I am amazed, and saddened, by the overwhelming support for no sprint reloading. You guys actually call yourselves FPS players?

I still remember the first FPS game that allowed me to sprint and reload, Killzone 2, and I was blown away at how fluid and better the gameplay felt because of it. When I got KZ2 I came from playing mostly COD4, which did not allow for sprint reloading. Sprint reloading to me, felt like a high quality premium feature that few FPS games actually have, it was a breath of fresh air and felt liberating. It was different, unique, and made the gameplay and gunplay much more intense and satisfying. Hard to describe what I actually felt, but it was surprising to me, and I liked it... A LOT.

The ones who don't want it implemented either:

A) Have never played a competitive online FPS game with sprint reloading capability.
B) Are afraid it will make Dust more competitive and difficult when facing higher-caliber players.

Oh and LOL at people trying to relate real-life to video game realism Wow, really?

New Eden is far more seated in Science Fiction than Science Fantasy. Thus ergo any chance to take a fun poke at realism should be taken.

I also have to agree with the above poster side arms provides probably the only really easy means of reloading a gun because all of them have much smaller and easier to handle magazines, all larger guns you are very much more prone to dropping them.

There was one game I don't remember which that actually penalized you for reloading early because it remembers how much bullets you have in each magazine and there are times you had to sit down and actually 'combine' magazines. Also the number of maps determined how many bullets you have but also slowed you down a bit. At least in Dust 514 we shouldn't have to resort to that because of our internal magazine reloaders.

This hasn't been forgotten. It is on the current backlog of 'things to do', however we've not actually made a final decision on whether or not we want to do it yet. I'm happy to listen to arguments for and against here :-)

In a science fiction futuristic universe with highly advanced and highly coordinated super-soldiers, why shouldn't they have the ability to sprint-reload?

This seems more like a modern-day limitation, rather than a futuristic one.

Running and reloading would be nice, especially for scouts, they need every advantage they can get.

First off our guns are upsized and are much heavier than your average 5-14 lbs weapon, hell the HMG is clocking in probably at a 250 lbs + ammo weight.

Mass + Motion = more energy, thus swinging a heavier gun around gets unwieldy and is probably just as portionate to the current limitations as to why we don't fire guns while running either.

Well a few things I don't want to see make it into the game.

1. Quick Scoping
2. Reload cancelling for a massive advantage.

However the reload while running is not entirely as bad as the two above, however I would rather see reload 'bookmarks' as in you already removed the magazine before you cancelled why remove it a second time when you resume?

Three bookmarks, 1 removal of previous mag (if required) 2 Loading of new rounds 3 Priming gun for action again (if required) this would open up some guns to have more advantage over others ie hybrid guns don't need priming.

I mean how many of you have reloaded while running, as ex military myself they NEVER taught us to do that.

This hasn't been forgotten. It is on the current backlog of 'things to do', however we've not actually made a final decision on whether or not we want to do it yet. I'm happy to listen to arguments for and against here :-)

You could always consider making it possible but at a greatly reduced run speed. Then adding a skill which would restore some of the base sprint speed while reloading, maybe at a rate of +5% per level for a total 25% reduction in speed penalty at level 5.

Just a thought,
Cross

The reduction should made a role bonus for some suit though, scouts come to mind. I'm not looking forward to yet another core skill.

This hasn't been forgotten. It is on the current backlog of 'things to do', however we've not actually made a final decision on whether or not we want to do it yet. I'm happy to listen to arguments for and against here :-)

Afaik, not many games allow both sprint and reloading. And imo, it shouldnt be added. Make your choice, run or gun.

Afaik, not many games allow both sprint and reloading. And imo, it shouldnt be added. Make your choice, run or gun.

I am quite tempted to agree with you on that.

Speaking of realism. Do you realise that the whole concept of "clips" as it exists in modern shooters is complete bonkers anyway? We are not using clips, we are arbitrarily refilling our weapon with some arbitrary stock of extra bullets, that is animated as a clip replacement because that happens to look cool... If it was really a clip replacement, we would lose the remainder of bullets we still have in the current clip, and our extra ammunition would be displayed as number of clips rather than bullets.

I used to play tactical shooters which used actual clips, and that really added a level of strategic consideration. Do I risk getting into a firefight with these 12 bullets, or do I put in a new clip and waste them? Often we used our remaining bullets for suppressing fire or sprayed them into a chokepoint, before putting in a fresh clip.

Also, it is very hard to believe that our hightech clone mercs would not have come up with a more efficient way of feeding ammunition to their weapons than manually replacing the clip.

Let's face it, the only reason why we have reload in the game as it is, is because it's cool and a fun gameplay element that every modern shooter agrees on. And that's why gameplay should be the only consideration in this discussion. Once you bring in reality, you're lost.

If you think it's so easy, try to change a magazine in an AK while running at full sprint while wearing a suit of armor. I bet it's pretty ******* hard.

I don't see how this feature would add anything meaningful to the game, and in fact I have a strong suspicion it would be very bad and **** a lot of people off. You could make the argument that it could be good for scouts only seeing as their speed is their only defensive mechanism, but I still think it would be a detriment to the game.

Scouts speed isn't a defence. Greater hit box while running. And it's only a little faster than a assault suit. Not much