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Coleman Gray GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 471	Posted - 2013.08.20 13:27:00 - [91] - Quote Why do you need to take armor repairs?
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1146	Posted - 2013.08.20 13:32:00 - [92] - Quote Coleman Gray wrote: Why do you need to take armor repairs? No passive armor repair and logistics don't constantly repair you.
Lt Royal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 715	Posted - 2013.08.20 13:36:00 - [93] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: Why do you need to take armor repairs? No passive armor repair and logistics don't constantly repair you. He was getting 50 - 60 kills per match. He shouldn't be needing repps at all, let alone getting hit once!
Coleman Gray GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 472	Posted - 2013.08.20 13:43:00 - [94] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: Why do you need to take armor repairs? No passive armor repair and logistics don't constantly repair you. I do agree logistics people need to use their role more for what it was meant to be for
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1148	Posted - 2013.08.20 13:51:00 - [95] - Quote Coleman Gray wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: Why do you need to take armor repairs? No passive armor repair and logistics don't constantly repair you. I do agree logistics people need to use their role more for what it was meant to be for Logistics role isn't necessarily a medic role, regardless those of us who use a repair tool cannot constantly rep you because it isn't possible and it isn't smart.
Sky Dovahkiin WAR LIONS 8	Posted - 2013.08.20 13:54:00 - [96] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: Sky Dovahkiin wrote: I just didnt think you were worth my time... And i know exactly what im talking about. I can get more kills than you playing solo on a bad day...let alone with my squad.... Youre the one who doesnt know what hes talking about, if you use 3 armor reps, your shields will still charge faster... Not to mention they dont need reps, if you think getting 20 kills is doing good, well ok, good for you, but i dont want to be good i want to be great...60 kills is what im aiming for...and if i was caldari i would have at least 50 kills a match... I really couldn't care less if you can get more kills than me or not; we weren't even talking about that! Are you that stuck up or is there something wrong with you? Stop moaning all across the forums about how much you suck, no one cares. All weGÇÖre trying to do is help you out, but if you don't want our help, why then proceed to give smack to everyone? You sir are a hopeless cause and a waste of time. Good luck to you and your GÇ£respecGÇ¥ and IGÇÖll try my best to stay away from your stupid thread posting in the future. Come on now, its just a game and im trying to improve it... Im sorry if i sounded disrespectful, wasnt my intention.
Bulletmonkey50 Fallen Disciples The Minmatar Evolutionares 12	Posted - 2013.08.20 13:59:00 - [97] - Quote I've never encountered a poster that made me this frustrated haha. i think the problem is your stubborn. sure you might not get same kills, oh well, you can maintain your kd, just don't die a lot. and if you cant cause you say your gallente, switch up your play style EDIT: so i just checked your stats, if you get 50 to 60 kills a game you must die a lot, cause you have a kd of 1.18
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3053	Posted - 2013.08.20 14:16:00 - [98] - Quote I don't think you understand how armor is meant to be used- Armor tanks are frontliners- they're in the pack, where other people can repair them.
Sky Dovahkiin WAR LIONS 8	Posted - 2013.08.20 14:23:00 - [99] - Quote Bulletmonkey50 wrote: I've never encountered a poster that made me this frustrated haha. i think the problem is your stubborn. sure you might not get same kills, oh well, you can maintain your kd, just don't die a lot. and if you cant cause you say your gallente, switch up your play style EDIT: so i just checked your stats, if you get 50 to 60 kills a game you must die a lot, cause you have a kd of 1.18 I never said i get 50 kills ,but i did get 40 when i was caldari... I said i wanted to get 60 kills a match and i have friends who run caldari and still get 60 kills a match. I got a bad kd because i was using starter fits for 3 months and gallente suits suck... I do have 10 000 kills though, what about you?
