"Soon"

I get your point Ydubbs, but as others have said... PC is cutthroat and not necessarily for everyone. Corps/Clans can still participate in Dust. They can group up and do pubs, or even FW.

I'm sure as the player population grows, CCP will add more planets/districts. Then maybe other corps will have a chance for a piece of the pie.

My one suggestion to CCP would be to change the timers to a range, not just a hard time.

As jump said: right now all you have to do is sequence your timers properly and you can hold a very large number of districts with just a small group of players. (assuming they're good enough to keep winning)

If you change the timers to a range. Maybe something like a 3-hour window. This leaves a district vulnerable for longer, meaning that it would take more players to defend the same number of districts, since players cant just log-in just in time for a scheduled match. They would be on-the-fly. Somebody decides to attack at any point during the window. Your corp gets a 10min warning. You have 10min to get a group together. This probably wouldn't be problem if you only have one or two districts. However if you have 10 districsts, all with a 3-hour window, it takes a lot of manpower to defend those.

"Corps/Clans can still participate in Dust. They can group up and do pubs"

Come on men, you're not talking serious.

"I'm sure as the player population grows, CCP will add more planets/districts"

They said the same about matchmaking since the first build of the closed beta. Do you see any kind of one? Because I don't.

The game is cool, very cool. But you can't say that participate in Dust as a corp, is play pub matches against some groups plus randoms. It's ok if people start to admit that Dust is a "MMO" just for a few of players, and the rest, just playing a monotone FPS trying to unblock some skill.

I get your point Ydubbs, but as others have said... PC is cutthroat and not necessarily for everyone. Corps/Clans can still participate in Dust. They can group up and do pubs, or even FW.

I'm sure as the player population grows, CCP will add more planets/districts. Then maybe other corps will have a chance for a piece of the pie.

My one suggestion to CCP would be to change the timers to a range, not just a hard time.

As jump said: right now all you have to do is sequence your timers properly and you can hold a very large number of districts with just a small group of players. (assuming they're good enough to keep winning)

If you change the timers to a range. Maybe something like a 3-hour window. This leaves a district vulnerable for longer, meaning that it would take more players to defend the same number of districts, since players cant just log-in just in time for a scheduled match. They would be on-the-fly. Somebody decides to attack at any point during the window. Your corp gets a 10min warning. You have 10min to get a group together. This probably wouldn't be problem if you only have one or two districts. However if you have 10 districsts, all with a 3-hour window, it takes a lot of manpower to defend those.

"Corps/Clans can still participate in Dust. They can group up and do pubs"

Come on men, you're not talking serious.

"I'm sure as the player population grows, CCP will add more planets/districts"

They said the same about matchmaking since the first build of the closed beta. Do you see any kind of one? Because I don't.

The game is cool, very cool. But you can't say that participate in Dust as a corp, is play pub matches against some groups plus randoms. It's ok if people start to admit that Dust is a "MMO" just for a few of players, and the rest, just playing a monotone FPS trying to unblock some skill.

I, personally, don't see a problem with the current system. If you have 10 mins to get people together as opposed to 24 hrs then you will have to live on dust to hold your districts. For a small corp with about 5 districts....can be a busy day for a corp if their timers aren't overlapping.

Any big name that gets kicked out or beat down too much will simply go to the new region and kick the little corps out
and now it provides a bigger problem cuz it creates LESS conflict because the big boys will spread out pwn the nubs

Another region isnt the answer atm, maybe more districts in MH

what needs to happen is a proper merc system and raiding system/rewards so ppl dont always have to grab grab grab
personally i dont want to hold alot of space for EoN. im comfortable with what we have but that dont mean i wont attack to have fights....raiding needs to be viable.

also keep in mind CRONOS is sitting on a BUNCH of **** they cant hold which also keeps out the little guys

I probably wasn't clear. Your district wouldn't be vulnerable for 24 hours, with a 10min warning. You'd have a scheduled 3-hour window of vulnerability. During this 3-hour window, is when you get your 10min warning.

Example:

Ahrendee schedules their window from 8pm-11pm EST. Another corp may randomly attack at any time during that period. You get a 10min warning (for argument's sake, make it a 30min warning) You have that warning time to get your players out of pubs, or to get them online etc. Not that big of a deal.

