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Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1434
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Posted - 2013.07.02 12:58:00 -
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Complex shield energizer:
-6% shield HP
+60% shield recharge rate (!)
Advanced:
-4% shield HP
+45% shield recharge rate
Standard:
-2% shield HP
+25% shield recharge rate
Are you out of your minds?
You create terrible plates for the weaker tank and create the most overpowered shield module for the stronger tank?
Just wtf?
Edit:
Oh, and they don't require any skills!
*Clap* *Clap* *Clap* |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers
EoN.
618
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Posted - 2013.07.02 12:59:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Complex shield energizer:
-6% shield HP
+60% shield recharge rate (!)
Advanced:
-4% shield HP
+45% shield recharge rate
Standard:
-2% shield HP
+25% shield recharge rate
Are you out of your minds?
You create terrible plates for the weaker tank and create the most overpowered shield module for the stronger tank?
Just wtf?
We need something too! We get fluxed! |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:00:00 -
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I can't stop laughing |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
381
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:00:00 -
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i'm not a vehicle guy so please explain?
isn't sacrificing max shield seriously a problem since your shields won't regen until you're not being shot. thus you would die easier and give you less time to run away? |
Exmaple Core
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
443
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:01:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Complex shield energizer:
-6% shield HP
+60% shield recharge rate (!)
Advanced:
-4% shield HP
+45% shield recharge rate
Standard:
-2% shield HP
+25% shield recharge rate
Are you out of your minds?
You create terrible plates for the weaker tank and create the most overpowered shield module for the stronger tank?
Just wtf?
Edit:
Oh, and they don't require any skills!
*Clap* *Clap* *Clap*
Not requiring any skills is ******. I personally dont think this sheild mod is much of an advantage, your sacrificing a slot to reduce your sheilds. I would much rather use a proto sheild recharger for the 43% recharge over loosing sheilds
this is an infaintry mod, right? |
Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
241
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:01:00 -
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I feel like I'm missing something, those don't sound very appealing or useful to me. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1434
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:01:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Complex shield energizer:
-6% shield HP
+60% shield recharge rate (!)
Advanced:
-4% shield HP
+45% shield recharge rate
Standard:
-2% shield HP
+25% shield recharge rate
Are you out of your minds?
You create terrible plates for the weaker tank and create the most overpowered shield module for the stronger tank?
Just wtf? We need something too! We get fluxed!
We get hit by a locus grenade and we die instantly.
You get hit by a flux grenade and you take cover and regenerate.
Oh yeah it's so much worse for you! |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1434
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:02:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:i'm not a vehicle guy so please explain?
isn't sacrificing max shield seriously a problem since your shields won't regen until you're not being shot. thus you would die easier and give you less time to run away?
6% is nothing in comparison to 60% extra recharge rate. |
Knight SoIaire
Rent-A-Murder Taxi
1000
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:02:00 -
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I see Gal Scouts getting good use for this, with their already terrible Shield tanking abilities -6% Shouldn't hurt. |
Poplo Furuya
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
149
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:04:00 -
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Holy smokes. Oh Jesus, God. CalLogis are also still intact aren't they? Screw me sideways, oh God.
Why? WHY? And before fixing the lack of shield regen resets on shields, too?
Words fail me.
...if the fitting requirements are low as well, just...
Why? |
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DildoMcnutz
The Tickle Monsters
26
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:07:00 -
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yeah this is insane, all the new plates are about as usefull as a big sack if sh!t and the one item that comes for shields is ridiculously good. A 6% penalty for 60% recharge?! That penalty is only to base shields aswell if what i have read is true. That negative is nothing compared to the ridiculous movement speed penalties plates have.
Meh whatever, i assume most people will be sticking to there basic plates if anything. |
Exmaple Core
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
443
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:10:00 -
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DildoMcnutz wrote:yeah this is insane, all the new plates are about as usefull as a big sack if sh!t and the one item that comes for shields is ridiculously good. A 6% penalty for 60% recharge?! That penalty is only to base shields aswell if what i have read is true. That negative is nothing compared to the ridiculous movement speed penalties plates have. Meh whatever, i assume most people will be sticking to there basic plates if anything. LOL, disregard that, i thought they were for infantry!!! hahahha oh man gotta make yourself laugh 
wait. this is a tank mod? |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
48
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:10:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:I see Gal Scouts getting good use for this, with their already terrible Shield tanking abilities -6% Shouldn't hurt.
