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VEXation Gunn
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
43
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:07:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:VEXation Gunn wrote:Jeez I can't believe I actually read this thread.
-conflict good. farming bad
-more districts anytime soon would just give the big blue donut 2 cronos/rofl more districts/isk
-Imps have lots of EU members/Nyain San so we planned a head of time to fight on all region timers (Don't QQ if you didn't)
-CCP needs to be able to expand the ability to beachhead with gen packs not remove them. All that would do is benefit the blue donut to force trench warfare on the front lines so they can farm isk behind it.
I'm am really starting to think most of you don't want to actually fight you just want to earn isk. PC is a failure in design because it rewards farming over fighting.
smh @ girls who just want to play Farmville on ps3 Well, noone is asking to farm ISK. I'm asking to promote more fights with more corps involved. Smaller and/or less skilled corps are trying to fight and get into PC but they cant because all that are left are bigger corps/organizations and better talented corps. It's easy to ask for fights and call other corps cowards when you're the top corp in the game with allstar shooters. A corp with an average of 0.89KDR knows that they cant compete with a corp that has a 5KDR. They would rather fight a battle where they feel they have a chance of winning. But the way things are now with limited districts, that won't happen.
Hey imps support small corps to join PC all the time. We have no interest in attacking the small/less skilled/noob corps and we sell our districts to them to try and get them involved. Maybe if you ACTUALLY cared about these corp you could take some districts and offer it to them yourself. Just like imps have.
As bad as the mechanics are you can still easily transfer districts and we have done it many of times so far.
What is the issue is that very few corps actually want to fight in PC. The problem is there are 3 main groups cronos/unclaimed/rofl and they have no issue picking on the new/little guy because they aren't going to fight each other. So soon as the new guy joins in they have only big power blocks to fight against. This is the product of ccp bad PC design and unless they drastically change it there is absolutely nothing you or anyone can do about it.
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xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
264
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:08:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:VEXation Gunn wrote:Jeez I can't believe I actually read this thread.
-conflict good. farming bad
-more districts anytime soon would just give the big blue donut 2 cronos/rofl more districts/isk
-Imps have lots of EU members/Nyain San so we planned a head of time to fight on all region timers (Don't QQ if you didn't)
-CCP needs to be able to expand the ability to beachhead with gen packs not remove them. All that would do is benefit the blue donut to force trench warfare on the front lines so they can farm isk behind it.
I'm am really starting to think most of you don't want to actually fight you just want to earn isk. PC is a failure in design because it rewards farming over fighting.
smh @ girls who just want to play Farmville on ps3 Well, noone is asking to farm ISK. I'm asking to promote more fights with more corps involved. Smaller and/or less skilled corps are trying to fight and get into PC but they cant because all that are left are bigger corps/organizations and better talented corps. It's easy to ask for fights and call other corps cowards when you're the top corp in the game with allstar shooters. A corp with an average of 0.89KDR knows that they cant compete with a corp that has a 5KDR. They would rather fight a battle where they feel they have a chance of winning. But the way things are now with limited districts, that won't happen.
Carebears don't have a place in PC. Even if they were given land people would surely take it for the hell of it. |
Novawolf McDustingham The514th
The Official Mintchip Fanclub
174
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:20:00 -
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I'd like to just be able to zone in to districts held by my alliance and do menial labor like mining with a forge gun or knitting with nova knives.
You know, arts and crafts and junk like that. I'm really looking forward to the day when I can just do a few menial fetch quests like, "Mine 6 grey rocks and bring them to Acclaim Galoob." |
Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
280
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:21:00 -
[64] - Quote
xjumpman23 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:VEXation Gunn wrote:Jeez I can't believe I actually read this thread.
-conflict good. farming bad
-more districts anytime soon would just give the big blue donut 2 cronos/rofl more districts/isk
-Imps have lots of EU members/Nyain San so we planned a head of time to fight on all region timers (Don't QQ if you didn't)
-CCP needs to be able to expand the ability to beachhead with gen packs not remove them. All that would do is benefit the blue donut to force trench warfare on the front lines so they can farm isk behind it.
