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Posted - 2013.08.07 12:46:00 -
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DS 10 wrote:I don't think MDs are very OP. Maybe a little. I haven't played with them so I can't give an opinion. I wish more people would follow that rule
That being said, MDs are semi-FOTM. They're a skill weapon so not as many will be using them as past FOTM weapons. I'll be sticking with my Toxin AR. If more people use them, CCP will be able to gather more data to assess whether or not they are OP.
I love it....only in Dust is a weapon with massive AOE considered a skill weapon.
Next argument I expect to see. Orbitals take talent to use and shows the true skill of a player. |
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Posted - 2013.08.07 12:49:00 -
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ack double post due to 401 error.....hate that. |
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Posted - 2013.08.07 14:01:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:OK, I did just play a match and the other team was running mostly MDs
Thats funny....you should have taken a page from Busters book and mark down all the kills for that game....then come on and complain about how MDs are destroying diversity since the majority of kills were being done by the MD.  |
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Posted - 2013.08.07 14:48:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Taeryn Frost wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Since we are all here, how do you counter a Mass driver? Getting destroyed by them. Get in a tank/dropship or avoid CQC...that's all I got Note: Being in a vehicle means you'll probably die anyway. Come on there has to be a proper way to counter it, if this is the only way to counter the weapon I might have to take back the "I don't think the weapon is OP". The weapon cannot be that powerful that the only way to counter is by running away and not re engaging.
Way to "counter" them. Use a weapon that has longer range and sit back and outrange them (so you have to be pretty far away for this to work). If you can get into CQC....I mean true CQC then they will hurt themselves while they shoot you...as long as they dont hit you directly you will be doing more dmg with your shots + their own dmg being dealt to themselves.
Dont even try to "dodge" being hit by the AOE....its simply not possible. The best you can do is to positions yourself in a way that the blast radius does not help them......unfortunately the brilliantly designed maps by CCP allow for very few areas where you can position objects between you and the MD round.
People say height advantage is the best method....but that is the best method vs every single weapon in the game. So in reality if you say the only way to counter an MD is to have height advantage then that is just a laughable statement.
Not even LAVs are safe as your dropsuit will take dmg if your char is in the explosive radius....even when it hits the vehicle. |
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Posted - 2013.08.07 14:57:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:
Had somebody cook a grenade and rush at me, killed himself along with me...
He should get kudos for sheer ballsy move. |
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Posted - 2013.08.07 17:34:00 -
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Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:
Way to "counter" them. Use a weapon that has longer range and sit back and outrange them (so you have to be pretty far away for this to work). If you can get into CQC....I mean true CQC then they will hurt themselves while they shoot you...as long as they dont hit you directly you will be doing more dmg with your shots + their own dmg being dealt to themselves.
Dont even try to "dodge" being hit by the AOE....its simply not possible. The best you can do is to positions yourself in a way that the blast radius does not help them......unfortunately the brilliantly designed maps by CCP allow for very few areas where you can position objects between you and the MD round.
People say height advantage is the best method....but that is the best method vs every single weapon in the game. So in reality if you say the only way to counter an MD is to have height advantage then that is just a laughable statement.
Not even LAVs are safe as your dropsuit will take dmg if your char is in the explosive radius....even when it hits the vehicle.
While I see your point about higher ground (that it affects everyone), it does not affect everyone equally. The reason that high ground is generally cited as a counter to the MD is because it is a HARD counter. Unless the user is very good at land precise direct hits every time, they won't be able to engage you. Fighting a MD user from high ground essentially makes it so they have no splash (and therefore are pretty terrible).So yes, it is a legitimate counter. I have also recently seen the strategy of 'charge into extreme close quarters, up in the MD users face' work quite effectively. Really scares the crap out of me, and has lead to some suicides for sure. Good thing I'm an Amarr logi and I have a sidearm though :)
LOL at your "hard counter" I personally didnt have any issues when I use the MD....but then again I rarely sit there and try to shoot up at someone who has the higher ground as for every weapon the higher ground has the advantage....because you can barely peak your head over the top and fire your weapon thus maintaining most of your cover. |
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Posted - 2013.08.07 17:36:00 -
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Angamar Blackrock wrote:Eldest Dragon wrote:
I call bs, I got owned just the other day, in an open field. There suppressing weapons, and thats the point, I should win in the wide open at mid range. And if you wanna troll and say I suck go ahead and trololol all day, I have almost 10mil sp and my ar is almost maxed, the mass driver is op thats a fact.
With that said, its not very op, just needs a rof nerf I believe.
You decided to engage a MD at the range where it excels and you call BS because it beat you? Look at what everyone says on how to beat a MD. Either long range or short range. By all means, come at me from midrange, where it's easy for me to drop my shells where I want them and I can reach you with my grenades. Hell at least charge the guy, it's harder to adjust to changing range than it is to side to side motion with an MD and you may just get to the point where my attacks hurt me too.
well thats because you dont even have to adjust for strafing motions with an AOE of 6 meters (9 if using assault MD). |
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