is this on the new map or is it just the new outpost? or both? :D

(though it appears to be the bridge map)

That's perfect actually, as long as the muzzle flash doesn't distort the aiming like the scrambler rifle does

and on that note, please fix the scrambler rifle muzzle flash so it doesn't blind you when you aim down the sights

I'm guessing the scope alone is the sole contents of the 1.5 expansion?

Can you not give us the options of scopes on all guns?

Must have taken ages to design that scope.

And once More CCP ignores us assault riffle guys were is are AR scopes i ask once more??

Is the laser beam blue in that picture? Are Scramblers and L-Rifles going blue?

hopefully this'll bring more lasers to the field.. Been a while since I've been fried by one of those.

Is anybody noticing the new map in the background.


CCP you sly dog!


New Laser Rifle scope
New map


Is that a yes CCP?

And once More CCP ignores us assault riffle guys were is are AR scopes i ask once more??

Hey guys

I've got some new screenshots of the Laser Rifle scope coming in Uprising 1.4 from Team Kong. One of the things we felt was holding the Laser Rifle back was it's scope, which was hard to use and obscured your view when aiming down the sights. So we decided to switch out the old iron sights with a red dot.

[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64954/1/12.jpg[/img]

[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64954/1/13.jpg[/img]

[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64954/1/lr116.JPG[/img]

What do you think?

is this on the new map or is it just the new outpost? or both? :D

TAR and burst AR have scopes, theres no reason for a scope on a full auto short range weapon, why do you want one? lasers optimal range is past AR effective range so they should get a scope.

I doubt that he really means scopes...we want reflex sights, at the very least. Not to mention, scopes on ARs in fps games are extremely common. In fact, they are as common as reflex sights. Most shooters use scopes for increased accuracy, that's why.

Ouch 23% efficiency at 17m gonna love the new efficiency meter though !

Edit: will the efficiency % add in damage mods or is that base range vs danage ?

Does it have any zoom whatsoever? LR is longer range so there should really be a sort of zoom element to it. I'm not saying bring back the Camera Scope but just make that current aiming animation (where you can see outside the scope as well) have a zoom inside the scope, so things only inside that scope have zoom...that was probably confusing, I hope not.

It's 23% efficiency at 17m in ADS (third image)

It's 35% efficiency at 17m in hip fire (first image)

What's up with that?

It's 23% efficiency at 17m in ADS (third image)

It's 35% efficiency at 17m in hip fire (first image)

What's up with that?

What do we think??..the AR is hard to use, CCP. Noone even uses the laser rifle.

The iron sight on the AR is hard to use because you can barely see the dot that you have to aim with. A lot of the people like the way it looks but it isn't very functional. I don't understand how one can justify no sights on an assault rifle 6 months after the fps game has been released. This is unprecedented!!!!...and not in a good way either.

What bothers me is that you have sights on weapons that are used the least. I don't understand the logic for placing sights on lasers, scrambler, and tactical rifles.....and totally ignore the most used weapon in the game. Even the submachine gun, which can't be used at distances has a sight. Can't you guys see the problem???? This is a shooter that is designed to not shoot....aim mwchanics are blown, hip fire is broken, hit detection suffers, no sights, and a dysfunctional iron sight with a barely visible bar to aim with.

Now...what do you think??

Its good that the laser rifle is getting a new scope.. didnt like the other one all that much and that is not a new map its one of the new sockets

What do we think??..the AR is hard to use, CCP. Noone even uses the laser rifle.

The iron sight on the AR is hard to use because you can barely see the dot that you have to aim with. A lot of the people like the way it looks but it isn't very functional. I don't understand how one can justify no sights on an assault rifle 6 months after the fps game has been released. This is unprecedented!!!!...and not in a good way either.

What bothers me is that you have sights on weapons that are used the least. I don't understand the logic for placing sights on lasers, scrambler, and tactical rifles.....and totally ignore the most used weapon in the game. Even the submachine gun, which can't be used at distances has a sight. Can't you guys see the problem???? This is a shooter that is designed to not shoot....aim mwchanics are blown, hip fire is broken, hit detection suffers, no sights, and a dysfunctional iron sight with a barely visible bar to aim with.