Sky Dovahkiin WAR LIONS 8	Posted - 2013.08.20 14:30:00 - [100] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I don't think you understand how armor is meant to be used- Armor tanks are frontliners- they're in the pack, where other people can repair them. I understand it just fine, but thats all very pretty in theory...in a battlefield, mobility is everything for an assault, just remember the last time you killed a heavy. Well a gallente assault IS AS SLOW AS A HEAVY when he strafes using armor... Might as well play with a heavy with a Duvolle.

Bulletmonkey50 Fallen Disciples The Minmatar Evolutionares 12	Posted - 2013.08.20 14:33:00 - [101] - Quote Sky Dovahkiin wrote: and if i was caldari i would have at least 50 kills a match... so yeah, you just sorta lied there, you said at least 50 a match haha. and you have 9000 kills. if your that good you should be able to get some kills, and im gonna assume your kd was quite high if you got that many kills, so you have to get A LOT of deaths for that to get to a 1.18 haha. and Gallente don't suck, i wish i was gallente. real men hull tank, but we don't have hull, sooo real men Armour tank! haha. i have only 8000 or 8500 kills, but im logi, so kills arn't important to me. and i have a better kd cause i role with my corp. you should try rolling with your corp, jack your Armour and find a nice logi. besides, if you have complex reps you can put two of those on, get a passive of like, 12.5 a second, and that can make a difference in a gunfight. i have a rep of 2 and it saves my life all the time
Sky Dovahkiin WAR LIONS 8	Posted - 2013.08.20 14:36:00 - [102] - Quote Bulletmonkey50 wrote: Sky Dovahkiin wrote: and if i was caldari i would have at least 50 kills a match... so yeah, you just sorta lied there, you said at least 50 a match haha. and you have 9000 kills. if your that good you should be able to get some kills, and im gonna assume your kd was quite high if you got that many kills, so you have to get A LOT of deaths for that to get to a 1.18 haha. and Gallente don't suck, i wish i was gallente. real men hull tank, but we don't have hull, sooo real men Armour tank! haha. i have only 8000 or 8500 kills, but im logi, so kills arn't important to me. and i have a better kd cause i role with my corp. you should try rolling with your corp, jack your Armour and find a nice logi. besides, if you have complex reps you can put two of those on, get a passive of like, 12.5 a second, and that can make a difference in a gunfight. i have a rep of 2 and it saves my life all the time IF I WAS CALDARI NOW!!!
Bulletmonkey50 Fallen Disciples The Minmatar Evolutionares 12	Posted - 2013.08.20 14:40:00 - [103] - Quote Sky Dovahkiin wrote: Bulletmonkey50 wrote: Sky Dovahkiin wrote: and if i was caldari i would have at least 50 kills a match... so yeah, you just sorta lied there, you said at least 50 a match haha. and you have 9000 kills. if your that good you should be able to get some kills, and im gonna assume your kd was quite high if you got that many kills, so you have to get A LOT of deaths for that to get to a 1.18 haha. and Gallente don't suck, i wish i was gallente. real men hull tank, but we don't have hull, sooo real men Armour tank! haha. i have only 8000 or 8500 kills, but im logi, so kills arn't important to me. and i have a better kd cause i role with my corp. you should try rolling with your corp, jack your Armour and find a nice logi. besides, if you have complex reps you can put two of those on, get a passive of like, 12.5 a second, and that can make a difference in a gunfight. i have a rep of 2 and it saves my life all the time IF I WAS CALDARI NOW!!! never said 'now' in that post. just try what i suggested, or what the other competent people suggest you to do. maybe youll get more kills
Sky Dovahkiin WAR LIONS 8	Posted - 2013.08.20 14:41:00 - [104] - Quote Bulletmonkey50 wrote: Sky Dovahkiin wrote: and if i was caldari i would have at least 50 kills a match... so yeah, you just sorta lied there, you said at least 50 a match haha. and you have 9000 kills. if your that good you should be able to get some kills, and im gonna assume your kd was quite high if you got that many kills, so you have to get A LOT of deaths for that to get to a 1.18 haha. and Gallente don't suck, i wish i was gallente. real men hull tank, but we don't have hull, sooo real men Armour tank! haha. i have only 8000 or 8500 kills, but im logi, so kills arn't important to me. and i have a better kd cause i role with my corp. you should try rolling with your corp, jack your Armour and find a nice logi. besides, if you have complex reps you can put two of those on, get a passive of like, 12.5 a second, and that can make a difference in a gunfight. i have a rep of 2 and it saves my life all the time Youre calling me a liar and an idiot and stating the obvious... And i have 9120 kills on this character and some on my alt, so its around 10 000. I NEVER lie.
