WP/hive??? What do you mean? The Warpoints you could get for healing teammates with a nanohive?

The problem is that you'll probably be repairing more HP than you will get wp for.

After a few triage cycles (5 or so) a cool down timer starts that stops you from getting/farming wp from healing. Remaining cycles won't give wp.

After a few triage cycles (5 or so) a cool down timer starts that stops you from getting/farming wp from healing. Remaining cycles won't give wp.

Any1 can help me here, maybe a dev, or some1...

Really often, my Allotek hive stop giving me ammo after a few cycles, it still gives me armor but no amo. Any1 have this too? Is this a bugg or it is that way by design?

Anyway, that is really annoying, coz it kind of happen only when u really need that fused nade to resuply to blow a guy right next to you lol.

Cheers

From what i understand...

A nano hive has a max pool of nanites... and releases a wave every cycle

That cycle can either repair or resuply, but uses the same amount of nanites for both and regardless of how much is resupplied or repaired

This is incorrect. As the discussion in this thread has already showed a cycle of armor repair actually uses 3 nanites and then different weapons have different nanite costs which hasn't even been covered in this thread.

This is incorrect. As the discussion in this thread has already showed a cycle of armor repair actually uses 3 nanites and then different weapons have different nanite costs which hasn't even been covered in this thread.

ok so what your saying is that i can only resupply my forge gun X times but my assault rifle Y times... based on the same Nano hive...?

I thought this was balalanced through the ammount of ammo given (2-3 a cycle for a FG, 60 something for AR) but you get the same ammount of cycles each...?

and on the same lines you only get X cycles repairing and Y cycles resupplying...?

ok so what your saying is that i can only resupply my forge gun X times but my assault rifle Y times... based on the same Nano hive...?

I thought this was balalanced through the ammount of ammo given (2-3 a cycle for a FG, 60 something for AR) but you get the same ammount of cycles each...?

and on the same lines you only get X cycles repairing and Y cycles resupplying...?

Keeping in mind that my understanding might be wrong, this is how I understand Nanohives to work:

• Nanohives have a store of nanites.
• The store of nanites is used to replenish armor, ammo, and grenades.
• Nanohives have a rate at which they replenish armor.
• Nanohives have a seperate rate at which they replenish ammo.
• Nanohives have a set amount of nanites used per armor repair cycle.
• Weapons and grenades have a per type set amount of nanites required to fully restore their ammo.
• Both ammo, grenades, and armor take from the same single store of nanites.

Example:
Nanohive:

• Armor repair: 0
• Ammo replenish rate: 10%
• Store of nanites: 36
• Armor repair nanite cost: 0

Wiyrkomi Triage Nanohive:

• Armor repair: 70
• Ammo replenish rate: 0%
• Store of nanites: 101
• Armor repair nanite cost: 3

Locus Grenade:

• Max ammo: 3
• Total ammo nanite cost: 24

Breach Mass Driver

• Max ammo: 18
• Total ammo nanite cost: 16

Just to give a few examples.

beautiful. Thanks

hm.. so time for testing.. im guessing nades have per cluster value of 8, making it so the advanced+ give a max of 9 of them(per hive). time for random nade tossing

tested k-2=9 nades
flaylock= 36 cycles so 2 per cluster

I don't see a grenade with k-2 in the name... what's the full name of it?

And which Nanohive are you doing this testing with?

that was the hive i used.

OK, good I am not insane.

The K-2 Nanohive has a store of 72 nanites.
The Locus Grenade should take 24 nanites to full reload and there is a max ammo of 3.

72 nanites / 24 nanite requirement = 3 full reloads
3 full relocates * 3 max ammo count = 9 grenades

All Flaylocks have an ammo refill nanite cost of 8 across the board but different max ammo counts.

I"m not sure if we are getting our terms confused here, but to me it makes sense to say "____ weapon uses ___ clusters per cycle."

However, when CCP FoxFour says that 'all flaylocks have a nanite cost of 8 across the board' that makes me wonder if this isn't the case. If it takes 8 clusters to fill any flaylock, but they all have different amounts of max ammo, then this wont be the case.

Example:

Nanohive A: Fills 10% per cycle
Nanohive B: Fills 15% per cycle
Nanohive C: Fills 20% per cycle

Weapon v.1: 200 ammo, 24 nanites to fill
Weapon v.2: 275 ammo, 24 nanites to fill

Are we saying that:

1) The database doesn't recognize the cycle cost of cluster for an ammo type, but the total fill cost for a full clip/reserve in clusters?

2) In the above scenario-

nanohive A: 10 cycles each at 2.4 clusters per cycle.
nanohive B: 7 cycles to fill @ 3.4 clusters per cycle
nanohive C it would be 5 cycles @ 4.8 clusters per cycle

In this scenario, I believe each hive is dispensing nanites per ammo at the same rate. However, this isn't how armor works. The math seems pretty certainly to go by clusters per cycle.

I"m not sure if we are getting our terms confused here, but to me it makes sense to say "____ weapon uses ___ clusters per cycle."

It appears that we say "it takes X amount of nanites to refill the weapon completely"
Lets stick with the flaylock as an example. For now I am going to completely ignore even the concept of skills and other modifiers.

The Flaylock Pistol has a mFireMode0_maxAmmoCount of 15.

It has the attribute mTotalAmmoNanitesCost, which I am taking to mean the number of nanites required to fully refill the weapon, set to 8.

Each Nanohive then has a different value for the rate at which it replenishes ammo. For the Nanohive this is 0.1, or 10%.

So if I understand the system correctly it would go something like this:
Max ammo * replenish rate = ammo restored per cycle
15 * 0.1 = 1.5 rockets restored per cycle

Total ammo nanite cost * replenish rate = nanite cost per cycle
8 * 0.1 = 0.8 nanites per cycle

I have no idea how rounding works for this, but that is how I understand it to work by just looking at the data.

the default is 21.