I'm am really starting to think most of you don't want to actually fight you just want to earn isk. PC is a failure in design because it rewards farming over fighting.
smh @ girls who just want to play Farmville on ps3 Well, noone is asking to farm ISK. I'm asking to promote more fights with more corps involved. Smaller and/or less skilled corps are trying to fight and get into PC but they cant because all that are left are bigger corps/organizations and better talented corps. It's easy to ask for fights and call other corps cowards when you're the top corp in the game with allstar shooters. A corp with an average of 0.89KDR knows that they cant compete with a corp that has a 5KDR. They would rather fight a battle where they feel they have a chance of winning. But the way things are now with limited districts, that won't happen. Carebears don't have a place in PC. Even if they were given land people would surely take it for the hell of it.
CCP would be wise to find a way to give a bigger chunk of the player base something to fight over. PC is nice and all, but really its dominated by a small percentage of the players.
Its hard to find a way to make a "noob" PC for smaller corps that wouldnt just be rolled over. I suppose you could have a "tax" on districts that taxes by the member. But then elite corps would still dominate, and bigger alliances could just have proxy corps to participate.
Current PC is cool, but for the health of the game, there should be something "meta" for smaller/less elite corps. I suppose FW would be it, but right now its handled so poorly there is zero reason to participate in it other than for the ease of getting larger groups of the same corp together. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
1368
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:23:00 -
[65] - Quote
But right now...where would those small corps go? Every piece of land in Molden Heath has been claimed by the big alliances so they wont be able to hold them. But if they open up another region, then they can claim districts and attack each other. Of coursex, the already existing corps & alliances will want a piece of the new land but there is war right now in Molden Heath. Everyone is too busy.
I've seen zero atmosphere, vacuum cleaners, lux, and I believe BHD are trying to get into PC. But without backing, will they hold any district they managed to take? At least, if there are new territory, then they may battle each other. BHD's alliance can war with General Tso's alliance.....maybe Orion can come back etc. |
Rhorian Darkstar
Dark Force Katana General Tso's Alliance
47
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:25:00 -
[66] - Quote
Ydubbs81 RND wrote:But right now...where would those small corps go? Every piece of land in Molden Heath has been claimed by the big alliances so they wont be able to hold them. But if they open up another region, then they can claim districts and attack each other. Of coursex, the already existing corps & alliances will want a piece of the new land but there is war right now in Molden Heath. Everyone is too busy.
I've seen zero atmosphere, vacuum cleaners, lux, and I believe BHD are trying to get into PC. But without backing, will they hold any district they managed to take? At least, if there are new territory, then they may battle each other. BHD's alliance can war with General Tso's alliance.....maybe Orion can come back etc. were just biding our time, some of our corp did attack cronos.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
1368
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:28:00 -
[67] - Quote
Bones McGavins wrote:xjumpman23 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:VEXation Gunn wrote:Jeez I can't believe I actually read this thread.
-conflict good. farming bad
-more districts anytime soon would just give the big blue donut 2 cronos/rofl more districts/isk
-Imps have lots of EU members/Nyain San so we planned a head of time to fight on all region timers (Don't QQ if you didn't)
-CCP needs to be able to expand the ability to beachhead with gen packs not remove them. All that would do is benefit the blue donut to force trench warfare on the front lines so they can farm isk behind it.
