I think people need to buy a new mouse pad,. set sensitivity to 90 and remove smoothing.

just saying,.

ccp just revert the controls to how they were, we know you worked hard to change them but its pretty clear to most that the old settings were 100X better

ccp just revert the controls to how they were, we know you worked hard to change them but its pretty clear to most that the old settings were 100X better

It is still a beta.. oh wait we can't use that excuse anymore dammit
ok just HTFU then

I think 90% problem with the aiming is YOU. I'm doing fine with sniper/ar/shotty/smg/pistol.

Took me about 15mins of testing to get the X/Y sensitivity to my sweet spot, then game on.

CCP says they don't think there's anything wrong with aiming. Make of that what you will. They obviously know what they're talking about.

Hi guys,

WeGÇÖve just finished testing a further update to the aiming systems and we will be deploying this to you today. This time the changes are primarily focused on improving the DS3 controls but there are some little tweaks for the mouse in there as well. I have decided not to explain what has actually changed (yet) as I donGÇÖt want to influence your feedback. I will fill you in once youGÇÖve had a chance to play with them and shout praise/abuse.

In other control related news:

* We are looking in to whether or not the DS3 acceleration to max rotation speed is respecting the actual settings (thanks Sete Clifton for noticing there might be an issue here).

* After some investigation we discovered that the sensitivity input curve being used by the mouse was incorrect. Despite new settings being present they were not being used. This issue requires a code update to fix and that is something we are working on as we speak. We will let you know when that is ready (this issue does not effect DS3 users).

* Related to that we found a bug with the mouse sensitivity input curve that is being used which resulted in some weird spikes when changing sensitivity. This occurs at settings of 20 and 100 and will be fixed once the above issue has been.

Cheers

CCP Wolfman

ccp just revert the controls to how they were, we know you worked hard to change them but its pretty clear to most that the old settings were 100X better

what?



if you use a mouse don't be on 20 or 100

its the strafe speed it needs to be lowerd a bit then the aim well feel better. but what do i know i have only played shooters like 17 years or more.

I think 90% problem with the aiming is YOU. I'm doing fine with sniper/ar/shotty/smg/pistol.

Its not just kb/m, ds3 is effected by this as well...

what?



if you use a mouse don't be on 20 or 100

what?



if you use a mouse don't be on 20 or 100

It's 5-14, yet I still feel like I'm using a cheap HDMI cable for my TV whenever I try to position my crosshairs on a enemy. What do you all think the reviewers will say when this game still has unnecessary bugs that were unnecessarily made by CCP because they felt that the control sensitivity "should get more tweaks".

You know how if you jiggle a pencil out in front of your face the pencil appears to be made out of rubber?

That is how my gun feels in this build. Like the barrel is loosely tracking just behind my sight. Like a sparkler trail at night.

Still very much broken.

I'm starting to think most of my aiming issues come from frame rate issues. The game just runs so poorly and I swear I can't be getting more than maybe 20 fps at any one time. My aim just jumps from the very perceptible dips in frame rate that happen in battle.

It wasnt bad in chromosome cause well.. we were playing on 240p and the ps3 could keep up.

I think 90% problem with the aiming is YOU. I'm doing fine with sniper/ar/shotty/smg/pistol.

Took me about 15mins of testing to get the X/Y sensitivity to my sweet spot, then game on.

All of this could be resolved if they just reverted the aiming. I cannot fathom any conceivable reason they decided to make these changes.

You know a expensive hdmi sends the same signal that a cheap one does right? It either works or it dosnt. No dif.

I'm starting to think most of my aiming issues come from frame rate issues. The game just runs so poorly and I swear I can't be getting more than maybe 20 fps at any one time. My aim just jumps from the very perceptible dips in frame rate that happen in battle.

It wasnt bad in chromosome cause well.. we were playing on 240p and the ps3 could keep up.

[FIXED]:

GÇóMouse sensitivity tweaks applied

its the strafe speed it needs to be lowerd a bit then the aim well feel better. but what do i know i have only played shooters like 17 years or more.

I Hope they are not serious "fixed"

I use the DS3.

I agree, we should just revert to chromosome's aiming, it was great.

