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Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T EoN.
298
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Posted - 2013.07.02 17:50:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:I dont understand what the big deal is? The new modules are hardly game breaking. This shouldn't be a priority fix. The new armor plates aren't that bad either....they just consume a ton of pg.
they consume extra cpu or PG, but the bad part is, they consume A LOT of armor |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
436
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Posted - 2013.07.02 18:02:00 -
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These lol caldari logi's, mini assaults, and caldari assaults need to try playing gallente logi |
D legendary hero
Strong-Arm
251
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Posted - 2013.07.02 21:25:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Flux would only be fair if it outright killed shield tankers. That's how good a locus grenade is against armor tankers.
or if it stopped their shields from coming back for 60 seconds...lol |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
1580
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Posted - 2013.07.02 21:27:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:
What buff? They gave us a better shield recharger, that's all. Armor plates were given an increase in rep rate or no movement penalty, etc. The downside is that the pg is so high.
I don't know many people that use shield rechargers anyway. I'm not going to sacrifice a module for faster shields. What is a shield energizer going to do when you get sniped with a charge sniper? Tbh, the shield energizer isn't really useful, imo
You are wrong. The new modules are also inferior to the current options. |
oso tiburon
The Generals EoN.
45
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Posted - 2013.07.02 21:28:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Complex shield energizer: -6% shield HP +60% shield recharge rate (!)
Advanced: -4% shield HP +45% shield recharge rate
Standard: -2% shield HP +25% shield recharge rate
Are you out of your minds? You create terrible plates for the weaker tank and create the most overpowered shield module for the stronger tank? Just wtf?
Edit: Oh, and they don't require any skills! *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* i tank in both latley though ive been cruising around in my maddys pop a missile turret on it a hardner good repper im mowin down most shieldys and infantry to boot , guess its the driver but hey better ***** to cpp about my lack of skill i want god mode mods
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Talbain Sigmund
Deep Black Industries Yulai Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.07.02 22:08:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4 wrote:I can't stop laughing My. Exact. Reaction. ... I mean damn, I defended Cal Logis against nerfage, but ****... didn't expect ****-everybody-else-Christmas to come early.
****-everybody-else-Christmas-in-July good sir.
On a real note as someone that runs fatkid suits. The new modules haven't changed any of my fittings in the least. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1559
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Posted - 2013.07.02 22:11:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Flux would only be fair if it outright killed shield tankers. That's how good a locus grenade is against armor tankers.
or if it stopped their shields from coming back for 60 seconds...lol Oh that's just evil... |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
1727
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Posted - 2013.07.02 22:25:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote:Hey there!
Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I can tell you that we are looking into how to better balance the two without obviously homogenizing the different statuses. So while it might seem like we aren't doing anything, that is not the case! It is in the works and we are continually looking at this data and determining how tweak it.
You're a liar and I've never had the audacity to call a developer that because I was a developer and I know how hard it is.
ANY IDIOT could have seen this coming and avoided it and CCP did it anyway. PROVE that you're looking at the stats because YOURE NOT LISTENING AT ALL.
Fix the ******* dropsuit bonuses. Give Gallente/Amarr some bonuses that make sense unlike 5% shield recharge per level on 120 shields.
I have NEVER had as much lack of faith with CCP until the release of 1.2 and its almost entirely because you not only do not care, you are lying to our faces. Go ahead, prove me wrong, show this magical fabricated "data" you've got and how you plan to unfuck everything that was done to offset this BS.
Tired of ******* waiting for people to get their **** together with this game and I promise when I'm elected in the CPM I will be CCPs worst nightmare. |
DRDEEZENUTSZ TWOpointo
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2013.07.02 22:30:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:Hey there!
Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I can tell you that we are looking into how to better balance the two without obviously homogenizing the different statuses. So while it might seem like we aren't doing anything, that is not the case! It is in the works and we are continually looking at this data and determining how tweak it.