Now...what do you think??

I thought it was a whole new map


I am now sad panda.



Can you confirm just more than one new socket this time CCP?

So when are ARs going to get red dots? I'd like to think that 26000 years in the future, man kind has figured out that they help everyone shoot better.

great! now can we get a difference in dmg and range with the std, adv and proto versions?

Where is my AR scope.... I mean the dropsuit fitting screen shows that my AR's have a scope.?


EDIT: This is an edit in response to the follow up posts in the rest of this thread.
The Reason as I Recall the removal of the scope went like this.

CCP didn't have ranges on the AR's & we also had 2 SKILLS called SHARPSHOOTER that extended the ranges (currently that 1 skill now controls dispersion or kick I don't remember right now which one it covers), so with the scope we had prior to its removal, a BREACH variant could have ALMOST the same range as the Tacticals. Now instead of being ready with the new range system CCP decided to gimp the problem by forcing us to use the Iron Sights after taking away the ORIGINAL Sharpshooter skills (note plural) and thus reduce our long range game; this resulted in the tacticals quickly becoming FOTM and with the nerf to them and the amount of ammo in their clip the problem for them was "solved".

The reason why some of us AR users can DEAL with the not having a reflex dot or a acog and is because for 9 months our AR's had a nice scope and we could remember how and from where we could get the same type of kills. Then about 2 -3 months ago ccp worked the ranges into the mix.

The IRON Sights is a P.O.S. and now that LR with its longer range is making a resurgence why can AR's not get at least the same ability to track an enemy or get more than a lucky headshot in.

great! now can we get a difference in dmg and range with the std, adv and proto versions?

The clip size wasn't the problem. It was the freaking ROF that modded controller took advantage of.

Realistically there is no reason for traditional scopes on ANY of these weapons with the possible exclusion of the sniper rifle. I mean, we are inside sealed dropsuits and are looking through lenses already, how could the suits optics not simply link up with the gun "sight"? Yes, yes, I know, it's a standard convention to use sights like this in FPS but seriously, any type of iron sight, or any sight that would significantly obscure your view of the battlefield makes no sense!

So when are ARs going to get red dots? I'd like to think that 26000 years in the future, man kind has figured out that they help everyone shoot better.

the DMG on LR is optimal IMO
having one complex DMG mod and proficiency lv 5 is enough to burn anyone again IMO and i'm using LR from beginning of uprising, yes straight post nerf.

change to scope from iron sight is justified as a mid to long range weapon but little zoom would be even better.

the only thing that is mandatory , again IMO, for this weapon is rotation speed while aiming, for medium range mostly.
this is a light weapon a rifle and it feels like heavy cannon "lazor" while aiming.

would be nice to get back, as an effect on enemy, blinding light blurring the screen in the color of laser beam while you hit enemy close to head, as a normal light based weapon would do beside the burn effect ;)

overall good stuff for LR operators !

Hey guys

I've got some new screenshots of the Laser Rifle scope coming in Uprising 1.4 from Team Kong. One of the things we felt was holding the Laser Rifle back was it's scope, which was hard to use and obscured your view when aiming down the sights. So we decided to switch out the old iron sights with a red dot.

[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64954/1/12.jpg[/img]

[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64954/1/13.jpg[/img]

[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64954/1/lr116.JPG[/img]

What do you think?

\o/

Now just make it useful again!

Good work


Still... don't think this is what you should be working on at the moment...

beats me...

That's perfect actually, as long as the muzzle flash doesn't distort the aiming like the scrambler rifle does

and on that note, please fix the scrambler rifle muzzle flash so it doesn't blind you when you aim down the sights

Where is my AR scope.... I mean the dropsuit fitting screen shows that my AR's have a scope.?


EDIT: This is an edit in response to the follow up posts in the rest of this thread.
The Reason as I Recall the removal of the scope went like this.

