DUST Search - Logis + 1.2 = God Mode

hooc roht wrote:

Daxxis KANNAH wrote:

Quill Killian wrote:

Daxxis KANNAH wrote:

Lose high / low slots and their HP needs to be somewhere between Light and Medium frame

They need to be forced to play more tactical

Hell no. You force me to lose those slots and reduce my shields and armor even more, I'll be damned if I'm going to carry super-expensive equipment to support your butt on the battefield.

You need to direct your anger at the folks who are using logistics suits as souped-up assault suits, not at the folks GÇö like me GÇö who are playing the logistics role as it's meant to be played.

Seems like I hit that nerve out of the park.

Logis arent supposed to be frontline warriors and how else are we going to stop them from being that unless we slash some slots or lower their HP to feel less godly so they have to traverse the landscape more carefully.

Assaults and Heavys are supposed to do head on battle, not scouts and logis!!!

Where are the dead bodies? on the front line. where are the wounded needing to be healed? on the front line. where are the hevies needing that line of rev? on the front line. also where the hell do think scouts with nova knives and shot guns need to be if not the front line?

Proto logis probably need to have their modifier slots to be the same as proto assaults...but that is it. Logis are front line they just give up a weapons slot to carry more equipment. Your idea to make logis a worthless class is idiotic.


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Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 126	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:04:00 - [1] - Quote Lose high / low slots and their HP needs to be somewhere between Light and Medium frame They need to be forced to play more tactical
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 126	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:25:00 - [2] - Quote Quill Killian wrote: Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Lose high / low slots and their HP needs to be somewhere between Light and Medium frame They need to be forced to play more tactical Hell no. You force me to lose those slots and reduce my shields and armor even more, I'll be damned if I'm going to carry super-expensive equipment to support your butt on the battefield. You need to direct your anger at the folks who are using logistics suits as souped-up assault suits, not at the folks GÇö like me GÇö who are playing the logistics role as it's meant to be played. Seems like I hit that nerve out of the park. Logis arent supposed to be frontline warriors and how else are we going to stop them from being that unless we slash some slots or lower their HP to feel less godly so they have to traverse the landscape more carefully. Assaults and Heavys are supposed to do head on battle, not scouts and logis!!!
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 126	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:29:00 - [3] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: I still think we should treat logis like a medic. Give them a sidearm for close range emergencies... they are a support platform not a combat platform. I dont think we have to go that far - If they want to roll around with a squad of AR's or a heavy or two and help with a ScR / AR / MD whatever that is fine. But they shouldnt be able to roll in like Chuck Norris, they should be part of that squad.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 127	Posted - 2013.07.02 21:04:00 - [4] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Lose high / low slots and their HP needs to be somewhere between Light and Medium frame They need to be forced to play more tactical Logis need to be able to tank or they are useless. The problem is the damage they deal. Logistics as a class are not slayorz...but they are Why should a logi need to be able to tank??? Is that how medic / engineers work in other games. I believe the same way a scout has to play tactical by flanking and staying on the periphery, likewise a logi should have to roll with a squad for some protection, use cover more and stay away from the frontlines. My proposal was a quick and dirty fix. You can also add to that by giving them better speed and maybe more stamina but if they are suppose to drop equipment to support or hack and set explosives etc - why the need to tank? Roll with a squad and assist or lay do your job as they provide cover fire. Another way is to give them a sidearm only but I think that restricts them way more than taking away some HP and the ability to use those slots for evil
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 128	Posted - 2013.07.02 21:10:00 - [5] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Reiki Jubo wrote: good job CCP, you didnt address the two worst issues while adding 1.2 and now logis can carry ammo, uplinks and remote explosives and logi LAVs are easier to drive so roadkill is now even more ez mode. dont u love it when 1 supre soldier can fill the roles it would normally take 3 people to do? I know I do. logis can carry everything while having more shields than anyone and having enough CPU and PG to carry proto everything no problem. and now? logis can also have as much armor as heavies or add reactive plates so they repair armor at over 10Hp a second!! i'm so glad the game is balanced. Even with electronics and engineering maxed out logis still cannot fit proto everything without using cpu & pg upgrades. Jump in a logi suit and see how it feels to only have one side arm before you start complaining about them. With all respect - An AR or ScR is all you need in many situations. When I started playing this game in beta I hardly switched from my main. Now I am a scout and use knives or flaylock I do use my AR as well but when you have a gun with alot of ammo and the ability to tank up and drop nano's it isnt that big of a drawback. If it was we wouldnt have had the forum screaming bloody murder.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 128	Posted - 2013.07.02 21:19:00 - [6] - Quote hooc roht wrote: Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Quill Killian wrote: Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Lose high / low slots and their HP needs to be somewhere between Light and Medium frame They need to be forced to play more tactical Hell no. You force me to lose those slots and reduce my shields and armor even more, I'll be damned if I'm going to carry super-expensive equipment to support your butt on the battefield. You need to direct your anger at the folks who are using logistics suits as souped-up assault suits, not at the folks GÇö like me GÇö who are playing the logistics role as it's meant to be played. Seems like I hit that nerve out of the park. Logis arent supposed to be frontline warriors and how else are we going to stop them from being that unless we slash some slots or lower their HP to feel less godly so they have to traverse the landscape more carefully. Assaults and Heavys are supposed to do head on battle, not scouts and logis!!! Where are the dead bodies? on the front line. where are the wounded needing to be healed? on the front line. where are the hevies needing that line of rev? on the front line. also where the hell do think scouts with nova knives and shot guns need to be if not the front line? Proto logis probably need to have their modifier slots to be the same as proto assaults...but that is it. Logis are front line they just give up a weapons slot to carry more equipment. Your idea to make logis a worthless class is idiotic. LOL - well if that is true then lets give all frames the same number of slots and CPU / PG and be done with it
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 128	Posted - 2013.07.02 21:43:00 - [7] - Quote Dont know if that was to me or the op - but I am arguing on the principle and how it seems Logis have been given a place above others. It really seems as is Dust should be called Logi AR 514 but whatever. I agree about murder taxis but CCP should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time .... right? Both topics have enough threads anyways so I guess lets just go play.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 134	Posted - 2013.07.03 12:35:00 - [8] - Quote @ Cosgar - they have more HP than scouts. Caldari has more shields than Minmatar scout's combined shields and armor. Gallente Logi 270 to Gallente Scout 200. The % buffs on shields and armor skills give them even bigger advances given their base health. Then they have many slots than can be used to buff those. I know you were looking to broker a peace in the argument but that has to be done with facts.