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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
1351
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Posted - 2013.06.06 11:37:00 -
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.....either in Molden Heath or outside of Molden Heath???
Molden Heath is congested at the moment, and there isn't any more space to expand to without stepping on someone's toes. A lot corps are not participating or not able to participate in PC, because they can not right now. It could be a corp size issue or skill issue. But by expanding the number of planets and systems to attack, then it may spread some corps/alliances even more thin and corps may be able to participate in PC.
PC is what keeps a lot of players playing every day, imo, so you want as many to participate as possible. The only other option for a corp to participate is to join one of The Big 3 and some corps may not even fit their criteria.
I just dont like to see consolidation of players all in one or two entities. I like to see variety, it will make pc more interesting. So, please can we get some word on when you will expand PC for Dust corps??? |

Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
237
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Posted - 2013.06.06 11:37:00 -
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"Soon" |

pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
248
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Posted - 2013.06.06 11:44:00 -
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Hell if you join one of tge big 3 you are really unlikly to even get a chance to play pc as most of the bigger corps will only front their A and B teams for pc battles. So realistically the only way most people will get to participate is if more districts and systens are opend up. But even when more distructs ect opeb up there is nothing stopping the big boys from pushing everyone who isnt on par out. And with no whare other than faction warfair and tbh its pretty lame at the moment . We need the return of corp battles to at least get practice fielding 16 man teams. |

Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
1355
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Posted - 2013.06.06 11:45:00 -
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I'd like CCP to give some intel on it. I just a read an article on Eve's forums where CCP posted about introducing satellites. One poster asked them to sticky it and Foxfour did it immediately. I am beginning to get a little jealous lol |

EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1173
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Posted - 2013.06.06 11:46:00 -
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How about you fight for a district instead of asking CCP to give you one? |

Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
237
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Posted - 2013.06.06 11:48:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:I'd like CCP to give some intel on it. I just a read an article on Eve's forums where CCP posted about introducing satellites. One poster asked them to sticky it and Foxfour did it immediately. I am beginning to get a little jealous lol
Dust doesnt pay their bills and the eve pilots will drop down to fellate ccp at the drop of a hat so they get more time and attention put into their stuff Welcome to second class status |

Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
64
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Posted - 2013.06.06 11:50:00 -
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This will also give us smaller corps a "chance" to practice as well. At least I hope  |

Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
1355
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Posted - 2013.06.06 11:57:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Hell if you join one of tge big 3 you are really unlikly to even get a chance to play pc as most of the bigger corps will only front their A and B teams for pc battles. So realistically the only way most people will get to participate is if more districts and systens are opend up. But even when more distructs ect opeb up there is nothing stopping the big boys from pushing everyone who isnt on par out. And with no whare other than faction warfair and tbh its pretty lame at the moment . We need the return of corp battles to at least get practice fielding 16 man teams.
Yea, see I'd like to see more corps and alliances like yours participate in PC. The problem just boils down to everyone playing it safe and wanting to be with the best...and that just makes the strong, stronger.
I dont know how to counter that other than not allowing ringers. Because corps will only be able to hold districts that their numbers & respect will allow for. So, hopefully, they wouldnt attack your district and hold it if they physically couldnt. In that sort of system then the larger corporations (member sized) will hold an advantage to how many districts one corp can hold.
Because if it is skill-based (which many will argue should be the only factor) then there will be but so many district owners because most players are not talented shooters. But if the advantage is given to the corps that can actually field multiple timers........if a skilled corp took one of their districts, then they will still have others.
Just my theoretics |

Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
1355
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Posted - 2013.06.06 12:02:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:How about you fight for a district instead of asking CCP to give you one?
They can fight to keep it...how do you propose a level C corp to take a district if only higher tiered corps owns all of the districts? Inve been watching a corp named Zero Atmosphere, trying relentlessly to get into PC but they just havent beaten anyone yet.
We can say that only the strong survive but if players can't play due to a limited amount of districts then, they won't play dust. And well, there goes our playerbase. |

Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
1355
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Posted - 2013.06.06 12:05:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:I'd like CCP to give some intel on it. I just a read an article on Eve's forums where CCP posted about introducing satellites. One poster asked them to sticky it and Foxfour did it immediately. I am beginning to get a little jealous lol Dust doesnt pay their bills and the eve pilots will drop down to fellate ccp at the drop of a hat so they get more time and attention put into their stuff Welcome to second class status
Ouch....lol
One thing is for sure, they are getting paid from Dust though. I know players who bought that $99 package before the new merc packs. And with all of these sagas running around...I know people have spent money. Especially when the passive omega boosters were on sale. And I know some eve players who are playing free as well. |
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ReGnYuM
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
97
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Posted - 2013.06.06 12:15:00 -
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Carebear Thread Alert
PC is not Farmville nor to print ISK for helpless scrubs. You want a district in PC then going to have to fight for it . |

Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
371
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Posted - 2013.06.06 12:34:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Carebear Thread Alert
PC is not Farmville nor to print ISK for helpless scrubs. You want a district in PC then going to have to fight for it .
Go to a psychiatrist. Stop being such a violent person. |

Icy TIG3R
Red Star. EoN.
356
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Posted - 2013.06.06 12:41:00 -
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I'm pretty sure the point of keeping the play area small is to ENSURE THAT PEOPLE STEP ON EACH OTHERS TOES.
We've had way too many corps sit back and farm ISK with districts, now there's a real risk and reward. |

Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1061
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Posted - 2013.06.06 12:45:00 -
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I don't think CCP needs to introduce more districts until they boost up their player base. When next gen drops, I'm sure there will be plenty of districts for those that want them.
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CCP Mintchip
C C P C C P Alliance
75

