DUST Search - New Laser Rifle Scope, coming soon

Jathniel wrote:

Wakko03 wrote:

Where is my AR scope.... I mean the dropsuit fitting screen shows that my AR's have a scope.?

EDIT: This is an edit in response to the follow up posts in the rest of this thread.
The Reason as I Recall the removal of the scope went like this.

CCP didn't have ranges on the AR's & we also had 2 SKILLS called SHARPSHOOTER that extended the ranges (currently that 1 skill now controls dispersion or kick I don't remember right now which one it covers), so with the scope we had prior to its removal, a BREACH variant could have ALMOST the same range as the Tacticals. Now instead of being ready with the new range system CCP decided to gimp the problem by forcing us to use the Iron Sights after taking away the ORIGINAL Sharpshooter skills (note plural) and thus reduce our long range game; this resulted in the tacticals quickly becoming FOTM and with the nerf to them and the amount of ammo in their clip the problem for them was "solved".

The reason why some of us AR users can DEAL with the not having a reflex dot or a acog and is because for 9 months our AR's had a nice scope and we could remember how and from where we could get the same type of kills. Then about 2 -3 months ago ccp worked the ranges into the mix.

The IRON Sights is a P.O.S. and now that LR with its longer range is making a resurgence why can AR's not get at least the same ability to track an enemy or get more than a lucky headshot in.

Answer: Because ARs would be OP with a scope.

Until they actually have recoil in ADS, an AR with a scope would be the ultimate weapon.
Remember when the full auto ARs had sniper sights back in Replication and before?
Give that to ARs today and they would be OP, or at least give ARs the same recoil as Assault Scrambler Rifles before you do.

Or, to make sure everything is even, allow weapons sights to be swapped on weapons.

The "red dot" (or is it yellow) sight will help the Laser Rifle significantly, let's see how well the LR performs after the update. It may not even need a damage increase if all goes well.

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Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 491	Posted - 2013.08.01 13:22:00 - [91] - Quote As someone who ditched the Laser in Uprising, this is looking good again! Once it's in game I'll have to drop a few SP into it and climb onto the nearest table top.
Support Sgt Sparky DUST University Ivy League 0	Posted - 2013.08.01 18:53:00 - [92] - Quote Looks awesome! Now please make it as useful as it was pre-uprising. I can't kill anything, even a militia light minnatar with militia shields for crying out loud.
Levithunder Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 23	Posted - 2013.08.01 19:02:00 - [93] - Quote Anyone asking for more DMG output the laser doesn't need it if you have 1-2 complex DMG mods and LR profincey level five yur getting a 25-35% increase on damage at 25% your doing about 21 hp a shot at 35% about 22-23 the proto LR only did 20 hp back in chrome soo if you had 1 DMG mod in chrome it was 22hp so we are now doing about the same DMG in chrome and LAST thing we want is another LR nerf the better scope and tracking speed is all we've needed my laser brothers went 27-0 with the elm-7 yesterday:)
Vin Vicious Capital Acquisitions LLC 206	Posted - 2013.08.01 23:33:00 - [94] - Quote I feel like the zoom needs to be better, it looks to me the SCR,ASCR,TAC,AR and the LR all have the same zoom distance, but the LR,TAR and SCR are suspose to be long range weapons. To answer your question about the red dot, looks good
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1442	Posted - 2013.08.02 01:10:00 - [95] - Quote Lasers don't need more damage, better ADS tracking and a scope is all that is needed. 1.4 will be the birth of many many lasers are OP again threads I'm sure.
Zene Ren Bullet Cluster 4	Posted - 2013.08.02 12:32:00 - [96] - Quote the DMG on LR is optimal IMO having one complex DMG mod and proficiency lv 5 is enough to burn anyone again IMO and i'm using LR from beginning of uprising, yes straight post nerf. change to scope from iron sight is justified as a mid to long range weapon but little zoom would be even better. the only thing that is mandatory , again IMO, for this weapon is rotation speed while aiming, for medium range mostly. this is a light weapon a rifle and it feels like heavy cannon "lazor" while aiming. would be nice to get back, as an effect on enemy, blinding light blurring the screen in the color of laser beam while you hit enemy close to head, as a normal light based weapon would do beside the burn effect ;) overall good stuff for LR operators !
Dao Ferret BetaMax. 193	Posted - 2013.08.02 15:10:00 - [97] - Quote sammus420 wrote: So when are ARs going to get red dots? I'd like to think that 26000 years in the future, man kind has figured out that they help everyone shoot better. I love reading these, considering that early in the beta there were ONLY red-dot scopes and CCP changed things to include Iron-Sights because log of CoD&MAG players were demanding them. Honestly, It'd be nice if we got to the point that Scope was an option (with different scopes offering different play style choices in terms of zoom and style of scope, leaving aside any sort of damage or to-hit modifier).
ahumar nexrad Anthrax Solutions Mildly Intoxicated 2	Posted - 2013.08.02 16:03:00 - [98] - Quote Zene Ren wrote: the DMG on LR is optimal IMO having one complex DMG mod and proficiency lv 5 is enough to burn anyone again IMO and i'm using LR from beginning of uprising, yes straight post nerf. change to scope from iron sight is justified as a mid to long range weapon but little zoom would be even better. the only thing that is mandatory , again IMO, for this weapon is rotation speed while aiming, for medium range mostly. this is a light weapon a rifle and it feels like heavy cannon "lazor" while aiming. would be nice to get back, as an effect on enemy, blinding light blurring the screen in the color of laser beam while you hit enemy close to head, as a normal light based weapon would do beside the burn effect ;) overall good stuff for LR operators ! i agree Zene!!!
Sneaky Fletcher DUST University Ivy League 25	Posted - 2013.08.02 16:53:00 - [99] - Quote Good work Still... don't think this is what you should be working on at the moment... beats me...
Jungian Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 118	Posted - 2013.08.02 18:50:00 - [100] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Hey guys I've got some new screenshots of the Laser Rifle scope coming in Uprising 1.4 from Team Kong. One of the things we felt was holding the Laser Rifle back was it's scope, which was hard to use and obscured your view when aiming down the sights. So we decided to switch out the old iron sights with a red dot. [img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64954/1/12.jpg[/img] [img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64954/1/13.jpg[/img] [img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64954/1/lr116.JPG[/img] What do you think? Now give all AR's the same scope and I'll start thinking.

