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Posted - 2013.05.15 08:35:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/dust-514/user-reviews?dist=neutral
This game has problems... Lots and lots of problems. It's ok to believe in the idea and potential of what something can be. I don't quiet understand how people can be so misguided and just plain blind in their user reviews of DUST. Uprising is a visual improvement but that's all it really is. This game currently is on the boarder between being just a bad game and mediocre.
Everyone is allow to have their own opinion, some people hates Dust 514, other people love Dust 514. The fact that people that have been playing the game for long time, is giving the game POSITIVE reviews, shows that only the HATERS are loud, every one else is just enjoying the game.
Some of you have been trying so hard, to make this game what YOU THINK is right, that you have lost perspective. |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 08:52:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote: I showed numbers that are publicly available, and used logic and working that can be seen and demonstrated as logical.
What are your "sources" basing their claims on?
What ARE your "sources"?
Using the numbers that are publicly available, your 20,000 figure doesn't make any rational sense. None at all. So either share a valid source for your information, or stop trying to spread blatant lies.
wat. You take the 5k number, and based on your general idea of how long people play, you get 60,000. Which is quite a bit high in my opinion but it still makes sense. Then from out of nowhere you say all that is wrong and pull 200,000 out of your ass. Great logical claims right there. I'm just doing the exact same thing you are lol. Assuming people are averaging 2 hours of playtime every day is a HUGE overestimation for the average player. Assuming that there are no players who play less often than every day is an even more ridiculous assumption. Getting 60,000 from 5000 simultaneous players is a REALLY low measure. Maybe you need to actually go back and read my initial post. Since you obviously didn't, because I already explained how I got my numbers.
You like stats huh ? I give you some ;
Counter Strike : Global Offensive: 7,172 Currently online
Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Multiplayer: 5,723 Currently online
Don't bee such a troll.... please. |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 09:00:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote: I showed numbers that are publicly available, and used logic and working that can be seen and demonstrated as logical.
What are your "sources" basing their claims on?
What ARE your "sources"?
Using the numbers that are publicly available, your 20,000 figure doesn't make any rational sense. None at all. So either share a valid source for your information, or stop trying to spread blatant lies.
wat. You take the 5k number, and based on your general idea of how long people play, you get 60,000. Which is quite a bit high in my opinion but it still makes sense. Then from out of nowhere you say all that is wrong and pull 200,000 out of your ass. Great logical claims right there. I'm just doing the exact same thing you are lol. Assuming people are averaging 2 hours of playtime every day is a HUGE overestimation for the average player. Assuming that there are no players who play less often than every day is an even more ridiculous assumption. Getting 60,000 from 5000 simultaneous players is a REALLY low measure. Maybe you need to actually go back and read my initial post. Since you obviously didn't, because I already explained how I got my numbers. You like stats huh ? I give you some ; Counter Strike : Global Offensive: 7,172 Currently online Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Multiplayer: 5,723 Currently online Don't bee such a troll.... please.
Ohhh, and by the way, the source of this stats is Steam Stats page. Which means that they are PC numbers, that are always higher than consoles, specially this PS3.
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Posted - 2013.05.15 09:06:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:You like stats huh ? I give you some ;
Counter Strike : Global Offensive: 7,172 Currently online
Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Multiplayer: 5,723 Currently online
Don't bee such a troll.... please. So you've provided numbers for two major and well-established game brands that have been around for years, and the numbers on those games don't significantly outstrip the numbers on DUST. Thanks for supporting my argument with hard numbers on some games that should reasonably be expected to have MUCH larger and more acitve playerbases than a game like DUST, and seem not to be as far ahead as I would have expected them to. And this isn't me being a troll. Pointing out that you spelt "be" wrong and a "bee" is a flying insect would be trolling. Arguing in a thread about a videogame's chances of success and using publicly available numbers, logic and basic knowledge of maths is called "discussion".
Like i already say... those are Steam Stats of players currently playing that games in PC, stats will be much lower in Consoles. |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 09:17:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:You like stats huh ? I give you some ;
Counter Strike : Global Offensive: 7,172 Currently online
Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Multiplayer: 5,723 Currently online
Don't bee such a troll.... please. So you've provided numbers for two major and well-established game brands that have been around for years, and the numbers on those games don't significantly outstrip the numbers on DUST. Thanks for supporting my argument with hard numbers on some games that should reasonably be expected to have MUCH larger and more acitve playerbases than a game like DUST, and seem not to be as far ahead as I would have expected them to. And this isn't me being a troll. Pointing out that you spelt "be" wrong and a "bee" is a flying insect would be trolling. Arguing in a thread about a videogame's chances of success and using publicly available numbers, logic and basic knowledge of maths is called "discussion". Like i already say... those are Steam Stats of players currently playing that games in PC, stats will be much lower in Consoles. You never compared sales figures huh? First week of release Black Ops 2 sold 4.61 million copies, the PC version sold just shy of 401k
And Dust 514 sold.... oh.... hold on... is Free to Play.
