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Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1434	Posted - 2013.07.02 12:58:00 - [1] - Quote Complex shield energizer: -6% shield HP +60% shield recharge rate (!) Advanced: -4% shield HP +45% shield recharge rate Standard: -2% shield HP +25% shield recharge rate Are you out of your minds? You create terrible plates for the weaker tank and create the most overpowered shield module for the stronger tank? Just wtf? Edit: Oh, and they don't require any skills! Clap Clap Clap
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1434	Posted - 2013.07.02 13:01:00 - [2] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Complex shield energizer: -6% shield HP +60% shield recharge rate (!) Advanced: -4% shield HP +45% shield recharge rate Standard: -2% shield HP +25% shield recharge rate Are you out of your minds? You create terrible plates for the weaker tank and create the most overpowered shield module for the stronger tank? Just wtf? We need something too! We get fluxed! We get hit by a locus grenade and we die instantly. You get hit by a flux grenade and you take cover and regenerate. Oh yeah it's so much worse for you!
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1434	Posted - 2013.07.02 13:02:00 - [3] - Quote calisk galern wrote: i'm not a vehicle guy so please explain? isn't sacrificing max shield seriously a problem since your shields won't regen until you're not being shot. thus you would die easier and give you less time to run away? 6% is nothing in comparison to 60% extra recharge rate.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1449	Posted - 2013.07.02 14:11:00 - [4] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Is it for Vehicles only? It's an infantry module >_>
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1449	Posted - 2013.07.02 14:14:00 - [5] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: Cat Merc wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Complex shield energizer: -6% shield HP +60% shield recharge rate (!) Advanced: -4% shield HP +45% shield recharge rate Standard: -2% shield HP +25% shield recharge rate Are you out of your minds? You create terrible plates for the weaker tank and create the most overpowered shield module for the stronger tank? Just wtf? We need something too! We get fluxed! We get hit by a locus grenade and we die instantly. You get hit by a flux grenade and you take cover and regenerate. Oh yeah it's so much worse for you! Ummmm locus grenades hurt us too.... Flux don't hurt you... ummm... Do you even Dust bro? Locus grenades do 70% damage to you. Locus grenades do 135% damage to us. Do you even Dust bro?
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1452	Posted - 2013.07.02 14:41:00 - [6] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: If people are so worried about shields, why are they still carrying locus grenades? I honestly don't get it. You want to get a kill by spamming grenades, but that's not the tactic you need to use. You actually have to pursue your enemy after you throw a flux, but the guy you will be pursuing will have less HP than a standard scout only slower with a larger "hit box" A locus grenade obliderates armor tankers. Flux isn't that great of a counter when you consider that the armor counter outright kills us.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1452	Posted - 2013.07.02 14:45:00 - [7] - Quote Flux would only be fair if it outright killed shield tankers. That's how good a locus grenade is against armor tankers.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1462	Posted - 2013.07.02 15:01:00 - [8] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Flux would only be fair if it outright killed shield tankers. That's how good a locus grenade is against armor tankers. I think you are just being r3tarded at this point. Locus grenades do: 70% against shields 135% against armor. One grenade killed me with 660 armor and 150 shields. ONE. If Flux was a good counter, it would do the same to shield tankers.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1473	Posted - 2013.07.02 15:10:00 - [9] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: Cat Merc wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Flux would only be fair if it outright killed shield tankers. That's how good a locus grenade is against armor tankers. I think you are just being r3tarded at this point. Locus grenades do: 70% against shields 135% against armor. One grenade killed me with 660 armor and 150 shields. ONE. If Flux was a good counter, it would do the same to shield tankers. I get killed by locusts grenades too lmfao! It's not like I just laugh at them and they do no damage to me. Flux do NO NONE ZILCH XERO NADA damage to you when the game isn't glitching. Funny because my Caldari friend says he had a proto locus grenade hit his face and only scratch half his shields.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1483	Posted - 2013.07.02 15:27:00 - [10] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: Hey there! Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I can tell you that we are looking into how to better balance the two without obviously homogenizing the different statuses. So while it might seem like we aren't doing anything, that is not the case! It is in the works and we are continually looking at this data and determining how tweak it. I highly doubt it. Considering how armor is worse in EVERY SINGLE WAY. There is NO UPSIDE TO ARMOR that is actually worth all the downsides.

Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1490	Posted - 2013.07.02 15:30:00 - [11] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I dont understand what the big deal is? The new modules are hardly game breaking. This shouldn't be a priority fix. The new armor plates aren't that bad either....they just consume a ton of pg. I did the math. They're garbage. Using a combination of normal plates and repairers, I get more health, more speed, more CPU/PG left over, and better repair. There is NO upside to these garbage things.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1490	Posted - 2013.07.02 15:32:00 - [12] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Cat Merc wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Hey there! Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I can tell you that we are looking into how to better balance the two without obviously homogenizing the different statuses. So while it might seem like we aren't doing anything, that is not the case! It is in the works and we are continually looking at this data and determining how tweak it. I highly doubt it. Considering how armor is worse in EVERY SINGLE WAY. There is NO UPSIDE TO ARMOR that is actually worth all the downsides. So what are you bitching about then? CCP....it is fine, the only thing is you've made shield rechargers pointless in this patch. They buffed shields. That's what. Armor has been inferior in so many ways for months, and the update that was supposed to give us plates to remedy this not only gave us crap, but gave shields gold.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1510	Posted - 2013.07.02 16:26:00 - [13] - Quote Kiro Justice wrote: Cat Merc wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Hey there! Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I can tell you that we are looking into how to better balance the two without obviously homogenizing the different statuses. So while it might seem like we aren't doing anything, that is not the case! It is in the works and we are continually looking at this data and determining how tweak it. I highly doubt it. Considering how armor is worse in EVERY SINGLE WAY. There is NO UPSIDE TO ARMOR that is actually worth all the downsides. Cat, remember, you doubted them when it came to 1.2 being good as well, I'm sure they're trying to figure out how to balance the two without nuking shields or steroiding armor. Remember the Laser Rifle? I do, that's what happens when they "Balance" something without taking time to look at it. Armor is so terrible that even if they give it steroids it would still be bad.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1526	Posted - 2013.07.02 17:28:00 - [14] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Cat Merc wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Hey there! Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I can tell you that we are looking into how to better balance the two without obviously homogenizing the different statuses. So while it might seem like we aren't doing anything, that is not the case! It is in the works and we are continually looking at this data and determining how tweak it. I highly doubt it. Considering how armor is worse in EVERY SINGLE WAY. There is NO UPSIDE TO ARMOR that is actually worth all the downsides. So what are you bitching about then? CCP....it is fine, the only thing is you've made shield rechargers pointless in this patch. They buffed shields. That's what. Armor has been inferior in so many ways for months, and the update that was supposed to give us plates to remedy this not only gave us crap, but gave shields gold. What buff? They gave us a better shield recharger, that's all. Armor plates were given an increase in rep rate or no movement penalty, etc. The downside is that the pg is so high. I don't know many people that use shield rechargers anyway. I'm not going to sacrifice a module for faster shields. What is a shield energizer going to do when you get sniped with a charge sniper? Tbh, the shield energizer isn't really useful, imo You have no idea, it is obvious you are not a armor tanker and you have no clue how terrible those new plates are. Good day sir. Also, a better recharger is a buff, no other way to explain it.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1559	Posted - 2013.07.02 22:11:00 - [15] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Flux would only be fair if it outright killed shield tankers. That's how good a locus grenade is against armor tankers. or if it stopped their shields from coming back for 60 seconds...lol Oh that's just evil...
