DUST Search - DUST514 Fanboys blind or just stupid?

Garrett Blacknova wrote:

Elrick Mercer wrote:

Garrett Blacknova wrote:

grreen mctree wrote:

Laughing at fanboys is fun, problem?

Under. 5k. players. online.

I love how people quote this like it actually means anything.

Lets pretend, just for a minute, that every single one of those players is online for a full 2 hours.
Now lets also pretend, to make your argument look REALLY good, that there's no fluctuation in the playerbase from day to day.

This means you only multiply the current number of active players by 12, giving a total playerbase of 60,000.

Obviously, this is a gross under-estimate because the assumptions I'm making are provably false for the majority of DUST players. 200,000 active players wouldn't be an unreasonable estimate, although it might be on the high side.

BF3 on the PS3 alone averages that and then some during prime time I believe 73,000 were on last I checked. You are completely reaching for excuses...

So because an actual AAA title that's been out for long enough to have built up its sales numbers AND is a continuation of an already-established franchise can do it, a free-to-play new arrival with minimal advertising should too?

Pretty sure that for early days on an unproven product, DUST is doing just fine.

I'm not arguing that DUST is perfect, I'm not even arguing that it's ready for release (I don't think it is). I'm just saying that being consistently above 3000 simultaneous players most days is actually not as bad as people are trying to make it sound.

