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Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
596
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Posted - 2013.06.24 12:56:00 -
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Let's face it. We vets are gonna be the only people still around in a year BC new players hate this game even more than we do. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
4511
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Posted - 2013.06.24 12:58:00 -
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I think I might like this game in a year, so at least there is that to look forward to. My hope burns on. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
748
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Posted - 2013.06.24 13:01:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Let's face it. We vets are gonna be the only people still around in a year BC new players hate this game even more than we do.
I thought all the vets were ragequitting? |
Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
202
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Posted - 2013.06.24 13:01:00 -
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Do not despair, there is still some hope left CCP Eterne wrote:(...)Just a note but due to the feedback we've received since Uprising the roadmap has greatly changed since the Fanfest presentation. We're looking far more on fixing our basic mechanics than other things. Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=974172#post974172 |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
126
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Posted - 2013.06.24 13:02:00 -
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The vets will leave too, for better games, better systems, etc.
Once you have your main role pimped out, it is very easy to look back at how long it took and say meh.
I only have two more levels of the vehicle scanning skill left, and my armor build is complete. Since there is no point in wasting SP into a Vayu, and I have never been a shield tanker, I am just going to save my SP for the pilot suit.
Saving SP for something that isn't released, and might not even be worth it, is not an encouraging place to be. So my desire to grind out to keep my K/D climbing is falling rapidly.
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Musta Tornius
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
412
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Posted - 2013.06.24 13:04:00 -
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I've decided to ragevacation instead of quitting. It's hard to step away from a game you've played for a whole year. |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
175
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Posted - 2013.06.24 13:05:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:I've decided to ragevacation instead of quitting. It's hard to step away from a game you've played for a whole year.
this |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones General Tso's Alliance
36
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Posted - 2013.06.24 13:10:00 -
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I think I've played for almost a year. I'm sticking with it. I enjoy Dust for what it is and what it will be. On a good day, you can have an good team and a even better squad, reacting tactically to the ever changing battlefield. That's one of the reasons why I love Dust and talk about it often. I've seen tides shift dramatically in a matter of seconds with intensity levels beyond most console FPS games. There's just a satisfaction and a certain immersion to it that keeps me coming back. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
748
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Posted - 2013.06.24 13:15:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:The vets will leave too, for better games, better systems, etc.
Once you have your main role pimped out, it is very easy to look back at how long it took and say meh.
I only have two more levels of the vehicle scanning skill left, and my armor build is complete. Since there is no point in wasting SP into a Vayu, and I have never been a shield tanker, I am just going to save my SP for the pilot suit.
Saving SP for something that isn't released, and might not even be worth it, is not an encouraging place to be. So my desire to grind out to keep my K/D climbing is falling rapidly.
If they keep giving people things to aspire to, basically making fits more powerful, then they need to come up with some type of player segregation that doesn't break the game.
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
280
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Posted - 2013.06.24 13:16:00 -
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I'm still here. No intention of leaving either. Still enjoy the game and being in charge of DUST University keeps me motivated. |
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Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
1004
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Posted - 2013.06.24 13:16:00 -
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If they are tiny, how do they hold a DS3? |
Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
598
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Posted - 2013.06.24 13:30:00 -
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I'm just so...tired. everyday I post about how to make this game better for everyone, and so do many other vets, but no one listens to us.Who wants my stuff when I leave for PS2? |
Tectonious Falcon
Phaze O n e
586
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Posted - 2013.06.24 13:31:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I'm just so...tired. everyday I post about how to make this game better for everyone, and so do many other vets, but no one listens to us.Who wants my stuff when I leave for PS2?
Don't go to PS2 .... Trust me on that. Wait for Destiny or something. |
Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
598
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Posted - 2013.06.24 13:34:00 -
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Tectonious Falcon wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I'm just so...tired. everyday I post about how to make this game better for everyone, and so do many other vets, but no one listens to us.Who wants my stuff when I leave for PS2? Don't go to PS2 .... Trust me on that. Wait for Destiny or something.
Destiny looks to cod like. I like big battles with lots of vehicles. |
Travi Zyg
The Butter-Knife Bandit
72
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Posted - 2013.06.24 14:14:00 -
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i feel you on that whole being tired thing charlotte. i still like hopping on for some casual games, but i my self will be migrating to FF14 and for sure am scooping up a PS4 on launch. i really want dust to make it happen...SOON, but i unfortunately find that harder and harder to see every passing day. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
1004
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Posted - 2013.06.24 14:29:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I'm just so...tired. everyday I post about how to make this game better for everyone, and so do many other vets, but no one listens to us.Who wants my stuff when I leave for PS2? Its funny how you say you are trying to make the game "better for everyone". While most(not all)of your posts are about making super tanks. You dont seem overly concerned about any play style but yours. You seem biased. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
2068
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Posted - 2013.06.24 15:06:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I'm just so...tired. everyday I post about how to make this game better for everyone, and so do many other vets, but no one listens to us.Who wants my stuff when I leave for PS2? I hope you're not planning on being a pilot of you go to PS2... |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
753
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Posted - 2013.06.24 15:21:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I'm just so...tired. everyday I post about how to make this game better for everyone, and so do many other vets, but no one listens to us.Who wants my stuff when I leave for PS2?
Stop posting every day... just blitzpost for a week after every release. It's less draining... |
Ana Mosity
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.06.24 15:29:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I'm just so...tired. everyday I post about how to make this game better for everyone, and so do many other vets, but no one listens to us.Who wants my stuff when I leave for PS2?
Then just go already. You just sound like a whiney little douche with no more in you're life but the game and the forums.
Oh wait, you won't leave will you. No, because you want to be heard. You want to feel if people actually care.
If you really and truly hated this game so much you would have just left without another **** and moan thread. |
KaTaLy5t-87
Shadow Company HQ
64
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Posted - 2013.06.24 15:36:00 -
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^^^ This! If you're not happy with the game then leave, nobody will remember you in a few months and nobody will care that you left. If you can't be patient then that's your own problem. Go play PS2 and QQ on their forums when you're not happy with that game.
I'm sick of all the QQ threads on these forums. Say something constructive or keep your mouth shut. There's only one type of moaning I like and that is not the type that is done on internet forums. I love all these keyboard warriors who talk about things like they have some devine right to complain about everything. Go complain somewhere else already or complain to someone who actually gives a kitten what you think. |
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Altina McAlterson
Not Guilty EoN.
