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Reiki Jubo Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 180	Posted - 2013.07.02 19:58:00 - [1] - Quote good job CCP, you didnt address the two worst issues while adding 1.2 and now logis can carry ammo, uplinks and remote explosives and logi LAVs are easier to drive so roadkill is now even more ez mode. dont u love it when 1 supre soldier can fill the roles it would normally take 3 people to do? I know I do. logis can carry everything while having more shields than anyone and having enough CPU and PG to carry proto everything no problem. and now? logis can also have as much armor as heavies or add reactive plates so they repair armor at over 10Hp a second!! i'm so glad the game is balanced.
Tyjus Vacca Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION 20	Posted - 2013.07.02 19:59:00 - [2] - Quote I have a corp battle tonight. I wonder if i'll see any logis in there
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 893	Posted - 2013.07.02 19:59:00 - [3] - Quote Oh, logi's turn is coming...
DeadlyAztec11 Max-Pain-inc 617	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:00:00 - [4] - Quote I like it, reminds me of COD. ~$1N-óGé¼rGé¼\|-Ñ, t(GÇó_--Ñ)
Azura Sakura Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 171	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:01:00 - [5] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: good job CCP, you didnt address the two worst issues while adding 1.2 and now logis can carry ammo, uplinks and remote explosives and logi LAVs are easier to drive so roadkill is now even more ez mode. dont u love it when 1 supre soldier can fill the roles it would normally take 3 people to do? I know I do. logis can carry everything while having more shields than anyone and having enough CPU and PG to carry proto everything no problem. and now? logis can also have as much armor as heavies or add reactive plates so they repair armor at over 10Hp a second!! i'm so glad the game is balanced. How would you balance logi suits? I can't think of anything, but imma be reading x_x
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4260	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:02:00 - [6] - Quote Lolgi's have always been a problem, it's just gotten more and more apparent as the builds roll out and more and more people realize that the support class is actually extremely good at combat while still soaking up lots of WP from all the equipment they can carry. I know I don't usually feel any fear when facing a proto of just about any suit type other than lolgi.
RKKR The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 150	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:02:00 - [7] - Quote Wait, couldn't we equip that stuff before 1.2?
Quill Killian Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 177	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:03:00 - [8] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: good job CCP, you didnt address the two worst issues while adding 1.2 and now logis can carry ammo, uplinks and remote explosives and logi LAVs are easier to drive so roadkill is now even more ez mode. dont u love it when 1 supre soldier can fill the roles it would normally take 3 people to do? I know I do. logis can carry everything while having more shields than anyone and having enough CPU and PG to carry proto everything no problem. and now? logis can also have as much armor as heavies or add reactive plates so they repair armor at over 10Hp a second!! i'm so glad the game is balanced. Logis are supposed to be able to carry a lot of equipment. That's what makes true logistics troopers just that, true logistics troopers. On a side note, logos that are loaded like that also have extremely expensive load outs. You kill a logi once or twice with that sort of load out, and you've essentially cost him/her any profit s/he would have made from the match. Heck, you might even force them into the red. In that case, the smart logi switches to cheaper loadouts. But God mode? Bah. Whatever. Logi builds are pretty unique, even more so now with the racial variants.
Jin Robot Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 1162	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:03:00 - [9] - Quote Logis have been able to and are supposed to be able to carry lots of equipment. Starting your thread with that was ridiculous.
Lt Royal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 48	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:03:00 - [10] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: good job CCP, logis can carry everything Have you had a chance at fitting out a proto logi yourself, including all the proto equipment like you say not to mention being more tanked than a heavy? I think not. You know how the saying goes: If you can't beat GÇÿem, join GÇÿem!

Prius Vecht Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 142	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:03:00 - [11] - Quote Tyjus Vacca wrote: I have a corp battle tonight. I wonder if i'll see any logis in there my spider sense is tingling. its saying................yes, yes 90% of the people playing will be in logis. just a guess tho
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 393	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:03:00 - [12] - Quote 1.2 wasn't a balance patch.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 126	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:04:00 - [13] - Quote Lose high / low slots and their HP needs to be somewhere between Light and Medium frame They need to be forced to play more tactical
Byozuma Kegawa Shining Flame Amarr Empire 148	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:11:00 - [14] - Quote I don't know what you are talking about... I logged on and my logistic fits haven't changed one bit. Was there some kind of something I'm missing here? Maybe it's that I'm using an advanced Amarr logistics, maybe that's it.
imma monsta OUT FOR BLOOD. 2	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:12:00 - [15] - Quote Somebody didn't take time to learn roles before picking his role...