godhands9 Black Phoenix Mercenaries 13	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:46:00 - [101] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: \o/ Now just make it useful again! dude i looked down after the pics. and seen this post and laughed my asss off...i also said the other day in a post that..in the old build the lasers were like mega o.p. but when they fixed it they really suk i mean i would actually grab one if they tweak it a little bit...nice new sights tho
godhands9 Black Phoenix Mercenaries 14	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:47:00 - [102] - Quote Sneaky Fletcher wrote: Good work Still... don't think this is what you should be working on at the moment... beats me... true that brother true that.
General Erick Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 54	Posted - 2013.08.03 08:23:00 - [103] - Quote King Kobrah wrote: That's perfect actually, as long as the muzzle flash doesn't distort the aiming like the scrambler rifle does and on that note, please fix the scrambler rifle muzzle flash so it doesn't blind you when you aim down the sights And give you guys another advantage? I don't think so. Also, laser snipers are on the way.
Jathniel G I A N T EoN. 743	Posted - 2013.08.03 08:40:00 - [104] - Quote Wakko03 wrote: Where is my AR scope.... I mean the dropsuit fitting screen shows that my AR's have a scope.? EDIT: This is an edit in response to the follow up posts in the rest of this thread. The Reason as I Recall the removal of the scope went like this. CCP didn't have ranges on the AR's & we also had 2 SKILLS called SHARPSHOOTER that extended the ranges (currently that 1 skill now controls dispersion or kick I don't remember right now which one it covers), so with the scope we had prior to its removal, a BREACH variant could have ALMOST the same range as the Tacticals. Now instead of being ready with the new range system CCP decided to gimp the problem by forcing us to use the Iron Sights after taking away the ORIGINAL Sharpshooter skills (note plural) and thus reduce our long range game; this resulted in the tacticals quickly becoming FOTM and with the nerf to them and the amount of ammo in their clip the problem for them was "solved". The reason why some of us AR users can DEAL with the not having a reflex dot or a acog and is because for 9 months our AR's had a nice scope and we could remember how and from where we could get the same type of kills. Then about 2 -3 months ago ccp worked the ranges into the mix. The IRON Sights is a P.O.S. and now that LR with its longer range is making a resurgence why can AR's not get at least the same ability to track an enemy or get more than a lucky headshot in. Answer: Because ARs would be OP with a scope. Until they actually have recoil in ADS, an AR with a scope would be the ultimate weapon. Remember when the full auto ARs had sniper sights back in Replication and before? Give that to ARs today and they would be OP, or at least give ARs the same recoil as Assault Scrambler Rifles before you do. Or, to make sure everything is even, allow weapons sights to be swapped on weapons. The "red dot" (or is it yellow) sight will help the Laser Rifle significantly, let's see how well the LR performs after the update. It may not even need a damage increase if all goes well.
Jathniel G I A N T EoN. 743	Posted - 2013.08.03 08:41:00 - [105] - Quote General Erick wrote: King Kobrah wrote: That's perfect actually, as long as the muzzle flash doesn't distort the aiming like the scrambler rifle does and on that note, please fix the scrambler rifle muzzle flash so it doesn't blind you when you aim down the sights And give you guys another advantage? I don't think so. Also, laser snipers are on the way. I agree. But what "laser snipers" are you referring to? Typically the laser rifle already had a similar function.
Jathniel G I A N T EoN. 743	Posted - 2013.08.03 08:45:00 - [106] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Hey guys I've got some new screenshots of the Laser Rifle scope coming in Uprising 1.4 from Team Kong. One of the things we felt was holding the Laser Rifle back was it's scope, which was hard to use and obscured your view when aiming down the sights. So we decided to switch out the old iron sights with a red dot. [img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64954/1/12.jpg[/img] [img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64954/1/13.jpg[/img] [img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64954/1/lr116.JPG[/img] What do you think? Can we post images in threads too please?
