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Dimmu Borgir II
Consolidated Dust
26
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Posted - 2013.08.07 22:25:00 -
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Stop complaining!! Any SP bonus is great!! If you really want more SP buy a merc pack like i did and buy yourself passive sp boosters, that's the way to go and it's even better during these events! They didn't bring this sp event in to stop afking, the way in which they give you the bonus is to dissuade afking, that's all! |
Yisuki
CHACALES
14
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Posted - 2013.08.07 22:25:00 -
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I'm not getting double anything, no double WP, no double SP. Only thing double is the bonus SP. |
Ferindar
The Malevolent Monkey Militia
4
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Posted - 2013.08.07 22:28:00 -
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Rename the event to double SP Cap week and it'll do. For that's all this currently is. It's not a double SP week, it's a double cap week. |
Harpyja
DUST University Ivy League
466
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Posted - 2013.08.07 22:54:00 -
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My SP gains feel the same but the cap is doubled. It normally takes me about 4-5 days to hit the cap, so... |
HARDFACTS DUSTTRUTH
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
55
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Posted - 2013.08.08 01:23:00 -
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What ever you think you did to discourage AFKing didnt work, they still get the same ole 5k sp per match sitting in the MCC with a booster that is. |
dustwaffle
Gravity Prone EoN.
296
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Posted - 2013.08.08 03:36:00 -
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Absolute Idiom II wrote:I'm kinda surprised to see no further CPM or dev comments in this thread. Why would they, with the toxic, self-entitled whining Debbite downers all over the place
CCP effectively raises the cap, people complain that they aren't getting enough bonuses to SP gain to hit it before Sunday |
OSGR Valdez
Contract Hunters
11
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Posted - 2013.08.08 04:38:00 -
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Thanks guys! |
DEATH OF RATS
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.08.08 04:40:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:Absolute Idiom II wrote:I'm kinda surprised to see no further CPM or dev comments in this thread. Why would they, with the toxic, self-entitled whining Debbite downers all over the place CCP effectively raises the cap, people complain that they aren't getting enough bonuses to SP gain to hit it before Sunday +1 |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse
91
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Posted - 2013.08.08 08:10:00 -
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Yisuki wrote:I'm not getting double anything, no double WP, no double SP. Only thing double is the bonus SP.
Aye, that seems to be true too. While I won't look a gift horse in the mouth, I would like double WP and double Active Booster SP as described in the OP.
CCP Frame wrote: [*] Active skill point gain is doubled! Your warpoints earned during the match will be doubled when it is converted into skill points.
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Absolute Idiom II
No Free Pass
397
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Posted - 2013.08.08 08:29:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:Absolute Idiom II wrote:I'm kinda surprised to see no further CPM or dev comments in this thread. Why would they, with the toxic, self-entitled whining Debbite downers all over the place CCP effectively raises the cap, people complain that they aren't getting enough bonuses to SP gain to hit it before Sunday
As I said before, I don't see that it's churlish to point out how this event (sadly) ends up being one which is a grindfest; rather than being fun for it's own sake. CCP and the CPM have specifically spoken about how they don't want future event to be grind-heavy. I feel I've been very measured and reasonable in my posts explaining the reasons why, along with suggesting a possible solution. |
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Death Dealer86
The Seeds of Fire
0
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Posted - 2013.08.08 09:25:00 -
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August sp event = epic fail!! The only way to earn your cap this week is to lay twice as much . People like myself with real jobs don't have time for this. Everyone please give a round of applause to ccp for botching probably the most anticipated event they have. Keep up the good work turds! |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
646
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:11:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:Troy Wiegert wrote:I think everyone should be happy that they can earn 2X SP for the week. I know it may cause battles to be played different because of AFK or people just going for hacks and turrets. It's only for 1 week and if you don't like how the battle is going then run a cheap suit and do what you can to survive. From my understanding we will only earn x2 SP from War Points, which means that if you get 800 WP in a match you'll get 1600 SP from that instead of 800, on top of the 5 WP/sec you earn from just being in the battle. So it's far from a true Double SP event.