You're a liar and I've never had the audacity to call a developer that because I was a developer and I know how hard it is. ANY IDIOT could have seen this coming and avoided it and CCP did it anyway. PROVE that you're looking at the stats because YOURE NOT LISTENING AT ALL. Fix the ******* dropsuit bonuses. Give Gallente/Amarr some bonuses that make sense unlike 5% shield recharge per level on 120 shields. I have NEVER had as much lack of faith with CCP until the release of 1.2 and its almost entirely because you not only do not care, you are lying to our faces. Go ahead, prove me wrong, show this magical fabricated "data" you've got and how you plan to unfuck everything that was done to offset this BS. Tired of ******* waiting for people to get their **** together with this game and I promise when I'm elected in the CPM I will be CCPs worst nightmare.
I approve of this message. |
Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance
73
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Posted - 2013.07.02 22:31:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:Hey there!
Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I can tell you that we are looking into how to better balance the two without obviously homogenizing the different statuses. So while it might seem like we aren't doing anything, that is not the case! It is in the works and we are continually looking at this data and determining how tweak it.
You're a liar and I've never had the audacity to call a developer that because I was a developer and I know how hard it is. ANY IDIOT could have seen this coming and avoided it and CCP did it anyway. PROVE that you're looking at the stats because YOURE NOT LISTENING AT ALL. Fix the ******* dropsuit bonuses. Give Gallente/Amarr some bonuses that make sense unlike 5% shield recharge per level on 120 shields. I have NEVER had as much lack of faith with CCP until the release of 1.2 and its almost entirely because you not only do not care, you are lying to our faces. Go ahead, prove me wrong, show this magical fabricated "data" you've got and how you plan to unfuck everything that was done to offset this BS. Tired of ******* waiting for people to get their **** together with this game and I promise when I'm elected in the CPM I will be CCPs worst nightmare.
I wouldn't vote for you.
Too much ******** and ******** for my taste, and I'd prefer someone a little more level-headed to represent me.
But I do admire your enthusiasm. |
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loumanchew
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
38
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Posted - 2013.07.02 22:32:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:Hey there!
Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I can tell you that we are looking into how to better balance the two without obviously homogenizing the different statuses. So while it might seem like we aren't doing anything, that is not the case! It is in the works and we are continually looking at this data and determining how tweak it.
You're a liar and I've never had the audacity to call a developer that because I was a developer and I know how hard it is. ANY IDIOT could have seen this coming and avoided it and CCP did it anyway. PROVE that you're looking at the stats because YOURE NOT LISTENING AT ALL. Fix the ******* dropsuit bonuses. Give Gallente/Amarr some bonuses that make sense unlike 5% shield recharge per level on 120 shields. I have NEVER had as much lack of faith with CCP until the release of 1.2 and its almost entirely because you not only do not care, you are lying to our faces. Go ahead, prove me wrong, show this magical fabricated "data" you've got and how you plan to unfuck everything that was done to offset this BS. Tired of ******* waiting for people to get their **** together with this game and I promise when I'm elected in the CPM I will be CCPs worst nightmare.
wow... one of those days huh?
So what's your position on respecs? But say it like you mean it this time, I felt like you were holding back in your previous post. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1559
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Posted - 2013.07.02 22:36:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:Hey there!
Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I can tell you that we are looking into how to better balance the two without obviously homogenizing the different statuses. So while it might seem like we aren't doing anything, that is not the case! It is in the works and we are continually looking at this data and determining how tweak it.
You're a liar and I've never had the audacity to call a developer that because I was a developer and I know how hard it is. ANY IDIOT could have seen this coming and avoided it and CCP did it anyway. PROVE that you're looking at the stats because YOURE NOT LISTENING AT ALL. Fix the ******* dropsuit bonuses. Give Gallente/Amarr some bonuses that make sense unlike 5% shield recharge per level on 120 shields. I have NEVER had as much lack of faith with CCP until the release of 1.2 and its almost entirely because you not only do not care, you are lying to our faces. Go ahead, prove me wrong, show this magical fabricated "data" you've got and how you plan to unfuck everything that was done to offset this BS. Tired of ******* waiting for people to get their **** together with this game and I promise when I'm elected in the CPM I will be CCPs worst nightmare. Boy, that escalated quickly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oScCgxuId98 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygr5AHufBN4
This will help you.
After you watch these videos and you are level headed, I would like to say, I agree with you. That's exactly how I feel, minus all the ********. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
345
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Posted - 2013.07.02 22:46:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote:Hey there!
Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I can tell you that we are looking into how to better balance the two without obviously homogenizing the different statuses. So while it might seem like we aren't doing anything, that is not the case! It is in the works and we are continually looking at this data and determining how tweak it.
And how long will it take to fix, Uprising 1.7? |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2477
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Posted - 2013.07.02 22:47:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:Hey there!
Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I can tell you that we are looking into how to better balance the two without obviously homogenizing the different statuses. So while it might seem like we aren't doing anything, that is not the case! It is in the works and we are continually looking at this data and determining how tweak it.
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH i swear ur like an automated response bot everytime someone criticizes u guys u come in with the same style of response "oh hey we understand and we are listening and are looking into it" ******* BULLSHIT u are
QFT |
Poplo Furuya
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
169
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Posted - 2013.07.02 22:47:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:Hey there!
Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I can tell you that we are looking into how to better balance the two without obviously homogenizing the different statuses. So while it might seem like we aren't doing anything, that is not the case! It is in the works and we are continually looking at this data and determining how tweak it.
You're a liar and I've never had the audacity to call a developer that because I was a developer and I know how hard it is. ANY IDIOT could have seen this coming and avoided it and CCP did it anyway. PROVE that you're looking at the stats because YOURE NOT LISTENING AT ALL. Fix the ******* dropsuit bonuses. Give Gallente/Amarr some bonuses that make sense unlike 5% shield recharge per level on 120 shields. I have NEVER had as much lack of faith with CCP until the release of 1.2 and its almost entirely because you not only do not care, you are lying to our faces. Go ahead, prove me wrong, show this magical fabricated "data" you've got and how you plan to unfuck everything that was done to offset this BS. Tired of ******* waiting for people to get their **** together with this game and I promise when I'm elected in the CPM I will be CCPs worst nightmare. They can't change the bonuses just yet. From what i understand the Gallente needs a bonus to avoid the speed penalty or reduce it on armor plates, but because of how they programed the suits, the penalty is a blanket effect on all of them. It's not a simple fix, and I won't expect this fix anytime soon. So until that day, shield tank >>>> armor tank. There's nothing CCP will do about it cuz they are balancing their game for items and fixes coming in 2015. The fact that they haven't changed it yet, shows this. It's not a priority. Everything on their road map has taken a back seat to make the core gameplay better. - Racial suits - Racial weapons - Racial vehicles - Race specific bonuses ^ none of these I expect anytime soon. You might see a suit here or there, but don't hold your breath. Awesome. One and a half of the four races are now going to be in the "useless" category until they decide to get off their asses and make those things. How nice. That's just the EVE tradition. Who knows, might take less than half a decade this time? |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1562
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Posted - 2013.07.02 22:47:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:Hey there!
Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I can tell you that we are looking into how to better balance the two without obviously homogenizing the different statuses. So while it might seem like we aren't doing anything, that is not the case! It is in the works and we are continually looking at this data and determining how tweak it.
And how long will it take to fix, Uprising 1.7? Uprising 1.9999999*bzzt* |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
1732
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Posted - 2013.07.02 22:58:00 -
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I don't much mind not getting votes for being absolutely infuriated with this because I know that there are plenty of people out there just as pissed off as I am about all of this.
Maybe its time to stoo HARD CODING everything and work on interchangable variables so that they can be fixed in a jiffy, anytime you hard code something into the system you're just boning yourself when it needs to be changed later.
Did I lose my temper? Absolutely! Was it necessary? No, but someone has to get angry about this because ohviously constructive criticsm is being ignored.
Its time to stop jerking around outside of the Dust 514 forums. Its time to stop going to private corp/alliance forums for feedback and its time to start presenting changes and implementations BEFORE they're introduced and actually listen to what the players want.
We founs out about these new modules THROUGH A TRAILER and a CPM member had to take feedback on them but the Shield Energizers were vaguely mentioned in a dev blog and that was it.
At what point are you people going to stop taking it as it is and start up a Jita Riot? When are you going to wake up and actually demand that this BS stop before the game is so badly broken that people just stop playing?
In before another week long CCP holiday. Peace. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
3067
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Posted - 2013.07.02 23:01:00 -
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lol @ CCP's data.
How about TESTING IT in a COMPETITIVE LEVEL PLAY before doing anything dumber then you've already done?