Wakko03 Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 307	Posted - 2013.08.04 03:10:00 - [107] - Quote Jathniel wrote: Wakko03 wrote: Where is my AR scope.... I mean the dropsuit fitting screen shows that my AR's have a scope.? EDIT: This is an edit in response to the follow up posts in the rest of this thread. The Reason as I Recall the removal of the scope went like this. CCP didn't have ranges on the AR's & we also had 2 SKILLS called SHARPSHOOTER that extended the ranges (currently that 1 skill now controls dispersion or kick I don't remember right now which one it covers), so with the scope we had prior to its removal, a BREACH variant could have ALMOST the same range as the Tacticals. Now instead of being ready with the new range system CCP decided to gimp the problem by forcing us to use the Iron Sights after taking away the ORIGINAL Sharpshooter skills (note plural) and thus reduce our long range game; this resulted in the tacticals quickly becoming FOTM and with the nerf to them and the amount of ammo in their clip the problem for them was "solved". The reason why some of us AR users can DEAL with the not having a reflex dot or a acog and is because for 9 months our AR's had a nice scope and we could remember how and from where we could get the same type of kills. Then about 2 -3 months ago ccp worked the ranges into the mix. The IRON Sights is a P.O.S. and now that LR with its longer range is making a resurgence why can AR's not get at least the same ability to track an enemy or get more than a lucky headshot in. Answer: Because ARs would be OP with a scope. Until they actually have recoil in ADS, an AR with a scope would be the ultimate weapon. Remember when the full auto ARs had sniper sights back in Replication and before? Give that to ARs today and they would be OP, or at least give ARs the same recoil as Assault Scrambler Rifles before you do. Or, to make sure everything is even, allow weapons sights to be swapped on weapons. The "red dot" (or is it yellow) sight will help the Laser Rifle significantly, let's see how well the LR performs after the update. It may not even need a damage increase if all goes well. AR with scopes would not be op, keep telling yourself that, you can't even shoot from the table top to the northern pyramid like structures in line harvest, why must my aiming being limited while everyone and everything else gets made better, the iron sight is a joke and so is the discussion about why they don't have a scope or sight. I stand by my assertion that without the original sharpshooter skills range increase you guys are trying to defend a LASER Rifles chance to become FOTM.
IMMORTAL WAR HERO TheLastLegionOfHeroes 6	Posted - 2013.08.04 04:38:00 - [108] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Hey guys I've got some new screenshots of the Laser Rifle scope coming in Uprising 1.4 from Team Kong. One of the things we felt was holding the Laser Rifle back was it's scope, which was hard to use and obscured your view when aiming down the sights. So we decided to switch out the old iron sights with a red dot. [img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64954/1/12.jpg[/img] [img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64954/1/13.jpg[/img] [img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64954/1/lr116.JPG[/img] What do you think? that looks realy nice I like the idea of sights on guns but I like the iron sights on lazer rifle could we mabey get a choice as to werther or not we can remove or attatch gun sight on the spot like crisis...... or atleast be able to do it in dropsuit customization example is battlefield 3 I like using the semi auto sniper sks with iron sight and I like it since it reminds me of the ak7 which is not automatic but semi
AP Grasshopper Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.08.04 11:16:00 - [109] - Quote Stop adding/removing/changing whether a weapon has a scope, iron sight or reflex sight. CCP, Finish adding all the weapons and drop-suits in FIRST.Then after that's done consider making a patch where you can add, as a module assigned to the weapon slot, a racial optic identical to the racial weapon. Weapon is standard with iron-sight with the option of a Racial variant of red dot, Acog and sniper rifle optic to your weapon for a small price. Seriously this isn't hard to figure out then everyones happy, now how about hiring more developers... 100 more? Edit: New sight yeah right.
dustwaffle Gravity Prone EoN. 284	Posted - 2013.08.05 03:56:00 - [110] - Quote Those graphics look a lot better than mine do How do I get them?