It is true that this event differs from previous ones with the same traditional names (triple vs double PS event). Who has the job of naming events? Who has the prerogative to change details of events? CCP.
The mechanics of this event is different from previous ones true. But it is okay that they are tuned. Without change things never get better.
Does this event deserve the name Double SP week? Never mind the not-quite-double match rewards, this weeks cap IS doubled so if you play you have gained double the amount you usually would.
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dustwaffle
Gravity Prone EoN.
298
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:20:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:Yisuki wrote:I'm not getting double anything, no double WP, no double SP. Only thing double is the bonus SP. Aye, that seems to be true too. While I won't look a gift horse in the mouth, I would like double WP and double Active Booster SP as described in the OP. CCP Frame wrote:
Active skill point gain is doubled! Your warpoints earned during the match will be doubled when it is converted into skill points.
You quoted the section of OP you misunderstood? |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
647
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:21:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:Yisuki wrote:I'm not getting double anything, no double WP, no double SP. Only thing double is the bonus SP. Aye, that seems to be true too. While I won't look a gift horse in the mouth, I would like double WP and double Active Booster SP as described in the OP. CCP Frame wrote: * Active skill point gain is doubled! Your warpoints earned during the match will be doubled when it is converted into skill points.
Respect for being understanding and not one of those ranting around.
Looks you might've misunderstood few things: * The WPs are the same but when converted into total SP rewards their value is doubled to usual. Effectively giving about +20% total increase (+/- 10%)
* There has been no talk about active booster effectiveness increase. Although a bit confusing terminology, this time the "active skill point gain" only refers to actively gained part of your SP rewards which are the WPs. |
dustwaffle
Gravity Prone EoN.
298
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:22:00 -
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Absolute Idiom II wrote:dustwaffle wrote:Absolute Idiom II wrote:I'm kinda surprised to see no further CPM or dev comments in this thread. Why would they, with the toxic, self-entitled whining Debbite downers all over the place CCP effectively raises the cap, people complain that they aren't getting enough bonuses to SP gain to hit it before Sunday As I said before, I don't see that it's churlish to point out how this event (sadly) ends up being one which is a grindfest; rather than being fun for it's own sake. CCP and the CPM have specifically spoken about how they don't want future event to be grind-heavy. I feel I've been very measured and reasonable in my posts explaining the reasons why, along with suggesting a possible solution. Maybe not you, but take a look at the post directly below yours:
Death Dealer86 wrote:August sp event = epic fail!! The only way to earn your cap this week is to lay twice as much . People like myself with real jobs don't have time for this. Everyone please give a round of applause to ccp for botching probably the most anticipated event they have. Keep up the good work turds! Tell me again, why would CCP or the CPM want to bother responding when you have people complaining even thought they've lost NOTHING in this event. |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse
91
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:37:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Respect for being understanding and not one of those ranting around.
Looks you might've misunderstood few things: * The WPs are the same but when converted into total SP rewards their value is doubled to usual. Effectively giving about +20% total increase (+/- 10%)
* There has been no talk about active booster effectiveness increase. Although a bit confusing terminology, this time the "active skill point gain" only refers to actively gained part of your SP rewards which are the WPs.
While that maybe true, I still don't feel like I'm getting any bonus. I "normally" get 7K to 10K SP per match (i.e. non-event), I would have expected to get more from the event. Essentially, having to grind less. |
Death Dealer86
The Seeds of Fire
0
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:45:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:Absolute Idiom II wrote:dustwaffle wrote:Absolute Idiom II wrote:I'm kinda surprised to see no further CPM or dev comments in this thread. Why would they, with the toxic, self-entitled whining Debbite downers all over the place CCP effectively raises the cap, people complain that they aren't getting enough bonuses to SP gain to hit it before Sunday As I said before, I don't see that it's churlish to point out how this event (sadly) ends up being one which is a grindfest; rather than being fun for it's own sake. CCP and the CPM have specifically spoken about how they don't want future event to be grind-heavy. I feel I've been very measured and reasonable in my posts explaining the reasons why, along with suggesting a possible solution. Maybe not you, but take a look at the post directly below yours: Death Dealer86 wrote:August sp event = epic fail!! The only way to earn your cap this week is to lay twice as much . People like myself with real jobs don't have time for this. Everyone please give a round of applause to ccp for botching probably the most anticipated event they have. Keep up the good work turds! Tell me again, why would CCP or the CPM want to bother responding when you have people complaining even thought they've lost NOTHING in this event.