We don't need repeats of uprising because your nose is so far into spread sheets you forgot what practical play is. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1562
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Posted - 2013.07.02 23:02:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:lol @ CCP's data.
How about TESTING IT in a COMPETITIVE LEVEL PLAY before doing anything dumber then you've already done?
We don't need repeats of uprising because your nose is so far into spread sheets you forgot what practical play is. They come from EVE. Spreadsheets IS practical play. |
Deluxe Edition
TeamPlayers EoN.
430
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Posted - 2013.07.02 23:12:00 -
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As long as Core flaylock 1-2 shot armor assaults armor tanking is laughable. You could give armor tanked players amazing plates but it still doesn't change the fact that one weapon completely breaks them. Sure shields are weak to some things, but those things aren't the easiest gun to use in the game that you see more than the AR these days. |
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TheGoebel
Kite Co. Couriers
15
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Posted - 2013.07.02 23:25:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote: No, but someone has to get angry about this because ohviously constructive criticsm is being ignored.
In case anyone is interested where to find that criticism...... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87752 |
Keeriam Miray
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
13
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Posted - 2013.07.03 02:02:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote:Hey there! Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I can tell you that we are looking into how to better balance the two without obviously homogenizing the different statuses. So while it might seem like we aren't doing anything, that is not the case! It is in the works and we are continually looking at this data and determining how tweak it.
Lets see... remove (temporary) flux grenades. Add gallente plasma grenades, that do more dmg to shields & less dmg to armor. Looks simple, viable & logical (in place where we don't have all basic\core races stuff). How about that? |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
1738
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Posted - 2013.07.03 04:11:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote:Hey there!
Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I can tell you that we are looking into how to better balance the two without obviously homogenizing the different statuses. So while it might seem like we aren't doing anything, that is not the case! It is in the works and we are continually looking at this data and determining how tweak it.
You know what Mintchip, I owe you an apology. I was wrong to flip out particularly on your statement and now that I've had a bit to cool off I figured Id publicly apologize for my unnecessary usage of words. Keep up the good work as a community team member and don't let assholes like myself ruin the experience for you. |
dustwaffle
Ill Omens EoN.
131
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Posted - 2013.07.03 04:33:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:Hey there!
Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I can tell you that we are looking into how to better balance the two without obviously homogenizing the different statuses. So while it might seem like we aren't doing anything, that is not the case! It is in the works and we are continually looking at this data and determining how tweak it.
You know what Mintchip, I owe you an apology. I was wrong to flip out particularly on your statement and now that I've had a bit to cool off I figured Id publicly apologize for my unnecessary usage of words. Keep up the good work as a community team member and don't let assholes like myself ruin the experience for you. Glad to see some people around have the sense to stop acting like spoilt teenage brats for a second and man up with an apology.
+1 |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
1739
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Posted - 2013.07.03 05:05:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:Hey there!
Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I can tell you that we are looking into how to better balance the two without obviously homogenizing the different statuses. So while it might seem like we aren't doing anything, that is not the case! It is in the works and we are continually looking at this data and determining how tweak it.
You know what Mintchip, I owe you an apology. I was wrong to flip out particularly on your statement and now that I've had a bit to cool off I figured Id publicly apologize for my unnecessary usage of words. Keep up the good work as a community team member and don't let assholes like myself ruin the experience for you. Glad to see some people around have the sense to stop acting like spoilt teenage brats for a second and man up with an apology. +1
Doesn't change the fact that 1.2 was a mistake that is going to take another month, at the very least, to fix and I'm still not convinced CCP is listening.
What the developers need to do is experience it for themselves. |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
161
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Posted - 2013.07.03 05:11:00 -
[116] - Quote
As someone who runs Gallente in EVE as well.... you guys need to calm down. If your suit doesn't function as well as you'd like, get into one that does. If you have your heart set on a certain one, HTFU and run with it anyway. "My thing doesn't work well as other things!!!" is an argument that will never die. I'm not saying we can't voice ourselves and give input, but there is no need to lose your ****. |
Calroon DeVil
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
63
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Posted - 2013.07.03 05:40:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote:Hey there!
Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I can tell you that we are looking into how to better balance the two without obviously homogenizing the different statuses. So while it might seem like we aren't doing anything, that is not the case! It is in the works and we are continually looking at this data and determining how tweak it.
