I'm posting again about the gallente assault dropsuits because the update wont solve our dilema, if youre gallente you'll undestand, if not, dont even bother replying because i dont give 2 fucks what you think.
First of all this update is reducing armor movement penalties and that doesnt solve the problem. I will still have to use armor repairers and because of that i wont be able to use more armor, so ill be weaker and slower, than a shield user, even after the update.
Dont give me that crap about gallente are meant to be armor,yall sound like 12 year olds that got told santa claus doesnt exist.
Its an FPS MMO, not a magic and sword MMO!
Assault means assault!!!As heavy means heavy!!!!
I beg CCP to consider this and try going with a gallente against any full proto from any other race, even an adv can woop yo ass.
Next time you get killed by a gallente just remember that youre going up against a slower oponent that has much less HP than you and recharges his HP slower,not to mention the fact that it is armor based and the shields are better against most weaponry except energy weapons, it also doesnt need 'repairers'.
Gallente players that score high are truelly skilled players, but if you notice, that is rare.
I used to be Caldari and i used to get 30 kills and i never died and that was with the type 2.
With the gallente proto i can get 20 kills max and that is against noobs in adv and std dropsuits.
Dont say its because every one is stronger now,i already took that into consideration, im not an idiot...
As for the update, i keep repeating myself, but thats mandatory at the moment, as the update will be out in the 29th.
Focus on what im going to say now...
Gallente assault should be treated as an assault, just because on eve the gallente are armor based ships, its just stupid to make an assault armor based, might as well start using a heavywith your duvolle, because as the word assault implies,we charge and conquer objectives, we are not defenders,we need mobility.
Its simply not fair.
Just make all assaults shield based regardless of their race, instead of coming up with ridiculous updates that literally just make me laugh.If youre gallente assault and you agree with me, post about it and make yourselves be heard!!!!
ITS NOT FAIR!
Together we will make CCP hear us and change DUST forever!

Gallente Assault here.

The changes in 1.4 are a step in the right direction. I think Gallente assaults need a bonus to armor repping as well. I'd like to see 1 hp per second per level. Or perhaps something to reduce movement penalty by 10% per level.

I also think the explosive bonus to armor needs to be looked at. 130% is too high imo.

I've also been absolutely melted by scrambler rifles. I don't see them that often and I don't know if there's a bug there or not but they don't seem to have much trouble cutting through armor as well as shields.

You could've remained using Caldari suits...

It doesnt take a rocket scientist to see it will suck.

This update is going to balance Armor vs shields to VERY CLOSE if not VERY VERY CLOSE.

Too late for that now, besides if the gallente assault continues to be armor based, no one will want to be a gallente, especially after they nerf damage mods when everyone starts coimplainning about getting owned by gallente all the time because they have damage mods.
But i dont think damage mods are worth losing your mobility, everyone that gets 60 kills in a match is a mobile soldier, usually a caldari assault shield tanker.

The current buff is jus a small step into the right direction. Shield vs armor gets a bit closer but they far from beeing close or very close. Shield tanker benefits from the buff as well if not even more. And a reasonable Armor fit gets just a small head up in EHP for the disadvantages that come with armor tanking.

This buff is better than nothing but believing this will solve the imbalance between shield and armor is IMHO wrong

I'm posting again about the gallente assault dropsuits because the update wont solve our dilema, if youre gallente you'll undestand, if not, dont even bother replying because i dont give 2 fucks what you think.
First of all this update is reducing armor movement penalties and that doesnt solve the problem. I will still have to use armor repairers and because of that i wont be able to use more armor, so ill be weaker and slower, than a shield user, even after the update.
Dont give me that crap about gallente are meant to be armor,yall sound like 12 year olds that got told santa claus doesnt exist.
Its an FPS MMO, not a magic and sword MMO!
Assault means assault!!!As heavy means heavy!!!!
I beg CCP to consider this and try going with a gallente against any full proto from any other race, even an adv can woop yo ass.
Next time you get killed by a gallente just remember that youre going up against a slower oponent that has much less HP than you and recharges his HP slower,not to mention the fact that it is armor based and the shields are better against most weaponry except energy weapons, it also doesnt need 'repairers'.
Gallente players that score high are truelly skilled players, but if you notice, that is rare.
I used to be Caldari and i used to get 30 kills and i never died and that was with the type 2.
With the gallente proto i can get 20 kills max and that is against noobs in adv and std dropsuits.
Dont say its because every one is stronger now,i already took that into consideration, im not an idiot...
As for the update, i keep repeating myself, but thats mandatory at the moment, as the update will be out in the 29th.
Focus on what im going to say now...
Gallente assault should be treated as an assault, just because on eve the gallente are armor based ships, its just stupid to make an assault armor based, might as well start using a heavywith your duvolle, because as the word assault implies,we charge and conquer objectives, we are not defenders,we need mobility.
Its simply not fair.
Just make all assaults shield based regardless of their race, instead of coming up with ridiculous updates that literally just make me laugh.If youre gallente assault and you agree with me, post about it and make yourselves be heard!!!!
ITS NOT FAIR!
Together we will make CCP hear us and change DUST forever!