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1559	Posted - 2013.07.02 22:36:00 - [16] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Hey there! Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I can tell you that we are looking into how to better balance the two without obviously homogenizing the different statuses. So while it might seem like we aren't doing anything, that is not the case! It is in the works and we are continually looking at this data and determining how tweak it. You're a liar and I've never had the audacity to call a developer that because I was a developer and I know how hard it is. ANY IDIOT could have seen this coming and avoided it and CCP did it anyway. PROVE that you're looking at the stats because YOURE NOT LISTENING AT ALL. Fix the ***** dropsuit bonuses. Give Gallente/Amarr some bonuses that make sense unlike 5% shield recharge per level on 120 shields. I have NEVER had as much lack of faith with CCP until the release of 1.2 and its almost entirely because you not only do not care, you are lying to our faces. Go ahead, prove me wrong, show this magical fabricated "data" you've got and how you plan to unfuck everything that was done to offset this BS. Tired of *** waiting for people to get their together with this game and I promise when I'm elected in the CPM I will be CCPs worst nightmare. Boy, that escalated quickly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oScCgxuId98 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygr5AHufBN4 This will help you. After you watch these videos and you are level headed, I would like to say, I agree with you. That's exactly how I feel, minus all the ******.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1562	Posted - 2013.07.02 22:47:00 - [17] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Hey there! Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I can tell you that we are looking into how to better balance the two without obviously homogenizing the different statuses. So while it might seem like we aren't doing anything, that is not the case! It is in the works and we are continually looking at this data and determining how tweak it. And how long will it take to fix, Uprising 1.7? Uprising 1.9999999bzzt
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1562	Posted - 2013.07.02 23:02:00 - [18] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: lol @ CCP's data. How about TESTING IT in a COMPETITIVE LEVEL PLAY before doing anything dumber then you've already done? We don't need repeats of uprising because your nose is so far into spread sheets you forgot what practical play is. They come from EVE. Spreadsheets IS practical play.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1605	Posted - 2013.07.03 13:31:00 - [19] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Knightshade Belladonna wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: Our shields can't get repped. Our shields once we are fluxed we are practically dead. When depleted we have to wait 10 full seconds (with no Regs 6 with about 2 CRegulators) with NO heal at all. There is a grenade that takes ALL of our (OP advantage) away. There are weapons (Scrambler Rifle and Laser rifle) dedicated to taking away our shields no problem and than are left with NOTHING. Armor tankers. Can spec into both Armor AND Shields. Flux taking out your shields means NOTHING because you still have high armor that CAN be repped by a logi faster than our shield can heal. You waiting on depleted shield really isn't catastrophic because that isn't what you are tank spec anyway. Please stop whining. my complex armor repairer generates 5hp a second , how fast do your shields recharge? when you are fluxed you are not dead, you are alive.. you can run. what happens when a locus nade hits an armor tanker? omg you have to wait 6 seconds holy bejeebus, no fkn way.. yeh I can get repaired, sure.. do you think I got a logi bro stuck my ass the entire game? fk no lols. And a basic repairier only does like 25hp/s , how fast does your shields recharge again? We can spec into both you say? and you can't? please stop using crap justification to hide your whining, thanks. When a locus grenade hits you then you should die. Guys are trying to live forever. On another note, while your armor is repping at 5hp/sec, your shields are still making a comeback. So, you still have added protection. On that note if a flux grenade hits you, then you should die , my armor is 500 so it takes me 1 minute 40 seconds to fully repair my HP. A Assault ck.0 with 1 complex repairer and full shield extenders will take 24 seconds to restore his HP. But that is the price of armor tanking. You can't have your cake, eat it, digest it, and have someone wipe your ass. Yeah, it will take a min for your armor to repair but your shields will regenerate so you won't be vulnerable. No. We have the cake and the shield tanker steals it. If you actually do the math, armor needs 3x complex plates to get slightly higher eHP. Slightly. And what do we sacrifise in return? A buttload of regeneration. A buttload of speed. And mind you, most anti armor weapons are more effective against armor than anti shield weapons are against shields. There is seriously no upside to armor.