559
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Posted - 2013.06.24 15:45:00 -
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I'm getting kind of tired of the game because it feels like it's getting more and more about less and less. Most weapons have become either completely useless or maybe decent in one particular situation, all the vehicles are trash and 2 out of 3 suit classes aren't really viable.
And the only weapon that still even works has an optimum range of what, 40m? Max of 70m? American reference here I know...but 40m the range of a ****** high school quarterback that just got cut from the team. The distance from home plate to second base is about 39m. I know there's no direct comparison between real like and a game but we're on the other side of the universe having gunfights with our plasma rifles at the same distance I can hit a ball with a stick when I **** up my swing.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
425
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Posted - 2013.06.24 15:50:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Let's face it. We vets are gonna be the only people still around in a year BC new players hate this game even more than we do. I thought all the vets were ragequitting?
They are, it's just hopeful that they keep taking a peek back to see if things are fixed.
There are probably some insane new players who like the idea of the game that will put up with getting completely owned for 4 or 5 months until they can compete. Possibly longer if they aren't crazy enough to run both boosters non-stop.
I just hit 14 million SP, if I stay completely focused I could have this character completely specialized in about a month and a half. Maybe a bit longer to max out biotics and such.
I say that because after that it doesn't matter much. I can only bring the complete beastmode with that one specialization. It's time they look at removing the SP cap and accelerating passive SP quite a bit.
If there was ever a worry that the vets would get too big of a lead on these guys I think we are already at a point where it can't get much worse. They need to focus 100% of their concerns about players to the new players. And that is giving them a chance to get competitive.
I can run proto in a pub match against newbs and take on 3 or 4 of them while reloading. I can just move around a bit and patiently reload, drop a nanohive, start throwing fluxes, and then drop the pain with the MD and take them out.
In addition to removing the cap and accelerating SP they need to start new players out with at least 2 million SP. On top of that they need to allow for respecs to let them clean up their path after they learn what's going on. |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens EoN.
101
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Posted - 2013.06.24 15:51:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I'm just so...tired. everyday I post about how to make this game better for everyone, and so do many other vets, but no one listens to us.Who wants my stuff when I leave for PS2? Me.
But... don't go! |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
425
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Posted - 2013.06.24 15:57:00 -
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Ana Mosity wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I'm just so...tired. everyday I post about how to make this game better for everyone, and so do many other vets, but no one listens to us.Who wants my stuff when I leave for PS2? Then just go already. You just sound like a whiney little douche with no more in you're life but the game and the forums. Oh wait, you won't leave will you. No, because you want to be heard. You want to feel if people actually care. If you really and truly hated this game so much you would have just left without another **** and moan thread.
He doesn't hate it. He likes it. He's trying to help.
See you new people will eventually become bitter when the glaring issues start to wear at you. He's just come back from a break. He's one of the best tankers in the game. He tries to help new players out in squads, even random ones we pick up from pub matches.
The imperfects are similar. People loved to hate them, but they did care about the game. They tried to help.
I've put a lot of time and a lot of money into this game. I would hope that CCP does care what players like myself and Charlotte have to say. They ought to name a build after me with the amount of AUR I've bought in the year (nearly a year) I've been playing. I'd have courtside seats if I were buying tickets from a sports team. Ownership listens to the folks with those seats. |
Michael Cratar
Fenrir's Wolves RUST415
218
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Posted - 2013.06.24 16:00:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I think I might like this game in a year, so at least there is that to look forward to. My hope burns on.
What are you fueling your hope with? Mine seems to keep going out. |
Ana Mosity
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2013.06.24 16:01:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Ana Mosity wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I'm just so...tired. everyday I post about how to make this game better for everyone, and so do many other vets, but no one listens to us.Who wants my stuff when I leave for PS2? Then just go already. You just sound like a whiney little douche with no more in you're life but the game and the forums. Oh wait, you won't leave will you. No, because you want to be heard. You want to feel if people actually care. If you really and truly hated this game so much you would have just left without another **** and moan thread. He doesn't hate it. He likes it. He's trying to help. See you new people will eventually become bitter when the glaring issues start to wear at you. He's just come back from a break. He's one of the best tankers in the game. He tries to help new players out in squads, even random ones we pick up from pub matches. The imperfects are similar. People loved to hate them, but they did care about the game. They tried to help. I've put a lot of time and a lot of money into this game. I would hope that CCP does care what players like myself and Charlotte have to say. They ought to name a build after me with the amount of AUR I've bought in the year (nearly a year) I've been playing. I'd have courtside seats if I were buying tickets from a sports team. Ownership listens to the folks with those seats.
Don't you have a corp member or alliance member that's a CPM? Why not give him decent points to take up with CCP instead of all this forum rubbish?
Do you think all of this "I'm bored" threads help the game? Or do you think they might actually put newer players off actually trying it? |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
425
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Posted - 2013.06.24 16:17:00 -
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Ana Mosity wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Ana Mosity wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I'm just so...tired. everyday I post about how to make this game better for everyone, and so do many other vets, but no one listens to us.Who wants my stuff when I leave for PS2? Then just go already. You just sound like a whiney little douche with no more in you're life but the game and the forums. Oh wait, you won't leave will you. No, because you want to be heard. You want to feel if people actually care. If you really and truly hated this game so much you would have just left without another **** and moan thread. He doesn't hate it. He likes it. He's trying to help. See you new people will eventually become bitter when the glaring issues start to wear at you. He's just come back from a break. He's one of the best tankers in the game. He tries to help new players out in squads, even random ones we pick up from pub matches. The imperfects are similar. People loved to hate them, but they did care about the game. They tried to help. I've put a lot of time and a lot of money into this game. I would hope that CCP does care what players like myself and Charlotte have to say. They ought to name a build after me with the amount of AUR I've bought in the year (nearly a year) I've been playing. I'd have courtside seats if I were buying tickets from a sports team. Ownership listens to the folks with those seats. Don't you have a corp member or alliance member that's a CPM? Why not give him decent points to take up with CCP instead of all this forum rubbish? Do you think all of this "I'm bored" threads help the game? Or do you think they might actually put newer players off actually trying it? We don't have a CPM member. You are thinking of CRONOS, they have 2 or 3. |
Ana Mosity
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2013.06.24 16:18:00 -
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My bad then. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
425
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Posted - 2013.06.24 16:22:00 -
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I don't think anything will turn new players off more than getting stomped on by vets with 14x the SP they have.
I think they are going to be so consumed with getting stomped they won't understand the core issues within the game that are broken. How could they? To them even a duvalle isn't working because they aren't at Prof 5 and don't have enough HP to survive a gunfight.