I don't expect a response from them or you for that matter. Those of us who haven't been on the game from the beginning, would like to take advantage of these events in order to keep up with these proto's w/ flaylocks and mass drivers. I would imagine ccp runs these events to try and draw more people into there game so they can sink money into it such as myself, but who wants to do that when they are getting dominated right out of the spawning point? You run an event like this so your newer players can gain some ground and actually want to play the game instead of wanting to smash there controller and never play again. Catch my drift or is my logic beyond your thought process troll? |
Absolute Idiom II
No Free Pass
397
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:59:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:Absolute Idiom II wrote:dustwaffle wrote:Absolute Idiom II wrote:I'm kinda surprised to see no further CPM or dev comments in this thread. Why would they, with the toxic, self-entitled whining Debbite downers all over the place CCP effectively raises the cap, people complain that they aren't getting enough bonuses to SP gain to hit it before Sunday As I said before, I don't see that it's churlish to point out how this event (sadly) ends up being one which is a grindfest; rather than being fun for it's own sake. CCP and the CPM have specifically spoken about how they don't want future event to be grind-heavy. I feel I've been very measured and reasonable in my posts explaining the reasons why, along with suggesting a possible solution. Maybe not you, but take a look at the post directly below yours: Death Dealer86 wrote:August sp event = epic fail!! The only way to earn your cap this week is to lay twice as much . People like myself with real jobs don't have time for this. Everyone please give a round of applause to ccp for botching probably the most anticipated event they have. Keep up the good work turds! Tell me again, why would CCP or the CPM want to bother responding when you have people complaining even thought they've lost NOTHING in this event. They'd be responding to me.
No need for your strawman argument though: no-one is saying they've lost something. Yes, some people are being abusive (which is totally unnecessary and disproportionate) but that's an issue for moderation not a reason for zero response.
There are legitimate points being made calmly in this thread. I maintain that I'm a little surprised that those posts haven't been responded to. Only a little though. I do genuinely expect that the CPM are discussing these points with the CCP community even team privately. |
Death Dealer86
The Seeds of Fire
0
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Posted - 2013.08.08 11:27:00 -
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My apologies for the misspelled their* in my last post. I wouldn't want to anger the troll! |
Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
69
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Posted - 2013.08.08 12:17:00 -
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Did anyone cap out yet? Can we confirm that you only need 500 warpoints to reach the 1000 sp per match soft cap? |
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Roofer Madness
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
118
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Posted - 2013.08.08 14:02:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Did anyone cap out yet? Can we confirm that you only need 500 warpoints to reach the 1000 sp per match soft cap?
I'm not even sure if there has been near enough time for that! I got half of it yesterday and that was playing ALL day. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis Covert Intervention
1421
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Posted - 2013.08.08 15:01:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:Did anyone cap out yet? Can we confirm that you only need 500 warpoints to reach the 1000 sp per match soft cap? I'm not even sure if there has been near enough time for that! I got half of it yesterday and that was playing ALL day. Same. I played all of yesterday with some match totals even breaking 3000 War Points earned (I think my average was over 1500 WP yesterday, thanks to my corpies letting me squad lead) and even with those totals throughout hours of play I still have around 170k worth of cap left.
0.02 ISK Cross |
zzZaXxx
The Exemplars Top Men.
167
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:28:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:Did anyone cap out yet? Can we confirm that you only need 500 warpoints to reach the 1000 sp per match soft cap? I'm not even sure if there has been near enough time for that! I got half of it yesterday and that was playing ALL day. Same. I played all of yesterday with some match totals even breaking 3000 War Points earned (I think my average was over 1500 WP yesterday, thanks to my corpies letting me squad lead) and even with those totals throughout hours of play I still have around 170k worth of cap left. 0.02 ISK Cross
Wow so what you're saying is that the "double SP" really only gets you to 1000 SP in a match faster and after that you're capped? This is more like a x1.2 SP + x2 SP Cap Event. |
zzZaXxx
The Exemplars Top Men.