I'm am really starting to think most of you don't want to actually fight you just want to earn isk. PC is a failure in design because it rewards farming over fighting.
smh @ girls who just want to play Farmville on ps3 Well, noone is asking to farm ISK. I'm asking to promote more fights with more corps involved. Smaller and/or less skilled corps are trying to fight and get into PC but they cant because all that are left are bigger corps/organizations and better talented corps. It's easy to ask for fights and call other corps cowards when you're the top corp in the game with allstar shooters. A corp with an average of 0.89KDR knows that they cant compete with a corp that has a 5KDR. They would rather fight a battle where they feel they have a chance of winning. But the way things are now with limited districts, that won't happen. Carebears don't have a place in PC. Even if they were given land people would surely take it for the hell of it. CCP would be wise to find a way to give a bigger chunk of the player base something to fight over. PC is nice and all, but really its dominated by a small percentage of the players. Its hard to find a way to make a "noob" PC for smaller corps that wouldnt just be rolled over. I suppose you could have a "tax" on districts that taxes by the member. But then elite corps would still dominate, and bigger alliances could just have proxy corps to participate. Current PC is cool, but for the health of the game, there should be something "meta" for smaller/less elite corps. I suppose FW would be it, but right now its handled so poorly there is zero reason to participate in it other than for the ease of getting larger groups of the same corp together.
I dont think they should separate pc by skill. I think if there are more regions to conquer, then more corps can participate. Right now, you see uncontested territory of alliances warring with each other and that's because they can not attack them all when they have to defend too.
So, since the big alliances are busy....smaller or less skilled alliances and corps can come in wage their own wars and participate in pc.
I agree with you....for the health of the game, something has to be done because there are only a small percentage of the playerbase in PC |
BursegSardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
154
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:55:00 -
[68] - Quote
Ydubbs81 RND wrote:But right now...where would those small corps go? Every piece of land in Molden Heath has been claimed by the big alliances so they wont be able to hold them. But if they open up another region, then they can claim districts and attack each other. Of coursex, the already existing corps & alliances will want a piece of the new land but there is war right now in Molden Heath. Everyone is too busy.
I've seen zero atmosphere, vacuum cleaners, lux, and I believe BHD are trying to get into PC. But without backing, will they hold any district they managed to take? At least, if there are new territory, then they may battle each other. BHD's alliance can war with General Tso's alliance.....maybe Orion can come back etc.
Yea, we've held a few districts here and there and tried some offensive stuff.
While it looks like a lot of Dust corps hold a ton of space, they actually have the manpower to defend it, so it appears we need more space.
But: would one more region be enough? And if its too much, then that starts giving a lot of passive income to the large entities to own for themselves.
If they want to expand PC (especially to ALL of lowsec) CCP needs to implement a contract system. EVE players need to be able to funnel ISK into the attacks and have Mercenaries (that is what we are supposed to be after all) go and do the ground pounding, but the district remains in the EVE corp's hands. Currently EVE corps REQUIRE Dust guys in their own Alliance to do the work for them for it to give them bonuses and the like... what if they don't care about Dust guys and would rather shell out 200M to a corp to fight over some districts?
I think this would solve any issue with there being too many districts, then CCP can just open up ALL of lowsec in one go. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
1369
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Posted - 2013.06.06 23:52:00 -
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BursegSardaukar wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:But right now...where would those small corps go? Every piece of land in Molden Heath has been claimed by the big alliances so they wont be able to hold them. But if they open up another region, then they can claim districts and attack each other. Of coursex, the already existing corps & alliances will want a piece of the new land but there is war right now in Molden Heath. Everyone is too busy.
I've seen zero atmosphere, vacuum cleaners, lux, and I believe BHD are trying to get into PC. But without backing, will they hold any district they managed to take? At least, if there are new territory, then they may battle each other. BHD's alliance can war with General Tso's alliance.....maybe Orion can come back etc. Yea, we've held a few districts here and there and tried some offensive stuff. While it looks like a lot of Dust corps hold a ton of space, they actually have the manpower to defend it, so it appears we need more space. But: would one more region be enough? And if its too much, then that starts giving a lot of passive income to the large entities to own for themselves. If they want to expand PC (especially to ALL of lowsec) CCP needs to implement a contract system. EVE players need to be able to funnel ISK into the attacks and have Mercenaries (that is what we are supposed to be after all) go and do the ground pounding, but the district remains in the EVE corp's hands. Currently EVE corps REQUIRE Dust guys in their own Alliance to do the work for them for it to give them bonuses and the like... what if they don't care about Dust guys and would rather shell out 200M to a corp to fight over some districts? I think this would solve any issue with there being too many districts, then CCP can just open up ALL of lowsec in one go.
