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xjumpman23
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Posted - 2013.06.06 15:03:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Carebear Thread Alert
PC is not Farmville nor to print ISK for helpless scrubs. You want a district in PC then going to have to fight for it . Seriously though? So, you're ok with only a few corps in PC? Because if youre not one of the Big 3 or a corp with nothing but allstar players then you wont get it whether you fight for it or not. I'm not asking for CCP to give districts away just open more districts to allow for more corps and variety of fights
What happens when those corps are turned into the next DF or STB. NF sells districts all the time. If terrible players want to own stuff simply buy a district from NF via Kanes escrow service. It's not like it's impossible for people to own land. However being good enough to defend that land is another story. |
xjumpman23
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Posted - 2013.06.06 15:18:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:xjumpman23 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Carebear Thread Alert
PC is not Farmville nor to print ISK for helpless scrubs. You want a district in PC then going to have to fight for it . Seriously though? So, you're ok with only a few corps in PC? Because if youre not one of the Big 3 or a corp with nothing but allstar players then you wont get it whether you fight for it or not. I'm not asking for CCP to give districts away just open more districts to allow for more corps and variety of fights What happens when those corps are turned into the next DF or STB. NF sells districts all the time. If terrible players want to own stuff simply buy a district from NF via Kanes escrow service. It's not like it's impossible for people to own land. However being good enough to defend that land is another story. The idea is this: If there are more districts, then corps/alliances may be spread to thin to expand....thus allowing new corps/alliances to capture and defend those districts against other corps/alliances. And these new corps won't have to be elite either. They can be B or C level as far as talent is concerned. Think about it like this...Cronos and EoN is in an ongoing war right now, right? Would they have the manpower to conquer another entire region? Maybe but most likely not...now, a corp like Zero Atmosphere and an alliance like General Tso's can creep in participate in PC. Imagine if eve had about the same amount of districts.....how dull would it be if Goons or PL owned all. And they would be able to because they wouldnt be spread so far.
Corps and Alliances that effectively manage their timers will never have to worry about spreading themselves too thin. Newer corps or alliances won't have much of a chance to be a factor in PC, because there are those that only look to grief and ruin the PC experience for the fun of it. DUST is cutthroat in terms of PVP. If you are a mediocre player you don't deserve to own land. It doesn't mean you can't attack or work with other organizations in order to ensure you get a piece of the pie.
The weakest organization in terms of player ability currently are part of the ROFL alliance and next would be unclaimed. If you want to own land simply attack them. |
xjumpman23
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:08:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:VEXation Gunn wrote:Jeez I can't believe I actually read this thread.
-conflict good. farming bad
-more districts anytime soon would just give the big blue donut 2 cronos/rofl more districts/isk
-Imps have lots of EU members/Nyain San so we planned a head of time to fight on all region timers (Don't QQ if you didn't)
-CCP needs to be able to expand the ability to beachhead with gen packs not remove them. All that would do is benefit the blue donut to force trench warfare on the front lines so they can farm isk behind it.
I'm am really starting to think most of you don't want to actually fight you just want to earn isk. PC is a failure in design because it rewards farming over fighting.
smh @ girls who just want to play Farmville on ps3 Well, noone is asking to farm ISK. I'm asking to promote more fights with more corps involved. Smaller and/or less skilled corps are trying to fight and get into PC but they cant because all that are left are bigger corps/organizations and better talented corps. It's easy to ask for fights and call other corps cowards when you're the top corp in the game with allstar shooters. A corp with an average of 0.89KDR knows that they cant compete with a corp that has a 5KDR. They would rather fight a battle where they feel they have a chance of winning. But the way things are now with limited districts, that won't happen.
Carebears don't have a place in PC. Even if they were given land people would surely take it for the hell of it. |
xjumpman23
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Posted - 2013.06.07 16:50:00 -
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Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:mikegunnz wrote:I get your point Ydubbs, but as others have said... PC is cutthroat and not necessarily for everyone. Corps/Clans can still participate in Dust. They can group up and do pubs, or even FW.
I'm sure as the player population grows, CCP will add more planets/districts. Then maybe other corps will have a chance for a piece of the pie.
My one suggestion to CCP would be to change the timers to a range, not just a hard time.
As jump said: right now all you have to do is sequence your timers properly and you can hold a very large number of districts with just a small group of players. (assuming they're good enough to keep winning)
If you change the timers to a range. Maybe something like a 3-hour window. This leaves a district vulnerable for longer, meaning that it would take more players to defend the same number of districts, since players cant just log-in just in time for a scheduled match. They would be on-the-fly. Somebody decides to attack at any point during the window. Your corp gets a 10min warning. You have 10min to get a group together. This probably wouldn't be problem if you only have one or two districts. However if you have 10 districsts, all with a 3-hour window, it takes a lot of manpower to defend those. "Corps/Clans can still participate in Dust. They can group up and do pubs" Come on men, you're not talking serious. "I'm sure as the player population grows, CCP will add more planets/districts" They said the same about matchmaking since the first build of the closed beta. Do you see any kind of one? Because I don't. The game is cool, very cool. But you can't say that participate in Dust as a corp, is play pub matches against some groups plus randoms. It's ok if people start to admit that Dust is a "MMO" just for a few of players, and the rest, just playing a monotone FPS trying to unblock some skill.
DUST is an MMO for the few players. It doesn't matter if CCP opened more land. Players would simply take it away from carebears because they can. So have fun messing up our FW Q syncs and being terrible in instant battle matches,because that's all DUST will probably ever be for you until CCP adds PVE. |
xjumpman23
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Posted - 2013.06.07 18:44:00 -
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PC isn't for carebears. If you're not good enough you don't deserve to be in PC it's as easy as that. |
xjumpman23
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Posted - 2013.06.07 19:20:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:xjumpman23 wrote:PC isn't for carebears. If you're not good enough you don't deserve to be in PC it's as easy as that. You really dont have a problem with the low playerbase in pc?
There isn't a low playerbase in PC. The Current PC playerbase is comprised of players and organizations that are actually PC ready. Most of the DUST playerbase isn't PC ready. |
xjumpman23
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Posted - 2013.06.07 23:38:00 -
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xjumpman23 wrote:PC isn't for carebears. If you're not good enough you don't deserve to be in PC it's as easy as that.
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