what you use.
Now advantage does not mean instant win... just too many other variables to consider. |
Sky Dovahkiin
WAR LIONS
11
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Posted - 2013.08.21 01:41:00 -
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Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:Sky Dovahkiin wrote:postmanclark2 wrote:OP your an idiot (no offense lol)
There are advantages to armour, compared to shield, such as no recharge delay and not being affected by flux. Everyone regardless of race, should run an armour repairer or an armour nanohive to regain their armour - so everyone is in the same boat.
Granted that there are more advantages to shield, but there is no way that being gallente compared to caldari limits your kills from 30 to 20. Thank you, captain obvious. Youre the idiot... With the mobilty a caldari has, its easy to rack up kills... With the mobility a scout has he must rack up kills eh?
Hes not assault... Stop being a hater... Stop wasting my time... |
Faquira Bleuetta
Pure Innocence. EoN.
68
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Posted - 2013.08.21 01:46:00 -
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when ur own corpmate dont care about repping u bcuz u are the few who use gallent assault they dont give a damm soo u die often in serious pc Battle |
Ren Ratner
Infinite Raiders
70
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Posted - 2013.08.21 02:02:00 -
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You lost all credibility when you started crying about needing to equip an Armor Repair Module.
Shield tanking utilizes Shield Extenders, Shield Rechargers, and Shield Regulators. That's three different module types to armor's two. Stop crying.
Shields may regenerate quickly, but they don't regenerate a single point under fire. The only infantry shield repair tool in the game is attached to the Charybdis and only the smallest portion of the player base uses it. Armor repair modules function at a constant passive rate and stack with armor repair tools. You never stop healing. Stop crying.
Armor is getting buffed. Stop Crying.
If I was running around scoring 30/0 as a Caldari Assault, I probably wouldn't give any other suit a second thought. Either you intentionally gimped yourself or you're a liar. Stop crying.
Go ahead, talk more ****. I'm sure you're very intimidating. Oh, and stop ******* crying. |
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Sky Dovahkiin
WAR LIONS
11
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Posted - 2013.08.21 02:07:00 -
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Ren Ratner wrote:You lost all credibility when you started crying about needing to equip an Armor Repair Module.
Shield tanking utilizes Shield Extenders, Shield Rechargers, and Shield Regulators. That's three different module types to armor's two. Stop crying.
Shields may regenerate quickly, but they don't regenerate a single point under fire. The only infantry shield repair tool in the game is attached to the Charybdis and only the smallest portion of the player base uses it. Armor repair modules function at a constant passive rate and stack with armor repair tools. You never stop healing. Stop crying.
Armor is getting buffed. Stop Crying.
If I was running around scoring 30/0 as a Caldari Assault, I probably wouldn't give any other suit a second thought. Either you intentionally gimped yourself or you're a liar. Stop crying.
Go ahead, talk more ****. I'm sure you're very intimidating. Oh, and stop ******* crying.
LMAO, whos crying buddy Regeneration under fire is as useful as an ******* on your elbow lol I bet you i get more kills than you even as gallente, you smurf hater lol Son...just dont... |
Ren Ratner
Infinite Raiders
70
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Posted - 2013.08.21 03:14:00 -
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Sky Dovahkiin wrote:Ren Ratner wrote:You lost all credibility when you started crying about needing to equip an Armor Repair Module.
Shield tanking utilizes Shield Extenders, Shield Rechargers, and Shield Regulators. That's three different module types to armor's two. Stop crying.
Shields may regenerate quickly, but they don't regenerate a single point under fire. The only infantry shield repair tool in the game is attached to the Charybdis and only the smallest portion of the player base uses it. Armor repair modules function at a constant passive rate and stack with armor repair tools. You never stop healing. Stop crying.
Armor is getting buffed. Stop Crying.
If I was running around scoring 30/0 as a Caldari Assault, I probably wouldn't give any other suit a second thought. Either you intentionally gimped yourself or you're a liar. Stop crying.
Go ahead, talk more ****. I'm sure you're very intimidating. Oh, and stop ******* crying. LMAO, whos crying buddy Regeneration under fire is as useful as an ******* on your elbow lol I bet you i get more kills than you even as gallente, you smurf hater lol Son...just dont...
You lack the intelligence necessary to develop an informed opinion. Everything you say is irrelevant. |
Blaze Ashra
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.08.21 03:43:00 -
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Sky Dovahkiin wrote:Ren Ratner wrote:You lost all credibility when you started crying about needing to equip an Armor Repair Module.