If they buff vehicle PG by 10% the vets will be able to tell you what the implications are within a few hours. If the implications are good or bad it won't matter much because CCP won't react to their suggestions for months even though they usually spot on. < things like this are causing the bitterness. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
757
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Posted - 2013.06.24 16:31:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I don't think anything will turn new players off more than getting stomped on by vets with 14x the SP they have.
I think they are going to be so consumed with getting stomped they won't understand the core issues within the game that are broken. How could they? To them even a duvalle isn't working because they aren't at Prof 5 and don't have enough HP to survive a gunfight.
If they buff vehicle PG by 10% the vets will be able to tell you what the implications are within a few hours. If the implications are good or bad it won't matter much because CCP won't react to their suggestions for months even though they usually spot on. < things like this are causing the bitterness.
Yeah, have to agree on the new player concerns front.
I don't know what they are thinking... but I find the solutions they put in place are rather ham fisted attempts at fixing things. The battle academy, for example is not a great in-game source of fun. They need to put in a lot more thought so they can find a game suitable solution that enhances the fun within imposing artificial barriers on players.
Just an off the cuff dumb idea and not a suggestion, so I hope I won't get roasted, but having some type of planet to planet transportation system, with costs based on the expected skill level, could allow people to self-segregate. The beginner would not have the coin to get there (to high level planets) and would get owned if they did. Also, due to the risk/reward concept the ISK and drops in those areas would attract higher level folks who wouldn't want to waste time stomping newbs.
To me, this is a lot more fun that slapping people into a battle academy. It has the chance to add to the concept of the game itself while serving a purpose. More fixes should end up with this type of effect instead of breaking something or acting like a clunky barrier that gets in the way of enjoyment. |
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Avallo Kantor
DUST University Ivy League
98
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Posted - 2013.06.24 16:35:00 -
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Actually, I would argue with around 5k players, and a distinct lack of matchmaking we have a relatively large "effective" pool of players to be matched with / against.
Other games, such as PS2 for this example, have a great number more players than DUST (Although it's hard to tell since they don't publish currently playing numbers) there is a site that tries to track it, and they say the pop is currently around 8 - 12k players. The problem with this though is that it's spread across a number of servers, and even the most populated one only has 3 - 4k players max. Then because those players are split across 3 teams (assuming 1/3 each, which isn't true at all) you're only looking at fighting 2 - 2.6k players at any given time.
Other bigger games also have matchmaking in place so that at any given point your "Effective" pool of possible teammates / opponents is only a fraction of the total player base.
On some respect the lack of matchmaking (while extremely frustrating to newer players) allows for the maximum possible "effective" pool of players that you can potentially play against. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
362
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Posted - 2013.06.24 16:37:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I'm just so...tired. everyday I post about how to make this game better for everyone, and so do many other vets, but no one listens to us.Who wants my stuff when I leave for PS2?
Ccp didn't listen in beta why should they listen now, as for your stuff no one will want that either because the game is so poor |
KaTaLy5t-87
Shadow Company HQ
65
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Posted - 2013.06.24 16:48:00 -
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I agree that it must be disheartening to new players to pick up a game and get stomped by players with more SP than them but is that not the case in any game? If I picked up BF3 or CoD I would most likely be stomped by players who have maxed out all of the unlocks and have a better grasp of the mechanics of the game.
There will always be great players in every game who level up really quickly and are ahead of the rest of the player base. Should we nerf those players because they might stomp everyone too much?
I think that brand new players should get more than the 500k SP they currently get. This amount was reasonable for Chromosome but in Uprising 500k doesn't do much for you at all! I think that new players should be able to choose the type of matchmaking they would like. So they could choose to be matched with players of similar SP, thus limiting the amount of possible players or they could choose to play whoever the system puts them up against, which would include all of the vets.
I think Dust is a very harsh game for new players because the learning curve is so steep and I think that those of us who have been around a while can help new players by trying to get them to squad up or asking them to join our public channel so we can chat with them etc etc. Dust does not reward lone-wolf players very much and we need to help new players understand that they need to get in on the team action if they want to enjoy the game some more.
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Lowkiie
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
29
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Posted - 2013.06.24 17:16:00 -
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New players leave because most vets pub stomp them in proto gear. It's just not fun shooting a guy that is taking no damage whatsoever. All you bigwig high kdr guys who run pure proto are selfish. You think only of getting easy kills. I have a fairly high lifetime SP count and I run pub matches with standard and militia gear 97% of the time next is advanced gear. very rarely will I run with proto gear. Some of the blame goes to you but not all of it. CCP needs to pay attention to this. We need a mode with only militia/standard type dropsuits and equipment for EVERYBODY. Now, that being said. People are getting bored, B-O-R-E-D. I like this game, I defend it to people all the time and even I am getting bored of the same 'ol maps and game types. I know you agree the game needs a little extra spice. I think it was 42 pages of ideas on the forums where YOU ASKED US to come up with ideas for the game. people have been asking for Skirmish 1.0 forever and yet they do not have it. continued Below |
Lowkiie
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
29
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Posted - 2013.06.24 17:16:00 -
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New players leave because most vets pub stomp them in proto gear. It's just not fun shooting a guy that is taking no damage whatsoever. All you bigwig high kdr guys who run pure proto are selfish. You think only of getting easy kills. I have a fairly high lifetime SP count and I run pub matches with standard and militia gear 97% of the time next is advanced gear. very rarely will I run with proto gear. Some of the blame goes to you but not all of it. CCP needs to pay attention to this. We need a mode with only militia/standard type dropsuits and equipment for EVERYBODY. Now, that being said. People are getting bored, B-O-R-E-D. I like this game, I defend it to people all the time and even I am getting bored of the same 'ol maps and game types. I know you agree the game needs a little extra spice. I think it was 42 pages of ideas on the forums where YOU ASKED US to come up with ideas for the game. people have been asking for Skirmish 1.0 forever and yet they do not have it. continued Below |
Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
603
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Posted - 2013.06.24 17:28:00 -
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I envy you newer guys. I can tell you're newer because you don't know the personalities on here like the obvious vets do.
As an imperfect once said, or at least sort of what he said: "I love this game and I want to this game to succeed so we can stomp everyone." That's exactly how I feel. I bought Aurum tanks to support CCP in making this game better but it just gets worse. You rarely see any of the really old guys posting anymore and it makes me sad. Like, General Crowd and Bobthecakeman, two of my favorite ppl to play with and some of the best tankers don't even play anymore.
