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Sleever 44
Chaotic-Intent
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Posted - 2013.07.14 22:46:00 -
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The Flaylock is just fine as is, considering the amount of SP you need to be a force with it. I agree adapt, don't cry nerf every time something kills ya. It's not fair to the people who took the time to spec into something, just to see it get nerfed down 3 weeks after they get the skill up enough to be effective with it. They just got the range on weapons good to go (IMO) which if you notice, the Flaylock has a mid level range that is far less than any AR. I would say if they are that much of a problem for someone then just back the hell up. I get killed more by Mass Drivers than I do the Flaylocks. So I suppose if they nerf the Flaylock they should nerf the MD as well. Just my opinion. |
flesth
Red Star. EoN.
42
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Posted - 2013.07.14 22:54:00 -
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Sleever 44 wrote:The Flaylock is just fine as is, considering the amount of SP you need to be a force with it. I agree adapt, don't cry nerf every time something kills ya. It's not fair to the people who took the time to spec into something, just to see it get nerfed down 3 weeks after they get the skill up enough to be effective with it. They just got the range on weapons good to go (IMO) which if you notice, the Flaylock has a mid level range that is far less than any AR. I would say if they are that much of a problem for someone then just back the hell up. I get killed more by Mass Drivers than I do the Flaylocks. So I suppose if they nerf the Flaylock they should nerf the MD as well. Just my opinion.
if that the case, BRING back Tac power from the dead, and i see how you like it ? |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
186
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Posted - 2013.07.14 23:06:00 -
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Xero The Mishima wrote:OZAROW wrote:XV1 wrote:You are wrong, I counted weaponry 5, sidearm operation 5 and all flaylock pistol skills to five at well under 6 mil. That calculation was for the weapon an all skills for the weapon, nice try add again Ya you can't nerf the flaylock! I spent 17M SP on it!!! Weaponry 5 side arm 5 Flaylock5 core upgrades 5 shields 5 armor5 + more!!! Are you dence!? A: I run knives on a scout I don't even have enough CPU pg to use a friggen gun! But when I can't get close enough to a guy using a faylock I finally got a assault rifle an mass driver an faylock an a assault suit during 3x sp week just to have a fighting chance I didn't go make threads to cry about it! |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
186
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Posted - 2013.07.14 23:09:00 -
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Ps I been playing for 6 months without th weapons I just got an ya faylocks a problem that's why I spec into other things , name of the game cry baby, u don't scream nerf cuz you don't have the sp you make it an fix the problem YOURSELF! |
Sleever 44
Chaotic-Intent
9
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Posted - 2013.07.14 23:11:00 -
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I never had a problem with the power of the TAC....my problem was with the modded controller being used and turning it into a full auto. Bottom line is this, no matter what the weapon, people are gonna exploit anything they can to win. It was the HMG, then the laser rifle, then the TAC and MD,,,,,now its the Flaylock.....See the pattern here. I just don't see CCP nerfing every new weapon that comes out. As I said, I would be more worried about balancing. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens League of Infamy
259
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Posted - 2013.07.14 23:18:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:Ps I been playing for 6 months without th weapons I just got an ya faylocks a problem that's why I spec into other things , name of the game cry baby, u don't scream nerf cuz you don't have the sp you make it an fix the problem YOURSELF!