Rogatien Merc Ill Omens EoN. 251	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:13:00 - [16] - Quote I could ... always? carry nanos, uplinks, and REs... right? Reiki Jubo wrote: ... and having enough CPU and PG to carry proto everything no problem. You're full of ****. Should have stopped while you were ahead. Regularly run a CPU mod with core IV and electronics V.
Rogatien Merc Ill Omens EoN. 251	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:14:00 - [17] - Quote Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Lose high / low slots and their HP needs to be somewhere between Light and Medium frame They need to be forced to play more tactical Your mom should be forced to do a lot of things, but she asked me not to make her do it and I was enough of a gentleman to agree. Why are you trying to force others to play a certain way? Let snipers snipe, let knifer's knife, let logi's do whatever it is they want to do... get over it.
Delano Deprasio Old Eden Republic 0	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:15:00 - [18] - Quote Just wait, they will be nerfed then all the logis will cry until they get a respec or quit then our day shall come.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 562	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:15:00 - [19] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: good job CCP, you didnt address the two worst issues while adding 1.2 and now logis can carry ammo, uplinks and remote explosives and logi LAVs are easier to drive so roadkill is now even more ez mode. dont u love it when 1 supre soldier can fill the roles it would normally take 3 people to do? I know I do. logis can carry everything while having more shields than anyone and having enough CPU and PG to carry proto everything no problem. and now? logis can also have as much armor as heavies or add reactive plates so they repair armor at over 10Hp a second!! i'm so glad the game is balanced. you say.. and 'now'... is this something they couldn't do before 1.2? What does 1.2 have to do with logis..?
Jin Robot Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 1163	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:15:00 - [20] - Quote Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Lose high / low slots and their HP needs to be somewhere between Light and Medium frame They need to be forced to play more tactical Logis need to be able to tank or they are useless. The problem is the damage they deal. Logistics as a class are not slayorz...but they are

Quill Killian Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 179	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:16:00 - [21] - Quote Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Lose high / low slots and their HP needs to be somewhere between Light and Medium frame They need to be forced to play more tactical Hell no. You force me to lose those slots and reduce my shields and armor even more, I'll be damned if I'm going to carry super-expensive equipment to support your butt on the battefield. You need to direct your anger at the folks who are using logistics suits as souped-up assault suits, not at the folks GÇö like me GÇö who are playing the logistics role as it's meant to be played.
Oso Peresoso RisingSuns 83	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:18:00 - [22] - Quote Rogatien Merc wrote: I could ... always? carry nanos, uplinks, and REs... right? Reiki Jubo wrote: ... and having enough CPU and PG to carry proto everything no problem. You're full of **. Should have stopped while you were ahead. Regularly run a CPU mod with core IV and electronics V. I wasn't aware that proto logis were required to fit proto equipment to reach heavy-level EHP. Really, no one is complaining that their UPLINKS are too good. This is about EHP. Quill Killian wrote: Hell no. You force me to lose those slots and reduce my shields and armor even more, I'll be damned if I'm going to carry super-expensive equipment to support your butt on the battefield. You need to direct your anger at the folks who are using logistics suits as souped-up assault suits**, not at the folks GÇö like me GÇö who are playing the logistics role as it's meant to be played. isn't the HP, and ONLY the HP that's making them behave like souped-up assault suits?
hooc roht Deep Space Republic Top Men. 164	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:19:00 - [23] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: good job CCP, you didnt address the two worst issues while adding 1.2 and now logis can carry ammo, uplinks and remote explosives and logi LAVs are easier to drive so roadkill is now even more ez mode. dont u love it when 1 supre soldier can fill the roles it would normally take 3 people to do? I know I do. logis can carry everything while having more shields than anyone and having enough CPU and PG to carry proto everything no problem. and now? logis can also have as much armor as heavies or add reactive plates so they repair armor at over 10Hp a second!! i'm so glad the game is balanced. Logi gets in gun duel with assault...both run out of ammo....logi reloads, assault switches weapon...logi dies. I can see the high and low slots being reduced on a logi so they are equal to assault...but that is pretty minor and only effects high end gear...which people mostly don't wear unless they are in a PC. Your complaints are a minor problem at best.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 126	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:25:00 - [24] - Quote Quill Killian wrote: Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Lose high / low slots and their HP needs to be somewhere between Light and Medium frame They need to be forced to play more tactical Hell no. You force me to lose those slots and reduce my shields and armor even more, I'll be damned if I'm going to carry super-expensive equipment to support your butt on the battefield. You need to direct your anger at the folks who are using logistics suits as souped-up assault suits, not at the folks GÇö like me GÇö who are playing the logistics role as it's meant to be played. Seems like I hit that nerve out of the park. Logis arent supposed to be frontline warriors and how else are we going to stop them from being that unless we slash some slots or lower their HP to feel less godly so they have to traverse the landscape more carefully. Assaults and Heavys are supposed to do head on battle, not scouts and logis!!!