Nobody with over 11 mil SP sees the point to grinding anymore. I show up to the daily PC battle but that's about it.
I mean...I try. I have an salt in the instant battle academy just to teach new players how the game works and I help out every random who asks for it and any tanker who wants to know a good fit gets all of mine. I post intelligent things on the forums about everything from mass drivers to player renention, and about how AV is fine but we need tanks. I'm just getting tired of it all. I want this game to succeed but I feel like CCP doesn't listen to me.
Like, hate on the imps, but if CCP listened to them we'd have a damn good game right now, but instead they listen to nooblet fanboys who insist the game is perfect.
Anyway, troll on. |
Ana Mosity
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
18
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Posted - 2013.06.24 17:35:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I envy you newer guys. I can tell you're newer because you don't know the personalities on here like the obvious vets do.
As an imperfect once said, or at least sort of what he said: "I love this game and I want to this game to succeed so we can stomp everyone." That's exactly how I feel. I bought Aurum tanks to support CCP in making this game better but it just gets worse. You rarely see any of the really old guys posting anymore and it makes me sad. Like, General Crowd and Bobthecakeman, two of my favorite ppl to play with and some of the best tankers don't even play anymore.
Nobody with over 11 mil SP sees the point to grinding anymore. I show up to the daily PC battle but that's about it.
I mean...I try. I have an salt in the instant battle academy just to teach new players how the game works and I help out every random who asks for it and any tanker who wants to know a good fit gets all of mine. I post intelligent things on the forums about everything from mass drivers to player renention, and about how AV is fine but we need tanks. I'm just getting tired of it all. I want this game to succeed but I feel like CCP doesn't listen to me.
Like, hate on the imps, but if CCP listened to them we'd have a damn good game right now, but instead they listen to nooblet fanboys who insist the game is perfect.
Anyway, troll on.
Point me to one serious post where someone actually ever said this game was perfect. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
758
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Posted - 2013.06.24 17:37:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Like, hate on the imps, but if CCP listened to them we'd have a damn good game right now, but instead they listen to nooblet fanboys who insist the game is perfect.
Anyway, troll on.
I seriously doubt this is the case. I know the current plan is blame all the new people, or the people who are actually able to enjoy the game because they don't have 11M SP wracked up.
The new people have a good perspective on what it is like to be a new player.
The vets have a lot of perspective on how the game changes have had impact over time, how the progression works, and how to balance things as presumably they are actually good at the items the specialize in.
CCP needs to carefully weigh the material in the forums and realize who knows what.
We all need to have some damned patience as nothing is going to change exactly how any of us want it to no matter how long we wait. However, it might still get better over time as the fixes are coming in.
As someone in the software industry (sadly, not games... I'll take a job in the gaming industry if the pay fits tho -- I could create systems, utilities, tools, APIs, etc) I have to say that large projects usually have one to two doom and gloom cycles. It is somewhere near the end and all kinds of problems show up. This is where some projects fall apart. However, working past the first gloom and doom often leads to a second shorter issue where the massive fixes cause new problem. This is the toughest part.
Getting through those two humps generally provides a good core set of capabilities in whatever project it happens to be and then is easier to build upon.
I can't say if that applies to the gaming industry... but it is common enough in other industries. |
Somin Krais
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
91
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Posted - 2013.06.24 17:40:00 -
[39] - Quote
The way 90% of the posts are about people complaining about the developer, the content, and other players, I really don't know why you would be surprised that new players aren't interesting in sticking around.
If you are so upset about the current state of affairs, you can either just walk away and try again later or pop in a passive booster and walk away and come back later to refresh.
Or.. hop in a murder taxi and try to guess where you will be the next time the lag stops and your client refreshes. |
Lowkiie
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
29
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Posted - 2013.06.24 17:47:00 -
[40] - Quote
Thor Odinson42 said "If there was ever a worry that the vets would get too big of a lead on these guys I think we are already at a point where it can't get much worse. They need to focus 100% of their concerns about players to the new players. And that is giving them a chance to get competitive". This is true. The SP cap is wayyy over due for the 'ol dynamite pile. If you aren't doing PVP anytime soon, you should do away with all the capping thats going on. Some snacks for your brains to nibble on. |
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
758
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Posted - 2013.06.24 17:49:00 -
[41] - Quote
Lowkiie wrote:Thor Odinson42 said "If there was ever a worry that the vets would get too big of a lead on these guys I think we are already at a point where it can't get much worse. They need to focus 100% of their concerns about players to the new players. And that is giving them a chance to get competitive". This is true. The SP cap is wayyy over due for the 'ol dynamite pile. If you aren't doing PVP anytime soon, you should do away with all the capping thats going on. Some snacks for your brains to nibble on.
Maybe... but there are other solutions to the competitiveness issue than futzing with the SP cap. |
JerechD Diaboli
DEATH FROM ABOVE CORP
0
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Posted - 2013.06.24 17:58:00 -
[42] - Quote
KaTaLy5t-87 wrote:I agree that it must be disheartening to new players to pick up a game and get stomped by players with more SP than them but is that not the case in any game? If I picked up BF3 or CoD I would most likely be stomped by players who have maxed out all of the unlocks and have a better grasp of the mechanics of the game.
One of the good things about BF3 is that the best assault rifles (M16 & M416) and most powerful shotgun are the first to unlock as you level up. |
KaTaLy5t-87
Shadow Company HQ
65
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Posted - 2013.06.24 18:03:00 -
[43] - Quote
I never said the game was perfect.
I am interested to know what exactly do you use as a definition of new players? Just because you don't recognise my name doesn't mean I'm a new player, I've been here since beta and I have 11million SP and I still play every day. I play because I enjoy playing the game with my corp mates and friends. We laugh and joke about the issues and glitches and try to make light of the fact that half the squad might not make into the warbarge.
I'm no fanboi of the game. I know the game has massive flaws and they annoy me all the time. I just don't see the point in whining about them on the Dust forums. People are saying why don't CCP listen to the vets anymore? I'll tell you why; it's too much effort to trawl through all of the crap on here and the countless QQ threads to find the few that offer decent observations.
What do you hope to achieve by stating the blatantly obvious? We all know how many players are playing the game, we see it every time we log in. If you have had enough of the game then by all means go play PS2 and come back when you're sick of that game as well.
People say "yeah all the vets are ragequitting". I say good! Maybe if enough people leave then CCP will have to sit up and take notice. As long as I can log into the game and have a fun match with my friends then I'm not worried. The game will be fixed eventually, if people can't stick with it until then that's up to them. |
Osiris Ausare
TeamPlayers EoN.