167
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:49:00 -
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Death Dealer86 wrote: I don't expect a response from them or you for that matter. Those of us who haven't been on the game from the beginning, would like to take advantage of these events in order to keep up with these proto's w/ flaylocks and mass drivers. I would imagine ccp runs these events to try and draw more people into there game so they can sink money into it such as myself, but who wants to do that when they are getting dominated right out of the spawning point? You run an event like this so your newer players can gain some ground and actually want to play the game instead of wanting to smash there controller and never play again. Catch my drift or is my logic beyond your thought process troll?
There's a severe gap between the older players with 10 mil+ SP and the newer ones. I have about 7.5 mil SP and I'm still not quite ready to start on Caldari Logistics Dropsuit 4 and 5, and that will take forever. It takes waaaay too long to get to your ideal fit in Dust. It shouldn't 4 months or whatever with boosters. That's ridonkulous.
And after a certain point the SP doesn't benefit the older players nearly as much as the newer ones. Older players will use it to spec into vehicles and to add weapons and dropsuits. Newer players need it to complete their first specialization and become somewhat competitive. And let's be honest. A noob's only option in this game is to be either pwned or roflstomped. Not a recipe for retention. They need to have multiple x3 SP events over the next few months to enable newer players to catch up and fully participate in the community.
Read this. These guys tell it like it is.
http://evenews24.com/2013/08/02/dust-mercs-where-dust-514-went-wrong/ |
Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
69
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Posted - 2013.08.08 17:57:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:Did anyone cap out yet? Can we confirm that you only need 500 warpoints to reach the 1000 sp per match soft cap? I'm not even sure if there has been near enough time for that! I got half of it yesterday and that was playing ALL day.
You never know; there might be a hardcore grinder out there that played 22-24 hrs straight just to hit the cap ;)
I took the day off to play yesterday and I have around 122k left. I'll probably cap out tomorrow morning so if no one's confirmed by then, I'll let you all know. |
The Terminator T-1000
The Praetorian Legionary
3
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Posted - 2013.08.08 18:24:00 -
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CCCP thanks for the event and the opportunity to earn extra SP! |
Dimmu Borgir II
Consolidated Dust
28
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Posted - 2013.08.08 21:04:00 -
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Death Dealer86 wrote:August sp event = epic fail!! The only way to earn your cap this week is to lay twice as much . People like myself with real jobs don't have time for this. Everyone please give a round of applause to ccp for botching probably the most anticipated event they have. Keep up the good work turds!
Well that's your problem right there, you're laying twice as much! You should get off your lazy bones ass and Play twice as much!! Then you'd get more sp!! |
Stile451
Red Star. EoN.
171
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Posted - 2013.08.08 22:42:00 -
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It's probably a typo of "play". |
Death Dealer86
The Seeds of Fire
2
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Posted - 2013.08.09 00:00:00 -
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Dimmu Borgir II wrote:Death Dealer86 wrote:August sp event = epic fail!! The only way to earn your cap this week is to lay twice as much . People like myself with real jobs don't have time for this. Everyone please give a round of applause to ccp for botching probably the most anticipated event they have. Keep up the good work turds! Well that's your problem right there, you're laying twice as much! You should get off your lazy bones ass and Play twice as much!! Then you'd get more sp!! haha! Yeah the p isn't working well on my keyboard. But honestly, unless your a teenage boy with no life who has time for that? I'm a casual gamer who likes to play or "lay" with my free time and I would just like to be competitive and not get stomped out by these proto suits. That's all I'm trying to say. |
Miles O'Rourke
Beyond Gravity.OTF Only The Famous
5
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Posted - 2013.08.09 01:46:00 -
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I haven't seen any AFK today, but I have seen an excessive amount of LLAV spam in matches. Even more so than usual. At one point I counted 4 separate LLAV operating in a match. |
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