CCP didn't have ranges on the AR's & we also had 2 SKILLS called SHARPSHOOTER that extended the ranges (currently that 1 skill now controls dispersion or kick I don't remember right now which one it covers), so with the scope we had prior to its removal, a BREACH variant could have ALMOST the same range as the Tacticals. Now instead of being ready with the new range system CCP decided to gimp the problem by forcing us to use the Iron Sights after taking away the ORIGINAL Sharpshooter skills (note plural) and thus reduce our long range game; this resulted in the tacticals quickly becoming FOTM and with the nerf to them and the amount of ammo in their clip the problem for them was "solved".

The reason why some of us AR users can DEAL with the not having a reflex dot or a acog and is because for 9 months our AR's had a nice scope and we could remember how and from where we could get the same type of kills. Then about 2 -3 months ago ccp worked the ranges into the mix.

The IRON Sights is a P.O.S. and now that LR with its longer range is making a resurgence why can AR's not get at least the same ability to track an enemy or get more than a lucky headshot in.

And give you guys another advantage? I don't think so.

Also, laser snipers are on the way.

Hey guys

I've got some new screenshots of the Laser Rifle scope coming in Uprising 1.4 from Team Kong. One of the things we felt was holding the Laser Rifle back was it's scope, which was hard to use and obscured your view when aiming down the sights. So we decided to switch out the old iron sights with a red dot.

[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64954/1/12.jpg[/img]

[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64954/1/13.jpg[/img]

[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64954/1/lr116.JPG[/img]

What do you think?

Answer: Because ARs would be OP with a scope.

Until they actually have recoil in ADS, an AR with a scope would be the ultimate weapon.
Remember when the full auto ARs had sniper sights back in Replication and before?
Give that to ARs today and they would be OP, or at least give ARs the same recoil as Assault Scrambler Rifles before you do.

Or, to make sure everything is even, allow weapons sights to be swapped on weapons.

The "red dot" (or is it yellow) sight will help the Laser Rifle significantly, let's see how well the LR performs after the update. It may not even need a damage increase if all goes well.

Hey guys

I've got some new screenshots of the Laser Rifle scope coming in Uprising 1.4 from Team Kong. One of the things we felt was holding the Laser Rifle back was it's scope, which was hard to use and obscured your view when aiming down the sights. So we decided to switch out the old iron sights with a red dot.

[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64954/1/12.jpg[/img]

[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64954/1/13.jpg[/img]

[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64954/1/lr116.JPG[/img]

What do you think?

should show realtime distance when using laser
on the scope
for lazery accurate details

so its easier to keep it at optimal range.

That's perfect actually, as long as the muzzle flash doesn't distort the aiming like the scrambler rifle does

and on that note, please fix the scrambler rifle muzzle flash so it doesn't blind you when you aim down the sights

Can my shotty have a 8x sight? I can be op then.

Hey guys

I've got some new screenshots of the Laser Rifle scope coming in Uprising 1.4 from Team Kong. One of the things we felt was holding the Laser Rifle back was it's scope, which was hard to use and obscured your view when aiming down the sights. So we decided to switch out the old iron sights with a red dot.

[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64954/1/12.jpg[/img]

[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64954/1/13.jpg[/img]

[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64954/1/lr116.JPG[/img]

What do you think?

I'm guessing the scope alone is the sole contents of the 1.5 expansion?

Can you not give us the options of scopes on all guns?

Where is my AR scope.... I mean the dropsuit fitting screen shows that my AR's have a scope.?


EDIT: This is an edit in response to the follow up posts in the rest of this thread.
The Reason as I Recall the removal of the scope went like this.

CCP didn't have ranges on the AR's & we also had 2 SKILLS called SHARPSHOOTER that extended the ranges (currently that 1 skill now controls dispersion or kick I don't remember right now which one it covers), so with the scope we had prior to its removal, a BREACH variant could have ALMOST the same range as the Tacticals. Now instead of being ready with the new range system CCP decided to gimp the problem by forcing us to use the Iron Sights after taking away the ORIGINAL Sharpshooter skills (note plural) and thus reduce our long range game; this resulted in the tacticals quickly becoming FOTM and with the nerf to them and the amount of ammo in their clip the problem for them was "solved".

