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Vrain Matari ZionTCD Unclaimed. 523	Posted - 2013.05.15 13:10:00 - [121] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/dust-514/user-reviews?dist=neutral This game has problems... Lots and lots of problems. It's ok to believe in the idea and potential of what something can be. I don't quiet understand how people can be so misguided and just plain blind in their user reviews of DUST. Uprising is a visual improvement but that's all it really is. This game currently is on the boarder between being just a bad game and mediocre. I think it's all comes down to your ideology and chosen methods of achieving progress. You and your crew are reasoning and prognosticating based on some ideology born out of your fps roots and who the hell knows what else. It's not something i'm interested in thinking about, tbh. Problem is, the predictions you peeps are making based on this ideology keep failing the empirical test when they come up aginst the results CCP are delivering to us every day, every week, every month. By this point their track record of delivering on issues that affect the game is quite solid. Your track record, conversely, looks exactly like what i would expect of any ideologically-based worldview. At this point you have two choices: embrace the empirical results and incorporate them into your worldview, or descend into madness and irrationality. How much of a fundamentalist are you? P.S. This is a very interesting case. A pack of semi-professional forum warriors employing generally negative techniques(perhaps with good intentions) meets a powerful and unique creative force, namely CCP. The negative warriors are experts in a field(fps gaming), whereas the creator is a neophyte. A classic mythological struggle ensues. It's appropriate to think in these terms, since with New Eden, CCP is probably, accidentally, building one of the seven wonders of our age. I kid you not.
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1474	Posted - 2013.05.15 13:23:00 - [122] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: It's probably just a bunch of devs creating fake accounts and giving it 10/10 anyways, that's how these things work now anyways yea? To be honest I hadn't even thought of looking at Metacritic. While the game is released now development has not even slowed down internally. We are forging ahead with the next update. I respectfully wonder what CCP is going to screw up next.
Beast Beastlington Bragian Order Amarr Empire 267	Posted - 2013.05.15 13:29:00 - [123] - Quote This Iron Wolf Saber guy is a RIOT! People review games now based on their potential? I'm giving Call of Duty :Declassified on VIta a 10. They could easily patch out all the bad things about it. Oh, also. Let's give Turning Point: Fall of Liberty a 10 too. We could reassemble the dev team and get them to patch the **** out of that game too. lol
fenrir storm Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 314	Posted - 2013.05.15 14:01:00 - [124] - Quote The game was poor in beta and was complained about loads and they changed things that worked and left issues alone. Seems things are still the same , I'll start playing when they sort it.
semperfi1999 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 444	Posted - 2013.05.15 14:03:00 - [125] - Quote TBH....there are alot of problems that need to be fixed. Alot of them have been mentioned here. This game does have waaayyyy too many fanboys who refuse to see the problems that do exist. However that being said I am having more fun this build than I did during the last build (other than some of the clan battles). This game has potential but if CCP can deliver the core gameplay fixes by the next build then this game will probably die. Hit detection and graphics grabbing your character (smooth walls now and certain hills) are just two of the issues that MUST be addressed if this game is ever going to reach that lofty height of AAA shooter.
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 416	Posted - 2013.05.15 14:11:00 - [126] - Quote lolwut Everyone posting in this thread is a fanboy. Let's just focus on making dust better and not let the metaQQ take up too much of our time.
fenrir storm Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 314	Posted - 2013.05.15 14:14:00 - [127] - Quote semperfi1999 wrote: TBH....there are alot of problems that need to be fixed. Alot of them have been mentioned here. This game does have waaayyyy too many fanboys who refuse to see the problems that do exist. However that being said I am having more fun this build than I did during the last build (other than some of the clan battles). This game has potential but if CCP can deliver the core gameplay fixes by the next build then this game will probably die. Hit detection and graphics grabbing your character (smooth walls now and certain hills) are just two of the issues that MUST be addressed if this game is ever going to reach that lofty height of AAA shooter. Not played since closed beta finished but the same issues are still being reported (I check the forum from time to time) and the same comment keep cropping up mainly POTENTIAL. Think ccp need to open there eyes and ears a bit now. Hit detection still a problem ?? it will never be sorted properly if your still haveing problems now
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 429	Posted - 2013.05.15 14:16:00 - [128] - Quote I remember Eve getting a 6.6 on gamespot's official review. At the time, they weren't really far off. So what? Constant improvement is a beautiful thing. These days, the game goes closer to a 9.5 in my book. Decrease in half a point because of the "CCP can and will derp something" factor.