Why? My shields return almost instantly already. |
NAV HIV
The Generals
EoN.
248
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Posted - 2013.07.02 14:10:00 -
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Is it for Vehicles only? |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1449
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Posted - 2013.07.02 14:11:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Is it for Vehicles only?
It's an infantry module >_> |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers
EoN.
619
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Posted - 2013.07.02 14:12:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Complex shield energizer:
-6% shield HP
+60% shield recharge rate (!)
Advanced:
-4% shield HP
+45% shield recharge rate
Standard:
-2% shield HP
+25% shield recharge rate
Are you out of your minds?
You create terrible plates for the weaker tank and create the most overpowered shield module for the stronger tank?
Just wtf? We need something too! We get fluxed! We get hit by a locus grenade and we die instantly. You get hit by a flux grenade and you take cover and regenerate. Oh yeah it's so much worse for you!
Ummmm locus grenades hurt us too.... Flux don't hurt you... ummm...
Do you even Dust bro? |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1449
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Posted - 2013.07.02 14:14:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Cat Merc wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Complex shield energizer:
-6% shield HP
+60% shield recharge rate (!)
Advanced:
-4% shield HP
+45% shield recharge rate
Standard:
-2% shield HP
+25% shield recharge rate
Are you out of your minds?
You create terrible plates for the weaker tank and create the most overpowered shield module for the stronger tank?
Just wtf? We need something too! We get fluxed! We get hit by a locus grenade and we die instantly. You get hit by a flux grenade and you take cover and regenerate. Oh yeah it's so much worse for you! Ummmm locus grenades hurt us too.... Flux don't hurt you... ummm... Do you even Dust bro?
Locus grenades do 70% damage to you.
Locus grenades do 135% damage to us.
Do you even Dust bro? |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
884
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Posted - 2013.07.02 14:14:00 -
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It's a freaking recharge rate... get a grip! |
Unmei no Hoeru
Grupo de Asalto Chacal
CRONOS.
4
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Posted - 2013.07.02 14:25:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Cat Merc wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Complex shield energizer:
-6% shield HP
+60% shield recharge rate (!)
Advanced:
-4% shield HP
+45% shield recharge rate
Standard:
-2% shield HP
+25% shield recharge rate
Are you out of your minds?
You create terrible plates for the weaker tank and create the most overpowered shield module for the stronger tank?
Just wtf? We need something too! We get fluxed! We get hit by a locus grenade and we die instantly. You get hit by a flux grenade and you take cover and regenerate. Oh yeah it's so much worse for you! Ummmm locus grenades hurt us too.... Flux don't hurt you... ummm... Do you even Dust bro?
Explosives (such as a locus grenade and the little joke called the flaylock) do 30% more damage to armor and 30% less for shields, shield tankers can survive more easily a locus grenade than us armor tankers. And you got no penalization whatsoever. None zero nada. We get slow as a snail the more armor we have.
But don't worry CCP got us cover by giving us plates that don't penalize movement and repair themselves!!!
Did I forgot to mention they fit like an elephant in a pool and they give like half or even a third hp of the normal ones?, ups.
Have fun gallente and amarr dropsuits, Hail the caldari logistic |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers
EoN.
620
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Posted - 2013.07.02 14:28:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Cat Merc wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Complex shield energizer:
-6% shield HP
+60% shield recharge rate (!)
Advanced:
-4% shield HP
+45% shield recharge rate
Standard:
-2% shield HP
+25% shield recharge rate
Are you out of your minds?
You create terrible plates for the weaker tank and create the most overpowered shield module for the stronger tank?
Just wtf? We need something too! We get fluxed! We get hit by a locus grenade and we die instantly. You get hit by a flux grenade and you take cover and regenerate. Oh yeah it's so much worse for you! Ummmm locus grenades hurt us too.... Flux don't hurt you... ummm... Do you even Dust bro? Locus grenades do 70% damage to you. Locus grenades do 135% damage to us. Do you even Dust bro?