95
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Posted - 2013.06.24 18:13:00 -
[44] - Quote
As one of those vets, I haven't played dust in at least a week, and I don't plan on logging on until CCP makes some changes, or at least stabilizes the game which at this point seems pretty far gone. It's sad because this was my favorite game, but the direction (or lack of) is driving me crazy. Until things are changed I refuse to spend any more money on this game, nor waste anymore of my time.
I hate to say this because I used to be one of those "blind" fanbois but not anymore, CCP hopefully you can get your **** together, until then you will find me in WOT. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
111
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Posted - 2013.06.24 18:19:00 -
[45] - Quote
Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Let's face it. We vets are gonna be the only people still around in a year BC new players hate this game even more than we do.
you mean because new *softcore* players hate this game. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
430
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Posted - 2013.06.24 18:20:00 -
[46] - Quote
Imagine a dude without a mic that starts up Dust without a clue of what's going on. He picks a race and finds the skill tree. I'm sure a ton of SP will get allocated here without any idea about fittings. As is stands the mistakes made here are permanent on this character.
Now that he's wasted a half a million SP he finds the fitting screen and hopefully doesn't screw up his starter fittings to the point of not being able to participate in a battle. Let's pretend he doesn't and joins a battle.
He joins a bunch of other clueless dudes and does well because he's a COD vet. After 25 matches he's thrown to the wolves. He joins a match on a day where the Imps have decided to check back in. There also a squad of Eon dudes that made it on that side. This guy doesn't have a clue what he's in for. He's got a KDR of 8.0 from the academy. 5 minutes later he's 0-12 and feels like he just got ran over by a truck.
I hear it over and over again that this isn't COD or whatever. But there is such a huge gap in the progression systems of both games that it's not comparable. You can be maxed out in COD in what a month? It will take you 8 or 9 months to max out a specialized character in Dust with boosters.
This guy will get better to the point he might be able to put up a 3-12 match going against the dudes above. But more than likely he'll do what the rest of them do and sit in the MCC trying to snipe after 2 minutes of playing. How long can that be fun?
The SP gap issue is a big one, a better system could help them hold on to new players. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
430
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Posted - 2013.06.24 18:26:00 -
[47] - Quote
My post above only deals with new player retention. I think the game is potentially doomed for this scenario.
Combine it will the players who love(d) the game and cracked out on it for almost a year now leaving and you've got trouble.
I'll be playing for a while, I'm not at the breaking point yet. But it doesn't change my ability to see the writing on the wall.
CCP sees it too or they wouldn't be jumping through their ass to get all these Dev blogs out. Personally I don't give a damn about the Dev blogs anymore either. Show me something that affects my gameplay now. |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
306
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Posted - 2013.06.24 18:34:00 -
[48] - Quote
Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I'm just so...tired. everyday I post about how to make this game better for everyone, and so do many other vets, but no one listens to us.Who wants my stuff when I leave for PS2?
Bunny love? Nah basically I'm a relatively new player, I just got in on the open beta at the end of January because of a reddit post. I stayed because I'm invested and I don't have BF3 (been told it's a solid shooter but lacking dusts vision/depth) or TLoU. I think new players are not sticking around long enough to get invested. It's daunting to try and understand the whole fitting/sp/isk system. I can only immagine a new players frustrations not being able to kill anyone or anything once out of the academy (which is 2 soon IMO). Even just the fact that you must enable voice to be on, and turn push to talk off, know/find a channel with people voices on it, and select it and try to get a word in edgewise? It's tough. There needs to be a channel for newbro's. one that CCP calls like "Click Here for Help!" and it's just a mess of newbro's getting help. Maybe the vets should populate it when they can. Each time you get a squad up (or solo) check the channel and make sure someone is there to help people out, if they are then no worries you can go back to squad/team/corp chat. |
Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
608
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Posted - 2013.06.24 19:11:00 -
[49] - Quote
Zatara Rought wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I'm just so...tired. everyday I post about how to make this game better for everyone, and so do many other vets, but no one listens to us.Who wants my stuff when I leave for PS2? Bunny love? Nah basically I'm a relatively new player, I just got in on the open beta at the end of January because of a reddit post. I stayed because I'm invested and I don't have BF3 (been told it's a solid shooter but lacking dusts vision/depth) or TLoU. I think new players are not sticking around long enough to get invested. It's daunting to try and understand the whole fitting/sp/isk system. I can only immagine a new players frustrations not being able to kill anyone or anything once out of the academy (which is 2 soon IMO). Even just the fact that you must enable voice to be on, and turn push to talk off, know/find a channel with people voices on it, and select it and try to get a word in edgewise? It's tough. There needs to be a channel for newbro's. one that CCP calls like "Click Here for Help!" and it's just a mess of newbro's getting help. Maybe the vets should populate it when they can. Each time you get a squad up (or solo) check the channel and make sure someone is there to help people out, if they are then no worries you can go back to squad/team/corp chat.
This is in eve. Confused why not in dust. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
1018
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Posted - 2013.06.24 19:15:00 -
[50] - Quote
Eve university does such a good job. Not to get down on dust uni, I am sure they do good things, I just dont think its enough. Hopefully CCP is aware and will take steps. |
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KERINMalik
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.06.24 23:39:00 -
[51] - Quote
Yeah it seems jin robot, mobius wvyern, amazingflyingpig and crash monster are the most influential posters here.
So they think.
Funny if ccp actually listens to those clowns.
The player base is in peril simply because ccp thinks the game is fine. |
GinnyHub
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.06.25 01:14:00 -
[52] - Quote
The tutorials are really nonexistant. Protostomping is killing the pub games. Vets feel the need for entitlement. Forums junk. The new player base is clinging on like a sticky terd, ready to stick to anything else that it happens to touch. Alot of new games coming along to stick to.
Dust is like a sticky terd |
Denny655
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.06.25 05:33:00 -
[53] - Quote
Osiris Ausare wrote:As one of those vets, I haven't played dust in at least a week, and I don't plan on logging on until CCP makes some changes, or at least stabilizes the game which at this point seems pretty far gone. It's sad because this was my favorite game, but the direction (or lack of) is driving me crazy. Until things are changed I refuse to spend any more money on this game, nor waste anymore of my time.
I hate to say this because I used to be one of those "blind" fanbois but not anymore, CCP hopefully you can get your **** together, until then you will find me in WOT.