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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:40:00 -
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Team True Grit are watching the situation and when the time is right more may be added. At this point there is no definitive time frame for additional Districts for Planetary Conquest. :D
CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @Mintchiplol Dust 514 Community Rep |
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steadyhand amarr
Amarr Immortal Volunteers
662
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:45:00 -
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Translated back to the drawing board as pc is only used and played by the 1% everyone else is shut out |

Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
103
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:48:00 -
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Districts are still getting flipped constantly.
What it looks to me what CCP is doing (which is a good idea to me) is they're waiting for when districts stop the constant flipping or Wars ending. Something like a peace era. Than they will open up more space to cause more conflict between Corps/Alliances and break bonds. |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
22817

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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:50:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:I'd like CCP to give some intel on it. I just a read an article on Eve's forums where CCP posted about introducing satellites. One poster asked them to sticky it and Foxfour did it immediately. I am beginning to get a little jealous lol
More intel on what? |
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Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
103
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:52:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Hell if you join one of tge big 3 you are really unlikly to even get a chance to play pc as most of the bigger corps will only front their A and B teams for pc battles. So realistically the only way most people will get to participate is if more districts and systens are opend up. But even when more distructs ect opeb up there is nothing stopping the big boys from pushing everyone who isnt on par out. And with no whare other than faction warfair and tbh its pretty lame at the moment . We need the return of corp battles to at least get practice fielding 16 man teams.
Though I would prefer for CCP to wait much longer before they open up more space for Corps to take, there are reasons that stop the "big boys" from jumping right into the new release.
Like most people, Nobody wants to be on dust 24/7 (More than what I can say for some).
This keeps Corps from taking more districts than they feel they can take.
To summarize things, If CCP was to open up more space at this very moment, there would be a place for the "smaller corps". |

Karl Koekwaus
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
83
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:53:00 -
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If CCP adds more districts, why do you think the corps who own districts now won't take them and get even more money from them than they get now? |
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Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
103
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:53:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:How about you fight for a district instead of asking CCP to give you one?
+1 |

Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
316
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:54:00 -
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Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:Districts are still getting flipped constantly.
What it looks to me what CCP is doing (which is a good idea to me) is they're waiting for when districts stop the constant flipping or Wars ending. Something like a peace era. Than they will open up more space to cause more conflict between Corps/Alliances and break bonds.
so they're going to wait until all the good people quit the game because no one can/wants to fight them anymore.
that's basically the only way there will be peace in dust. it's also the condition dust dies in. We're mercenaries, peace is terrible for business. |

KatanaPT
Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance
165
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:54:00 -
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Karl Koekwaus wrote:If CCP adds more districts, why do you think the corps who own districts now won't take them and get even more money from them than they get now?
Manpower and RT window. |

Absolute Idiom II
BetaMax. CRONOS.
106
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:54:00 -
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Stepping on peoples toes is the entire point. There shouldn't be room for everyone to have a district; if there was there woudn't be much of a reason to attack.
OTOH, there is definitely an issue with not being able to attack districts outside of your own peak TZ. Our enemies' districts have reinforcement timers deep into US TZ and so we can't feasibly attack and conquer those districts. The same applies in reverse.
So whilst we're sitting right next door to each other, both corps have plenty of districts that are not under attack.
Makes me think that you should only get bonuses from your district for the period of the day that you are willing to have it vulnerable to attack. Can only defend it for 4 hours per day, in EU TZ? Then you get only 4 hrs worth of reinforcements.
Or possibly some sort of 'hot racking' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_racking where a district can have multiple owners all responsible for defending whatever they are capable of. It's probably too complex to implement or understand though... |

Absolute Idiom II
BetaMax. CRONOS.
106
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:55:00 -
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I'll just add that the only thing that would make CCP think there should be more districts is EVEN MORE battles each day. |

Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
103
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:57:00 -
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The fact that the Corp Member Size Cap is so high should shout in all of the people's ears who are complaining about smaller corps not have a place in PC that NEW EDEN ISN'T A PLACE FOR SMALL CORPS |

LongLostLust
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
26
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:57:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:I'd like CCP to give some intel on it. I just a read an article on Eve's forums where CCP posted about introducing satellites. One poster asked them to sticky it and Foxfour did it immediately. I am beginning to get a little jealous lol More intel on what? Info on a date more regions will be released. Also allowing corps to buy multiple clone packs was a big mistake. There are like 20 corps with districts. There would be a lot more PC action if owned by 250 different corps. Smaller corps have little chance and segregating your only actual unique feature from 80% of your already small playerbase isn't helping matters. |

Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
103
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:59:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:Districts are still getting flipped constantly.
What it looks to me what CCP is doing (which is a good idea to me) is they're waiting for when districts stop the constant flipping or Wars ending. Something like a peace era. Than they will open up more space to cause more conflict between Corps/Alliances and break bonds. so they're going to wait until all the good people quit the game because no one can/wants to fight them anymore. that's basically the only way there will be peace in dust. it's also the condition dust dies in. We're mercenaries, peace is terrible for business.
Maybe you didn't understand what I said. Read it over.
Basically, when people(Corps/Alliances) are comfortable about where they stand, that should be the time for more space to open.
If that's not what's going to happen, than what we'll have is just land grabbing and ISK farming. |

Atikali Havendoorr
HERBGROWERS
18
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:00:00 -
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So most of you agree that PC should be entitled to the top tier players only? And for the vast majority, there is instant battle... lame. The number of districts is laughably small. |

Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
103
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:01:00 -
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Absolute Idiom II wrote:Stepping on peoples toes is the entire point. There shouldn't be room for everyone to have a district; if there was there woudn't be much of a reason to attack.
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