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Geirskoegul Soul-Strike 230	Posted - 2013.06.05 18:04:00 - [1] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: C Saunders wrote: These things in my eyes shouldn't be in the game. Please sign this or leave a like to show your support on removing all hand thrown detination upon impact grenades. By this I mean the Thukker and fused locus grenade. (Also to anybody that thinks I'm trying to get likes, your wrong. I'd quite happily have my likes taken away from me.) Did the exact same thread maybe 2-3 months ago and it had a massive success. but those nades are still in the game. Imo, they dont belong in Dust. Hell, they dont belong in any FPS as they encourage petty "aim at the ground" gameplay. /signed I'd agree if the default fuse time were lower. As it stands, the delay on current grenades feels excessive, by about 15%, so there's a very real place for the contact grenades. Right now, with the crazy long fuse, grenades seem most useful against those that aren't paying attention, are so bunched up in a group that they can't get away, or the grenade-as-you-die strategy to take out your killer trying to steamroll. I've been sorely tempted to get contact grenades simply because they take less than a month to go off, so if we're getting rid of them, let's make the default fuse shorter and make the animation delay before the cook timer starts shorter. Real grenades only have about 3-4 second fuse; the ones here seems to be 3-4s too, but the timer doesn't start until it hits the ground or you cook it (and as a result, there doesn't seem to be any relation between fuse times, especially since delay on a cook seems to start after the throw, while a non-cooked grenade doesn't seem to start until it hits the ground.)
Geirskoegul Soul-Strike 230	Posted - 2013.06.05 18:12:00 - [2] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: C Saunders wrote: Why did it get moved? Seriously... Welcome to the junkyard. Currently CCP is moving any thead from general discussion, that threatens them, since general discussion is the most traficed forum section, here to the thread junkyard. Just had a thread abou the TAR moved over here myself. So, sound of many voices shouting at the same time WELCOME! Are you ******* serious? A thread with gameplay feedback/suggestions/requests was moved from general to the FEEDBACK/REQUEST FORUM, where it belongs, is a conspiracy to silence the thread? How stupid are you? If they wanted to suppress it like you describe they'd lock and/or delete it, they wouldn't simply PUT IT WHERE IT BELONGS.
Geirskoegul Soul-Strike 230	Posted - 2013.06.05 18:58:00 - [3] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Geirskoegul wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: C Saunders wrote: Why did it get moved? Seriously... Welcome to the junkyard. Currently CCP is moving any thead from general discussion, that threatens them, since general discussion is the most traficed forum section, here to the thread junkyard. Just had a thread abou the TAR moved over here myself. So, sound of many voices shouting at the same time WELCOME! Are you ***** serious? A thread with gameplay feedback/suggestions/requests was moved from general to the FEEDBACK/REQUEST FORUM, where it belongs, is a conspiracy to silence the thread? How stupid are you? If they wanted to suppress it like you describe they'd lock and/or delete it, they wouldn't simply PUT IT WHERE IT BELONGS. It belongs where we originally put it. So that it can be discussed, not locked away in the dungeon. Do you even grasp the concept of "general discussion". I do, and the OP is not it. The OP is very clearly gameplay feedback and a request. The post was not about discussing the mechanics, it was not about looking for what other people thought about it, it was him saying how he thinks it should be (feedback) and a way to get there (suggestion). You say this is the junk heap? Those of us that actually give a **, if we go to the forums at all (due to the overwhelming amount of stupid thst ALL forums contain), are here more than the other sub-boards. Be GLAD the majority stick to general, since it keeps them for being mistaken for someone with a point, let alone one that should be listened to. Devs are right to not pay attention to it. The fact that this was moved here and not just locked indicates clearly that they want actual, useful feedback, not just a bunch of Call of Halo rejects whinging. Again, your post that i quoted is pure stupid. They didn't move it here to be lost, they movec it here to look for actual feedback. If they wanted to suppress it they'd have simply locked or deleted it, not put it in the CORRECT forum forwhat the post IS.
Geirskoegul Soul-Strike 234	Posted - 2013.06.06 15:32:00 - [4] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Dude, you are pure stupid. This forum section is damn near worthless concerning maters such as this. A petition needs high trafic to be effective. End of story. The thread of mine, about the TAR nerf, that was also moved here, needs discussion, which requires a certain volume of trafic/participation that this section simply does not/cannot provide. Popular vote is how you ruin games, not how you improve them, just look at the original planetside (and most SOE games). What's needed isn't a volume of discussion, but CONSTRUCTIVE discussion. When a post actually has merit, there's generally quite a bit of discussion on this board. When it doesn't, it's either ignored, ridiculed, or ridiculed and then ignored. This is a good thing, since it results in greater SNR. As to the TAR, all it needs is some kickback between shots and to be in the sniper progression where it belongs, instead of the AR progression. Otherwise, the weapon is just fine.
Geirskoegul Soul-Strike 234	Posted - 2013.06.06 16:11:00 - [5] - Quote Draco Cerberus wrote: I enjoy the fused locus grenades no matter how many times I get hit with them. They are fun to use and require actually aiming your throw to make them work. My reason for keeping them in game is that if you hit something you weren't aiming at and kill yourself it is still your own fault for killing yourself. I am currently sitting on a pile of them and will continue to use them while I have them. Grenade bouquets for everyone. For once something we can agree on Though i do wish grenade throws felt more natural / predictable; it never feels like the throw goes in the way it seems like it should have.
Geirskoegul Soul-Strike 234	Posted - 2013.06.06 20:30:00 - [6] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: I immediately propose a 1 week ban on anyone requesting a nerf or removal of a weapon/equipment/vehicle. For F's sake if its something that is kicking your ass, use it and get good. If its an exploit such as being paired with a modded controller there are exceptions to the rule, but proceed carefully. That's technically not an exploit (it's not a bug, it's the RoF that was set), but otherwise, i agree entirely. Most of these whinges boil down to people that suck, can't/won't adapt, or both.

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