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 894	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:25:00 - [25] - Quote I still think we should treat logis like a medic. Give them a sidearm for close range emergencies... they are a support platform not a combat platform.
Oso Peresoso RisingSuns 83	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:26:00 - [26] - Quote hooc roht wrote: Logi gets in gun duel with assault...both run out of ammo....logi reloads, assault switches weapon...logi dies. I can see the high and low slots being reduced on a logi so they are equal to assault...but that is pretty minor and only effects high end gear...which people mostly don't wear unless they are in a PC. Your complaints are a minor problem at best. This assumes the logi is in low shields by the time you need to reload, which usually isn't the case. Furthermore, you're describing a situation where the logi goes toe to toe with an assault and loses barely as if this is some sort of unintended terrible thing. Lastly, slots = HP. Period. The idea that adjusting slots is 'pretty minor' is ridiculous, since if you're low on CPU/PG you can shove in a lower-tier HP buffer module and still come out ahead. Also, what do you mean by "only effects high end gear?" As far as I'm concerned we are in fact only talking about the proto logis, which yes you see everywhere in instant battles. I don't think anyone is really complaining about STD and ADV logis, as they in fact DO have less HP than their assault counterparts.
Royce Kronos Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises 55	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:28:00 - [27] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: good job CCP, you didnt address the two worst issues while adding 1.2 and now logis can carry ammo, uplinks and remote explosives and logi LAVs are easier to drive so roadkill is now even more ez mode. dont u love it when 1 supre soldier can fill the roles it would normally take 3 people to do? I know I do. logis can carry everything while having more shields than anyone and having enough CPU and PG to carry proto everything no problem. and now? logis can also have as much armor as heavies or add reactive plates so they repair armor at over 10Hp a second!! i'm so glad the game is balanced. I'd like to see the stats of a logi out EHPing a heavy. The only logi with more shields than anyone else is the Caldari logi. Please be specific when you are QQing. Armor tanking is still broken, but we'll see. hooc roht wrote: Logi gets in gun duel with assault...both run out of ammo....logi reloads, assault switches weapon...logi dies. I can see the high and low slots being reduced on a logi so they are equal to assault...but that is pretty minor and only effects high end gear...which people mostly don't wear unless they are in a PC. Your complaints are a minor problem at best. "Logi gets in gun duel with assault... both run out of ammo... logi reloads, assault switches weapon... logi out strafes assault and kills him." I've done this soo many times. But yeah, coming up to an opponent with equal skill and gear, logi's will lose a 1v1 fight.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 126	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:29:00 - [28] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: I still think we should treat logis like a medic. Give them a sidearm for close range emergencies... they are a support platform not a combat platform. I dont think we have to go that far - If they want to roll around with a squad of AR's or a heavy or two and help with a ScR / AR / MD whatever that is fine. But they shouldnt be able to roll in like Chuck Norris, they should be part of that squad.
gandalgrey STRONG-ARMED BANDITS 15	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:29:00 - [29] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: I still think we should treat logis like a medic. Give them a sidearm for close range emergencies... they are a support platform not a combat platform. I am a logi but I do agree they should be limited to a side arm weapon only as that suit 7s only desined as a support role but they should still keep the shield or armour as we will jus be to squishy to do our job effectively.
superjoe360x D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 11	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:29:00 - [30] - Quote Killian are you saying they should direct anger at me. Yeah im an Amarr proto logi and I run as an assault supply and maybe touch of healing when Im not in a gun battle. I also can switch to my sidearm because my suit gets one and murder your assault suits. I have some PG and CPU issues and my suit cost 182,000 isk so if I lose it then it sux. My armor repair was already over 12 before these new plates came out. You assault guys can hate all day long while you sit in the redzone scared to come out but before you cry yourselves to sleep about logis understand one thing. You could have chosen a logi bro. So maybe you should make better decisions before you spend your points. Took me almost a whole day after my respect. Also my logi says its a frontline support role that is meant to be a combat logi suit. Read the suits next time before you put points into it. See you boys in your redzone.



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