All I can say Maple in all honesty... I threw 4 proto av grenades into your tank during that PC match and it did NOTHING as far as damage.... so I am not understanding what is wanted to be done with the AV nades.

I believe I still have that match recorded on my hard drive, I could be wrong.. I got my ass tore up, but the evidence of the av nade dmg is very visible when I say ...little damage was done.

LOL.....you hit a Shield Tank w/ Proto AV Nades & did "Nothing"??? Sir.....what is your idea of "Nothing" exactly??? I'm honestly curious.....b/c even my Hacked Exos do "Something"....

if MAPLE WANTS TO BE HONEST ABOUT THE SITUATION...ASK HIM. He knows exactly when I did it and how I did it, I was right in front of him.


His tank is a monster.... you hit his tank with proto nades and see if your CLAIMS hold to be true.


normal tanks... 4 proto av nades good bye.....

Maples would prob take 8 or 9

Seriously leave the AV nades the **** alone
They absolutely need the the damage otherwise there would be very little to deter vehicle players and Ill use the murder taxi problem as an example, before people specced into better AV options you would see the trucks just going back and forth feeling completely safe but now that there is more danger to them out in the field they try to hit and run or get blown up

Same thing with tanks, how often in the past have you seen one park next to a CRU to rack up kills
With the grenades high spike damage it at the very least scares him off since now he knows there is danger


Now as for homing its really not as good as you think it is, more often than not for the homing to be effective, especially with a packed grenade since those have a much shorter homing range, your throw would already have to be dead on
On top of that theres a delay between throwing, homing activation, and the explosion so youll end up having grenades bounce off a vehicles hull before the homing actually kicks in and the thing explodes



Now I know the likely counter argument is "They arent a primary blah blah blah" and thats right they arent, even with the high spike damage you have limited ammo, limited range, and the scenario of 'People just throw down hives and spam them" only works if the vehicle driver is a complete dunce and is sitting stone still



So yeah, summary time
Viable deterrent option that is perfect as is since it carries enough limitations to counter the spike damage and the only ones that it will constantly be deadly to are bad drivers

its called the swarm launchers and forges, us tankers sacrifice our ability to fight outside of the vehicle in order to pilot a tank, you should sacrifice your ability to fight infantry if you want to kill us.. fair is fair, the av grenade allows you to be effective in both equally which is a major problem, "if you specialize in everything, youl be good at nothing", "to gain something, something else must be sacrifice"..

av grenades are the most OP av weapon in the game, your just a scrub if you think otherwise & yes im speaking the truth, all you ******* do with those tin cans is hide behind cover and throw them straight up and they take out over half of our shields and armor within 5 seconds.... only the swarms and forges should do that, not a ******* tiny ass grenade..

Oh no really half of your HP in 5 whole seconds? Now tell me again how many fractions of a second it takes for a tank to kill infantry
And last I checked you dont spawn in already sitting inside your tin can and you sacrifice absolutely nothing while driving a tank

"Waaah we cant fight outside our tanks"
You have free dropsuits dont you and havent I seen you telling new people to just squad up and run with a group to be effective if you only have low level gear? ******* hypocrite, cry some more

Or may I add "pub" stomping in tanks.. cause lord knows there is only one place for "proto" gear and that is the place that does not count "PC".... people have so many double standards at times....

There are no Proto Tanks....so...."Lie" seems to be your "Go-To", duly noted I've been a Relevant factor in PC during the time I participated.....why aren't you???

We'll be taking a look at the plasma cannon along with all AV weapons as part of the vehicle work we are doing in 1.5.