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Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.08.06 19:41:00 -
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Agreed. I don't see how this can help deter AFKing. If anything, you should AFK and cap tomorrow so you can play with doubled Active SP all week. Not saying I would do that......  |
Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.08.06 19:45:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:Absolute Idiom II wrote:SOMBRA del MUERTE wrote:I still don't see how this event worries people about afk, since it only affects active sp. That was my point. Maybe folks will get a little more than the usual afk for wp time in battle, but that's not gonna compare to the benefits of active play with the bonus. And whatever warpoints you get, 10000 active sp per battle will get you to 390000 active sp in 39 battles, which is easily doable in a week. I'm not mining for the numbers here, this is just doubling a skirmish round number (a mediocre match without boosters). But whew, you sure did flame me with your trollmath  I'm sorry but if you look at my post from earlier (page 2 I think) then you can easily see that your assumptions are wrong. AFK players have to plays for 2x as long. Players who are earning 3000 WP per hour have to play 1.8x as long. at 5000 WP per hour it's 1.6x as long to complete. So yep. as you can see you can AFK very easily to reach the doubled cap. So what you're saying is...the cap is doubled...and people can still AFK in the MCC...and if they do it long enough they'll reach the cap. Turns out basic reasoning works. Huzzah! To be honest AFKing in the MCC is a game mechanic. It's one of the things you can do, like solo mining, mission running, or can flipping in EVE. The difference is it contributes nothing to the community. Even solo missioning has it's place in the EVE economy and social network. In both EVE and DUST players will discover every nook and cranny of what's possible for them in game and a percentage of players will do that thing, no matter what it is. Someone could claim MCC AFKing as their DUST "career" and no one could deny them. If it can be done, it's part of the game. So the only answer is to remove it from the game. An simple solution would be to make the MCC auto drop someone who's been in there too long. If the fall doesn't kill them a sniper will shortly. (Make sure they show up on spawn map for all to see after standing under the MCC for 10 secs.) Or the offender could just be eviscerated in the MCC as penalty for shirking his duties.
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People could stop worrying so much about what other people are doing and worry about their own WPs. Fact is if you are sitting in the MCC then your game is lacking. Skillz will always beat SP. |
Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.08.06 19:54:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:zzZaXxx wrote:Absolute Idiom II wrote:SOMBRA del MUERTE wrote:I still don't see how this event worries people about afk, since it only affects active sp. That was my point. Maybe folks will get a little more than the usual afk for wp time in battle, but that's not gonna compare to the benefits of active play with the bonus. And whatever warpoints you get, 10000 active sp per battle will get you to 390000 active sp in 39 battles, which is easily doable in a week. I'm not mining for the numbers here, this is just doubling a skirmish round number (a mediocre match without boosters). But whew, you sure did flame me with your trollmath I'm sorry but if you look at my post from earlier (page 2 I think) then you can easily see that your assumptions are wrong. AFK players have to plays for 2x as long. Players who are earning 3000 WP per hour have to play 1.8x as long. at 5000 WP per hour it's 1.6x as long to complete. So yep. as you can see you can AFK very easily to reach the doubled cap. So what you're saying is...the cap is doubled...and people can still AFK in the MCC...and if they do it long enough they'll reach the cap. Turns out basic reasoning works. Huzzah! To be honest AFKing in the MCC is a game mechanic. It's one of the things you can do, like solo mining, mission running, or can flipping in EVE. The difference is it contributes nothing to the community. Even solo missioning has it's place in the EVE economy and social network. In both EVE and DUST players will discover every nook and cranny of what's possible for them in game and a percentage of players will do that thing, no matter what it is. Someone could claim MCC AFKing as their DUST "career" and no one could deny them. If it can be done, it's part of the game. So the only answer is to remove it from the game. An simple solution would be to make the MCC auto drop someone who's been in there too long. If the fall doesn't kill them a sniper will shortly. (Make sure they show up on spawn map for all to see after standing under the MCC for 10 secs.) Or the offender could just be eviscerated in the MCC as penalty for shirking his duties. OR People could stop worrying so much about what other people are doing and worry about their own WPs. Fact is if you are sitting in the MCC then your game is lacking. Skillz will always beat SP. Someone on my team who is AFKing in the MCC is directly costing me ISK and fun, because it makes my team less competitive and me more likely to die. If they're on the other team it helps my ISK but equally gimps my fun, which is the more important of the two. So I'm thinking about #1 here. If CCP does nothing about this then they are neglecting all of us who are inconvenienced by this bummery.