Bulletmonkey50 Fallen Disciples The Minmatar Evolutionares 12	Posted - 2013.08.20 14:44:00 - [105] - Quote yeah i did call you a liar, cause of conflicting information you gave us. never is a strong word
Sky Dovahkiin WAR LIONS 8	Posted - 2013.08.20 14:52:00 - [106] - Quote Bulletmonkey50 wrote: yeah i did call you a liar, cause of conflicting information you gave us. never is a strong word Dude whatever, dont deviate from the subject. Which is GALLENTE ASSAULT ARE WEAK HEAVIES AND CCP MADE A MISTAKE!!!!
Sky Dovahkiin WAR LIONS 8	Posted - 2013.08.20 14:54:00 - [107] - Quote Bulletmonkey50 wrote: Sky Dovahkiin wrote: Bulletmonkey50 wrote: Sky Dovahkiin wrote: and if i was caldari i would have at least 50 kills a match... so yeah, you just sorta lied there, you said at least 50 a match haha. and you have 9000 kills. if your that good you should be able to get some kills, and im gonna assume your kd was quite high if you got that many kills, so you have to get A LOT of deaths for that to get to a 1.18 haha. and Gallente don't suck, i wish i was gallente. real men hull tank, but we don't have hull, sooo real men Armour tank! haha. i have only 8000 or 8500 kills, but im logi, so kills arn't important to me. and i have a better kd cause i role with my corp. you should try rolling with your corp, jack your Armour and find a nice logi. besides, if you have complex reps you can put two of those on, get a passive of like, 12.5 a second, and that can make a difference in a gunfight. i have a rep of 2 and it saves my life all the time IF I WAS CALDARI NOW!!! never said 'now' in that post. just try what i suggested, or what the other competent people suggest you to do. maybe youll get more kills I used the verb WAS, you stupid f u c k!!
Bulletmonkey50 Fallen Disciples The Minmatar Evolutionares 12	Posted - 2013.08.20 15:00:00 - [108] - Quote ok i think im just gonna leave the thread. i guess im not as smart as the other posters that realized you're a waste of time mush earlier than i did. an assault is a weak heavy? great! you want it stronger? go heavy. and CCP has made mistakes before, but i doubt what you talking about is a mistake, good Gallente wreak me all the time. they can get to 900 health, and if that's not enough for you, well too bad, that's some what the limit so you cant be over powered. and no need to call me letters... oh wait that spells something. oh geez, your so mean!
Guildo Crow ZionTCD 91	Posted - 2013.08.20 15:09:00 - [109] - Quote Meh, who needs crazy tank when you've got Damage mods. Gallente Assault is fine by me. Although the new Reactive armor plates still suck. Remember the best tank is still a crate or a wall coupled with good aiming and headshots. I don't care if someone's ehp is 900+; they're going to be dead anyways, because I've got better gun game, and damage mods coupled with medium tank.
zzZaXxx The Exemplars Top Men. 191	Posted - 2013.08.20 15:27:00 - [110] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: Gallente assaults could use a bonus to Armor rep instead of shield. Who puts a shield bonus on a armor tanked suit? 1.4 will do a LOT for gallente, and amarr, but the assault will still lack because it has a crappy bonus. I'm 100% sure they'll change the bonuses for Gallente Assault. Hopefully that will make a big difference, but armor repairers need a tweak and we need a high slot armor mod.