Shield tanking utilizes Shield Extenders, Shield Rechargers, and Shield Regulators. That's three different module types to armor's two. Stop crying.
Shields may regenerate quickly, but they don't regenerate a single point under fire. The only infantry shield repair tool in the game is attached to the Charybdis and only the smallest portion of the player base uses it. Armor repair modules function at a constant passive rate and stack with armor repair tools. You never stop healing. Stop crying.
Armor is getting buffed. Stop Crying.
If I was running around scoring 30/0 as a Caldari Assault, I probably wouldn't give any other suit a second thought. Either you intentionally gimped yourself or you're a liar. Stop crying.
Go ahead, talk more ****. I'm sure you're very intimidating. Oh, and stop ******* crying. LMAO, whos crying buddy Regeneration under fire is as useful as an ******* on your elbow lol I bet you i get more kills than you even as gallente, you smurf hater lol Son...just dont...
Armor reppers are awesome. I don't know what your problem is with them but I like entering combat with full armor and shields if I can help it. If you don't want to armor tank then don't. You can fit kin cats, profile dampeners, cardio enhancers or ferroscale plates to avoid the speed penalty. |
Sky Dovahkiin
WAR LIONS
11
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Posted - 2013.08.21 12:05:00 -
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Ren Ratner wrote:Sky Dovahkiin wrote:Ren Ratner wrote:You lost all credibility when you started crying about needing to equip an Armor Repair Module.
Shield tanking utilizes Shield Extenders, Shield Rechargers, and Shield Regulators. That's three different module types to armor's two. Stop crying.
Shields may regenerate quickly, but they don't regenerate a single point under fire. The only infantry shield repair tool in the game is attached to the Charybdis and only the smallest portion of the player base uses it. Armor repair modules function at a constant passive rate and stack with armor repair tools. You never stop healing. Stop crying.
Armor is getting buffed. Stop Crying.
If I was running around scoring 30/0 as a Caldari Assault, I probably wouldn't give any other suit a second thought. Either you intentionally gimped yourself or you're a liar. Stop crying.
Go ahead, talk more ****. I'm sure you're very intimidating. Oh, and stop ******* crying. LMAO, whos crying buddy Regeneration under fire is as useful as an ******* on your elbow lol I bet you i get more kills than you even as gallente, you smurf hater lol Son...just dont... You lack the intelligence necessary to develop an informed opinion. Everything you say is irrelevant.
Just stop being a hater,its not my fault you cant get more than 5 kills lol |
Sky Dovahkiin
WAR LIONS
11
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Posted - 2013.08.21 12:10:00 -
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I have a diferent idea then... What about all assault having the same. 4 high slots and 4 low slots? That would give everyone regardless of their race the choice to be armor based or shield based. Dont hate, its a just a sugestion to make the fight better for all races. |
Sky Dovahkiin
WAR LIONS
11
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Posted - 2013.08.21 12:40:00 -
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I just got killed 3 times in a row by a caldari assault fast mover with one melee hit... And im proto gallente with 295 shields and 515 armor, and she was running an adv caldari, where is this fair? Im not crying, im simply calling out every bad thing i find in this game, so dont hate... CCP should make all proto suits more resistent to lower tier suits and guns, its just logic...Its 124 k each loadout. Im simply trying to improve the game, dont assume i die a lot... If i die twice i lose Money and i had 120 mil after uprising... So i die 2 to none times each battle and that is going solo. Not bragging. |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
638
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Posted - 2013.08.21 13:06:00 -
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Sky Dovahkiin wrote:I just got killed 3 times in a row by a caldari assault fast mover with one melee hit... And im proto gallente with 295 shields and 515 armor, and she was running an adv caldari, where is this fair? Im not crying, im simply calling out every bad thing i find in this game, so dont hate... CCP should make all proto suits more resistent to lower tier suits and guns, its just logic...Its 124 k each loadout. Im simply trying to improve the game, dont assume i die a lot... If i die twice i lose Money and i had 120 mil after uprising... So i die 2 to none times each battle and that is going solo. Not bragging.
I'm going to stop you right there Sky. Proto gear used to be much more powerful than advanced gear. It was so much more powerful that people in lower tier suits really needed to just run away from protos. CCP smartly shrunk the difference between gear tiers which makes it so a skilled player in lower tier gear can successfully challenge a player with better gear.