Seems to be the consensus lately, as I havent hit my cap for the first time since open beta. 1.2 doesnt look much better. Guess we will see in the patch notes tomorrow. |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
25
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Posted - 2013.06.25 06:26:00 -
[54] - Quote
Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I'm just so...tired. everyday I post about how to make this game better for everyone, and so do many other vets, but no one listens to us.Who wants my stuff when I leave for PS2? I'll take it but don't expect to get it back when you return to the game. |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
25
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Posted - 2013.06.25 06:27:00 -
[55] - Quote
GinnyHub wrote:Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this......... Planetside 2
Coming to PS4 this year Where is the part about lasting impacts of player's actions |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
570
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Posted - 2013.06.25 06:28:00 -
[56] - Quote
Jin Robot wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I'm just so...tired. everyday I post about how to make this game better for everyone, and so do many other vets, but no one listens to us.Who wants my stuff when I leave for PS2? Its funny how you say you are trying to make the game "better for everyone". While most(not all)of your posts are about making super tanks. You dont seem overly concerned about any play style but yours. You seem biased.
+1 , I been telling him this for awhile. Tanks been OP for a long time. |
Lowkiie
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
29
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Posted - 2013.06.26 03:54:00 -
[57] - Quote
Crash Monster- "copying"Just an off the cuff dumb idea and not a suggestion, so I hope I won't get roasted, but having some type of planet to planet transportation system, with costs based on the expected skill level, could allow people to self-segregate. The beginner would not have the coin to get there (to high level planets) and would get owned if they did. Also, due to the risk/reward concept the ISK and drops in those areas would attract higher level folks who wouldn't want to waste time stomping newbs."
This is like THE best idea for matchmaking.
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Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
657
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Posted - 2013.06.26 05:02:00 -
[58] - Quote
XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I'm just so...tired. everyday I post about how to make this game better for everyone, and so do many other vets, but no one listens to us.Who wants my stuff when I leave for PS2? Its funny how you say you are trying to make the game "better for everyone". While most(not all)of your posts are about making super tanks. You dont seem overly concerned about any play style but yours. You seem biased. +1 , I been telling him this for awhile. Tanks been OP for a long time.
TANKS ARE NOT OP OMG. however, i'm pretty sure you're trolling. |
Rigor Mordis
Imperial Populicide Legion Alpha Wolf Pack
50
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Posted - 2013.06.26 06:06:00 -
[59] - Quote
nice QQ. Just giving it a bump.
--It's really "odd" of the fanboys to complain about your QQ thread. Yet, they are so willing and ready to say something with the hopes of getting >bent. How "odd"
---Just wait for CCP to acknowledge the GOOD feedback. (Not always necessarily constructive) Whether it be 1 year, or 5 years, said fanboys will be "qq" <<<"odd"
----Tiny player base is exactly right. That's exactly what the fanboys want. That's why they are always hollering at people to GTFO.
---There was a lot of people being constructive in the beta phase. (beta phase will never end for dust) But, if we all remember correctly, anything that went against a fanboys unfair advantage, was shouted down and greeted with GTFO, and a bunch "you need to do this and that"...And a bunch of other New Eden BS that is far from fulfilled as far as what was advertised.
--No more complex than it really is, they have allowed corps to be too big and the pc region is too small. Thus, when AND IF pc ever expands, the few corps already involved will be the only ones TRULY competing for any territory. Having the 'jump' on someone seems to be entire plot of New Eden.
-As we can all see....the majority of the noobs want to get in the pc corps...just like the majority of the noobs flocked to the corps with the most people during the beta. This will never change so 1500 is too many members in my opinion. 500 members triples participation in limited spaces right? Or, triple the space.....but tripling the space will matter nil because the corps already involved are raking in ISK hand over fist....so, naturally, they will always have the advantage.
Academy probably needs to be extended by twice the WP. I seriously doubt it will help. Noobs just don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. Heck, most of the vets don't either. Only the fanboys can sit around here and defend what is obviously flawed. And not just lack of participation in PC, but overall lack of depth period. So neat, there are a buttload of weapons and suits and modules and bells and whistles. That's every other TIME-HOG RPG in the world. Where's the WAR at? Where are the strategic chokepoints on the starmap? Why on earth are they not ALL being fought for and around right now? Oh yeah, because the teeny little part that is up for grabs, Doesn't, EVEN, WORK right!
Just keep stacking deck in the name of "deserve" and "reward" and see the player base dwindle. Keep relying on come-backers. Keep letting the favored have their little way. Keep letting fanboydom disillusion you from truth. Fact is, if this game were a disc game, it would be a fail of EPIC proportions. The only reasons that several people have stuck with it are, time spent, money spent, loyalty to their group, and a small, very small glimmer of hope that it will deliver on what was advertised. and SOON! |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
473
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Posted - 2013.06.26 09:46:00 -
[60] - Quote
Michael Arck wrote:I think I've played for almost a year. I'm sticking with it. I enjoy Dust for what it is and what it will be. On a good day, you can have an good team and a even better squad, reacting tactically to the ever changing battlefield. That's one of the reasons why I love Dust and talk about it often. I've seen tides shift dramatically in a matter of seconds with intensity levels beyond most console FPS games. There's just a satisfaction and a certain immersion to it that keeps me coming back.
+1 People may poke fun at this game but it is very fun when things are going well. As DUST matures we will have even more fun with the amount of options we will have. I have taken the last couple of weeks off from DUST and the forums, it does make it better but the low player count makes it difficult to find a competent squad who will work as a team. I am hopeful that the updates and expansions will draw in new blood, retain older players and give vets more of a reason to stick with it. We all have to remember that this game will never have an end game, finished state or even a shelf life. Monthly updates and core mechanics is a step in the right direction but we also need new gear and more skills also. The player base will ebb and flow but it will probably continue to grow because DUST will offer something to everyone if given enough time. DUST is a slow burn and should be treated as such.