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Posted - 2013.05.15 09:25:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Ohhh, and by the way, the source of this stats is Steam Stats page. Which means that they are PC numbers, that are always higher than consoles, specially this PS3. Pretty sure player numbers in the PS3 version of DUST are higher than on PC (sorry, had to be said) Well played.
Well played ? How so ? Dust 514 is a Free to Play, Playstation 3 exclusive.... |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 09:34:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:You like stats huh ? I give you some ;
Counter Strike : Global Offensive: 7,172 Currently online
Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Multiplayer: 5,723 Currently online
Don't bee such a troll.... please. So you've provided numbers for two major and well-established game brands that have been around for years, and the numbers on those games don't significantly outstrip the numbers on DUST. Thanks for supporting my argument with hard numbers on some games that should reasonably be expected to have MUCH larger and more acitve playerbases than a game like DUST, and seem not to be as far ahead as I would have expected them to. And this isn't me being a troll. Pointing out that you spelt "be" wrong and a "bee" is a flying insect would be trolling. Arguing in a thread about a videogame's chances of success and using publicly available numbers, logic and basic knowledge of maths is called "discussion". Oi, you two in the pissing contest over numbers Its the middle of the frakking night, compare the number during peak hours
Is morning where i live... You know, is more places in the world, than just the USA. |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 09:41:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:You like stats huh ? I give you some ;
Counter Strike : Global Offensive: 7,172 Currently online
Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Multiplayer: 5,723 Currently online
Don't bee such a troll.... please. So you've provided numbers for two major and well-established game brands that have been around for years, and the numbers on those games don't significantly outstrip the numbers on DUST. Thanks for supporting my argument with hard numbers on some games that should reasonably be expected to have MUCH larger and more acitve playerbases than a game like DUST, and seem not to be as far ahead as I would have expected them to. And this isn't me being a troll. Pointing out that you spelt "be" wrong and a "bee" is a flying insect would be trolling. Arguing in a thread about a videogame's chances of success and using publicly available numbers, logic and basic knowledge of maths is called "discussion". Oi, you two in the pissing contest over numbers Its the middle of the frakking night, compare the number during peak hours Is morning where i live... You know, is more places in the world, than just the USA. Yes but the US also has a massive population with a high concentration of gamers, remember there are US cities with populations greater than entire european countries
I think you just shoot your self in the food.... It is allot more US people playing Dust 514, than any other place. So in PEAK time, the numbers will be higher for Dust. |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 09:59:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Explain how what I said undermined my argument, of course the numbers will be higher for Dust during peak hours but they will also be higher for the other games and from that you can get a better reading of the active player base Do you just not understand how math works or are you just typing whatever to be contrary?
I just saying, that the numbers will be very similar to what they are right now ( Just Higher ). In fact i'm pretty sure, that more EU people plays CoD or CS, than they do Dust 514 right now. |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:09:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Explain how what I said undermined my argument, of course the numbers will be higher for Dust during peak hours but they will also be higher for the other games and from that you can get a better reading of the active player base Do you just not understand how math works or are you just typing whatever to be contrary? I just saying, that the numbers will be very similar to what they are right now ( Just Higher ). In fact i'm pretty sure, that more EU people plays CoD or CS, than they do Dust 514 right now. Now you shot yourself in the foot, first you site numbers of other games current active players and use those to say that Dust is keeping even but only lagging behind a bit, now you say that you know many more people play these others series Never mind that you used the PC figures when this is a console game, actually yes I do since when I cited actual console sales numbers you went to go insulting me just for the country I happen to live in I would say dont quit your dayjob but I wonder if anyone would employ a nearly brain dead liability such as yourself
Insult you ? how ?
Just saying.... again... That the current Dust 514 player count, is NOT as bad, as you HARDCORE HATERS are trying to make it sound. |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:17:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Explain how what I said undermined my argument, of course the numbers will be higher for Dust during peak hours but they will also be higher for the other games and from that you can get a better reading of the active player base Do you just not understand how math works or are you just typing whatever to be contrary? I just saying, that the numbers will be very similar to what they are right now ( Just Higher ). In fact i'm pretty sure, that more EU people plays CoD or CS, than they do Dust 514 right now. Now you shot yourself in the foot, first you site numbers of other games current active players and use those to say that Dust is keeping even but only lagging behind a bit, now you say that you know many more people play these others series Never mind that you used the PC figures when this is a console game, actually yes I do since when I cited actual console sales numbers you went to go insulting me just for the country I happen to live in I would say dont quit your dayjob but I wonder if anyone would employ a nearly brain dead liability such as yourself Insult you ? how ? Just saying.... again... That the current Dust 514 player count, is NOT as bad, as you HARDCORE HATERS are trying to make it sound. Im not hating Im stating facts, that compared to the competition the numbers are extremely bad and aside from the die hard CCP fans the game is getting bad word of mouth due to the poor gameplay and skilling mechanics
Seriously dude.... What competition you talking about ? how many Free to Play games are in the PS3 ? |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:21:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:I knew that wws going to happen! lol the fanboys always jump to pump up thier game. it happens with every game, not just dust. but some gave it 10 tho. 10! hahahahaha!! oh my side hurts.
