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Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2013.05.15 04:59:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/dust-514/user-reviews?dist=neutral
This game has problems... Lots and lots of problems. It's ok to believe in the idea and potential of what something can be. I don't quiet understand how people can be so misguided and just plain blind in their user reviews of DUST. Uprising is a visual improvement but that's all it really is. This game currently is on the boarder between being just a bad game and mediocre.
You spelt "border" wrong. A "boarder" is someone staying in your house.
Also, no, I don't think the game is amazing or perfect, but I do have a lot of fun here. And you're just dead wrong about Uprising being a purely visual improvement. Altered skill tree, both in functionality and accessibility, new weapons and equipment, visual improvement which applies to both framerate and graphics, new features in the back end which allow CCP to adjust certain elements much more easily than they used to...
There's a LOT more to Uprising than just what you're seeing.
I'll agree some people are being WAY over-generous, but you're being harsher than is warranted, so it balances out. |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 06:55:00 -
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grreen mctree wrote:Laughing at fanboys is fun, problem?
Under. 5k. players. online.
I love how people quote this like it actually means anything.
Lets pretend, just for a minute, that every single one of those players is online for a full 2 hours.
Now lets also pretend, to make your argument look REALLY good, that there's no fluctuation in the playerbase from day to day.
This means you only multiply the current number of active players by 12, giving a total playerbase of 60,000.
Obviously, this is a gross under-estimate because the assumptions I'm making are provably false for the majority of DUST players. 200,000 active players wouldn't be an unreasonable estimate, although it might be on the high side. |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 07:17:00 -
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Elrick Mercer wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:grreen mctree wrote:Laughing at fanboys is fun, problem?
Under. 5k. players. online. I love how people quote this like it actually means anything. Lets pretend, just for a minute, that every single one of those players is online for a full 2 hours. Now lets also pretend, to make your argument look REALLY good, that there's no fluctuation in the playerbase from day to day. This means you only multiply the current number of active players by 12, giving a total playerbase of 60,000. Obviously, this is a gross under-estimate because the assumptions I'm making are provably false for the majority of DUST players. 200,000 active players wouldn't be an unreasonable estimate, although it might be on the high side. BF3 on the PS3 alone averages that and then some during prime time I believe 73,000 were on last I checked. You are completely reaching for excuses...
So because an actual AAA title that's been out for long enough to have built up its sales numbers AND is a continuation of an already-established franchise can do it, a free-to-play new arrival with minimal advertising should too?
Pretty sure that for early days on an unproven product, DUST is doing just fine.
I'm not arguing that DUST is perfect, I'm not even arguing that it's ready for release (I don't think it is). I'm just saying that being consistently above 3000 simultaneous players most days is actually not as bad as people are trying to make it sound. |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 07:18:00 -
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lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:grreen mctree wrote:Laughing at fanboys is fun, problem?
Under. 5k. players. online. 200,000 active players wouldn't be an unreasonable estimate, although it might be on the high side. Yes, it is an unreasonable estimate.
I've shown you numbers that say it's not.
What's your source? |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 08:20:00 -
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lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:grreen mctree wrote:Laughing at fanboys is fun, problem?
Under. 5k. players. online. 200,000 active players wouldn't be an unreasonable estimate, although it might be on the high side. Yes, it is an unreasonable estimate. I've shown you numbers that say it's not. What's your source? You took the 5k players and then made up other numbers. According to my sources there are under 20,000 players who actively play the game.
I showed numbers that are publicly available, and used logic and working that can be seen and demonstrated as logical.
What are your "sources" basing their claims on?
What ARE your "sources"?
Using the numbers that are publicly available, your 20,000 figure doesn't make any rational sense. None at all. So either share a valid source for your information, or stop trying to spread blatant lies. |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 08:23:00 -
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Elrick Mercer wrote:Dust is being advertised as a AAA title!
It's being advertised as AAA. Doesn't mean it's actually on that level yet.
That claim is why I referred to BF3 as an "ACTUAL" AAA title, emphasising that while CCP make that claim, it isn't (yet) true. |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 08:43:00 -
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lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:
I showed numbers that are publicly available, and used logic and working that can be seen and demonstrated as logical.
What are your "sources" basing their claims on?
What ARE your "sources"?
Using the numbers that are publicly available, your 20,000 figure doesn't make any rational sense. None at all. So either share a valid source for your information, or stop trying to spread blatant lies.
wat. You take the 5k number, and based on your general idea of how long people play, you get 60,000. Which is quite a bit high in my opinion but it still makes sense. Then from out of nowhere you say all that is wrong and pull 200,000 out of your ass. Great logical claims right there. I'm just doing the exact same thing you are lol.
Assuming people are averaging 2 hours of playtime every day is a HUGE overestimation for the average player.
Assuming that there are no players who play less often than every day is an even more ridiculous assumption.
Getting 60,000 from 5000 simultaneous players is a REALLY low measure.
Maybe you need to actually go back and read my initial post. Since you obviously didn't, because I already explained how I got my numbers. |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 09:02:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:You like stats huh ? I give you some ;
Counter Strike : Global Offensive: 7,172 Currently online
Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Multiplayer: 5,723 Currently online
Don't bee such a troll.... please.
So you've provided numbers for two major and well-established game brands that have been around for years, and the numbers on those games don't significantly outstrip the numbers on DUST.
Thanks for supporting my argument with hard numbers on some games that should reasonably be expected to have MUCH larger and more acitve playerbases than a game like DUST, and seem not to be as far ahead as I would have expected them to.
And this isn't me being a troll. Pointing out that you spelt "be" wrong and a "bee" is a flying insect would be trolling. Arguing in a thread about a videogame's chances of success and using publicly available numbers, logic and basic knowledge of maths is called "discussion". |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 09:04:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Ohhh, and by the way, the source of this stats is Steam Stats page. Which means that they are PC numbers, that are always higher than consoles, specially this PS3.
Pretty sure player numbers in the PS3 version of DUST are higher than on PC  (sorry, had to be said) |
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