There can never be too many districts man. Earning ISK isn't a problem. Most alliances and corps are already well funded. The districts they own now will continue to feed them
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Turkevich
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
38
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Posted - 2013.06.07 03:30:00 -
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CCP needs to be careful when adding more regions for PC. Since we only fight on temperate planets today the addition of maps on other planet types will create a huge influx of districts in Molden Heath alone. If we get more PC regions before new planet types it could make adding new types problematic. As much as I want PC battles closer to Delve it would be better to get the new planets in Molden Heath first. |
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StarBurst Stream
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3
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Posted - 2013.06.07 03:38:00 -
[71] - Quote
Ydubbs81 RND wrote:.....either in Molden Heath or outside of Molden Heath???
Molden Heath is congested at the moment, and there isn't any more space to expand to without stepping on someone's toes. A lot corps are not participating or not able to participate in PC, because they can not right now. It could be a corp size issue or skill issue. But by expanding the number of planets and systems to attack, then it may spread some corps/alliances even more thin and corps may be able to participate in PC.
PC is what keeps a lot of players playing every day, imo, so you want as many to participate as possible. The only other option for a corp to participate is to join one of The Big 3 and some corps may not even fit their criteria.
I just dont like to see consolidation of players all in one or two entities. I like to see variety, it will make pc more interesting. So, please can we get some word on when you will expand PC for Dust corps???
Great idea, +1 from me. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
1370
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Posted - 2013.06.07 03:38:00 -
[72] - Quote
Turkevich wrote:CCP needs to be careful when adding more regions for PC. Since we only fight on temperate planets today the addition of maps on other planet types will create a huge influx of districts in Molden Heath alone. If we get more PC regions before new planet types it could make adding new types problematic. As much as I want PC battles closer to Delve it would be better to get the new planets in Molden Heath first.
That is fine too....they don't have to open up more regions. There are many planets on Molden Heath that they can open up and allow for participation from other corps/alliances. |
StarBurst Stream
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3
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Posted - 2013.06.07 03:45:00 -
[73] - Quote
Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Turkevich wrote:CCP needs to be careful when adding more regions for PC. Since we only fight on temperate planets today the addition of maps on other planet types will create a huge influx of districts in Molden Heath alone. If we get more PC regions before new planet types it could make adding new types problematic. As much as I want PC battles closer to Delve it would be better to get the new planets in Molden Heath first. That is fine too....they don't have to open up more regions. There are many planets on Molden Heath that they can open up and allow for participation from other corps/alliances.
but aren't the other planets non-temperate? Because of this, wouldn't fighting on them will change drastically? |
Geth Massredux
Defensores Doctrina
378
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Posted - 2013.06.07 03:49:00 -
[74] - Quote
CCP Mintchip wrote:Team True Grit are watching the situation and when the time is right more may be added. At this point there is no definitive time frame for additional Districts for Planetary Conquest. :D
CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep AW Mintchip has a signature... You gotta be kidding me
- Geth |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
1371
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Posted - 2013.06.07 03:54:00 -
[75] - Quote
StarBurst Stream wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Turkevich wrote:CCP needs to be careful when adding more regions for PC. Since we only fight on temperate planets today the addition of maps on other planet types will create a huge influx of districts in Molden Heath alone. If we get more PC regions before new planet types it could make adding new types problematic. As much as I want PC battles closer to Delve it would be better to get the new planets in Molden Heath first. That is fine too....they don't have to open up more regions. There are many planets on Molden Heath that they can open up and allow for participation from other corps/alliances. but aren't the other planets non-temperate? Because of this, wouldn't fighting on them will change drastically?