If i move the right analog stick a little to adjust my aim, it moves too much. I end up having to correct my own aim constantly instead of well... aiming.... I use standard gear so every shot counts for me. Anyways, yanking the right analog stick left and right constantly in such a frantic, yet precise way tenses and hurts my wrist after a while, Ihis is just annoying, I'm not going to play this anymore, simply not worth the carpel tunnel honestly.

I use the Sixaxis controller (and I say "Sixaxis" because one of my controllers is old enough that it doesn't do Dualshock) as well.

In Chromosome, we had almost no aim scaling. We also had no aim acceleration. We also had a too-large deadzone even when turned down on the PSMove settings. It was better in some ways, but worse in others.

In Chromosome, if you turned the sensitivity up, tilting the stick only a little either produced no movement or too much for fine aim. If you turned the sensitivity down, you were stuck with reduced turn speed. In Uprising, on release, you were stuck with a small tilt producing almost the full movement speed, but after the fix, this has been improved and you can use fine aim while also having high controller sensitivity. Unfortunately, the scaling ruins it, because if you keep the stick tilted a small way for an extended period, like you would when trying to track a slow-moving target, you instead have your turn speed gradually ramp up the longer you keep going. I'm still not comfortable with aim acceleration, and I still want the ability to turn it off, because of exactly this kind of scenario.

Also, in the early days of Chromosome, whether you had Aim Assist turned on or off, it randomly either did nothing or was glitchy and horrible, then they patched it so it kind of worked. I turned it off and left it off, because I don't like Aim Assist. In Uprising, if I turn Aim Assist off, then get within Shotgun range (about 5m) of an enemy, my controller sensitivity leaps to something like 200 and also undoes the improvements to aim scaling so just touching the right stick spins me almost 90 degrees before I can stop turning. Outside of CQC, it works fine, but I mostly run short-range weapons and spend a lot of time in close, so this is game-breaking for me. I don't like, or want, Aim Assist, but I'm forced to use it just to have a semblance of control in my preferred range bracket.

Sony should not have released the game on a day that would coincide with its name, without considering the lack of FPS MP experience of the developers.

I'm sure CCP would have wanted more time to polish things up before official release.

Publishers rock and suck at the same time. :/

That is so hilariously wrong you should get an award for being in the wrong galaxy. Considering we are playing DUST it might be valid.

Sony had nothing at all to do with that decision. They never have anything to do with decisions from developers and publishers that are not under direct control of Sony. Which, BTW, does not include CCP nor most game developers.

Thanks for the chuckle.

Are there any good sensitivity settings for a new player who plans on picking up an HMG or AR? I have little to no experience with FPS games so would it be viable to stay with the default settings whilst using a controller or is it all dependent on preference?

Fair enough. Can we just compromise and have the hip fire reverted back to chromosome? I'm adjusting to the med/long range but anything in cqc is totally out of control.

CCP says they don't think there's anything wrong with aiming. Make of that what you will. They obviously know what they're talking about.

Off course they don't. They are all sitting in their office playing with keyboard and mouse. So much for the console gamer... Guess I will have to play on my PC. OOPS! I can't its a PS3 Exclusive! Guess that doesn't mean console gamers actually use the controller...

Off course they don't. They are all sitting in their office playing with keyboard and mouse. So much for the console gamer... Guess I will have to play on my PC. OOPS! I can't its a PS3 Exclusive! Guess that doesn't mean console gamers actually use the controller...

Mouse is far worse than the controller right now. Don't be leave me? Plug em into the USB ports of your PS3 and have at it.

I still don't have real confirmation, but I think CCP is done tweaking. They moved their topic to the request/feedback section. I think that means give up and either go ds3 or go home.

Any other interesting games that anyone has tried worth recommending?

Sleeping dogs is frikin awesome, and free for plus members!!!

CCP says they don't think there's anything wrong with aiming. Make of that what you will. They obviously know what they're talking about.

Obviously you don't listen too well.

CCP does know mouse aiming is fubared and they're currently bug hunting the one haunting the mouse users now.

DS3 is mostly done-ish though probably a few more minor tweaks.

Obviously you don't listen too well.

CCP does know mouse aiming is fubared and they're currently bug hunting the one haunting the mouse users now.

DS3 is mostly done-ish though probably a few more minor tweaks.

