I'll take any idiot with contact grenades over the enemy tool using the core flaylock any day of the week.

These things in my eyes shouldn't be in the game.

Please sign this or leave a like to show your support on removing all hand thrown detination upon impact grenades. By this I mean the Thukker and fused locus grenade.

(Also to anybody that thinks I'm trying to get likes, your wrong. I'd quite happily have my likes taken away from me.)

These things in my eyes shouldn't be in the game.

Please sign this or leave a like to show your support on removing all hand thrown detination upon impact grenades. By this I mean the Thukker and fused locus grenade.

(Also to anybody that thinks I'm trying to get likes, your wrong. I'd quite happily have my likes taken away from me.)

they only kill scrubs, the DPS is less than 400

Did the exact same thread maybe 2-3 months ago and it had a massive success. but those nades are still in the game.
Imo, they dont belong in Dust. Hell, they dont belong in any FPS as they encourage petty "aim at the ground" gameplay.

/signed

HTFU

Did the exact same thread maybe 2-3 months ago and it had a massive success. but those nades are still in the game.
Imo, they dont belong in Dust. Hell, they dont belong in any FPS as they encourage petty "aim at the ground" gameplay.

/signed

Why did it get moved?

Seriously...

Welcome to the junkyard. Currently CCP is moving any thead from general discussion, that threatens them, since general discussion is the most traficed forum section, here to the thread junkyard. Just had a thread abou the TAR moved over here myself.

So, *sound of many voices shouting at the same time* WELCOME!

Are you ******* serious? A thread with gameplay feedback/suggestions/requests was moved from general to the FEEDBACK/REQUEST FORUM, where it belongs, is a conspiracy to silence the thread? How stupid are you? If they wanted to suppress it like you describe they'd lock and/or delete it, they wouldn't simply PUT IT WHERE IT BELONGS.

It belongs where we originally put it. So that it can be discussed, not locked away in the dungeon. Do you even grasp the concept of "general discussion".

I do, and the OP is not it. The OP is very clearly gameplay feedback and a request. The post was not about discussing the mechanics, it was not about looking for what other people thought about it, it was him saying how he thinks it should be (feedback) and a way to get there (suggestion).

You say this is the junk heap? Those of us that actually give a ****, if we go to the forums at all (due to the overwhelming amount of stupid thst ALL forums contain), are here more than the other sub-boards.

Be GLAD the majority stick to general, since it keeps them for being mistaken for someone with a point, let alone one that should be listened to. Devs are right to not pay attention to it.

The fact that this was moved here and not just locked indicates clearly that they want actual, useful feedback, not just a bunch of Call of Halo rejects whinging.

Again, your post that i quoted is pure stupid. They didn't move it here to be lost, they movec it here to look for actual feedback. If they wanted to suppress it they'd have simply locked or deleted it, not put it in the CORRECT forum forwhat the post IS.

Dude, you are pure stupid. This forum section is damn near worthless concerning maters such as this. A petition needs high trafic to be effective. End of story.

The thread of mine, about the TAR nerf, that was also moved here, needs discussion, which requires a certain volume of trafic/participation that this section simply does not/cannot provide.

I enjoy the fused locus grenades no matter how many times I get hit with them. They are fun to use and require actually aiming your throw to make them work. My reason for keeping them in game is that if you hit something you weren't aiming at and kill yourself it is still your own fault for killing yourself. I am currently sitting on a pile of them and will continue to use them while I have them. Grenade bouquets for everyone.

I immediately propose a 1 week ban on anyone requesting a nerf or removal of a weapon/equipment/vehicle.

For F's sake if its something that is kicking your ass, use it and get good.

If its an exploit such as being paired with a modded controller there are exceptions to the rule, but proceed carefully.

That's technically not an exploit (it's not a bug, it's the RoF that was set), but otherwise, i agree entirely. Most of these whinges boil down to people that suck, can't/won't adapt, or both.

You wait till everyone is holding those things. You won't be telling people to adapt then.

Close this thread its silly if you get rid of contact nades might as well get rid of the MD and FP to make it fair. All three do the same crap.

I enjoy the fused locus grenades no matter how many times I get hit with them. They are fun to use and require actually aiming your throw to make them work. My reason for keeping them in game is that if you hit something you weren't aiming at and kill yourself it is still your own fault for killing yourself. I am currently sitting on a pile of them and will continue to use them while I have them. Grenade bouquets for everyone.