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Phoenix Arakyd Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 91	Posted - 2013.05.15 05:58:00 - [31] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/dust-514/user-reviews?dist=neutral This game has problems... Lots and lots of problems. It's ok to believe in the idea and potential of what something can be. I don't quiet understand how people can be so misguided and just plain blind in their user reviews of DUST. Uprising is a visual improvement but that's all it really is. This game currently is on the boarder between being just a bad game and mediocre. this.
Phoenix Arakyd Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 91	Posted - 2013.05.15 06:00:00 - [32] - Quote Djheffer wrote: xprotoman23 wrote: http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/dust-514/user-reviews?dist=neutral This game has problems... Lots and lots of problems. It's ok to believe in the idea and potential of what something can be. I don't quiet understand how people can be so misguided and just plain blind in their user reviews of DUST. Uprising is a visual improvement but that's all it really is. This game currently is on the boarder between being just a bad game and mediocre. Blind or stupid? Read your own link. I think your mixing up who is blind and stupid ^_^ Every game has glitches, but its still fun and thats why you even bother complaining. lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote: The **** riding is unreal. /facepalm. Why would you even post this lol. Its not just glitches. Its horrible aiming. its terrible unbalance. Its poor mechanics all around. Dust has potential, but again and again CCP sabotages its own project.
Full Metal Kitten Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 285	Posted - 2013.05.15 06:15:00 - [33] - Quote Thank yous all around to proto, green, and the rest of the try hards for your your biting analysis and armchair quarterbacking. We're all sure you could do better than CCP. Until that happens, please don't stop giving your all to the betterment of our fine community. We salute you! o7
Phoenix Arakyd Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 92	Posted - 2013.05.15 06:32:00 - [34] - Quote Full Metal Kitten wrote: Thank yous all around to proto, green, and the rest of the try hards for your your biting analysis and armchair quarterbacking. We're all sure you could do better than CCP. Until that happens, please don't stop giving your all to the betterment of our fine community. We salute you! o7 Being a bunch of sycophant yes men will not improve the game.
Elrick Mercer Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 23	Posted - 2013.05.15 06:33:00 - [35] - Quote Victin Ashis wrote: grreen mctree wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: grreen mctree wrote: Laughing at fanboys is fun, problem? Under. 5k. players. online. And when that number goes up, you'll go see if IGN gave the game a bad review and post that all over these forums. And if neither of those pan out, you'll go find something else. It's not even about the game. It's about your inferiority complex. Must hurt for the thing you're best at in life to be gaming. Don't worry, they have counselors for that. Cheers for your enlightening analysis. I think the game is poo, i say the game is poo and that offends you? strange Under. 5k. players. online. and virtually no advertising done for the game, your point? No advertising? It's plastered all over the PSN store, IGN, PSNblog, youtube and a bunch of other websites. Take the blinders off your eyes and you might see that. All the people that gave this game a 10 are going off of it's potential. A potential that has yet to be realized. Fanboys are trying there best to save the game from getting bad scores or from being seen negatively by the public the game is bad plain and simple. Besides a 10 would mean it's perfect and you and anyone else who would rate Dust a ******* 10 are lying to yourselves so you can feel better about Dust. While I would realistically rate this game a 6 to 7 maybe 7.5 on a good day it's core shooter mechanics are not tight at all it's a mess, graphics improved while I'm not looking for BF3 graphics this game is as poor on graphics quality as MOH:WF, frame rate never goes over 15, lag, poor hit detection. Maps are to big for player count, maps are to big for the current weapon ranges, things don't render properly, SP takes to long to accumulate to earn better gear, game modes are uninspired and not original Skirmish is basically BF conquest, no true weapon variety all weapons with in a certain class all look the same but they do different things... Instead of making an AR with single shot, semi auto, and full auto variants wouldn't it have been easier to make one gun with a select fire switch? They then could've focused on actually making more weapons different designs. Lack of weapon customization! This is a big one not only does my weapon look exactly like the guys standing next to me I can't make it my own. Fitting the way I want no I'll have to wait 6 months to a year for that and this game has been in beta for 1 year but in development way longer than that things like that should be here already. Dust has promise but it's a half baked FPS with no soul. If CCP would've tried to actually develop the game before putting it in beta it would probably be in a much better place right now! The only thing unique Dust offers is PC but who wants to fight over planets if the core of the game is sloppy?!
Full Metal Kitten Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 287	Posted - 2013.05.15 06:35:00 - [36] - Quote Phoenix Arakyd wrote: Being a bunch of sycophant yes men will not improve the game. Neither will being a douchebag. But I'm sure you've got it on lock.
Phoenix Arakyd Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 92	Posted - 2013.05.15 06:44:00 - [37] - Quote Full Metal Kitten wrote: Phoenix Arakyd wrote: Being a bunch of sycophant yes men will not improve the game. Neither will being a douchebag. But I'm sure you've got it on lock. Whats wrong with bring a dbag? I embrace it. Dbags rule the world.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2972	Posted - 2013.05.15 06:55:00 - [38] - Quote grreen mctree wrote: Laughing at fanboys is fun, problem? Under. 5k. players. online. I love how people quote this like it actually means anything. Lets pretend, just for a minute, that every single one of those players is online for a full 2 hours. Now lets also pretend, to make your argument look REALLY good, that there's no fluctuation in the playerbase from day to day. This means you only multiply the current number of active players by 12, giving a total playerbase of 60,000. Obviously, this is a gross under-estimate because the assumptions I'm making are provably false for the majority of DUST players. 200,000 active players wouldn't be an unreasonable estimate, although it might be on the high side.
lllIIIlI IIIlIl Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 29	Posted - 2013.05.15 06:57:00 - [39] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: grreen mctree wrote: Laughing at fanboys is fun, problem? Under. 5k. players. online. 200,000 active players wouldn't be an unreasonable estimate, although it might be on the high side. Yes, it is an unreasonable estimate.
Elrick Mercer Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 24	Posted - 2013.05.15 06:59:00 - [40] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: grreen mctree wrote: Laughing at fanboys is fun, problem? Under. 5k. players. online. I love how people quote this like it actually means anything. Lets pretend, just for a minute, that every single one of those players is online for a full 2 hours. Now lets also pretend, to make your argument look REALLY good, that there's no fluctuation in the playerbase from day to day. This means you only multiply the current number of active players by 12, giving a total playerbase of 60,000. Obviously, this is a gross under-estimate because the assumptions I'm making are provably false for the majority of DUST players. 200,000 active players wouldn't be an unreasonable estimate, although it might be on the high side. BF3 on the PS3 alone averages that and then some during prime time I believe 73,000 were on last I checked. You are completely reaching for excuses...