i've never really bothered to look into the significance of temperate and non-temperate planets so I really don't have a good answer for you yet. |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
88
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Posted - 2013.06.07 04:29:00 -
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xjumpman23 wrote:Carebears don't have a place in PC. Even if they were given land people would surely take it for the hell of it. The only Carebears in Dust 514 are those who stay inside the MCC. |
StarBurst Stream
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3
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Posted - 2013.06.07 05:59:00 -
[77] - Quote
Ydubbs81 RND wrote:StarBurst Stream wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Turkevich wrote:CCP needs to be careful when adding more regions for PC. Since we only fight on temperate planets today the addition of maps on other planet types will create a huge influx of districts in Molden Heath alone. If we get more PC regions before new planet types it could make adding new types problematic. As much as I want PC battles closer to Delve it would be better to get the new planets in Molden Heath first. That is fine too....they don't have to open up more regions. There are many planets on Molden Heath that they can open up and allow for participation from other corps/alliances. but aren't the other planets non-temperate? Because of this, wouldn't fighting on them will change drastically? i've never really bothered to look into the significance of temperate and non-temperate planets so I really don't have a good answer for you yet. well from what I've heard only the temperate planets look "normal", the other planets are molten and gas planets, so gameplay would have to be different. at least that's what I think, but anyways I would also like to see more PC districts. |
dustwaffle
Ill Omens EoN.
62
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Posted - 2013.06.07 07:17:00 -
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Absolute Idiom II wrote:
OTOH, there is definitely an issue with not being able to attack districts outside of your own peak TZ. Our enemies' districts have reinforcement timers deep into US TZ and so we can't feasibly attack and conquer those districts. The same applies in reverse.
Or get more players not in your timezone into your alliance. We seem to be landing our attacks fine even though they're EU timezone. |
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
380
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Posted - 2013.06.07 11:55:00 -
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VEXation Gunn wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:VEXation Gunn wrote:Jeez I can't believe I actually read this thread.
-conflict good. farming bad
-more districts anytime soon would just give the big blue donut 2 cronos/rofl more districts/isk
-Imps have lots of EU members/Nyain San so we planned a head of time to fight on all region timers (Don't QQ if you didn't)
-CCP needs to be able to expand the ability to beachhead with gen packs not remove them. All that would do is benefit the blue donut to force trench warfare on the front lines so they can farm isk behind it.
I'm am really starting to think most of you don't want to actually fight you just want to earn isk. PC is a failure in design because it rewards farming over fighting.
smh @ girls who just want to play Farmville on ps3 Well, noone is asking to farm ISK. I'm asking to promote more fights with more corps involved. Smaller and/or less skilled corps are trying to fight and get into PC but they cant because all that are left are bigger corps/organizations and better talented corps. It's easy to ask for fights and call other corps cowards when you're the top corp in the game with allstar shooters. A corp with an average of 0.89KDR knows that they cant compete with a corp that has a 5KDR. They would rather fight a battle where they feel they have a chance of winning. But the way things are now with limited districts, that won't happen. Hey imps support small corps to join PC all the time. We have no interest in attacking the small/less skilled/noob corps and we sell our districts to them to try and get them involved. Maybe if you ACTUALLY cared about these corp you could take some districts and offer it to them yourself. Just like imps have. As bad as the mechanics are you can still easily transfer districts and we have done it many of times so far. What is the issue is that very few corps actually want to fight in PC. The problem is there are 3 main groups cronos/unclaimed/rofl and they have no issue picking on the new/little guy because they aren't going to fight each other. So soon as the new guy joins in they have only big power blocks to fight against. This is the product of ccp bad PC design and unless they drastically change it there is absolutely nothing you or anyone can do about it.
Well, I actually think that it's cool what you (Imp) do if is it true. Sell district. But even if you do that, there is big alliances that would jump over the new neighbors and **** them. And that's not that cool.