I support the petition. I noticed one thing, all the players that spammed the tactical assault rifle before the nerf are using contact grenades religiously.

Or they could be better balanced.

No, lets just remove them from the game entirely... and whine. A lot.

These abominations should not exist.

Why not?

As long as they are available through ISK, I think they should be here to stay. Hell, I'd go so far as to say that we should get Fused Flux Grenades too.

There at least needs to be an ISK equivalen

No, there definitely doesn't. They need to go.

Signed, just discontinue the production. Let those that have bought them already keep them.

And the MD and FP don't encourage that same type of play

MD and Flaylock pistol need to be added to this list. reward player aim, dont reward shooting at the feet of a person or in their vicinity and depending on splash in any form. i'm not saying remove them but lower the splash damage considerably.

AOE weapons be low ammo, low rof and low damage from splash as a rule just like the forge. want full damage? hit the actual person.

/signed

But the fused nades need to be replaced with another type of non contact nade that has no skill requirements.

As a heavy, I don't even like the sound of nades exploding on contact!

Why you hate heavies so much CCP?

This

I have used fused contact grenades and thukker contact grenades. The fused locus grenades maybe OP and probably need a price increase in aurum and maybe a nerf.

But the thukker contact grenades are fine. They are very expensive and require a lot of SP and HUGE amounts of skill or luck to use at ranges greater than 13m. They might need to be more expensive but they are not OP. They have a small blast radius and throw speed is slow enough that the GEX AR with 3 complex damage mods can do an equal amount of damage in the same amount of time (if all your bullets hit which can be solved by fixing the hit detection issues).

Edit: If the GEX fired as soon as someone threw a thukker contact grenade the GEX probably would do the same amount of damage as the thukker contact grenade once that grenade hits the ground 9m away from the player who threw the grenade. (A GEX with 3 complex damage mods, and I am guessing that the GEX would do the same amount of damage as the grenade in that situation). End of edit.

A GEX AR with 3 complex damage mods costs less than 25000 ISK does it not? (Thukker contact grenades cost about 25000 ISK if I remember correctly). An experienced person can dodge thukker contact grenades at ranges greater than 10m easily. Just keep your distance from the target. I have dodged 3 thukker grenades easily with militia gear at 6m. And the guy using them was getting a few kills and was probably an experienced player. But he still died easily.

Proto flux grenades do HUGE shield damage. Just like thukker does HUGE armor damage. the difference is that flux grenades help other players that are trying to kill tanks and other vehicles to a much greater effect than thukker grenades. Proto Flux also has a much larger range making it effective at much larger ranges like 30m. Proto Flux is also cheaper if I remember correctly. Heavies have large amounts of shields as well which one flux can destroy 600 shields while one thukker cant. You kill a heavy just as fast with Flux and a few bullets as you do with thukker grenades (your not going to die any slower against me if I am using flux grenades). And you can be just as deadly with basic flux grenades as you are with proto thukker grenades when your target is a heavy.

I do acknowledge that thukker grenades kill medium and scout suits with 1 grenade usually but your suits are faster and can easily dodge them at 10m if you time your jumps well enough. You can easily cook a flux grenade and make the flux detonate near your enemy easily before the fight even starts and then kill them 1 second later with any AR or flaylock or mass driver. (producing an effect very similar in level to thukker contact grenades). A basic flux and a advanced mass driver or basic flaylock pistol and basic flux or a basic HMG and basic flux all cost less than 1 thukker grenade purchased once and they cost less SP and require less skill to use usually.

Remote explosives are just as deadly as thukker grenades and basic remote explosives are cheaper and easier to use in almost every way. Basic manually detonated remote explosives are far more deadly against vehicles than thukker as well.

The thukker is fine the way it is. CCP if you change the thukker contact locus grenade then just increase the price in ISK. Don't change the thukker contact grenade's stats.

The fused locus grenade needs a nerf or a much larger cost in aurum.

/signed

Not the problem imo. thukker nades used with a speedy fit as a close range weapon fire cracker style is dumb. It's even worse if you need tons of SP and ISK to use them.

You mention mass driver and flux. Ok. But those you have in hands and use as a weapon. The impact nades can act as a desperate win button. Insta-use or close.

Same goes with remote explosives. You need to keep the remote in hand, making you vulnerable.

Also, if everything is better. Then why hold on to it ?

HTFU

You mention mass driver and flux. Ok. But those you have in hands and use as a weapon. The impact nades can act as a desperate win button. Insta-use or close.

Singed. Just don't burn em.