Full Metal Kitten Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 291	Posted - 2013.05.15 07:01:00 - [41] - Quote Phoenix Arakyd wrote: Whats wrong with bring a dbag? I embrace it. Dbags rule the world. Your kingdom for a key that unlock's mommy's basement! What sites you will see!
Djheffer O.Q.R.D. 3	Posted - 2013.05.15 07:02:00 - [42] - Quote Phoenix Arakyd wrote: Full Metal Kitten wrote: Phoenix Arakyd wrote: Being a bunch of sycophant yes men will not improve the game. Neither will being a douchebag. But I'm sure you've got it on lock. Whats wrong with bring a dbag? I embrace it. Dbags rule the world. So your a globally dominant dbag that dosn't improve video games... lololol
Djheffer O.Q.R.D. 3	Posted - 2013.05.15 07:07:00 - [43] - Quote grreen mctree wrote: Under 5k players online, that says it all. slurpity slurpity slurp......... take it out ya mouth fanboys Don't talk while your mouth is full.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2973	Posted - 2013.05.15 07:17:00 - [44] - Quote Elrick Mercer wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: grreen mctree wrote: Laughing at fanboys is fun, problem? Under. 5k. players. online. I love how people quote this like it actually means anything. Lets pretend, just for a minute, that every single one of those players is online for a full 2 hours. Now lets also pretend, to make your argument look REALLY good, that there's no fluctuation in the playerbase from day to day. This means you only multiply the current number of active players by 12, giving a total playerbase of 60,000. Obviously, this is a gross under-estimate because the assumptions I'm making are provably false for the majority of DUST players. 200,000 active players wouldn't be an unreasonable estimate, although it might be on the high side. BF3 on the PS3 alone averages that and then some during prime time I believe 73,000 were on last I checked. You are completely reaching for excuses... So because an actual AAA title that's been out for long enough to have built up its sales numbers AND is a continuation of an already-established franchise can do it, a free-to-play new arrival with minimal advertising should too? Pretty sure that for early days on an unproven product, DUST is doing just fine. I'm not arguing that DUST is perfect, I'm not even arguing that it's ready for release (I don't think it is). I'm just saying that being consistently above 3000 simultaneous players most days is actually not as bad as people are trying to make it sound.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2973	Posted - 2013.05.15 07:18:00 - [45] - Quote lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: grreen mctree wrote: Laughing at fanboys is fun, problem? Under. 5k. players. online. 200,000 active players wouldn't be an unreasonable estimate, although it might be on the high side. Yes, it is an unreasonable estimate. I've shown you numbers that say it's not. What's your source?
lllIIIlI IIIlIl Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 29	Posted - 2013.05.15 07:48:00 - [46] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: grreen mctree wrote: Laughing at fanboys is fun, problem? Under. 5k. players. online. 200,000 active players wouldn't be an unreasonable estimate, although it might be on the high side. Yes, it is an unreasonable estimate. I've shown you numbers that say it's not. What's your source? You took the 5k players and then made up other numbers. According to my sources there are under 20,000 players who actively play the game.