Just like CCP did in EVE for years right? Whom are you kidding. Seems you fit right in. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
1485
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Posted - 2013.07.03 11:32:00 -
[118] - Quote
Knightshade Belladonna wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Our shields can't get repped. Our shields once we are fluxed we are practically dead. When depleted we have to wait 10 full seconds (with no Regs 6 with about 2 CRegulators) with NO heal at all. There is a grenade that takes ALL of our (OP advantage) away. There are weapons (Scrambler Rifle and Laser rifle) dedicated to taking away our shields no problem and than are left with NOTHING.
Armor tankers. Can spec into both Armor AND Shields. Flux taking out your shields means NOTHING because you still have high armor that CAN be repped by a logi faster than our shield can heal. You waiting on depleted shield really isn't catastrophic because that isn't what you are tank spec anyway. Please stop whining. my complex armor repairer generates 5hp a second , how fast do your shields recharge? when you are fluxed you are not dead, you are alive.. you can run. what happens when a locus nade hits an armor tanker? omg you have to wait 6 seconds holy bejeebus, no fkn way.. yeh I can get repaired, sure.. do you think I got a logi bro stuck my ass the entire game? fk no lols. And a basic repairier only does like 25hp/s , how fast does your shields recharge again? We can spec into both you say? and you can't? please stop using crap justification to hide your whining, thanks.
When a locus grenade hits you then you should die. Guys are trying to live forever.
On another note, while your armor is repping at 5hp/sec, your shields are still making a comeback. So, you still have added protection. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
1485
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Posted - 2013.07.03 11:37:00 -
[119] - Quote
Aeon Amadi wrote:dustwaffle wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:Hey there!
Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I can tell you that we are looking into how to better balance the two without obviously homogenizing the different statuses. So while it might seem like we aren't doing anything, that is not the case! It is in the works and we are continually looking at this data and determining how tweak it.
You know what Mintchip, I owe you an apology. I was wrong to flip out particularly on your statement and now that I've had a bit to cool off I figured Id publicly apologize for my unnecessary usage of words. Keep up the good work as a community team member and don't let assholes like myself ruin the experience for you. Glad to see some people around have the sense to stop acting like spoilt teenage brats for a second and man up with an apology. +1 Doesn't change the fact that 1.2 was a mistake that is going to take another month, at the very least, to fix and I'm still not convinced CCP is listening. What the developers need to do is experience it for themselves.
1.2 is the best patch since Codex...nothing was done that is flawed to an unplayable point. Are you still experiencing framerate issues? Are the movements still clunky? |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
357
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Posted - 2013.07.03 11:39:00 -
[120] - Quote
Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Our shields can't get repped. Our shields once we are fluxed we are practically dead. When depleted we have to wait 10 full seconds (with no Regs 6 with about 2 CRegulators) with NO heal at all. There is a grenade that takes ALL of our (OP advantage) away. There are weapons (Scrambler Rifle and Laser rifle) dedicated to taking away our shields no problem and than are left with NOTHING.
Armor tankers. Can spec into both Armor AND Shields. Flux taking out your shields means NOTHING because you still have high armor that CAN be repped by a logi faster than our shield can heal. You waiting on depleted shield really isn't catastrophic because that isn't what you are tank spec anyway. Please stop whining. my complex armor repairer generates 5hp a second , how fast do your shields recharge? when you are fluxed you are not dead, you are alive.. you can run. what happens when a locus nade hits an armor tanker? omg you have to wait 6 seconds holy bejeebus, no fkn way.. yeh I can get repaired, sure.. do you think I got a logi bro stuck my ass the entire game? fk no lols. And a basic repairier only does like 25hp/s , how fast does your shields recharge again? We can spec into both you say? and you can't? please stop using crap justification to hide your whining, thanks. When a locus grenade hits you then you should die. Guys are trying to live forever. On another note, while your armor is repping at 5hp/sec, your shields are still making a comeback. So, you still have added protection.
On that note if a flux grenade hits you, then you should die , my armor is 500 so it takes me 1 minute 40 seconds to fully repair my HP. A Assault ck.0 with 1 complex repairer and full shield extenders will take 24 seconds to restore his HP. |
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