I mean, besides Planetary Conquest, What kind of activites does a Corporation have? ( I have not idea if I write it right ). There is not much to do. And then, players, after learn the game, get some skill, etc, they want to get into the "end game" of Dust. And let be honest, Planetary Conquest is not that easy to play. You need a "good" corp to get successful, and that's not easy.
So, have can a new corp keep their players if it can't offer anaything but Ambush/Skirmish. Players won't stay there so much longer if they can't play what their want. Besides, some players, are faster than others to learn and get better, so people will see that they got good in the game while their corp mates are still learning, and that makes you think, "Do I need to stay here? "Or do I have an oportunity to apply for Imperfects?"
You can join to an alliance, but there is not so much place for "little/new corps" in the "big alliances". I mean... At least Negative Feedback is taking the new corps, which I don't think so.
So, developing a new corp, it's not that easy and funny.
Particullary, I think CCP needs to work more in this aspect (after fix the bag of bugs that the game has) if they want to call Dust a fps/MMO instead call him just a FPS.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
1377
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Posted - 2013.06.07 12:24:00 -
[80] - Quote
That's the issue right there, Kono, you made some good points. How the mechanics are set up right now....it is just a sink for already existing and skilled corps. In order for you to compete, if you aren't good, you have to join one of the 3 known alliances.
Just like how players want weapon and gear variety, I'd like to see more variety as far as corps/alliances are concerned. Opening more districts, systems, and regions may solve that issue.
I think that it is a shame that large corps like delta force, pro, and subdreddit aren't in planetary conquest. We need more districts and regions so that some of the more skilled corps will be spread too thin and will not be able to hold all of the land. |
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EKH0 0ne
R.I.f.t
118
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Posted - 2013.06.07 12:34:00 -
[81] - Quote
CCP Mintchip wrote:Team True Grit are watching the situation and when the time is right more may be added. At this point there is no definitive time frame for additional Districts for Planetary Conquest. :D
CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep
Thats a real nice way of saying when we feel like it |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1182
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Posted - 2013.06.07 12:36:00 -
[82] - Quote
4 pages of nothing but whining
If your not good enough to take a district you aint going to be good enough to defend it anyways
Working as intended
EnglishSnake wrote:How about you fight for a district instead of asking CCP to give you one?
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1848
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Posted - 2013.06.07 13:37:00 -
[83] - Quote
EnglishSnake wrote:4 pages of nothing but whining If your not good enough to take a district you aint going to be good enough to defend it anyways Working as intended EnglishSnake wrote:How about you fight for a district instead of asking CCP to give you one? ^This.
Also, for those who are saying the rewards of holding a District are too low, remember the lessons of null-sec in EVE.
If you get too much money for just sitting on something, stagnation becomes the name of the game. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
1380
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Posted - 2013.06.07 13:51:00 -
[84] - Quote
Mobius Wyvern wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:4 pages of nothing but whining If your not good enough to take a district you aint going to be good enough to defend it anyways Working as intended EnglishSnake wrote:How about you fight for a district instead of asking CCP to give you one? ^This. Also, for those who are saying the rewards of holding a District are too low, remember the lessons of null-sec in EVE. If you get too much money for just sitting on something, stagnation becomes the name of the game.
What do you think will happen if no new corps/alliances get a shot of fighting over territory?
Again...opening more territory will allow for new corps to seize and fight over territory. The big names are in a fight right now to be worried about conquering another region. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1182
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:37:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:4 pages of nothing but whining If your not good enough to take a district you aint going to be good enough to defend it anyways Working as intended EnglishSnake wrote:How about you fight for a district instead of asking CCP to give you one? ^This. Also, for those who are saying the rewards of holding a District are too low, remember the lessons of null-sec in EVE. If you get too much money for just sitting on something, stagnation becomes the name of the game. What do you think will happen if no new corps/alliances get a shot of fighting over territory? Again...opening more territory will allow for new corps to seize and fight over territory. The big names are in a fight right now to be worried about conquering another region.