Sky Dovahkiin WAR LIONS 8	Posted - 2013.08.20 15:35:00 - [111] - Quote Bulletmonkey50 wrote: ok i think im just gonna leave the thread. i guess im not as smart as the other posters that realized you're a waste of time mush earlier than i did. an assault is a weak heavy? great! you want it stronger? go heavy. and CCP has made mistakes before, but i doubt what you talking about is a mistake, good Gallente wreak me all the time. they can get to 900 health, and if that's not enough for you, well too bad, that's some what the limit so you cant be over powered. and no need to call me letters... oh wait that spells something. oh geez, your so mean! LOL, i meant it in a funny way, sorry
Guildo Crow ZionTCD 92	Posted - 2013.08.20 15:53:00 - [112] - Quote Also, Does any other Gallente assault besides me actually mind that Shield Buff? I use my shields as a buffer to help me peek around corners or assess a situation quickly; it helps to have a fast regen pool of health in those spots. Not to mention the mind game you can play with people, when they think you're at 50% health when your shields are gone, when in reality you've got plenty of armor left to take out anyone that's blindly charging you in an attempt to get a kill.
Sky Dovahkiin WAR LIONS 8	Posted - 2013.08.20 16:08:00 - [113] - Quote Guildo Crow wrote: Also, Does any other Gallente assault besides me actually mind that Shield Buff? I use my shields as a buffer to help me peek around corners or assess a situation quickly; it helps to have a fast regen pool of health in those spots. Not to mention the mind game you can play with people, when they think you're at 50% health when your shields are gone, when in reality you've got plenty of armor left to take out anyone that's blindly charging you in an attempt to get a kill. If you mean the shield buff that they are going to make after that ridiculous 1.4 update, yes, i do mind A LOT. That update is NOT a real solution, its only going to generate more problems... The only problems i find in this game are the fact that gallente assault suits have no mobility(armor tankers) and the lag, and the i already posted a solution to both those problems.
Sky Dovahkiin WAR LIONS 8	Posted - 2013.08.20 16:19:00 - [114] - Quote This is an FPS people, not a magic mmo, most people keep saying that gallente are armor tankers but those people arent even gallente assault and love the fact that we are slower! The BEST solution is to make the gallente assault have 4 high slots.PERIOD!!! And if youre thinking those damage mods will make a difference youre wrong, a Caldari assault will dodge your damage modded fire and get his shields recharged while hes dancing in your FACE and laughing. And before you say, run with your squad, you must first thing one vs one... And 1 on 1 the caldari can dodge and the gallente cant...Do the math! Gallente assault should be just that, assault...We are not heavies! A bishop in a chess board does not move like a roque!
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws 717	Posted - 2013.08.20 16:22:00 - [115] - Quote Minnie Assault posting in gallente assault. Neee-nerrr neee-nerrrr neee-nerrrr.
Sky Dovahkiin WAR LIONS 8	Posted - 2013.08.20 16:23:00 - [116] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Minnie Assault posting in gallente assault. Neee-nerrr neee-nerrrr neee-nerrrr. LOL
Crimson Judgment ROGUE SPADES EoN. 86	Posted - 2013.08.20 17:11:00 - [117] - Quote Ok im not a gallente assault and i don't even care for reading every post in this thread before commenting. however i have to bring up the part of your post which states. -Dont give me that crap about gallente are meant to be armor,- then you go and say -Next time you get killed by a gallente just remember that youre going up against a slower opponent that has much less HP than you and recharges his HP slower, not to mention the fact that it is armor based and the shields are better against most weaponry except energy weapons, it also doesnt need 'repairers'. not only that but there are more problems with the latter such as -opponent that has much less HP with the buff armor plates will have the following stats -basic armor plates +85 armor (max skills +93.5armor) with a -2% movement penalty. -enhanced armor plates +110 armor (max skills +121 armor) with a -3% movement penalty. -complex armor plates +135 armor (max skills +148.5 armor) with a -5% movement penalty. -basic ferroscale plates +35 armor (max skills +38.5 armor) no movement penalty. -enhanced ferroscale plates +50 armor (max skills +55 armor) no movement penalty. -complex ferroscale plates +75 armor (max skills +82.5 armor) no movement penalty. - basic reactive plates +25 armor (max skills +27.5 armor) -0% movement