Looking forward to discussing this all with you guys! CCP Nullarbor is around as well to answer questions you guys might have. :D

Will Uprising 1.3 also improve technical issues we had in Planetary Conquest battles?

Tell us what you think in the comments below, he's here ready to chat with you about it!

The new defense system seems even more carebear than before.

Why should a single failed attack from one corp make a district impervious of attack from other corps for 2 days?

No, that is still 150.

Only thing that's missing is contracting out district battles, like being able to tell, "hey Corp X, please fight on my district".
I hope that's somewhere on True Grit's/CCP's roadmap also, because corp roles aren't enough for that.

Basically it means you guys are bad at math, calculating ROI, estimating risk, those kind of things... OR what it means is you just want to have fun... in a video game... Who knew? When balancing the original numbers we had a number for what we thought people would spend on gear during a battle. You guys blew those numbers out of the water, and kept fighting even though you were losing money. Not surprising really, in the moment to moment gameplay you are not thinking "these suits cost me X, I am going to make Y, is this worth it?" The thought process is more of a "WIN WIN WIN! WE WANNA WIN!" This is great! We just under estimated how much you guys would be willing to spend.

The new defense system seems even more carebear than before.

Why should a single failed attack from one corp make a district impervious of attack from other cops for 2 days?

Yeah, I think we really need to see a way to contract out district battles down the line and also open up Eve-side support to be pilots outside your corp or alliance. If we are going to get mercing going lets make it happen on both ends of the equation.

Only thing that's missing is contracting out district battles, like being able to tell, "hey Corp X, please fight on my district".
I hope that's somewhere on True Grit's/CCP's roadmap also, because corp roles aren't enough for that.

Sounds cool .
It solves some of the problems of PC

1) Reduce player burnout
2) It helps more corporations get into the fight. ( Probably get kicked out but still)
3) GRAPHSSSS


One thing I do see a problem is that with the lower Starter packs cost, won't Bigger alliances be able to buy Molden Heath?

Why are clone packs being sold with 100 clones, then? It seems rather pointless if two packs are required every time, IMHO.

Yeah, I think we really need to see a way to contract out district battles down the line and also open up Eve-side support to be pilots outside your corp or alliance. If we are going to get mercing going lets make it happen on both ends of the equation.

Here's some feedback. This line from the early part of the post confused the hell out of me. Maybe because it was a typo, maybe because Iceland is Bizzaro world, or maybe because I am not involved in PC and its all going over my head.


"Right now 90% of battles are started because of a clone move rather than a clone starter package."

"People WANT to fight, even if it means using clone starter packs with which they end up losing money."

Is the first sentence messed up, or is 10% starter pack usage way higher than normal and therefore this fact supports the second sentence?

You can only buy one per attack. So it means that clone starter pack fights will start with the attacker at 100 clones.

3 is a really big one and is why we are working on designing a system in which ISK is earned by members of corporations who own districts actively and corporations can TAX that.

3 is a really big one and is why we are working on designing a system in which ISK is earned by members of corporations who own districts actively and corporations can TAX that.

I think this still begs a question that was started here about when more districts can get started...

My tldr from that thread started by an Ahrendee Mercs Leader/CEO and continued by some other people was that...

1) There are many corps that either don't care or are ignorant of the math involved with PC and just want territory. They can fund their fun for as long as the size of their corp allows, and their proficiency in battle helps.
2) Because access to territory is limited they want more of it with gradations of difficulty and profit levels.
3) There is some illusion still about how lowsec and highsec work that even alliance leaders seem to not understand.

I think the logistics change will help to make different 'gradations' of space. Some areas will now see more 'battle churn' than other areas.

One thing though...with the longer curve that logistics/clone loss has now, I can't help but think that this is paving the way for more districts being opened. Are there lowsec districts in Molden Heath that are 20 jumps away? And I didn't catch to see you/CCP is adding back the cost of travel through highsec.

I'll be working on a little more math based analysis from this devblog in the future.

I think you should make clone packs for corps already in PC cost 80mil still and Corps not in PC 10-20 mil. You may worry about people abusing that system by making corps outside of PC just to hit a planet, but perhaps create a timer of a week for corps to enter PC.

Like you said, the barrier for large alliances to pay the 80 mil is not isk. So make them pay to have the "attack anywhere" advantage. I don't see many people utilizing their own districts for initial attacks.

Also attrition distance needs to be lessened a little bit. Like to echo the other guy that said there is no point to the chokes on the map if you can hit within 4 jumps at 100%. Example, those in egbinger can hit audesder at no penalty. So the fortification of your front lines is pointless.

I feel you need to have high attrition to start but then lower percentages as you move out. So 80% once you hit outside current system then go 70%, 2nd jump, 65%, 3rd jump and 65%, 65% 65% 60% 60% etc. Allow people to still hit really far out, but at a high clone cost, but still allow the ability to fortify your front lines.