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Battle Android Trooper
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
31
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Posted - 2013.06.26 10:40:00 -
[61] - Quote
My brother asked me about this game yesterday...long story short he will not give it a shot with the huge SP gaps (did not even get into the hit detection, freezes, Terrain issues, etc...). He is not the only one either who sees this as a huge problem with this game. I am the only one left of my friends who still play Dust...sad too because the game started off with so much potential. |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
329
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Posted - 2013.06.26 10:57:00 -
[62] - Quote
I have managed to keep my chin up in regards to dust progressing like it shoild but if CCP dont do somthing to really help the new players beond the acadamy . I.e. certificate system thatbhelps tgem manage their skills accordingly(would also see less mercs asking for respecs that and better tutorials better match making. |
PonyClause Rex
TRAMADOL KNIGHTS
229
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Posted - 2013.06.26 11:15:00 -
[63] - Quote
I wouldn't recommend this game in its current state to anyone tbh
I hope all the fanbois with there own agendas are happy with them selves steering CCP in a ret4rded direction, you know who are :P
and to all the people in both betas and release who tried to help the game for the greater good and is still trying, I salute you but your efforts were and are in vein 07
Yes yes I can already hear the little eleven-teen year olds telling me to leave if I don't like the game, its ok kiddos im out, I haven't played this game in weeks maybe even months and probably never will
Good luck to you all 07
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Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
210
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Posted - 2013.06.26 11:18:00 -
[64] - Quote
PonyClause Rex wrote:I wouldn't recommend this game in its current state to anyone tbh
I hope all the fanbois with there own agendas are happy with them selves steering CCP in a ret4rded direction, you know who are :P
and to all the people in both betas and release who tried to help the game for the greater good and is still trying, I salute you but your efforts were and are in vein 07
Yes yes I can already hear the little eleven-teen year olds telling me to leave if I don't like the game, its ok kiddos im out, I haven't played this game in weeks maybe even months and probably never will
Good luck to you all 07
Have you terminated all your characters? Why not? |
PonyClause Rex
TRAMADOL KNIGHTS
229
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Posted - 2013.06.26 11:21:00 -
[65] - Quote
Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:PonyClause Rex wrote:I wouldn't recommend this game in its current state to anyone tbh
I hope all the fanbois with there own agendas are happy with them selves steering CCP in a ret4rded direction, you know who are :P
and to all the people in both betas and release who tried to help the game for the greater good and is still trying, I salute you but your efforts were and are in vein 07
Yes yes I can already hear the little eleven-teen year olds telling me to leave if I don't like the game, its ok kiddos im out, I haven't played this game in weeks maybe even months and probably never will
Good luck to you all 07
Have you terminated all your characters? Why not? And if you haven't played for so long how do you know it's "current state"?
Because i wrote this 60 seconds ago and do i not have to be logged into the game to Biomass toons...
OK ill break it down for you because you seem genuninly concerned about my gaming experience, PS3 gets turned on play a round or two get run over, blobbed/stommped, OB'd etc etc ......yep game still blows.....loggs out
I spend more time fighting my controller than i do opponents |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
355
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Posted - 2013.06.26 11:26:00 -
[66] - Quote
For those who love throwing "It's summer" excuse out.
Gamers Play whenever
EVE is a MMO. MMO players take no vacations! Who you trying to fool?, You cheeky monkeys you! |
Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
210
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Posted - 2013.06.26 11:27:00 -
[67] - Quote
PonyClause Rex wrote:Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:PonyClause Rex wrote:I wouldn't recommend this game in its current state to anyone tbh
I hope all the fanbois with there own agendas are happy with them selves steering CCP in a ret4rded direction, you know who are :P
and to all the people in both betas and release who tried to help the game for the greater good and is still trying, I salute you but your efforts were and are in vein 07
Yes yes I can already hear the little eleven-teen year olds telling me to leave if I don't like the game, its ok kiddos im out, I haven't played this game in weeks maybe even months and probably never will
Good luck to you all 07
Have you terminated all your characters? Why not? And if you haven't played for so long how do you know it's "current state"? Because i wrote this 60 seconds ago and do i not have to be logged into the game to do that? OK ill break it down for you because you seem genuninly concerned about my gaming experience, PS3 gets turned on play a round or two get run over, blobbed/stommped, OB'd etc etc ......yep game still blows.....loggs out What posting to the DUST forum has to do with playability of the game?
I know you have not deleted your characters But why? What keeps you from terminating them? Forum access? A glimpse of hope for DUST improvement? |
General Technique
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
68
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Posted - 2013.06.26 12:14:00 -
[68] - Quote
Musta Tornius wrote:I've decided to ragevacation instead of quitting. It's hard to step away from a game you've played for a whole year.
Not really. I did just that with MAG, and I was never even tempted to go back.... not even once.
Funny thing is.... MAG was a GOOD and FUN game. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3625
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Posted - 2013.06.26 12:24:00 -
[69] - Quote
Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Let's face it. We vets are gonna be the only people still around in a year BC new players hate this game even more than we do.
vets are gonna be leaving sorry but not gonna punish myself playing DUST while its on ps3 based on Soon tm's and hope when i will have a PS4 available.
Sadly DUST concept still does more than any other game...........just hope they get it running on ps4 soon (without the tm) tbh |
Rigor Mordis
Imperial Populicide Legion Alpha Wolf Pack
52
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Posted - 2013.06.26 12:29:00 -
[70] - Quote
-tier the gear in pub matches: Militia gear only in the academy. Basic gear only. Advanced gear only. Proto only. Anything goes tier is FW and PC battles. Each tier could have a respective level of payout bonus for the match. Academy with the lowest pay-scale and Proto only with the highest.
-complete post-battle breakdown of enemy suits/weapons/vehicles destroyed: Supposedly a merc gets paid according to what they destroy in a fight. This is only obviously noticeable when one runs AV or Forge and takes out 5 tanks, 7 LAVs, 2 dropships, and 2 turrets while going 24-14-4. Then you can push close to 500,000 ISK for a pub. It would be nice to get at least a rough breakdown of what we killed during the fight. Damage dealt can be sky high while not killing squat. Breakdown should also include healing and support. Heck, a WP separation would work too. WP by support / assists / kills / hacks / destruction.
-bring back corp contracts: Have the option of 16-man and 32-man battles. !6 could run ambush OR domination. 32 could run those OR skirmish. These need to award Salvage, SP, and ISK for individual mercs, for each battle. Levels should be determined by the stake of the fight. Maybe losing corp receives 1% of stakes bonus and winners get 2% stakes bonus. Special salvage only goes to the winning side??? IDK There needs to be something for corps to do OTHER THAN throw their hands up and join another corp involved in PC, play an alt toon in a PC corp, or play a game where a group has a realistic chance of growing at a rate where they can be competitive in the parts of the game that enticed them to play in the first place.
-open up corporate headquarters: Each corp, no matter 1 merc or 1500 mercs, could have a headquarters "district". There they could stage corp drills, and depending on the size of their corp, they could make a miniscule amount of ISK/clones/fictional resources that could be plundered by any other corp at the attack/defend timer. This could offer the budding corp a small taste of what REAL PC will hold in store. It would give an opportunity to learn the workings, create a small corporate/pirate income, and give people something to do while the years pass and we wait on all of New Eden to be opened up to the ground forces like we were all led to believe would be the case right up until about a month before the "full game" launch.