penalty. +1 armor repair P/S -enhanced reactive plates +40 armor (with max skills +44 armor) -1% movement penalty. +1 armor repair P/S complex reactive plates +60 armor (with max skills +66 armor) -1% movement penalty. +2 armor repair P/S now for shields -basic shield extender +22 shields (max skills i haven't done the math) -enhanced shield extender +33 shields (max skills i haven't done the math) -complex shield extenders +66 shields (max skills i haven't done the math) so armor does not have much less health they actually have much more health and "shields don't need repairs" well this is true but reactive plates give the same/more health then shield extenders and repair your armor . not to mention that armor still repairs while your under fire as shields do not and they have a delay before they begin to recharge as armor repairs indefinitely and armor still has the option to be repaired whilst also recovering by itself. and if you don't want to be slower use reactive plates you'll be just as fast as shields with more health or if you want to heal and be fast you can use a basic reactive plate as it repairs you and has no movement penalty. so no this is not a fail buff this is a wonderful buff and CCP is trying they're hardest to please you people but to no avail because you want to be the new FOTM because if you see this as a fail buff you clearly seek not balance but you seek to be the powerhouse of the battlefield the end all be all of everything there ever was. and remember CCP has stated that if the buff was not enough they would add a downside to shields CCP is trying their hardest to appease you but you just keep saying not good enough we want more we need more . conclusion please just be quite until the blasted update has arrived and if its not enough and you have a solid argument on why it isn't then tell CCP and if they see fit they will make adjustments if anyone bothered to read this thank you for listening my thoughts on the subject at hand and i am Sincerely sorry for the long post
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. League of Infamy 627	Posted - 2013.08.20 17:21:00 - [118] - Quote Wait a minute, you're still complaining that many people who have posted replies to your thread are not Gallente Assault users but quite a few of us are. We all understand that you are quite hurt by your lack of ability with the suit you've chosen to run but your constant complaining about it, and complete failure to deeply read the advice of others, is not helping. Contained in this thread are numerous posts about how to successfully set up a strong Gallente Assault suit. Maybe you should test out actually armor tanking your suit as has been suggested. You'll find that you are much more successful than you are currently with your shield tanking. The Gallente Assault suit really is designed for armor tanking. You don't get that many low slots just to shield tank after all. Oh and Dust514 is a MMORPG/FPS. Yes, the game in its current incarnation heavily features the FPS elements but CCP has stated that they intend to merge us more with EVE and with this change will come more RPG elements. I will never argue that this is a sword and sorcery RPG but it is clearly a Sci-fi one and as such has it s own lore. Gallente as armor tankers is part of that lore. Please make sure you actually understand what you are taking about before going on one of your personal attack binges then trying to pass it off as a joke; abuse isn't funny.
Cosgar ParagonX 4428	Posted - 2013.08.20 17:23:00 - [119] - Quote I'm thoroughly convinced that the OP is a very good troll because nobody can be this stupid and stubborn when proven wrong.
Everything Dies Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 16	Posted - 2013.08.20 17:25:00 - [120] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: Gallente assaults could use a bonus to Armor rep instead of shield. Who puts a shield bonus on a armor tanked suit? 1.4 will do a LOT for gallente, and amarr, but the assault will still lack because it has a crappy bonus. BINGO. I'm currently using a basic/poto suit for this character, but my alt just unlocked the assault/adv suit--yeah, the shield recharge is nice and all...but I really wanted the Logi bonus of the HP/sec repair. I just didn't care for the stats of the Logi suit, so I'm trying to figure out a way to maximize the assault suit. The extra HP and reduction to movement penalties will be nice, but it doesn't change the fact that the assault bonus doesn't make much sense currently. Now that I think about it...I'd gladly refund the boosts to armor HP and whatnot in the next patch in return for increased HP repair rates.



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