Jungian Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 121	Posted - 2013.08.05 19:53:00 - [111] - Quote should show realtime distance when using laser on the scope for lazery accurate details so its easier to keep it at optimal range.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions 2884	Posted - 2013.08.06 06:38:00 - [112] - Quote Jungian wrote: should show realtime distance when using laser on the scope for lazery accurate details so its easier to keep it at optimal range. Sounds good to me.
FroO Bg SVER True Blood 11	Posted - 2013.08.06 13:01:00 - [113] - Quote I think it looks too much like the Scramble Rifle scope. But it's better than nothing. I would like a red dot. or something. PS: WHERE IS WEAPON COSTUMIZATION!? IT IS A MUST!!
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1399	Posted - 2013.08.07 19:09:00 - [114] - Quote I still think that because the Laser Rifle is long range that the scope should have a low power zoom. I mean, you can't call it a scope unless there is a zoom.
crispipin The Vanguardians 0	Posted - 2013.08.07 19:18:00 - [115] - Quote Questions: I've never seen that map before, is it a new one you're adding in 1.4? Is the laser rifle getting some love in 1.4? When are you releasing 1.4?
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3370	Posted - 2013.08.09 12:13:00 - [116] - Quote Just to clarify things for a few of you who seem confused. First image: 17m range, target has shields, 35% efficiency Third image: 17m range, target shields at 0, 23% efficiency Lasers deal more damage to shields than armour, so when a target still has shields, it makes sense that the weapon would have a better efficiency rating. First image: Range 17m, not aiming down sights Second image: Range 43m, ADS In spite of literally more than double the range, the target looks barely any further away in the second image. If you're saying that's not zooming in, you're not paying attention. The third image isn't the same size as the first 2, so it doesn't lend itself as well to comparison, but from the apparent differences in scale based on range, I'd guess approximately 1.5x zoom on the sight. Last, but definitely not least, LASER is an acronym for "Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation". No matter how insane your local variant of English may be, there is no English-speaking nation in existence where "Ztimulated" is a word, so there is no reason to call the weapon a "Lazer Rifle". Please refrain from doing so. You're welcome.
Severance Pay Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 870	Posted - 2013.08.09 23:49:00 - [117] - Quote Weaponnfittings pl0x
Planetside2PS4F2P Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 16	Posted - 2013.08.10 02:25:00 - [118] - Quote So scope for only 1 variation of gun? Sucky for anyone NOT using the useless lazer rifle.
Got malwarE Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 27	Posted - 2013.08.10 14:33:00 - [119] - Quote Love it! +1 ccp --GmE
Vitharr Foebane Blood Money Mercenaries 0	Posted - 2013.08.11 05:53:00 - [120] - Quote so when do us fatties get a heavy laser?



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