At least I didn't shoot you with a Flaylock. |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
186
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Posted - 2013.07.14 23:46:00 -
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Sleever 44 wrote:I never had a problem with the power of the TAC....my problem was with the modded controller being used and turning it into a full auto. Bottom line is this, no matter what the weapon, people are gonna exploit anything they can to win. It was the HMG, then the laser rifle, then the TAC and MD,,,,,now its the Flaylock.....See the pattern here. I just don't see CCP nerfing every new weapon that comes out. As I said, I would be more worried about balancing. I agree, even if they nerf damage then you have a guy going proficiency 5 an damage mods in a five slot suit- same problem |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
186
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Posted - 2013.07.14 23:48:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:OZAROW wrote:Ps I been playing for 6 months without th weapons I just got an ya faylocks a problem that's why I spec into other things , name of the game cry baby, u don't scream nerf cuz you don't have the sp you make it an fix the problem YOURSELF! At least I didn't shoot you with a Flaylock. Lol rather that then your obliterating forge gun from a spot on the map that nobody can get to without a drop ship that you'll just blast out of the sky before it gets there lol |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens League of Infamy
259
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Posted - 2013.07.15 00:59:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:OZAROW wrote:Ps I been playing for 6 months without th weapons I just got an ya faylocks a problem that's why I spec into other things , name of the game cry baby, u don't scream nerf cuz you don't have the sp you make it an fix the problem YOURSELF! At least I didn't shoot you with a Flaylock. Lol rather that then your obliterating forge gun from a spot on the map that nobody can get to without a drop ship that you'll just blast out of the sky before it gets there lol
Last match I shot you in I was on the low roof of the small building next to "C" on the Ashland map. That you got up there, past a pack of my team mates, to return the favor with a nova was awesome and proves it wasn't inaccessible. Still got to blast a drop ship too. Besides, I end up doing more ground side forging than tower forging. |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
131
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Posted - 2013.07.15 05:26:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:OZAROW wrote:Ps I been playing for 6 months without th weapons I just got an ya faylocks a problem that's why I spec into other things , name of the game cry baby, u don't scream nerf cuz you don't have the sp you make it an fix the problem YOURSELF! At least I didn't shoot you with a Flaylock. Lol rather that then your obliterating forge gun from a spot on the map that nobody can get to without a drop ship that you'll just blast out of the sky before it gets there lol
Not my fault you depend on a crutch to get kills. If you were any good you would be in a real LoI corp. |
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Reno Pechieu
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.07.15 13:03:00 -
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In any theater of battle if something works well on a small scale, they will make a bigger version of it. With that in mind; where are the Heavy machineguns that fire Flaylock missiles? It could have a belt-fed supply, and just imagine how a turret version of it would be?
Oh, and donGÇÖt forget rifles that shot mini missiles, yeahGǪthey could be called Bolt launchers, hmmGǪ although someone might go to War for thatGǪmight even bring a HammerGǪmake it last 40 thousand years. /sarcasm
In short, as many have pointed out; itGÇÖs a Sideweapon and as such shouldnGÇÖt be in the same weight class as main weapons. The amount of points someone invested into it is irrelevant, as most people invested those points because the either realized or heard how powerful it was compared to the rest of the arsenal. Demanding that the entire game turns into a Flaylock battle is ridiculous, as it removes the whole point of having different weapons... |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
0
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:25:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Buster Friently wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Are you guys aware of how godlike it is? Is there plans to nerf it down a little bit? It's getting to the point where people are just running around using nothing else specially in the Planetary Conquest that was suppose to bring Longevity to the game. Nobody will want to go up against full teams of guys using Rapid fire grenade launchers that are more than capable of killing with splash damage. The gun is fine. Clearly you don't play this game. Go into some PC matches and its probably somewhere between 40-80% of all kills in a match. Some corps are just speccing completely into flaylocks and running dual core godlock pistols. It's need it's RoF halved and its splash radius normalized between variants. 1. It shoots missiles not baby grenades 2. It's useless till level 5 = almost 7mill sp 3. It has a three shot clip 4. It's the proficiency damage, rapid reload, an clip increase that makes it scary an foyr that much sp it should! 5. Instead of whinning about it or getting killed by it, follow suit an get one. As a scout it's about the only usefull range scary weapon I can use to back up my my knives so please don't go scream nerf hammer when almost every weapon I spec into gets beat because people spec it powerful an it kills you, play smarter, evade, switch weapons , hell get one, just don't ruin mine! Shotty already got slapped from people like you so just play wiser don't cry! I second this, seriously. 3 shots per clip, useless til at least level 4. It has a 1.5 splash radius which isn't much. And it's only good close range. So stfu and stop crying about flays, I even heard that the lav impact dmg is op lol like seriously? Do you get ran over by a car and live at full or mid speed? HELLO. It isn't op and doesn't need a nerf. The shotgun already got fked sometimes it shoots blanks. The mass driver got screwed and is slowly is getting better. So crying and learn some freaking tactics, don't stand still and shoot. Don't forget about your grenades. Don't move in predictable patterns. Don't get owned by a flaylock. |
Stile451
Red Star. EoN.