Elrick Mercer Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 25	Posted - 2013.05.15 07:56:00 - [47] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Elrick Mercer wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: grreen mctree wrote: Laughing at fanboys is fun, problem? Under. 5k. players. online. I love how people quote this like it actually means anything. Lets pretend, just for a minute, that every single one of those players is online for a full 2 hours. Now lets also pretend, to make your argument look REALLY good, that there's no fluctuation in the playerbase from day to day. This means you only multiply the current number of active players by 12, giving a total playerbase of 60,000. Obviously, this is a gross under-estimate because the assumptions I'm making are provably false for the majority of DUST players. 200,000 active players wouldn't be an unreasonable estimate, although it might be on the high side. BF3 on the PS3 alone averages that and then some during prime time I believe 73,000 were on last I checked. You are completely reaching for excuses... So because an actual AAA title that's been out for long enough to have built up its sales numbers AND is a continuation of an already-established franchise can do it, a free-to-play new arrival with minimal advertising should too? Pretty sure that for early days on an unproven product, DUST is doing just fine. I'm not arguing that DUST is perfect, I'm not even arguing that it's ready for release (I don't think it is). I'm just saying that being consistently above 3000 simultaneous players most days is actually not as bad as people are trying to make it sound. Dust is being advertised as a AAA title! With all of the beta invites that went out with all of the youtube ads, IGN ads, and so on you would think that Dust would be averaging well over 3,000! There was a point when at least 10,000 beta testers were on. It's also not hard for word to get around about this new F2P shooter on the PSN. I have plenty of friends who tried it and didn't like it. Even more friends that I would rather shoot in the foot than be responsible for having them try Dust out.
Beast Beastlington Bragian Order Amarr Empire 266	Posted - 2013.05.15 08:13:00 - [48] - Quote I noticed those reviews last night. There's something just a teeny bit suspicious about them. Almost all of the "reviewers" have one user review. Smells like a bunch of fake accounts to me. The same thing the devs of the new star trek game did before media reviews hit. If that's the case and CCP are involved, that'sa while new level of pathetic.
Ninjanomyx Imperfects Negative-Feedback 61	Posted - 2013.05.15 08:19:00 - [49] - Quote Advertisements: Handed out BETA Keys Merc Pack Access 1/2 Price Merc Pack Access Word of Mouth + Game Share PS Home Space & Event Rewards Recruitment Code Incentive (Still with no Reward for Recruiters.....) PS3 Slim Bundle w/ Uncharted 3 & DUST 514 AUR + Booster + Gurista Saga LAV Full Free Access Open BETA (PS Store Front Page Advertisement + Video) IGN including LiveStream (Both IGN & Community Driven) FREE Starter Pack w/ PS Plus METACRITIC Fanboy Swarm (Most recent) Also......could've sworn I saw a Commercial on TV once (Maybe Spike TV???) Plenty of Advertisements..........jus sayin'. Guess ya'll don't need more than a Nip-Slip to "HTFU" :P
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2973	Posted - 2013.05.15 08:20:00 - [50] - Quote lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: grreen mctree wrote: Laughing at fanboys is fun, problem? Under. 5k. players. online. 200,000 active players wouldn't be an unreasonable estimate, although it might be on the high side. Yes, it is an unreasonable estimate. I've shown you numbers that say it's not. What's your source? You took the 5k players and then made up other numbers. According to my sources there are under 20,000 players who actively play the game. I showed numbers that are publicly available, and used logic and working that can be seen and demonstrated as logical. What are your "sources" basing their claims on? What ARE your "sources"? Using the numbers that are publicly available, your 20,000 figure doesn't make any rational sense. None at all. So either share a valid source for your information, or stop trying to spread blatant lies.

Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2973	Posted - 2013.05.15 08:23:00 - [51] - Quote Elrick Mercer wrote: Dust is being advertised as a AAA title! It's being advertised as AAA. Doesn't mean it's actually on that level yet. That claim is why I referred to BF3 as an "ACTUAL" AAA title, emphasising that while CCP make that claim, it isn't (yet) true.
NeoWraith Acedia Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 449	Posted - 2013.05.15 08:32:00 - [52] - Quote 10s? lol. Maybe a 7 or 8, but anyone who says 10 is lying. Is it fun? Every now and then, but it is by no means perfect.
lllIIIlI IIIlIl Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 29	Posted - 2013.05.15 08:34:00 - [53] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: I showed numbers that are publicly available, and used logic and working that can be seen and demonstrated as logical. What are your "sources" basing their claims on? What ARE your "sources"? Using the numbers that are publicly available, your 20,000 figure doesn't make any rational sense. None at all. So either share a valid source for your information, or stop trying to spread blatant lies. wat. You take the 5k number, and based on your general idea of how long people play, you get 60,000. Which is quite a bit high in my opinion but it still makes sense. Then from out of nowhere you say all that is wrong and pull 200,000 out of your ass. Great logical claims right there. I'm just doing the exact same thing you are lol.
Panther Alpha WarRavens 194	Posted - 2013.05.15 08:35:00 - [54] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/dust-514/user-reviews?dist=neutral This game has problems... Lots and lots of problems. It's ok to believe in the idea and potential of what something can be. I don't quiet understand how people can be so misguided and just plain blind in their user reviews of DUST. Uprising is a visual improvement but that's all it really is. This game currently is on the boarder between being just a bad game and mediocre. Everyone is allow to have their own opinion, some people hates Dust 514, other people love Dust 514. The fact that people that have been playing the game for long time, is giving the game POSITIVE reviews, shows that only the HATERS are loud, every one else is just enjoying the game. Some of you have been trying so hard, to make this game what YOU THINK is right, that you have lost perspective.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2975	Posted - 2013.05.15 08:43:00 - [55] - Quote lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: I showed numbers that are publicly available, and used logic and working that can be seen and demonstrated as logical. What are your "sources" basing their claims on? What ARE your "sources"? Using the numbers that are publicly available, your 20,000 figure doesn't make any rational sense. None at all. So either share a valid source for your information, or stop trying to spread blatant lies. wat. You take the 5k number, and based on your general idea of how long people play, you get 60,000. Which is quite a bit high in my opinion but it still makes sense. Then from out of nowhere you say all that is wrong and pull 200,000 out of your ass. Great logical claims right there. I'm just doing the exact same thing you are lol. Assuming people are averaging 2 hours of playtime every day is a HUGE overestimation for the average player. Assuming that there are no players who play less often than every day is an even more ridiculous assumption. Getting 60,000 from 5000 simultaneous players is a REALLY low measure. Maybe you need to actually go back and read my initial post. Since you obviously didn't, because I already explained how I got my numbers.
Deskalkulos Ildigan CrimeWave Syndicate 124	Posted - 2013.05.15 08:48:00 - [56] - Quote Beast Beastlington wrote: I noticed those reviews last night. There's something just a teeny bit suspicious about them. Almost all of the "reviewers" have one user review. Smells like a bunch of fake accounts to me. The same thing the devs of the new star trek game did before media reviews hit. If that's the case and CCP are involved, that'sa while new level of pathetic. Ooor they are genuine Fanboys who like the game enough to create an account on metacritic just for the sole purpose of voting this game up. (Nothing i personally would do, because i hope that this site just cease to exist, but hey, if it makes them feel good why shouldn't they state their personal opinion on said game? i know that i have done my share of giving in to fanboyism on one or two occasions).
Salazar Skye-fire Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 106	Posted - 2013.05.15 08:50:00 - [57] - Quote who takes metacritic seriously everyone knows they sleep with their publishers who they review for as well as the devs make fake accounts to boost up bad games we have seen that alot already with many of the 2013 games so far. a game does not have to be amazing and perfect to be great off the bat some take time to become great.
lowratehitman Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 561	Posted - 2013.05.15 08:51:00 - [58] - Quote What has me cussing almost every match is how insted of getting caught or hung up on a blade of grass, now it is getting hung up on smooth walls...not sure what gives. I think that perhaps time was invested to quiet the criers could have been used to smooth the graphics a bit. overall, I feel as if this is the same game I was playing 9 month ago just packaged diff...... a bunch of people on 1 knee with tactical AR aiming down a scope worring about kills, and hoping to find that unlucky person that is trying to strafe but is getting hung up on a blade of grass.
Panther Alpha WarRavens 196	Posted - 2013.05.15 08:52:00 - [59] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: I showed numbers that are publicly available, and used logic and working that can be seen and demonstrated as logical. What are your "sources" basing their claims on? What ARE your "sources"? Using the numbers that are publicly available, your 20,000 figure doesn't make any rational sense. None at all. So either share a valid source for your information, or stop trying to spread blatant lies. wat. You take the 5k number, and based on your general idea of how long people play, you get 60,000. Which is quite a bit high in my opinion but it still makes sense. Then from out of nowhere you say all that is wrong and pull 200,000 out of your ass. Great logical claims right there. I'm just doing the exact same thing you are lol. Assuming people are averaging 2 hours of playtime every day is a HUGE overestimation for the average player. Assuming that there are no players who play less often than every day is an even more ridiculous assumption. Getting 60,000 from 5000 simultaneous players is a REALLY low measure. Maybe you need to actually go back and read my initial post. Since you obviously didn't, because I already explained how I got my numbers. You like stats huh ? I give you some ; Counter Strike : Global Offensive: 7,172 Currently online Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Multiplayer: 5,723 Currently online Don't bee such a troll.... please.
ALM1GHTY B44L R00 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 48	Posted - 2013.05.15 08:56:00 - [60] - Quote lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: grreen mctree wrote: Laughing at fanboys is fun, problem? Under. 5k. players. online. 200,000 active players wouldn't be an unreasonable estimate, although it might be on the high side. Yes, it is an unreasonable estimate. I've shown you numbers that say it's not. What's your source? You took the 5k players and then made up other numbers. According to my sources there are under 20,000 players who actively play the game. That's clearly way off. I've yet to see less than 3000 players online at any time. The average daily play time per player would have to be over 4 hours to even get below 20,000 unique players PER DAY.



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