DS3 is mostly done-ish? Can we get an option to turn off the acceleration?

I fear for that option would require a new patch if needed I am afraid.

I'll poke to see if its something that can be considered in the future or if its part of the game design.

I am still readjusting from the constant changes and still haven't gotten my 'dancing' shoes back on yet because of the constant changes.

CCP shouldn't be pushing anything onto us that we don't want, regardless of whether or not it is part of their "game design".

You shouldn't let them force feed you that excuse because they love the sound of their own voices. If it's bad, you need to communicate that it's bad, regardless of their flawed vision.

CCP shouldn't be pushing anything onto us that we don't want, regardless of whether or not it is part of their "game design".

You shouldn't let them force feed you that excuse because they love the sound of their own voices. If it's bad, you need to communicate that it's bad, regardless of their flawed vision.

I understand that much, and it's going to take some time to get out of the boat we're in now.

Just don't let them make excuses every step of the way. I've known them for a decade and some of them get incredibly defensive about their bad decision making.

I would wager right now that they are still attempting to salvage this virtual joystick debacle rather than just giving us raw input with turning limits. Not because it's the right to do, but because, well... "Pride, son! It was a good idea and I'll go down with the ship at the cost of everyone elses fun!"

I'm merely saying, don't let that happen.

I am not their boss however, most I can do is make them listen and consider. If they still want acceleration for whatever reason that's up them.

As a DS3 user myself I hardly notice the acceleration, its not like the pegged movements of killzone 2 or jerkfest fighting the controller that Resistance had, I can understand why a mouse user would despise such system and for a Dual Shock User the uses are dependent on the players, some feel they need it to gain some edge and are used to the rate of gains. Some players like yourself would like a solid rate of turn instead.

There is a reason why I normally don't play shooters on the PS3, Dust 514 doesn't have the same aiming problems the others did.

I am not their boss however, most I can do is make them listen and consider. If they still want acceleration for whatever reason that's up them.

As a DS3 user myself I hardly notice the acceleration, its not like the pegged movements of killzone 2 or jerkfest fighting the controller that Resistance had, I can understand why a mouse user would despise such system and for a Dual Shock User the uses are dependent on the players, some feel they need it to gain some edge and are used to the rate of gains. Some players like yourself would like a solid rate of turn instead.

There is a reason why I normally don't play shooters on the PS3, Dust 514 doesn't have the same aiming problems the others did.

I rented killzone 2 back in the day and the controls made me cry.

They were not this bad, though....

I second this question.

It's about the only problem left on that end.

I am not their boss however, most I can do is make them listen and consider. If they still want acceleration for whatever reason that's up them.

As a DS3 user myself I hardly notice the acceleration, its not like the pegged movements of killzone 2 or jerkfest fighting the controller that Resistance had, I can understand why a mouse user would despise such system and for a Dual Shock User the uses are dependent on the players, some feel they need it to gain some edge and are used to the rate of gains. Some players like yourself would like a solid rate of turn instead.

There is a reason why I normally don't play shooters on the PS3, Dust 514 doesn't have the same aiming problems the others did.

The DS3 aiming controls are still broken. I hope for the sake of this game that they don't truly believe they have "fixed" it.

The biggest issue is that there is too big of a deadzone when aiming with the DS3 right now. It either jerks or doesn't move at all. There's not precise, gentle movements anymore. Fix that and I'll be happy with the controls. I seriously hope they don't have to wait for another patch in order to fix it.

You can even test this. Go in-game and when ADS, start moving the stick slowly left or right. For a good few mm, despite the stick being tilted, the game doesn't register it. When you finally move the stick far enough, it registers a large, fast movement. The deadzone is ridiculous.

Throw away that crap Sony controller and mod it! Get the Splitfish FragFX Shark. Much better.

Have you tried adjusting the deadzone to 0 or very low on the move settings? I felt similar issues and killed all of the move setting and it seemed to help, as to why one affects the other, no clue.

O_o

No, I hadn't. I'll give it a shot and even if it doesn't have an actual effect, maybe I can give myself a placebo effect. XD But whatever the problem is, they need to fix it soon.

Any advice you'd like to share?

You know a expensive hdmi sends the same signal that a cheap one does right? It either works or it dosnt. No dif.