144
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Posted - 2013.07.15 17:58:00 -
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Must be one hell of a crutch if you will leave the game if it gets balanced. |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
186
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:40:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:OZAROW wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:OZAROW wrote:Ps I been playing for 6 months without th weapons I just got an ya faylocks a problem that's why I spec into other things , name of the game cry baby, u don't scream nerf cuz you don't have the sp you make it an fix the problem YOURSELF! At least I didn't shoot you with a Flaylock. Lol rather that then your obliterating forge gun from a spot on the map that nobody can get to without a drop ship that you'll just blast out of the sky before it gets there lol Last match I shot you in I was on the low roof of the small building next to "C" on the Ashland map. That you got up there, past a pack of my team mates, to return the favor with a nova was awesome and proves it wasn't inaccessible. Still got to blast a drop ship too. Besides, I end up doing more ground side forging than tower forging. No man ur good I was just teasing took my team a while to find you. I tried a heavy with a forge just for giggles because of you the other day an I must say I have a new found respect for you using that weapon as good as you do it s not easy. Lol ya I was praying when I was climbing the ladder that I wasn't gonna see this big heavy with a grin lean over the side an give me a good blue blast into oblivion! Good work shin I look forward to playing with or against you again an thank you for not taking the sidearm way out an letting us fight mono eh mono on the roof with me lee s an a death dance I respect that |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
186
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:50:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:OZAROW wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Buster Friently wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Are you guys aware of how godlike it is? Is there plans to nerf it down a little bit? It's getting to the point where people are just running around using nothing else specially in the Planetary Conquest that was suppose to bring Longevity to the game. Nobody will want to go up against full teams of guys using Rapid fire grenade launchers that are more than capable of killing with splash damage. The gun is fine. Clearly you don't play this game. Go into some PC matches and its probably somewhere between 40-80% of all kills in a match. Some corps are just speccing completely into flaylocks and running dual core godlock pistols. It's need it's RoF halved and its splash radius normalized between variants. 1. It shoots missiles not baby grenades 2. It's useless till level 5 = almost 7mill sp 3. It has a three shot clip 4. It's the proficiency damage, rapid reload, an clip increase that makes it scary an foyr that much sp it should! 5. Instead of whinning about it or getting killed by it, follow suit an get one. As a scout it's about the only usefull range scary weapon I can use to back up my my knives so please don't go scream nerf hammer when almost every weapon I spec into gets beat because people spec it powerful an it kills you, play smarter, evade, switch weapons , hell get one, just don't ruin mine! Shotty already got slapped from people like you so just play wiser don't cry! I second this, seriously. 3 shots per clip, useless til at least level 4. It has a 1.5 splash radius which isn't much. And it's only good close range. So stfu and stop crying about flays, I even heard that the lav impact dmg is op lol like seriously? Do you get ran over by a car and live at full or mid speed? HELLO. It isn't op and doesn't need a nerf. The shotgun already got fked sometimes it shoots blanks. The mass driver got screwed and is slowly is getting better. So crying and learn some freaking tactics, don't stand still and shoot. Don't forget about your grenades. Don't move in predictable patterns. Don't get owned by a flaylock. Seriously if they nerf the flay they better give me a respect. I spent $200 and something dollars to support this game and bought mercenary, vetren and elite pack. If they did screw the flay I will just quit and spend money else where. The game is fine as is besides the random lag. People who qq about nerf need to get good. I can own a flaylocker with a military smg and jumping around with a freaking dragonfly scout suit . The time it takes for them to reload I use a flux and spray them , oh did you know the flay lock also hurts the player when noob team members run right in front. A third of my deaths are maybe that. A flay locker has to be exposed to use it because he can't the chance of suicide. Get good and stop crying. Thank you sir, I fought you last night an honestly you irritated me but it was because you knew how to use it you waited till I was preoccupied with your team then let me have it, then I did the same with my knives an got you back. It's a powerfully weapon if used correctly an I don't know what players acctually expect ccp to do to it when skilling into the weapon makes it better , plus it's a rocket launcher it shoots straight it does not have a arc an that's what makes it deadly! Good game to you sir, kill ya later may the the smarter soldier win, take care. |
CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
74
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:58:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:first sgt cotman wrote:The gun is fine stop trying to nerf everything that comes out. If your really have a hard time vs it then shield tank. Flaylocks are good against armor not shields. Lol! Please just quiet down pup. Let the big dogs talk.