Your point about shield tankers now having more HP than armour tankers is invalid because they'll have similar HP if you go for similar regen, and more HP if you go less regen. This is not a problem.
The movement penalty isn't bad now either.

I notice you mention the type 2 suit for your Caldari suit. Things were different then and we didn't have nearly so many proto tryhards.

Dude Im Caldari Assult Proto Maxed on all the basic skills , guess what ? Im considering specking into Gallente assult lol ...why?

1. Damage mods - At least 2 (That really cripples your shield tank)
2. Complex ferroscale - You have buff wihout sacrifising speed.
3. Logi - OMG makes you last sooo much longer.
4. And some secrets ....

You have no idea how lucky you are to have an armor tank + Gallente suits looks cool ...so htfu

Dude, your arguments consist of contradictory statements (as shown above) and otherwise just you bashing people by calling them idiots. "Gallente suits suck, but CCP is going to nerf damage mods because everyone gets owned by gallente suits that use them" Really? You don't think damage mods are worth losing mobility over??? WELL GOOD NEWS, in 1.4 armor tanking is getting a mobility AND HP buff........

The point is, stop complaining. CCP is trying to balance the in game content, not break it by making something new OP every month.

D00d what's your problem?

After your massive rant yesterday about you wanting a respec because you realised you screwed up your character; now you're raging on about this instead of rage quitting like you said you were going to!

The armor buff is going help out a ton; what are you on about? Yes its going to reduce the movement penalties (which is great on its own) but they are also increasing the HP given for each type; Basic, Advanced and Complex.

Being slow has nothing to do with everyone else having an advantage, you're probably restricting yourself due to the mind set you have gotten yourself into. All you need to do is to counter these GÇ£OP shield tankersGÇ¥ is to skill into a weapon that will destroy shields; e.g. The Scrambler Rifles (get the Assault variant because it owns) I roll, advanced Winmatar Logistics which is very similar to Gallente in that it is mainly an Armor tanker (it can be both); this buff is going to give my suit an extra 115 HP which I can't wait for! Bringing my suit to 600 EHP! while increasing my movement speed - Christmas came early!

Stop complaining about your wrong choices and get with the times....... or go make a new account like I informed you about yesterday!

Edit: As you say Armor doesn't repair itself, fit out a Armor Repairer or go Gallente Logistics. Logistics have a PASSIVE +1 HP/s arnor repair rate per level (no modules required to be fitted)

The buff to armor plates will surely help armor tankers to a certain degree.

This buff is a step in the right direction but it doesn't solve the generall imbalance betwenn shield and armor. The problem is it will also help shield tankers a lot maybe even more than armor tankers.

Shield is still far superior to armor. Its still stupid to have to disadvantages for one advantage on armor while shield gets two advantages without disadvantage.

CCP should really stop balancing thier game against upcoming changes (like the somewhere mentioned shield penalty) and should really start balancing their current stuff...

I'm guessing the OP spends a lot of time licking windows until his mom loads Dust for him.

Similar regen is around 15-20 armor HP/s, counting shield delays in a 30 second regen span without including regulators and rechargers or repair tools. Although we will have similar numerical HP but including resistances to damage etc shields have more HP since shield suits are the best dual tanks and dual tanking is the best form of tanking, but it is nice to have HP that looks the same.

Youre not a gallente assault...So wtf do you know?

I do have a Gallente Assault character; Ch1ef OGÇÖBrien and I think it plays out just fine, even having the use of a Sidearm is enough for me, being used to Winmatar Logistics (no sidearm)
Your reply is not an acceptable answer. It just goes to show that you have no real basis or idea what you're talking about seeing as you couldn't make a good reply.

Seriously though stop your whining, no-one likes babies!

The SCr only does 30.5 dmg to armor which isnt bad considering it rpm is in the 700 hundreds

The buff to armor plates will surely help armor tankers to a certain degree.

This buff is a step in the right direction but it doesn't solve the generall imbalance betwenn shield and armor. The problem is it will also help shield tankers a lot maybe even more than armor tankers.

Shield is still far superior to armor. Its still stupid to have to disadvantages for one advantage on armor while shield gets two advantages without disadvantage.

CCP should really stop balancing thier game against upcoming changes (like the somewhere mentioned shield penalty) and should really start balancing their current stuff...

Curious to understand how the armor changes help shield tankers? Dual tankers will probably rejoice but this does not help true shield tankers. Again dual tanking is easy for both sides... and both have advantages.

Curious as to what you see the advantages/disadvantage are for both shields and armor? I'm assuming your simplifying quite a bit but I think the advantage for armor probably are a disadvantage for shields.

Agreed on the shield penalty, why not just add it in CCP? Your mere mention but not addition is killing meaningful discussion as both sides are arguing different things.

I just didnt think you were worth my time...
And i know exactly what im talking about.
I can get more kills than you playing solo on a bad day...let alone with my squad....
Youre the one who doesnt know what hes talking about, if you use 3 armor reps, your shields will still charge faster...
Not to mention they dont need reps, if you think getting 20 kills is doing good, well ok, good for you, but i dont want to be good i want to be great...60 kills is what im aiming for...and if i was caldari i would have at least 50 kills a match...