"combat in new eden is fast, frantic and brutal" - way of the mercenary trailer

No im saying get into a squad and use flanking and cross fire. No amount of dancing will save you if you are in the middle of a killbox.

Strafing doesn't mean that tactics all of a sudden mean you throw tactics out the window they only work on those who have crap tactics and think that they somehow are playing tactically.
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So instead of two idiots dancing back and forth shooting at each other, we can have whole squads doing it?

Seems legit.

So instead of two idiots dancing back and forth shooting at each other, we can have whole squads doing it?

Seems legit.

I don't know, if aesthetics is the only problem you have with it, I think it's fine. Besides it increases scouts very limited survivability in the field

People who enjoy strafing secretly want to use shields and splash weapons

It's very legit actually, it's an fps player preference for higher skill fights.

What's not legit is the many low skill players at this game and their wanting to level everyone to that low skill.

Players like that have done tremendous harm to this game while trying to help themselves.

Without high strafe how does a new to dust but skilled fps player compete with proto gear?

Get good scrubs

#ProtectStrafing

I love how you can now tell the difference between people who play FPS games and those who people who came from Eve and claim to "play FPS games". Tracking shooters are supposed to have faster strafe speeds. CCP actually did a good thing here. People who think this is dumb.....dont play FPS games. This is what an FPS game is. This is not suppoed to be a space war sim and play like arma where you get shot once and your dead.

BTW if you want proof that this is what the game is supposed to be........check out the mechanics of the gameplay. CCP seriously has their head up their butts if they did not intend for this game to be a straffing shooter as all of their mechanics lean towards this aspect of FPS.

LOL at Cosgar I think he hit the nail on the head.......turn based FPS.......Dust could be a first!!

It's not a matter of being good. There was no reason to increase it in the first place.

So you accuse me of saying I only think about 1v1 gunfights, then you give me an example of squad vs 1, while ignoring squad vs squad?

That's what I'm saying. Two squad sized groups of players all just jumping left and right, shooting back and forth at each other, because strafing is how to tank damage instead of properly fitting your suit and being mindful of your cover. Nevermind that you can fit your suit to further enhance this advantage by using shield modules.

You all can argue, CCP just does their own thing anyways. I'll be killing most of you anyways, the rest of you will enjoy hopping back and forth and hitting my fatty. They should give me rollerskates.

It's not a matter of being good. There was no reason to increase it in the first place.

They arent supposed to DUH!!!

These noobs want the SP difference to mean that they can stomp any new player no matter their actual skill difference! Give it up these people are not going to be convinced. They want strafing speed nerfed so that they dont look so pathetic being unable to hit and kill the ppl they are shooting at.

It's directly a matter of being good.

Moving and aiming at moving targets, it's fps basics.

This is actually removing a nerf from October. Many many early beta players hated that nerf.

Correction - Scouts hated that nerf. No reason strafe speeds should be this high considering the amount of HP we have, it just further increases the disparity of Shields/Armor tanking and worse yet makes the roles harder to balance

I'd be more willing to listen to an arguement that strafing should modify bullet physics in nature similiar to movement's affect on grenade throwing, but the whole argument about a new component of the game effecting people's egos is such a BAD, BAD, TERRIBLE, POOR, and FOOLISH argument. If you really want to effect changes, learn how to make a compelling argument, or statement. The other guy's ego has absolutely no effect on physics of the gameplay.

Fast pace games should stick to PC. Seeing how kb/m is supported by CCP, faster movement speed will make this game horrible and only cater to the kb/m. I like to use my controller for console gaming so I can relax.

I just find it funny when talented players feel like they need game mechanics to help them appear even better. Anything to feel superior, I suppose

It's directly a matter of being good.

Moving and aiming at moving targets, it's fps basics.

This is actually removing a nerf from October. Many many early beta players hated that nerf.

lol yea no one should ever use game mechanics. Next time someone asks me to hack a pooitn i'm gonna tell them they a scrub and that I don't need game mechanics to help me play.

I'm also going to stand perfectly still while I aim (scratch that aiming is part of game mechanics and I don't need that cause i'm 1337)

Since this is obviously directed at me.

I was merely pointing out that most players that want this already do great for themselves, and tend to strut around showing off their E-Peen, hence my comment about Ego. If you actually go beyond seeing one comment of mine and assuming all of my comments are the same, then you would see that I actually do attempt to make arguments and statements for my point of view. I just happen to be getting jumped here, and I don't really even care what happens either way because this game is pretty easy for an FPS

I'm just expressing my concerns for the direction of the game since it hasn't been balanced around this style of gameplay over the past year, and suddenly we're back here right as CCP says they want to stop messing around with balance.

. The issue is that strafing is EFFECTIVE.

LOL, Plenty of pace and speed console FPS's and FPSers for that matter. If tracking with the right analog is an issue for you while strafing then thats a issue for you not the game.

So your approach to balancing armor vs shields is to gank the movement speed for EVERYONE. Brilliant. How about we actually balance the modules themselves.

Here a good balancing point. Remove the movement speed from armor but place a -% on base shiled or total shield and vice versa. Hmm maybe that gives the buff of one while at the expense of the other tank. And tanking both ends up having a break even point.

Not the best idea i admit but definitely better than reducing the movement speed of everyone just to balance around the slower movement speeds resultant of armor tanking.

The movement speeds were fine but I dont expect an IMP to listen to reason, let alone anyone that doesnt pad their ego. The issue between shields and armor is in the Dropsuit bonuses. Completely unrelated to this strafe speed BS that has absolutely broken Knives/Shotguns. Theyre useless now because even the hit detection doesntknow where the **** anyone really is and no amount of game development is going to fix hit box lag in an MMOFPS

Fast pace games should stick to PC. Seeing how kb/m is supported by CCP, faster movement speed will make this game horrible and only cater to the kb/m. I like to use my controller for console gaming so I can relax.