Herli Pascal Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 17	Posted - 2013.05.15 14:19:00 - [129] - Quote Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: lolwut Everyone posting in this thread is a fanboy. Let's just focus on making dust better and not let the metaQQ take up too much of our time. Well said, sir.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2110	Posted - 2013.05.15 14:25:00 - [130] - Quote People are giving this 10/10 and saying it has potential. Paradox much? Fanboys much? I really am looking forward to the slating I hope Dust gets from the media instead of fanboys. It's not that I want Dust to fail, I'd like CCP to realise, and all the fanboys to realise, where we're at.

Panther Alpha WarRavens 201	Posted - 2013.05.15 14:28:00 - [131] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: People are giving this 10/10 and saying it has potential. Paradox much? Fanboys much? I really am looking forward to the slating I hope Dust gets from the media instead of fanboys. It's not that I want Dust to fail, I'd like CCP to realise, and all the fanboys to realise, where we're at. Really ? and what you thing CCP is going to do ? Go back to Beta testing, AFTER the game have already been release ? Do you guys even realize what you doing ?
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2110	Posted - 2013.05.15 14:34:00 - [132] - Quote Panther, they could have fixed things in Beta. They didn't, and they still don't know what they're doing regarding balancing, there's no PvE, no market. So how is it 10/10 fanboy war raven scrub?
Panther Alpha WarRavens 201	Posted - 2013.05.15 14:40:00 - [133] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Panther, they could have fixed things in Beta. They didn't, and they still don't know what they're doing regarding balancing, there's no PvE, no market. So how is it 10/10 fanboy war raven scrub? Again i will ask ... what you propose CCP should do ? Stop all the servers, and forget about Dust 514 ? or re-make the full game, and do "another" official release ? ... maybe rollback to the previous build, and get hammer by critics ? What ?
Draven Coldburn Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.05.15 14:45:00 - [134] - Quote Shady IceCream Truck wrote: lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote: The **** riding is unreal. You gotta understand.. EVeryone on this thread uses an AR.. "just fix the aiming" lol.. Everyone that uses "other" weapons are GONE.. just check the BF Ahem...I'm still here. Sorry, my first post but I've been keeping tabs on these forums. I run nothing but the forge gun. Been addicted to it since I first used it. I plan to stay. Lol.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2112	Posted - 2013.05.15 14:52:00 - [135] - Quote I don't know what they should do, that's like saying "I slit my throat, what should I do?" but I'd start with... Player count increase, frame rate to be stable and some new basic game modes. King of the hill, capture the flag, free4all, VIP. You know, basic things like that. I'd seriously look at what/who nOObs are fighting against. Maybe look at the terrain, invisible walls. Oh, and I'd rush a PvE hordes mode out... and trading between players... You know, all the things which were supposed to make Dust good and not just some pisspoor version of Unreal.
RedRebelCork Ahrendee Mercenaries 55	Posted - 2013.05.15 14:54:00 - [136] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Tony Calif wrote: Panther, they could have fixed things in Beta. They didn't, and they still don't know what they're doing regarding balancing, there's no PvE, no market. So how is it 10/10 fanboy war raven scrub? Again i will ask ... what you propose CCP should do ? Stop all the servers, and forget about Dust 514 ? or re-make the full game, and do "another" official release ? ... maybe rollback to the previous build, and get hammer by critics ? What ? Why does it have to be all or nothing? Drama queens in here What I would propose CCP do is take a long hard look at how we got here and how they plan on remedying the multiple issues the game faces in a timely and professional manner. If I were a consultant brought in tomorrow by CCP some suggestions would be: * Manage the communications with the players better. Information has been inconsistent and often almost deliberately vague. * Better advertising, work with SOE on this. * Improve skill tree to provide new players with some low hanging fruit (for example, a basic logi dropsuit for beginners) * Core mechanics need to be urgently fixed (gun ranges, terrain glitches, aim) * An acknowledgement that the game is not perfect but with 10 years of incrementally improving EVE they have the will, ability and desire to make this the best serious FPS/MMOFPS humanly possible.
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 311	Posted - 2013.05.15 14:55:00 - [137] - Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plfAoguqM0I game is crap CCP make all the people appear and make the guns shoot more than 5 feet.
Panther Alpha WarRavens 201	Posted - 2013.05.15 14:57:00 - [138] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: I don't know what they should do, that's like saying "I slit my throat, what should I do?" but I'd start with... Player count increase, frame rate to be stable and some new basic game modes. King of the hill, capture the flag, free4all, VIP. You know, basic things like that. I'd seriously look at what/who nOObs are fighting against. Maybe look at the terrain, invisible walls. Oh, and I'd rush a PvE hordes mode out... and trading between players... You know, all the things which were supposed to make Dust good and not just some pisspoor version of Unreal. Most of that things are coming ... and you know that. Maybe a bit of patients ?
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2112	Posted - 2013.05.15 15:02:00 - [139] - Quote They were "comming" a year ago. Still no sign of them. Just more SOONtm bullshit.
