Way to "counter" them. Use a weapon that has longer range and sit back and outrange them (so you have to be pretty far away for this to work). If you can get into CQC....I mean true CQC then they will hurt themselves while they shoot you...as long as they dont hit you directly you will be doing more dmg with your shots + their own dmg being dealt to themselves.

Dont even try to "dodge" being hit by the AOE....its simply not possible. The best you can do is to positions yourself in a way that the blast radius does not help them......unfortunately the brilliantly designed maps by CCP allow for very few areas where you can position objects between you and the MD round.

People say height advantage is the best method....but that is the best method vs every single weapon in the game. So in reality if you say the only way to counter an MD is to have height advantage then that is just a laughable statement.

Not even LAVs are safe as your dropsuit will take dmg if your char is in the explosive radius....even when it hits the vehicle.

I call bs, I got owned just the other day, in an open field. There suppressing weapons, and thats the point, I should win in the wide open at mid range. And if you wanna troll and say I suck go ahead and trololol all day, I have almost 10mil sp and my ar is almost maxed, the mass driver is op thats a fact.

With that said, its not very op, just needs a rof nerf I believe.

While I see your point about higher ground (that it affects everyone), it does not affect everyone equally. The reason that high ground is generally cited as a counter to the MD is because it is a HARD counter. Unless the user is very good at land precise direct hits every time, they won't be able to engage you. Fighting a MD user from high ground essentially makes it so they have no splash (and therefore are pretty terrible).So yes, it is a legitimate counter.

I have also recently seen the strategy of 'charge into extreme close quarters, up in the MD users face' work quite effectively. Really scares the crap out of me, and has lead to some suicides for sure. Good thing I'm an Amarr logi and I have a sidearm though :)

You decided to engage a MD at the range where it excels and you call BS because it beat you? Look at what everyone says on how to beat a MD. Either long range or short range. By all means, come at me from midrange, where it's easy for me to drop my shells where I want them and I can reach you with my grenades.

Hell at least charge the guy, it's harder to adjust to changing range than it is to side to side motion with an MD and you may just get to the point where my attacks hurt me too.

well thats because you dont even have to adjust for strafing motions with an AOE of 6 meters (9 if using assault MD).

LOL at your "hard counter" I personally didnt have any issues when I use the MD....but then again I rarely sit there and try to shoot up at someone who has the higher ground as for every weapon the higher ground has the advantage....because you can barely peak your head over the top and fire your weapon thus maintaining most of your cover.

I call bs, I got owned just the other day, in an open field. There suppressing weapons, and thats the point, I should win in the wide open at mid range. And if you wanna troll and say I suck go ahead and trololol all day, I have almost 10mil sp and my ar is almost maxed, the mass driver is op thats a fact.

With that said, its not very op, just needs a rof nerf I believe.

I used Mass Drivers before they were cool, you could say im a trend setter

Tac AR / Sniper / flank

AR / ScR if you are a hero (can dodge well, have enough shield and you are a great shot)

I used Mass Drivers before they were cool, you could say im a trend setter

Personally my SP from this double SP week is going towards getting into an advanced logi suit. Probably the Gallente one. Because I am not smart... and I armor tank... while using a mass driver... this should end well.

Heard it here first. Even CCP is using Mass Drivers.

And they have never touched an AR in their lives....

Not successfully, much like yourself.

Already got a Freedom one.
I never need to spend SP again unless it's nerfed.

You are a worthless troll. That is all.

what they have to do with explosive weapons like the hmg laser rifle etc the MD flaylock Swarm launcher plasma cannon and tank need to over head and when they do they lose half or more health I am fed up with massdrivers popping out of a corner shooting 6 shots then hide back in that corner with 4 nanohives supplying that douchebag just like my HMG I lose hp when it overheats and I need to wait 6 seconds for it to cool down.

Show me pics of you smashing with AR. It's just a point and click weapon right? You use MD for the challenge...LMFAO!

I have no need to prove anything to you.

You couldn't if ya wanted to.

I don't know about an overheat, but we do need to reload every 6 shots. Maybe do something with the reload time?

I tried to play tonite and gave up in disgust, MD and flaylocks everywhere, if no then once again 12 ppl camping the sodding MCC!

Been using Mass Drivers since closed beta when they were weaker and only had 4 shots. I'm rarely killed by them and I'm gallente. There's only been 2 or 3 players who ever really gave me problems with it. Most of them out there are just flavor of the month players with terrible shots.

I'd start by reducing explosive bonus to armor. I don't see the logic in it being so high. 105% or 110% would be plenty. I'd be fine with it being just 100% I think.

If they're going to nerf the weapon itself (again), go ahead but they need to fix the aiming system back to how it was in Chromosome at least.

Been using Mass Drivers since closed beta when they were weaker and only. Had 4 shots. I'm rarely killed by them and I'm gallente. There's only been 2 or 3 players who ever really gave me problems with. Most of them out there are just flavor of the month players with terrible shots.

I'd start by reducing explosive bonus to armor. I don't see the logic in it being so high. 105% or 110% would be plenty. I'd be fine with it being just 100% I think.

If they're going to nerf the weapon itself (again), go ahead but they need to fix the aiming system back to how it was in Chromosome at least.