-fix the bugs/glitches/exploits: 'nuff said there.
This is just some early morning thoughts. Now the ITES can scream at me about how that's all stupid and this is New Eden, and 'nerf', GTFO, etc, etc. |
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IceStormers
Forsaken Immortals
38
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Posted - 2013.06.26 12:40:00 -
[71] - Quote
They do need to have a client on the ps4 on its release, even if thats just the same quality as the ps3 aslong as its there to get it started
however i dont think the change to the PS4 is going to be the issue its the other games coming out that's the nails in the coffin
Im really holding for 1.2 looking to see the improvements and see if it makes the game more fun again
if not then the time is running short to get improvements going before other games come out and start pulling from our playerbase |
Devin789
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.06.26 16:36:00 -
[72] - Quote
I wonder what the numbers will look like a week after 1.2? Guess we shall see. |
THEDRiZZLE Aqua teen
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
28
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Posted - 2013.06.26 16:39:00 -
[73] - Quote
Then be apart of the solution not the problem posting stuff like this drives people away how about you go to tech support and tellthem whats wrong instead of complaining which gets u no where |
Lowkiie
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
31
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Posted - 2013.06.26 20:59:00 -
[74] - Quote
How dare you call them FANBOYS? I'm so pissed that you would give them that title.... FANBOYS, like myself want whatever we ar faboying(?) over to succeed. I want the player base to grow, I want to logon and see atleast 50,000 people on. These guys you are talking about are nothing but no skill BITCHES who are afraid that if the game grows, their bullshit status as top dogs will be gone in 1 day. THEY ARE NOT FANBOYS THEY ARE BITCHES THAT ARE SCUUURED OF A LITTLE COMPETITION. Flame all you want but you know who you are and you know I'm right... |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones General Tso's Alliance
40
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Posted - 2013.06.27 01:33:00 -
[75] - Quote
Kevall Longstride wrote:I'm still here. No intention of leaving either. Still enjoy the game and being in charge of DUST University keeps me motivated.
Hey, I gotta say you guys got something special over there. Good to see new players have an avenue to go to that helps the merc get acclimated with such a brutal universe. Much success to DU... |
geddeylee
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.06.27 07:48:00 -
[76] - Quote
2003 on right now, is that good or bad? |
Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
221
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Posted - 2013.06.27 08:05:00 -
[77] - Quote
geddeylee wrote:2003 on right now, is that good or bad? USA is asleep... EU wakes up for or is at work... Asia begins to leave work for home... Oceania has lost it's battle server recently What have you been expecting dude? |
Aleeki Mordom
Expert Intervention Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.27 16:33:00 -
[78] - Quote
General Technique wrote:Musta Tornius wrote:I've decided to ragevacation instead of quitting. It's hard to step away from a game you've played for a whole year. Not really. I did just that with MAG, and I was never even tempted to go back.... not even once. Funny thing is.... MAG was a GOOD and FUN game.
I agree with MAG i played 1000 hrs and left with no remorse after 1.3 update. Once you kick the habbit the game seems to fade away. |
VinceVon
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2013.06.28 00:42:00 -
[79] - Quote
Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this.........
Planetside 2
Coming to PS4 this year
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Lowkiie
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
32
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Posted - 2013.06.28 02:44:00 -
[80] - Quote
Well some kind of variety is badly needed. |
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Malik loves Love
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2013.06.28 03:23:00 -
[81] - Quote
Lol are they deleting threads about player numbers? They will delete this one to? |
Allah's Snackbar
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
263
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Posted - 2013.06.28 12:05:00 -
[82] - Quote
Well, looks like player numbers took a big plunge this week.
Curious as to what the theoretical floor is before player experience noticeably degrades - more that is. |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
132
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Posted - 2013.06.28 12:21:00 -
[83] - Quote
Send me all your ISK before leaving! :D |
Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
232
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Posted - 2013.06.28 12:34:00 -
[84] - Quote
Anarchide wrote:Send me all your ISK before leaving! :D You will have to wait untill Tuesday July, 2nd
ISK Transfers UnlimitedGäó |
Lowkiie
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
38
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Posted - 2013.07.13 02:58:00 -
[85] - Quote
Lol, I know this is a bit late, but uhhh... That's not quite what I meant by "I want to log on and see 50,000 people on". I meant in Dust 514 not how many are on in Eve also... *sigh *forehead slap. It's people like you that are making me go bald. |
Shadow of War88
0uter.Heaven
0
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Posted - 2013.07.13 03:23:00 -
[86] - Quote
Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Let's face it. We vets are gonna be the only people still around in a year BC new players hate this game even more than we do.
LOL DUST has a economy |
CONTRABONJOVI
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
59
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Posted - 2013.07.13 03:34:00 -
[87] - Quote
Ana Mosity wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I'm just so...tired. everyday I post about how to make this game better for everyone, and so do many other vets, but no one listens to us.Who wants my stuff when I leave for PS2? Then just go already. You just sound like a whiney little douche with no more in you're life but the game and the forums. Oh wait, you won't leave will you. No, because you want to be heard. You want to feel if people actually care. If you really and truly hated this game so much you would have just left without another **** and moan thread.
This says it all.
Lmao. Charlotte O'Tool. |
Alucard Fang
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
203
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Posted - 2013.07.13 03:54:00 -
[88] - Quote
Lowkiie wrote:Lol, I know this is a bit late, but uhhh... That's not quite what I meant by "I want to log on and see 50,000 people on". I meant in Dust 514 not how many are on in Eve also... *sigh *forehead slap. It's people like you that are making me go bald. How many players are on shouldn't affect you're enjoyment. It makes sense. We're on the same server. In the same universe. |
General John Ripper
The Generals EoN.
1713
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Posted - 2013.07.13 04:38:00 -
[89] - Quote
after getting most of my core skills, this game has turned into a flavor of the week type game. spendin sp on new weapons or gadgets. Trying something new every week is what is keeping me here.Although I do agree that there is very little incentive for new players to play.
Right now people are feel like they are forced to play so that they can cap out. This shouldn't be the reason people play. Some people even buy 7 day boosters and activate them on fridays. Forcing themselves not to play for a few days so that they can grind it out. I feel most gamers hate grinding.
I think new players should start with a million sp or maybe 2 million to give them an edge. It is enough to get them a decent suit and a weapon. I also think that passive sp should be buffed and active sp should be nerfed. That way people can just play and not feel like grinding. |
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