Ha I have been in my proto suit with over 500 shield and 200+ armor, and I have been litterally single shot killed by them on occasion.
Usually you just hear BLAM BLAM BLAM (In less than a second) and your dead. (If not before that even , as absurd as it sounds) I have corp mates that have been single shot in heavy suits! Obviously something is wrong. |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
186
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:02:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:first sgt cotman wrote:The gun is fine stop trying to nerf everything that comes out. If your really have a hard time vs it then shield tank. Flaylocks are good against armor not shields. Lol! Please just quiet down pup. Let the big dogs talk. Ha I have been in my proto suit with over 500 shield and 200+ armor, and I have been litterally single shot killed by them on occasion. Usually you just hear BLAM BLAM BLAM (In less than a second) and your dead. (If not before that even , as absurd as it sounds) I have corp mates that have been single shot in heavy suits! Obviously something is wrong. To clarify - I DONT want the weapon nerfed into oblivion, however I think rate of fire adjustments might be the way to go. Lol bolt can u check ur messages I screwed up my isk transfer lol thanks bro |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
172
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:27:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Are you guys aware of how godlike it is? Is there plans to nerf it down a little bit? It's getting to the point where people are just running around using nothing else specially in the Planetary Conquest that was suppose to bring Longevity to the game. Nobody will want to go up against full teams of guys using Rapid fire grenade launchers that are more than capable of killing with splash damage. Well its about time this happened.....now the stupid assault rifle users know how i feel when every one was just using that assault rifle trash! i say leave the flaylock alone....i want the assault rifle users to cry for just a moment more! |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
156
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:50:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:OZAROW wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Buster Friently wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Are you guys aware of how godlike it is? Is there plans to nerf it down a little bit? It's getting to the point where people are just running around using nothing else specially in the Planetary Conquest that was suppose to bring Longevity to the game. Nobody will want to go up against full teams of guys using Rapid fire grenade launchers that are more than capable of killing with splash damage. The gun is fine. Clearly you don't play this game. Go into some PC matches and its probably somewhere between 40-80% of all kills in a match. Some corps are just speccing completely into flaylocks and running dual core godlock pistols. It's need it's RoF halved and its splash radius normalized between variants. 1. It shoots missiles not baby grenades 2. It's useless till level 5 = almost 7mill sp 3. It has a three shot clip 4. It's the proficiency damage, rapid reload, an clip increase that makes it scary an foyr that much sp it should! 5. Instead of whinning about it or getting killed by it, follow suit an get one. As a scout it's about the only usefull range scary weapon I can use to back up my my knives so please don't go scream nerf hammer when almost every weapon I spec into gets beat because people spec it powerful an it kills you, play smarter, evade, switch weapons , hell get one, just don't ruin mine! Shotty already got slapped from people like you so just play wiser don't cry! I second this, seriously. 3 shots per clip, useless til at least level 4. It has a 1.5 splash radius which isn't much. And it's only good close range. So stfu and stop crying about flays, I even heard that the lav impact dmg is op lol like seriously? Do you get ran over by a car and live at full or mid speed? HELLO. It isn't op and doesn't need a nerf. The shotgun already got fked sometimes it shoots blanks. The mass driver got screwed and is slowly is getting better. So crying and learn some freaking tactics, don't stand still and shoot. Don't forget about your grenades. Don't move in predictable patterns. Don't get owned by a flaylock. Seriously if they nerf the flay they better give me a respect. I spent $200 and something dollars to support this game and bought mercenary, vetren and elite pack. If they did screw the flay I will just quit and spend money else where. The game is fine as is besides the random lag. People who qq about nerf need to get good. I can own a flaylocker with a military smg and jumping around with a freaking dragonfly scout suit . The time it takes for them to reload I use a flux and spray them , oh did you know the flay lock also hurts the player when noob team members run right in front. A third of my deaths are maybe that. A flay locker has to be exposed to use it because he can't the chance of suicide. Get good and stop crying.