Now if you wanted to hold 10 districts, this is where it would be tougher for you. More windows, some of which may overlap, meaning it'd be tougher for you to hold them all since you may have to fight multiple concurrent battles... giving the "little guy" a chance to take one of your districts.

Well, why not a 24 hour warning but with a 3 hr interval? It will still be tougher to hold because you can still be scheduled with overlapping matches but at least you dont have to be on for 3 hrs everyday. Right now, you can sign on right before the battle and leave if you have real life engagements. As opposed to a ten or thirty min warning, where you have to sign on and wait for 3 hrs just in case.

The 3 hr window isn't a bad idea...I just have issue with the short warning time.

I, personally, don't see a problem with the current system. If you have 10 mins to get people together as opposed to 24 hrs then you will have to live on dust to hold your districts. For a small corp with about 5 districts....can be a busy day for a corp if their timers aren't overlapping.

I don't know why you are disregarding all of my numbers above, Ydubbs. The more battles and churn there is in PC the more net loss there is going to be and the harder it is for small corps to sustain. The more battles that occur because of players buying clone packs the higher average clone costs are. The higher average clone costs are the more costly war is in general. The more costly, the less profitable PC is. The less profitable, the more funds are needed from alternative sources...i.e. corp taxes...re: harder it is for small corps.

What it sounds like to me is that we want something out there that lets corps 'own' their distinguishment. All we have at the moment are "pies in space" with names next to them that basically just show that at one point in time, corps had enough organization, opporunity, resources and skill to take the land.

I) There are corps that want land for the isk.
II) There are those that want it for the fights.
III) Then there are those that want it for the glory.

I) is a pipe dream for all but the best-of-the-best.

II) Have other sources to find this...but I think power blocs inhibit the accessibility of good fights, or make them come with a premium. Interestingly, I'm curious of the difference in corp experience with profits from PC compared to the old Corp betting system.

III) If many corps think they can take and hold land forever, the will find, at least now, maintaining the resources to make this possible for PC very difficult.

Add a district cap per corp and open up a new region. Remove ringers from PC.

Sit back, watch powerblocks split apart to deal with the inrush of 90% of the Dust population who wants to play the game, sounds good to me.

PC isn't for carebears. If you're not good enough you don't deserve to be in PC it's as easy as that.

Dont think that it is viable but removing ringers would help as well.

You really dont have a problem with the low playerbase in pc?

You really dont have a problem with the low playerbase in pc?

Dont think that it is viable but removing ringers would help as well.

Sure it is, what isn't viable about it? They could introduce it the same way as PI for eve players where as you train a skill to allow another planet to be exploited. It curbs unlimited expansion and promotes competition.

How would that raise player base?

How would opening more districts and allow for new corps and less skilled corps to particpate in PC raise player base?

Add a district cap per corp and open up a new region. Remove ringers from PC.

Sit back, watch powerblocks split apart to deal with the inrush of 90% of the Dust population who wants to play the game, sounds good to me.

Remove ringers from PC.

They have a district, get their district taken and then back to square one, do you have any foresight?

The only real option is giving some districts the ability to change their districts from an 16v16 to an 8v8 and allow them to pick an objective game mode of their choice...

Hell if you join one of tge big 3 you are really unlikly to even get a chance to play pc as most of the bigger corps will only front their A and B teams for pc battles. So realistically the only way most people will get to participate is if more districts and systens are opend up. But even when more distructs ect opeb up there is nothing stopping the big boys from pushing everyone who isnt on par out. And with no whare other than faction warfair and tbh its pretty lame at the moment . We need the return of corp battles to at least get practice fielding 16 man teams.

lol @ removing ringers

Kinda defeats the purpose of forming alliances, and being you know, A MERCENARY

@ Sheneighway

Omg...someone gets it! I was wondering how to make it more clear. Even if they dont agree that it would work, it just didnt seem like people were grasping the concept or the theory behind it.

@ Sheneighway

Omg...someone gets it! I was wondering how to make it more clear. Even if they dont agree that it would work, it just didnt seem like people were grasping the concept or the theory behind it.