Nothing, if anything maybe the new corps/alliances will practice at getting good instead of asking 'Please Sir CCP, more districts'
Nope it wont, mass land grab will happen again, most new corps will miss out or get bombarded straight away and lose it because they are terrible then it will become an ISK fest for the alliances and farmville once again happens on a few planets because they never get attacked
I dont think you know how PC works tbh |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3426
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:40:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Hell if you join one of tge big 3 you are really unlikly to even get a chance to play pc as most of the bigger corps will only front their A and B teams for pc battles. So realistically the only way most people will get to participate is if more districts and systens are opend up. But even when more distructs ect opeb up there is nothing stopping the big boys from pushing everyone who isnt on par out. And with no whare other than faction warfair and tbh its pretty lame at the moment . We need the return of corp battles to at least get practice fielding 16 man teams.
not true. idk about others but EoN and i know 100% for sure SyN rotates and lets everyone play, we have a more selective recruitment process anyway so the ppl that actually get in are guaranteed to play if available |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3427
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:54:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:4 pages of nothing but whining If your not good enough to take a district you aint going to be good enough to defend it anyways Working as intended EnglishSnake wrote:How about you fight for a district instead of asking CCP to give you one? ^This. Also, for those who are saying the rewards of holding a District are too low, remember the lessons of null-sec in EVE. If you get too much money for just sitting on something, stagnation becomes the name of the game. What do you think will happen if no new corps/alliances get a shot of fighting over territory? Again...opening more territory will allow for new corps to seize and fight over territory. The big names are in a fight right now to be worried about conquering another region.
Any big name that gets kicked out or beat down too much will simply go to the new region and kick the little corps out and now it provides a bigger problem cuz it creates LESS conflict because the big boys will spread out pwn the nubs
Another region isnt the answer atm, maybe more districts in MH
what needs to happen is a proper merc system and raiding system/rewards so ppl dont always have to grab grab grab personally i dont want to hold alot of space for EoN. im comfortable with what we have but that dont mean i wont attack to have fights....raiding needs to be viable.
also keep in mind CRONOS is sitting on a BUNCH of **** they cant hold which also keeps out the little guys |
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
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Posted - 2013.06.07 15:58:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:4 pages of nothing but whining If your not good enough to take a district you aint going to be good enough to defend it anyways Working as intended EnglishSnake wrote:How about you fight for a district instead of asking CCP to give you one?
"Quoting" your own thread. Lol.
You have nothing to do here.
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EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.07 16:23:00 -
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Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:4 pages of nothing but whining If your not good enough to take a district you aint going to be good enough to defend it anyways Working as intended EnglishSnake wrote:How about you fight for a district instead of asking CCP to give you one? "Quoting" your own thread. Lol. You have nothing to do here.
Its quoting your own quote
Im also right aswell |
mikegunnz
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.07 16:25:00 -
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I get your point Ydubbs, but as others have said... PC is cutthroat and not necessarily for everyone. Corps/Clans can still participate in Dust. They can group up and do pubs, or even FW.
I'm sure as the player population grows, CCP will add more planets/districts. Then maybe other corps will have a chance for a piece of the pie.
My one suggestion to CCP would be to change the timers to a range, not just a hard time.
As jump said: right now all you have to do is sequence your timers properly and you can hold a very large number of districts with just a small group of players. (assuming they're good enough to keep winning)
If you change the timers to a range. Maybe something like a 3-hour window. This leaves a district vulnerable for longer, meaning that it would take more players to defend the same number of districts, since players cant just log-in just in time for a scheduled match. They would be on-the-fly. Somebody decides to attack at any point during the window. Your corp gets a 10min warning. You have 10min to get a group together. This probably wouldn't be problem if you only have one or two districts. However if you have 10 districsts, all with a 3-hour window, it takes a lot of manpower to defend those. |
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