Skar Blade Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.05.15 15:06:00 - [140] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/dust-514/user-reviews?dist=neutral This game has problems... Lots and lots of problems. It's ok to believe in the idea and potential of what something can be. I don't quiet understand how people can be so misguided and just plain blind in their user reviews of DUST. Uprising is a visual improvement but that's all it really is. This game currently is on the boarder between being just a bad game and mediocre. Metacritic is a joke of a site.

Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 481	Posted - 2013.05.15 15:07:00 - [141] - Quote Oh noes, this thread is literally the only thread I've seen bashing CCP in days. The critics must be losing their touch, there were two every hour back in March.
Skar Blade Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.05.15 15:15:00 - [142] - Quote Laheon wrote: Oh noes, this thread is literally the only thread I've seen bashing CCP in days. The critics must be losing their touch, there were two every hour back in March. For being a free game, people sure do whine a lot. People need to know that a game like this will improve over time. Just like Eve Online.
RedRebelCork Ahrendee Mercenaries 55	Posted - 2013.05.15 15:20:00 - [143] - Quote Skar Blade wrote: Laheon wrote: Oh noes, this thread is literally the only thread I've seen bashing CCP in days. The critics must be losing their touch, there were two every hour back in March. For being a free game, people sure do whine a lot. People need to know that a game like this will improve over time. Just like Eve Online. I think people aren't annoyed at CCP for what Dust514 is, but rather the potential it's failing to live up to. You have to factor in the sense of ownership that is with a lot of players that have been beta testing for over 6 months. A bad launch isn't just bad for CCP, but also for them. Not to mention a lot of the community can plainly see what needs to be done to fix the game yet it's not being done (or done right) in their opinions and that can be frustrating even if they're incorrect in their assumptions.
Full Metal Kitten Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 298	Posted - 2013.05.15 15:20:00 - [144] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: I respectfully wonder what CCP is going to screw up next. You do have a reputation for being respectful. Thanks again for your contributions.
Skar Blade Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.05.15 15:32:00 - [145] - Quote RedRebelCork wrote: Skar Blade wrote: Laheon wrote: Oh noes, this thread is literally the only thread I've seen bashing CCP in days. The critics must be losing their touch, there were two every hour back in March. For being a free game, people sure do whine a lot. People need to know that a game like this will improve over time. Just like Eve Online. I think people aren't annoyed at CCP for what Dust514 is, but rather the potential it's failing to live up to. You have to factor in the sense of ownership that is with a lot of players that have been beta testing for over 6 months. A bad launch isn't just bad for CCP, but also for them. Not to mention a lot of the community can plainly see what needs to be done to fix the game yet it's not being done (or done right) in their opinions and that can be frustrating even if they're incorrect in their assumptions. The game just launched and the game will be improved as time goes on. So the games potential is still there.
Raxsus Lannister The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 17	Posted - 2013.05.15 15:39:00 - [146] - Quote grreen mctree wrote: Laughing at fanboys is fun, problem? Under. 5k. players. online. you. forget. to. mention. its. Wednesday. morning. going. by. that. 5k. is. really. good.
Olaf the Gutless DUST University Ivy League 20	Posted - 2013.05.15 15:52:00 - [147] - Quote I would have thought CCP would have got everything right by now considering their other FPS...
Shady IceCream Truck Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 14	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:49:00 - [148] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Delta 749 wrote: You really do flail and grasp and whatever straws you can huh, you were the first one to compare the game to other shooters If you dont like someone bringing in real numbers and common sense then you shouldnt have done that in the first place What you want me to compare Dust 514 with ? A racing game ? DUST=RACING GAME with bonus AR roadkill soup...
Kiro Justice The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 103	Posted - 2013.05.15 17:03:00 - [149] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: I don't know what they should do, that's like saying "I slit my throat, what should I do?" but I'd start with... Player count increase, frame rate to be stable and some new basic game modes. King of the hill, capture the flag, free4all, VIP. You know, basic things like that. I'd seriously look at what/who nOObs are fighting against. Maybe look at the terrain, invisible walls. Oh, and I'd rush a PvE hordes mode out... and trading between players... You know, all the things which were supposed to make Dust good and not just some pisspoor version of Unreal. And while they fixed this you'd whine about the game >_>
pwnzortank Better Hide R Die 3	Posted - 2013.05.15 17:14:00 - [150] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/dust-514/user-reviews?dist=neutral This game has problems... Lots and lots of problems. It's ok to believe in the idea and potential of what something can be. I don't quiet understand how people can be so misguided and just plain blind in their user reviews of DUST. Uprising is a visual improvement but that's all it really is. This game currently is on the boarder between being just a bad game and mediocre. biggest problem outside of coding etc etc is you and your try hards tbh



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