The idea of proto gear isn't that it is an 'I win button' against people running lower tier gear, it provides bonuses through increased fitting options and therefore increased damage/survivability. This does not mean though that you won't loose your suits. Proto gear is intended to be expensive to reduce players ability to use it constantly and still make a profit. Now while this isk mechanic is currently broken since many of us have so much isk the relatively flat tiers still make competition only slightly titled in favor of the proto gear.
Now that all of that is said I feel like I should point out to you that there are some bugs with the melee system that people are exploiting. People have found that by hitting the sprint button right after the melee button they can reset the animation but still do full melee damage. The upside of this for them is that they can, at the expense of stamina, do 4 or more melee attacks in a matter of seconds. Add in some modules that boost stamina and melee damage and you can easily out damage any gun in the game for raw dps. I'm talking about 600+ damage for three rapid fire hits, and more if you can get more to land (though often they use some of their stamina sprinting at you).
Whihle I don't know the exact situation surrounding your death I suspect that you were already damaged and that you let the opponent close with you thinking you could kill them long before they punched you to death. Well since the tiers are relatively flat (advanced is almost as good as proto remember) and this person may have been exploiting a bug, you got whomped.
Don't feel bad. Happens to all of us. Just remember to run with the kid gloves on when you have your proto gear out. Oh, and don't run solo, group up with people as this will vastly increase your ability to kill/survive. |
Sky Dovahkiin
WAR LIONS
11
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Posted - 2013.08.21 13:49:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:Sky Dovahkiin wrote:I just got killed 3 times in a row by a caldari assault fast mover with one melee hit... And im proto gallente with 295 shields and 515 armor, and she was running an adv caldari, where is this fair? Im not crying, im simply calling out every bad thing i find in this game, so dont hate... CCP should make all proto suits more resistent to lower tier suits and guns, its just logic...Its 124 k each loadout. Im simply trying to improve the game, dont assume i die a lot... If i die twice i lose Money and i had 120 mil after uprising... So i die 2 to none times each battle and that is going solo. Not bragging. I'm going to stop you right there Sky. Proto gear used to be much more powerful than advanced gear. It was so much more powerful that people in lower tier suits really needed to just run away from protos. CCP smartly shrunk the difference between gear tiers which makes it so a skilled player in lower tier gear can successfully challenge a player with better gear. The idea of proto gear isn't that it is an 'I win button' against people running lower tier gear, it provides bonuses through increased fitting options and therefore increased damage/survivability. This does not mean though that you won't loose your suits. Proto gear is intended to be expensive to reduce players ability to use it constantly and still make a profit. Now while this isk mechanic is currently broken since many of us have so much isk the relatively flat tiers still make competition only slightly titled in favor of the proto gear. Now that all of that is said I feel like I should point out to you that there are some bugs with the melee system that people are exploiting. People have found that by hitting the sprint button right after the melee button they can reset the animation but still do full melee damage. The upside of this for them is that they can, at the expense of stamina, do 4 or more melee attacks in a matter of seconds. Add in some modules that boost stamina and melee damage and you can easily out damage any gun in the game for raw dps. I'm talking about 600+ damage for three rapid fire hits, and more if you can get more to land (though often they use some of their stamina sprinting at you). Whihle I don't know the exact situation surrounding your death I suspect that you were already damaged and that you let the opponent close with you thinking you could kill them long before they punched you to death. Well since the tiers are relatively flat (advanced is almost as good as proto remember) and this person may have been exploiting a bug, you got whomped. Don't feel bad. Happens to all of us. Just remember to run with the kid gloves on when you have your proto gear out. Oh, and don't run solo, group up with people as this will vastly increase your ability to kill/survive.
Great post, thank you very much. You're right about everything, but they could at least reduce the melee damage, she got me with one elbow strike, 3 times ,i even saw her running up to my team mates and killing more than one with one melee hit and they couldnt kill her in time, she was way to fast and melee them on their flank, so countering with a melee didnt work. We all had full HP,she had a shotgun and never even used it. And we were in a group. Her name is Arariana,if you wanna see for yourself ,just get her in your squad. |
Sky Dovahkiin
WAR LIONS
11
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Posted - 2013.08.21 15:58:00 -
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Or CCP should try to fix that meele glitch. |
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