I would agree with you but what you stated is based on an assumption that blueberries can be helpful. Which is not my experience. Especially not the scrub blueberries who AFK on the reg. And also, CCP has a history of appeasing whiners so I am sure AFKing will be over soon enough. Then all the whiners can come up with something else that someone is doing that they don't like...
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Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.08.06 20:03:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:zzZaXxx wrote:
Someone on my team who is AFKing in the MCC is directly costing me ISK and fun, because it makes my team less competitive and me more likely to die. If they're on the other team it helps my ISK but equally gimps my fun, which is the more important of the two. So I'm thinking about #1 here. If CCP does nothing about this then they are neglecting all of us who are inconvenienced by this bummery.
I would agree with you but what you stated is based on an assumption that blueberries can be helpful. Which is not my experience. Especially not the scrub blueberries who AFK on the reg. And also, CCP has a history of appeasing whiners so I am sure AFKing will be over soon enough. Then all the whiners can come up with something else that someone is doing that they don't like... They at least provide a target that is not me. Does "whining" translate to "feedback" in troll?
So AFKers are gimping your fun and you feel neglected by CCP and this is just feedback, not whining? My mistake... |
Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.08.06 20:15:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:zzZaXxx wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:zzZaXxx wrote:
Someone on my team who is AFKing in the MCC is directly costing me ISK and fun, because it makes my team less competitive and me more likely to die. If they're on the other team it helps my ISK but equally gimps my fun, which is the more important of the two. So I'm thinking about #1 here. If CCP does nothing about this then they are neglecting all of us who are inconvenienced by this bummery.
I would agree with you but what you stated is based on an assumption that blueberries can be helpful. Which is not my experience. Especially not the scrub blueberries who AFK on the reg. And also, CCP has a history of appeasing whiners so I am sure AFKing will be over soon enough. Then all the whiners can come up with something else that someone is doing that they don't like... They at least provide a target that is not me. Does "whining" translate to "feedback" in troll? So AFKers are gimping your fun and you feel neglected by CCP and this is just feedback, not whining? My mistake... Yes, I'm pointing out a glaring problem and why it matters and brainstorming solutions. Enlighten us as to the difference between whining and feedback if you would.
Actually, this is a thread about the 2x SP week so how about you go post in one of the hundreds of other threads about AFKing if you really have to do it. Oh, and whining is kinda like feedback, except my internal voice narrates it with a high pitched nerdy voice. |
Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.08.08 14:02:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Did anyone cap out yet? Can we confirm that you only need 500 warpoints to reach the 1000 sp per match soft cap?
I'm not even sure if there has been near enough time for that! I got half of it yesterday and that was playing ALL day. |
Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.08.16 11:56:00 -
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Absolute Idiom II wrote:Rogue Saint wrote:Absolute Idiom II wrote:
It was working as designed - it's just the design ended up meaning all players would have to grind for more hours in order to hit the doubled SP cap.
CCP Frame wrote:
Active skill point gain is doubled! Your warpoints earned during the match will be doubled when it is converted into skill points.
?? Your SP reward is calculated by 5 SP for each second that you play + 1 SP for each WP that you earn. The event changed that to 5 SP for each second that you play + 2 SP for each WP that you earn. Clearly when most of your SP come from the time spent in the battle and not from the WP that you earn, you'll find that your SP reward does not double in size. This is the way that they designed it, though many of us pointed out that the consequence was an increase in grind required to hit the SP cap for all players.
Thanks for clearing that up..... again.   Here we are on page 9 of this thread (and the event is over) and we still have people who lack the basic reading comprehension to go to the beginning of the thread before going all crybaby. This questions has been asked and answered sooooooo many times during this thread you almost have to be trolling to keep on about it.... lulz
edit: comment directed at rogue saint, not absolute idiom II. |
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