The reason why some of us AR users can DEAL with the not having a reflex dot or a acog and is because for 9 months our AR's had a nice scope and we could remember how and from where we could get the same type of kills. Then about 2 -3 months ago ccp worked the ranges into the mix.

The IRON Sights is a P.O.S. and now that LR with its longer range is making a resurgence why can AR's not get at least the same ability to track an enemy or get more than a lucky headshot in.

Must have taken ages to design that scope.

Dude, sorry but complaining with an AR, seriously?
Your weapon has nearly no kick, a range with which you can step up with every single weapon except for the Sniper rifles, you have such a great precision on that weapon and this combined with a very nice dmg.

Now you DARE to complain that the LR which is MADE for that distance gets an aiming system which makes it atleast usable again?Seriously? After the LR got nerfed even way over death, while your AR is still the weapon to go for?

The regular AR is meant for SHORT ranges within the AR/LR/SCR/etc... range, so no, no scope for you, sorry bro.

Well aren't you just a ball of misinformation, why can the other weapons get devices that make them more effective in their ranges while I have to use the Prescision offered by a P.O.S. IRON SIGHT? Let me use the distance I do have in the most effective manor. (Of course youtube would be filled with vids of players asking why they have to shoot in front or behind an enemy or how the shots could have missed with the dot right on the enemy). Since so many people are AR users as you and those like you claim, would it be more likely to benefit more players by giving us a scope then.

According to the same post that discusses the range on the weapons ccp took a very casaual approach, sure it is a short range weapon they say the militia one goes for 40 meters or so.... I want to know why I don't know the numbers without having to go into a match and notice the information on the bottom of my screen, sure ccp plays the pronoun game and keeps everyone in the dark so they can monkey with the numbers without having to explain it. Range 40m max 60m, but no ccp keep it to short , medium and long without detailing just what distances those ranges comprise.

I know you know not of what you speak of because of the simple fact that on Line Harvest Map from the top of the Pyramid like structures in the north to the top of the TABLE is more than 80meters, my ohhh so long range tasctical AR does not do enemies damage if I stand on either structure and shoot at an enemy on the other. Additionally it is longer than 50 meters from the ground to the table top on the same map, so while everyone with a laser rifle, mass driver, forge gun, sniper rifle, flaylock pistol and plasma cannon can outrange me at will from an elevated position... ccp's only response has been your tired excuse the AR is too good.

Keep jumping on the ccp bandwagon, as I recall CCP had tons of data about the Laser NERF mostly from the fishbowl manus peaks map that ended up looking like a Pink Floyd Laser Light Show.

This is starting to feel like a troll post, shouldn't you also be stating that the Nano-hives need to be nerfed and that a player can throw a grenade 50 meters and that murder taxi's are fine, or better yet like I keep asking others, crack open that crystal ball you keep to let you know what will be FOTM and nerfed as I don't want to waste my SP on things that will get nerfed so I choose the AR. Which has had the scope removed, the range extender skills removed, the fire rate reduced (except for the mouse as ccp can't program that in to all the ones that they have approved for use with dust, while the PS3 controller can easily be manipulated) and a POS Iron Sights that is only useable 1 out of 5 firefights.

Lose the yellow tint and give me a clear sight with red dot. Oh and a respec so I can go proto Amarr assault

That's perfect actually, as long as the muzzle flash doesn't distort the aiming like the scrambler rifle does

and on that note, please fix the scrambler rifle muzzle flash so it doesn't blind you when you aim down the sights

Oh no if they fix that then assault scrambler rifles will be OP

damn, am i the only person who liked the iron sights ???? without a damage buff to the Elm-7 and Viziam, it costs way to much Isk to use my Laser setup just to be owned by any guy who gets close