Wait, it takes 2 proto AV to kill you and you think that you should be significantly tougher?
The hell?

Show me exactly where I said tanks should get killed by a single shot
The javelin example is to show you that you guys have it so much better than you really know

Just another example of tank drivers using hyperbolic arguments, come back when you have something that isnt you crying like a child
Or hell maybe you should just roll a new character and stay in the battle academy, no mean proto AV there to hurt your feelings

It's what you're implying. We're not all stupid.

LOL Impossible to prove. Nice strawman. You clearly lost, yet continue to argue with no ground to stand on.

You're crying because militia gear couldn't kill non militia tanks.

Jesus Christ.

Just as bad as the people crying that their AR can't kill tanks.

You're crying because militia gear couldn't kill non militia tanks.

Jesus Christ.

Just as bad as the people crying that their AR can't kill tanks.

You realize that's not some random scrub, right?

You dont even see the irony do you?

You realize that's not some random scrub, right?

One of the other major issues with vehicles is the hardeners, resistance, and booster modules. A LLAV could show as having 2800 shield HP, but after hitting them three times with an assault forge equipped with an enhanced damage mod, and their shields only drop ~20%, you know something is terribly wrong. Especially when the forge is best against shields.

And boosters are just pure BS, what is this crap? Would be acceptable, maybe, if it was a one time-use module. But no, you just wait 30 seconds and you can gain an additional 1645 HP whenever you feel like it.

IMO hardeners, resistance, and booster modules need to get the boot. Vehicles need to be like our suits, you get shield extension and armor extension... that is IT when it comes to boosting your health. The only other non-visible variable should be the shields vs armor in terms of explosive resistance and whatnot.

Vehicles are a cancer to this game in their current form, we might as well call the game Vehicle 514. And the sooner vehicle scrubs realize this and stop trying to make themselves 100% invincible by QQing to the devs about trivial problems, the better this game can get.

/me pets his Proto swarms

Wait, it takes 2 proto AV to kill you and you think that you should be significantly tougher?
The hell?

I know right screw that man

More of a "CoD makes wild strawman arguments all the time so its ironic when he says others do the same" Lorhak

Yeah, they think a full squad of Proto AV is needed to kill their one tank, because they spend 20m sp and 2m Isk on it, newsflash my 20m sp i put into my Infantry role is just as much points as their 20m sp and they can easely destroy 2m Isk in suits before they explode.

Every match i see one of the tanker crowds bunched up in a squad, deploying at least 4 of them, they A) Never die and B) **** anything that moves and C) Still cry about how underpowered their tanks are....

Tanks should be like ships in Eve, cost up to Billions in fittings and still die because your multi billion rock met 1 cheap-ass Paper on the field. If tanks are supposed to be rock and AV is the Paper, atm its very very wet crappy paper.

One of the other major issues with vehicles is the hardeners, resistance, and booster modules. A LLAV could show as having 2800 shield HP, but after hitting them three times with an assault forge equipped with an enhanced damage mod, and their shields only drop ~20%, you know something is terribly wrong. Especially when the forge is best against shields.

And boosters are just pure BS, what is this crap? Would be acceptable, maybe, if it was a one time-use module. But no, you just wait 30 seconds and you can gain an additional 1645 HP whenever you feel like it.

IMO hardeners, resistance, and booster modules need to get the boot. Vehicles need to be like our suits, you get shield extension and armor extension... that is IT when it comes to boosting your health. The only other non-visible variable should be the shields vs armor in terms of explosive resistance and whatnot.

Vehicles are a cancer to this game in their current form, we might as well call the game Vehicle 514. And the sooner vehicle scrubs realize this and stop trying to make themselves 100% invincible by QQing to the devs about trivial problems, the better this game can get.

You realise that taking an entire squad of proto AV to down a standard tank isn't reasonable, right?

:P

I don't know what he posts like, so I'll take that one.

He is 'crying' because half a team using AV gear, albeit militia, could take out only one real tank during a whole game. A head can go in the sand only that deep, you know.

I post analytical, but you'll listen to him. Figures assaults flock together.

So just now I went into a pub skirmish match and the opposing team (no exaggeration) had 4 Tanks and 1 dropship. These weren't just militia tanks either these were top of the line your miltia AV won't make a dent tanks. So after being pushed to one outside objective, and eventually none, half the team switched to AV. We even coordinated to all fire on one tank in order to take it down. In the whole match we took down 2....... one being milita called in later. We had mostly AV but also one guy using Proto AV. Militia Forge guns and swarms didn't make a dent. The dropship went down, but it was foolish enough to stick around despite half the team firing swarms at it (no sympathy).

All in all is was a fun match, AV versus tanks running around trying to pick them off from the hills. Even with minimal success it was quite enjoyable. This team of tankers had a place and they worked well.

So what is my problem? If 6 militia AV can barely dent these standard tanks, then why all the tanker QQ?
Is it the cost? Retreat was always an option for them but they never had to.
Is it the "OP" AV? You'd need 3 dedicated proto AV fits to take down one of those tanks.

So I'm starting to understand that many tankers have this mentality that anything other than a tank that can take them out is OP, regardless of how they use their tank.

NOTE: THIS IS NOT QQ, I HAD FUN!!!!

As a dedicated AV forgegunning, metal melting, vehicle vivisectionist, i would like to say tanks need to be brought up to par with the proto AV that is available now, it is simply far too easy to kill Ninjanomyx while he hides in the redline. CCP should give him a stronger tank, because after i solo his maddy in a pub match i get a flood of mails with his tears soaking the envelopes.......poor guy

go back to bf scrub

I'm not commenting on the quality of your posts as a rule my only knowledge of your posts as a rule is what he's said.

Whether or not you post straw men, I actually agree with you in this discussion.

But I don't care enough to weigh in to his discussion; sick of even reading the damn things.

My post was not agreement, but an acceptance that he may have had a point. Which is not something I know or not.