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Quill Killian
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Posted - 2013.07.02 20:03:00 -
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Reiki Jubo wrote:good job CCP, you didnt address the two worst issues while adding 1.2 and now logis can carry ammo, uplinks and remote explosives and logi LAVs are easier to drive so roadkill is now even more ez mode. dont u love it when 1 supre soldier can fill the roles it would normally take 3 people to do? I know I do.
logis can carry everything while having more shields than anyone and having enough CPU and PG to carry proto everything no problem. and now? logis can also have as much armor as heavies or add reactive plates so they repair armor at over 10Hp a second!!
i'm so glad the game is balanced.
Logis are *supposed* to be able to carry a lot of equipment. That's what makes true logistics troopers just that, true logistics troopers.
On a side note, logos that are loaded like that also have extremely expensive load outs. You kill a logi once or twice with that sort of load out, and you've essentially cost him/her any profit s/he would have made from the match. Heck, you might even force them into the red. In that case, the smart logi switches to cheaper loadouts.
But God mode? Bah. Whatever. Logi builds are pretty unique, even more so now with the racial variants. |
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Posted - 2013.07.02 20:16:00 -
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Daxxis KANNAH wrote:Lose high / low slots and their HP needs to be somewhere between Light and Medium frame
They need to be forced to play more tactical
Hell no. You force me to lose those slots and reduce my shields and armor even more, I'll be damned if I'm going to carry super-expensive equipment to support your butt on the battefield.
You need to direct your anger at the folks who are using logistics suits as souped-up assault suits, not at the folks GÇö like me GÇö who are playing the logistics role as it's meant to be played.
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Posted - 2013.07.02 20:50:00 -
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Daxxis KANNAH wrote:Quill Killian wrote:Daxxis KANNAH wrote:Lose high / low slots and their HP needs to be somewhere between Light and Medium frame
They need to be forced to play more tactical Hell no. You force me to lose those slots and reduce my shields and armor even more, I'll be damned if I'm going to carry super-expensive equipment to support your butt on the battefield. You need to direct your anger at the folks who are using logistics suits as souped-up assault suits, not at the folks GÇö like me GÇö who are playing the logistics role as it's meant to be played.  Seems like I hit that nerve out of the park. Logis arent supposed to be frontline warriors and how else are we going to stop them from being that unless we slash some slots or lower their HP to feel less godly so they have to traverse the landscape more carefully. Assaults and Heavys are supposed to do head on battle, not scouts and logis!!!
Yes, but logis are also expected to supply nano hives to their team, keep their team repaired and, if necessary, revive downed teammates. That means logis have to remain near the front lines in order to do their jobs.
So, with that in mind, if you reduce their shielding and armor, plus cut their slots, you're *gutting* the role.
As I said earlier, there are certain racial varients of the logo suits that are more powerful than their logi counterparts in other races. Caldari comes immediately to my mind, at least if it's the armor and shielding (plus repair/recharge rates) that **** you off. |
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Posted - 2013.07.02 21:05:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:I still think we should treat logis like a medic.
Give them a sidearm for close range emergencies... they are a support platform not a combat platform.
Hmm. I'm not necessarily against this ... but, if this is ever enacted, I want the SP I sank into my weapons skills back, and I want the limit removed from repair points. After all, if a logistics trooper's ability to defend him/herself is hamstrung, then there needs to be another way to make up for that loss.
That said, I don't think CCP will ever do this. After all, from what I understand about EVE, logistics ships there are more than capable of defending themselves. So why would CCP hamstring its logistics players in Dust 514?
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superjoe360x wrote:Killian are you saying they should direct anger at me. Yeah im an Amarr proto logi and I run as an assault supply and maybe touch of healing when Im not in a gun battle. I also can switch to my sidearm because my suit gets one and murder your assault suits. I have some PG and CPU issues and my suit cost 182,000 isk so if I lose it then it sux. My armor repair was already over 12 before these new plates came out. You assault guys can hate all day long while you sit in the redzone scared to come out but before you cry yourselves to sleep about logis understand one thing. You could have chosen a logi bro. So maybe you should make better decisions before you spend your points. Took me almost a whole day after my respect. Also my logi says its a frontline support role that is meant to be a combat logi suit. Read the suits next time before you put points into it. See you boys in your redzone.
Naw. I was primarily thinking about players who really do use the logistics suits as souped-up assault suits, and don't do anything that's support-oriented at all. From what I can tell, those players primarily favor the Caldari logistics suit.
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