I highly doubt it.
Considering how armor is worse in EVERY SINGLE WAY.
There is NO UPSIDE TO ARMOR that is actually worth all the downsides.

Communication appreciated.
Could we have some more information on this issue? While it's fairly egotistical to go around linking my thread, I feel that it's one of the better places to discuss this, as well. There's been over a dozen pages of good discussion there.

I dont understand what the big deal is? The new modules are hardly game breaking. This shouldn't be a priority fix. The new armor plates aren't that bad either....they just consume a ton of pg.

So what are you bitching about then? CCP....it is fine, the only thing is you've made shield rechargers pointless in this patch.

Our shields can't get repped. Our shields once we are fluxed we are practically dead. When depleted we have to wait 10 full seconds (with no Regs 6 with about 2 CRegulators) with NO heal at all. There is a grenade that takes ALL of our (OP advantage) away. There are weapons (Scrambler Rifle and Laser rifle) dedicated to taking away our shields no problem and than are left with NOTHING.


Armor tankers. Can spec into both Armor AND Shields. Flux taking out your shields means NOTHING because you still have high armor that CAN be repped by a logi faster than our shield can heal. You waiting on depleted shield really isn't catastrophic because that isn't what you are tank spec anyway. Please stop whining.

Hey there!

Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I can tell you that we are looking into how to better balance the two without obviously homogenizing the different statuses. So while it might seem like we aren't doing anything, that is not the case! It is in the works and we are continually looking at this data and determining how tweak it.

IF you go to read it count out how many are ALT accounts.

Our shields can't get repped. Our shields once we are fluxed we are practically dead. When depleted we have to wait 10 full seconds (with no Regs 6 with about 2 CRegulators) with NO heal at all. There is a grenade that takes ALL of our (OP advantage) away. There are weapons (Scrambler Rifle and Laser rifle) dedicated to taking away our shields no problem and than are left with NOTHING.


Armor tankers. Can spec into both Armor AND Shields. Flux taking out your shields means NOTHING because you still have high armor that CAN be repped by a logi faster than our shield can heal. You waiting on depleted shield really isn't catastrophic because that isn't what you are tank spec anyway. Please stop whining.

So the solution to armour tanking is to shield tank?

Hey there!

Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I can tell you that we are looking into how to better balance the two without obviously homogenizing the different statuses. So while it might seem like we aren't doing anything, that is not the case! It is in the works and we are continually looking at this data and determining how tweak it.

It's not JUST a recharge rate.
My Caldari assault already regenerates shields at 31.5/pulse, with a single complex energizer (60%) it recharges at 50.4/pulse. Dropping one complex extender in place of this gives me 480 shields (6% base less, didn't do math on that, but its negligible) and 2 complex regulators letting my shields start recharging 2 sec after taking cover, I get my shields back after 9.5 pulses.
At an average of 2 pulses/sec that's 4.7 sec from 1 shield remaining to full strength.

Even as an assault player with less shields than a CalLogi I can see that its broken.
Sure you can flux me, but with the regulators its still only 5 sec before my shields start coming back.
Its WAY faster than anything you can have for armor without a Logi repping you.

The Ferroscale plates should at least give 80 armor at complex level to even try to compete with this, and the reactive plates need a higher regen speed for the amount of armor they give and speed penalty.
I'm dropping my recharger and adding an energizer tonight for sure, rechargers are useless now.

I highly doubt it.
Considering how armor is worse in EVERY SINGLE WAY.
There is NO UPSIDE TO ARMOR that is actually worth all the downsides.

Cat, remember, you doubted them when it came to 1.2 being good as well, I'm sure they're trying to figure out how to balance the two without nuking shields or steroiding armor. Remember the Laser Rifle? I do, that's what happens when they "Balance" something without taking time to look at it.

Guys. It's the rate of recharge. If your shields go down. Still 10 seconds where they are down. it's just more shields will comeback per recharge i guess you could say.

You will want the Energizers once the shield regen timing gets fixed.
(For those of you that don't know, shield regen timer starts after first shot. They will be fixing it to start counting after last shot taken.)

The problem with armor is suits not having a constant repair rate. Every suit should have at least 10 hp/s repair rate imo, except heavies. Heavies not because you don't want to take away the logibro's job. If anything it should be very low, while scouts having the highest (like 15 hp/s). Let's be honest how many logibros have you seen repairing medium suits? Dependency on armor repairers is what makes armor inferior in all ways to shields, because they take 1 low slot. While you're at it, buff them and move them to high slot.

-XOXO

Confirming that everyone posting in that thread is my alt.
I am everywhere.

I take offence to this, I heal all allies in order of speed to max health, light frames first, then medium, then heavies.

I can't stop laughing

Hey there!

Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I can tell you that we are looking into how to better balance the two without obviously homogenizing the different statuses. So while it might seem like we aren't doing anything, that is not the case! It is in the works and we are continually looking at this data and determining how tweak it.

Wrong way of doing your job. Fatmen should be your priority.

-XOXO

I feel like I'm missing something, those don't sound very appealing or useful to me.

Not requiring any skills is ******. I personally dont think this sheild mod is much of an advantage, your sacrificing a slot to reduce your sheilds. I would much rather use a proto sheild recharger for the 43% recharge over loosing sheilds

this is an infaintry mod, right?

They buffed shields.
That's what.
Armor has been inferior in so many ways for months, and the update that was supposed to give us plates to remedy this not only gave us crap, but gave shields gold.

What buff? They gave us a better shield recharger, that's all. Armor plates were given an increase in rep rate or no movement penalty, etc. The downside is that the pg is so high.

I don't know many people that use shield rechargers anyway. I'm not going to sacrifice a module for faster shields. What is a shield energizer going to do when you get sniped with a charge sniper? Tbh, the shield energizer isn't really useful, imo

Hey there!

Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I can tell you that we are looking into how to better balance the two without obviously homogenizing the different statuses. So while it might seem like we aren't doing anything, that is not the case! It is in the works and we are continually looking at this data and determining how tweak it.