They already said they are fixing flaylock and you aren't getting no damn respec you stupid scrub. |
Revelations 514
Red Star. EoN.
82
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Posted - 2013.07.15 22:55:00 -
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I agree with nerfing splash dmg.
I can get one-shotted by a Core Flaylock running a Scout Suit with core skills maxed. This is one-shotted from splash dmg, not direct hits. Jump over them? That works maybe one out of 20 attempts.
The only other weapon that can destroy me from just splash dmg in one shot is the Tsunami MD, but that still does not seem to hit me as easily as the Flaylock, this could be due to more peeps using Flaylocks of course.
Obviously nades do me in as well, but at least non-fused ones are earned.
Scouts obviously need some love, but taking what they are today; Core Flaylocks are a much bigger threat to my Scout than proto MD's, which I would think it would be inverse.
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OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
191
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Posted - 2013.07.16 03:21:00 -
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Xero The Mishima wrote:OZAROW wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:OZAROW wrote:Ps I been playing for 6 months without th weapons I just got an ya faylocks a problem that's why I spec into other things , name of the game cry baby, u don't scream nerf cuz you don't have the sp you make it an fix the problem YOURSELF! At least I didn't shoot you with a Flaylock. Lol rather that then your obliterating forge gun from a spot on the map that nobody can get to without a drop ship that you'll just blast out of the sky before it gets there lol Not my fault you depend on a crutch to get kills. If you were any good you would be in a real LoI corp. Lmfao aren't u in the starter corp? |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
158
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Posted - 2013.07.16 06:12:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:OZAROW wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:OZAROW wrote:Ps I been playing for 6 months without th weapons I just got an ya faylocks a problem that's why I spec into other things , name of the game cry baby, u don't scream nerf cuz you don't have the sp you make it an fix the problem YOURSELF! At least I didn't shoot you with a Flaylock. Lol rather that then your obliterating forge gun from a spot on the map that nobody can get to without a drop ship that you'll just blast out of the sky before it gets there lol Not my fault you depend on a crutch to get kills. If you were any good you would be in a real LoI corp. Lmfao aren't u in the starter corp?
I'm in the corp that's crushing your alliance |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
391
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Posted - 2013.07.16 06:19:00 -
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Xero The Mishima wrote:I'm in the corp that's crushing your alliance
Then stop hiding behind an alt. and post using your main. Its just good manners. |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
159
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Posted - 2013.07.16 07:08:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:I'm in the corp that's crushing your alliance Then stop hiding behind an alt. and post using your main. Its just good manners.
I can't or I would. Pretty sure the name should clearly give away the main. If not you are nobody. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens League of Infamy
262
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:14:00 -
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Xero The Mishima wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:I'm in the corp that's crushing your alliance Then stop hiding behind an alt. and post using your main. Its just good manners. I can't or I would. Pretty sure the name should clearly give away the main. If not you are nobody.
Cop out. LOL |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
169
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:21:00 -
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Stay on topic. |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
196
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Posted - 2013.07.17 20:24:00 -
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Mission successful! Flaylock beaten! |
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