Flux when game is working properly does 100% damage to us 0% dmg to you...
Do YOU even Dust bro?
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Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2013.07.02 14:38:00 -
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id throw them on my gallente assault
I have a couple loaadouts focused on shield since thats my weakness
also they will probably work really well for the heavys out there |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
496
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Posted - 2013.07.02 14:40:00 -
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If people are so worried about shields, why are they still carrying locus grenades?
I honestly don't get it.
You want to get a kill by spamming grenades, but that's not the tactic you need to use.
You actually have to pursue your enemy after you throw a flux, but the guy you will be pursuing will have less HP than a standard scout only slower with a larger "hit box"
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Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1452
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Posted - 2013.07.02 14:41:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:If people are so worried about shields, why are they still carrying locus grenades?
I honestly don't get it.
You want to get a kill by spamming grenades, but that's not the tactic you need to use.
You actually have to pursue your enemy after you throw a flux, but the guy you will be pursuing will have less HP than a standard scout only slower with a larger "hit box"
A locus grenade obliderates armor tankers.
Flux isn't that great of a counter when you consider that the armor counter outright kills us. |
NAV HIV
The Generals
EoN.
248
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Posted - 2013.07.02 14:43:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Is it for Vehicles only? It's an infantry module >_>
So my Caldari AR would get something it deserves! It'd make the Caldari Logi OP, no doubt about that. Logi shouldn't be doing ARs job. That's that |
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Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2013.07.02 14:43:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:If people are so worried about shields, why are they still carrying locus grenades?
I honestly don't get it.
You want to get a kill by spamming grenades, but that's not the tactic you need to use.
You actually have to pursue your enemy after you throw a flux, but the guy you will be pursuing will have less HP than a standard scout only slower with a larger "hit box"
most of my loadouts have flux
I wish more people carried them and I wish there were more types of flux
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Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1452
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Posted - 2013.07.02 14:45:00 -
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Flux would only be fair if it outright killed shield tankers.
That's how good a locus grenade is against armor tankers.
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DirtyTortilla
Shadow Company HQ
3
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Posted - 2013.07.02 14:49:00 -
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CCP has a thing for shields it seems... |
Den-tredje Baron
ParagonX
137
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Posted - 2013.07.02 14:49:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:
Flux when game is working properly does 100% damage to us 0% dmg to you...
Do YOU even Dust bro?
WTF BRO !!
explosives do 135% to armor and 70% to shield hmm
shield take down thingies (like scrambler and laser) does 80% to armor and 120% to shields hmm hmmm
Does flux grenades have a nice 6m splash contact version ?? nope didn't think so. Does the flaylock shoot emp rounds ?? nope didn't think so. do you die when al your shield is gone ?? nope didn't think so.
Now 0% damage to us..... WTF !!!! 1/5 of my tank are my shields and i'm running proto gall logi !! I determine whether to bugger off or stand and fight on however fast my shields go away. If i get fluxed i'm always counting on that the bugger in the other end got something explosive to finish off armor.
Ohh and if your jumping around in a firefight i donno i usually keep shooting i don't stop to **** a flux grenade to hopefully mash it into the other dudes face because..... i'm dead by then because MY PLATES SUCK !!
Do YO.. no actually.... get out. door is that way. ---> |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers
EoN.
622
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Posted - 2013.07.02 14:50:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Flux would only be fair if it outright killed shield tankers.
That's how good a locus grenade is against armor tankers.
I think you are just being r3tarded at this point. |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers
EoN.
433
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Posted - 2013.07.02 14:59:00 -
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The fact that lolcaldari logi's are OP have been accepted forever since day one uprising. The fact they didn't care to fix them is sad. I think I will be switching back for obvious reasons. This is ******* crazy. Everyone to walks away from the nice thread about shield and armor imbalance is either straight r3tarted or didn't get it. Shield is obviously > Armor
It least you'll have to sacrifice about 100 shields off the caldari logi to use one. but that's still 579 and higher than any other class can get on shields...OP as ****. |
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