You welcome to do you do you own review if you think is unfair... that is why it is call " Users Review " |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:27:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:You really do flail and grasp and whatever straws you can huh, you were the first one to compare the game to other shooters If you dont like someone bringing in real numbers and common sense then you shouldnt have done that in the first place
What you what me to compare Dust 514 with ? A racing game ? |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:32:00 -
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Otoky wrote:Kyle Drysden wrote:I'll never understand this phenomenon. You know, the one where people play a game they despise and make the game's demise their ultimate goal. I've played so many games where a group of people fought so hard to destroy the game and run it to the ground. Face of Mankind comes to mind. A small group of players would murder new players and tell them, "Lawl, FOM's dread, you need to uninstall it. Trust us." Hell, there was even a GM who assisted in this propaganda. If you hate the game that much, why play? It's like some kind of video game terrorism.
You're seriously trying to tell me that people get a kick out of running someone's creation to the ground? In Face of Mankind's case, it actually worked. TWICE! It has recently been taken over by another company and a Kickstarter has been made to "Re-release" the game for a third time!
You have problems and gripes with the game. Great! You're entitled to that. Just like people are entitled to enjoy the game. Maybe instead of calling them blind sheep and fanboys, you can say, "Well, I for one certainly don't see how they can rate it a 10, but whatever..." But no, it's always a debate as to why the game sucks and why people should also agree that it sucks. Though I would imagine that going with the former would put a damper on your internet egos.
It's simple. CCP is not forcing you to play. They aren't even forcing you to pay! If you hate the game so much, then quit. You lose absolutely nothing! And if you did put money down on AUR and still hate the game but are bitter about it, then that's your doing. CCP did not force you to buy that AUR. Hell, the game just officially got released yesterday, and to be quite honest, rather you love it or hate it, spending money on AUR while the game was in BETA was a gamble.
Does the game need work? Yes, it needs work like Lady Gaga needs a nose job. Does the game have potential? Yes, it indeed does. Will it meet said potential? Well, that's yet to be seen.
The truth of the matter is, not a single one of us know where Dust 514 is going to go. I will critique the game when and where critiquing is due, but I will stick with it and see where this thing goes. There may come a point when I feel the game is not what I anticipated it to be. If that day comes, I will walk away. It will be removed from my PS3. I don't understand why this is so hard for you guys to comprehend. Nothing more to say. +1
Anyway... i just going to re-quote this again, because i like it so much...i have enough dealing with you haters.
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:37:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Delta 749 wrote:You really do flail and grasp and whatever straws you can huh, you were the first one to compare the game to other shooters If you dont like someone bringing in real numbers and common sense then you shouldnt have done that in the first place What you want me to compare Dust 514 with ? A racing game ? You are a complete and total idiot, for the sake of the species dont breed
So now you insulting me ? ... A bit double standards are you ? anyway... have fun hating the game, that you play every day. |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 14:28:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:People are giving this 10/10 and saying it has potential.
Paradox much? Fanboys much? I really am looking forward to the slating I hope Dust gets from the media instead of fanboys. It's not that I want Dust to fail, I'd like CCP to realise, and all the fanboys to realise, where we're at.
Really ? and what you thing CCP is going to do ? Go back to Beta testing, AFTER the game have already been release ?
Do you guys even realize what you doing ? |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 14:40:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Panther, they could have fixed things in Beta. They didn't, and they still don't know what they're doing regarding balancing, there's no PvE, no market. So how is it 10/10 fanboy war raven scrub?
Again i will ask ... what you propose CCP should do ? Stop all the servers, and forget about Dust 514 ? or re-make the full game, and do "another" official release ? ... maybe rollback to the previous build, and get hammer by critics ?
What ? |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 14:57:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:I don't know what they should do, that's like saying "I slit my throat, what should I do?" but I'd start with... Player count increase, frame rate to be stable and some new basic game modes. King of the hill, capture the flag, free4all, VIP. You know, basic things like that. I'd seriously look at what/who nOObs are fighting against. Maybe look at the terrain, invisible walls.
Oh, and I'd rush a PvE hordes mode out... and trading between players... You know, all the things which were supposed to make Dust good and not just some pisspoor version of Unreal.
Most of that things are coming ... and you know that. Maybe a bit of patients ? |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 20:15:00 -
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How all this " Internal " fighting is going to affect Dust 514 popularity ? Most of the more vocal haters, have 1000+ / 2000+ "likes", they are members of the bigger's corporations in Dust , and alliances in EvE ....
Any noobs that sees this BS, are going to run away before you can say "Opsss" |
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