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Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
201
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Posted - 2013.05.14 15:36:00 -
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It's 5-14, yet I still feel like I'm using a cheap HDMI cable for my TV whenever I try to position my crosshairs on a enemy. What do you all think the reviewers will say when this game still has unnecessary bugs that were unnecessarily made by CCP because they felt that the control sensitivity "should get more tweaks". |

Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2098
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Posted - 2013.05.14 15:45:00 -
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I think reviewers will not be impressed. |

bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
131
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Posted - 2013.05.14 15:51:00 -
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Yep Aim is still trash, you aren't the only one that feels this way, but then again a few people have posted that its just fine.. I agree with you not sure why the aiming mechanics where even tweaked.....
This really won't look good to the core FPS reviewers maybe a few kind words from the MMOish departments...  |

Acezero 44
Ill Omens EoN.
1
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Posted - 2013.05.14 15:52:00 -
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I think people need to buy a new mouse pad,. set sensitivity to 90 and remove smoothing.
just saying,. |

Dust Evo 514
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.05.14 15:53:00 -
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Sony should not have released the game on a day that would coincide with its name, without considering the lack of FPS MP experience of the developers.
I'm sure CCP would have wanted more time to polish things up before official release.
Publishers rock and suck at the same time. :/ |

gabriel login
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
21
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Posted - 2013.05.14 15:55:00 -
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its the strafe speed it needs to be lowerd a bit then the aim well feel better. but what do i know i have only played shooters like 17 years or more. |

bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
131
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Posted - 2013.05.14 15:55:00 -
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Acezero 44 wrote:I think people need to buy a new mouse pad,. set sensitivity to 90 and remove smoothing.
just saying,.
Its not just kb/m, ds3 is effected by this as well... |

Muramasa Armads
Defensores Doctrina
11
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Posted - 2013.05.14 15:56:00 -
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Aiming is still difficult especially at close range. I canGÇÖt seem to find the right sensitivity when it comes to this aiming system. I do know that turning the aiming assistance off does help a little bit with aiming this build. I swear that this new aiming system kind of reminds me of Homefront which isn't a good thing. |

Gunner Needed
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
131
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Posted - 2013.05.14 15:56:00 -
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ccp just revert the controls to how they were, we know you worked hard to change them but its pretty clear to most that the old settings were 100X better |

Jayquan18
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
58
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Posted - 2013.05.14 16:06:00 -
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Gunner Needed wrote:ccp just revert the controls to how they were, we know you worked hard to change them but its pretty clear to most that the old settings were 100X better Yeah change back to the old controls. The new one is BS. |
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Spaceman-Rob
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
72
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Posted - 2013.05.14 16:10:00 -
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It's not broken, it's just crap compared to battlefield, cod, mag and far cry 3 to name but a few I like to play. |

bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
131
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Posted - 2013.05.14 16:23:00 -
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Gunner Needed wrote:ccp just revert the controls to how they were, we know you worked hard to change them but its pretty clear to most that the old settings were 100X better
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2966
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Posted - 2013.05.14 16:38:00 -
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Old controls were broken.
New controls are more broken in very different ways, but have fixed many of the old problems.
Need OPTION TO DISABLE acceleration. Need NO ACCELERATION ON MOUSE. Seriously, how was that even a thing? Need custom controller mapping rather than being limited to presets. Need option for R2/L2 Accelerate/Brake on tanks as well as LAVs. Kind of surprised this one didn't happen already. Need people to HTFU and realise that turn speed limits are there for multiple valid reasons and not going away. |

BlackWinter RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
41
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Posted - 2013.05.14 16:58:00 -
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Aiming still needs work especially moving the gun side to side. The slightest movement sends the gun flying all over. At first I thought maybe my controller broke or my sensitivity was too high, but after making changes it's still happening randomly. |

Cpt Murd0ck
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
174
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:08:00 -
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ive never got how people can say there is a turn limit for mouse .....
variable DPI anyone ? |

DJINN serious issues
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
20
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:10:00 -
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Worse than chromosome which was bad to begin with. ;)
They spent so much time trying to "balance" things for all the whiners that they forgot real issues. Like controls.
The turn speed is way too slow. I run 100% sensitivity with a 5400dpi mouse set to max to be semi comfortable. |

Darkonus Prime
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:11:00 -
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It is still a beta.. oh wait we can't use that excuse anymore dammit ok just HTFU then |

VLIGHT5
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
98
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:15:00 -
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CCP says they don't think there's anything wrong with aiming. Make of that what you will. They obviously know what they're talking about. |

Cpt Murd0ck
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
174
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:16:00 -
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Darkonus Prime wrote:It is still a beta.. oh wait we can't use that excuse anymore dammit ok just HTFU then
work in progress :P
and I run a M60 with 5700 DPI and I have it set to medium unless I'm in a tank.....set to max turning is way to fast might just be what ppl are used to ???? |

Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T EoN.
48
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:29:00 -
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I think 90% problem with the aiming is YOU. I'm doing fine with sniper/ar/shotty/smg/pistol.
Took me about 15mins of testing to get the X/Y sensitivity to my sweet spot, then game on. |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2966
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:39:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:I think 90% problem with the aiming is YOU. I'm doing fine with sniper/ar/shotty/smg/pistol.
Took me about 15mins of testing to get the X/Y sensitivity to my sweet spot, then game on. I've found the closest thing this game has to a sweet spot for me, and unfortunately, to make it work I have to turn aim assist on otherwise it throws my controls into uncontrollable overdrive as soon as I reach the range where I actually need my aim to be precise because [still waiting on CCP to figure out why], so other than the fact that I'm FORCED TO USE AIM ASSIST, the controls aren't too bad.
I can work around the aim acceleration - it isn't ideal, because when I hold the stick steady on a slight angle, that's because I want to track a slow-moving target, NOT because I want my turn speed to gradually ramp up until I'm spinning at full speed. |

Solarisjock
One-Armed Bandits Heretic Initiative
27
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:48:00 -
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i think the biggest headaches about the controls is that the sensitivity's are all related. I found my sweet spot was to maxout the DS3 sensitivity settings and drop my mouse from 90 to 70, everything got insanely better. i have yet to fiddle with the Move settings to see if that effects it as well. |

Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
233
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:49:00 -
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I'm doing awesome. I'm not sure what that says about me. |

crazy space 1
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
1133
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:51:00 -
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VLIGHT5 wrote:CCP says they don't think there's anything wrong with aiming. Make of that what you will. They obviously know what they're talking about. what?
CCP Wolfman wrote:Hi guys,
WeGÇÖve just finished testing a further update to the aiming systems and we will be deploying this to you today. This time the changes are primarily focused on improving the DS3 controls but there are some little tweaks for the mouse in there as well. I have decided not to explain what has actually changed (yet) as I donGÇÖt want to influence your feedback. I will fill you in once youGÇÖve had a chance to play with them and shout praise/abuse.
In other control related news:
* We are looking in to whether or not the DS3 acceleration to max rotation speed is respecting the actual settings (thanks Sete Clifton for noticing there might be an issue here).
* After some investigation we discovered that the sensitivity input curve being used by the mouse was incorrect. Despite new settings being present they were not being used. This issue requires a code update to fix and that is something we are working on as we speak. We will let you know when that is ready (this issue does not effect DS3 users).
* Related to that we found a bug with the mouse sensitivity input curve that is being used which resulted in some weird spikes when changing sensitivity. This occurs at settings of 20 and 100 and will be fixed once the above issue has been.
Cheers
CCP Wolfman
if you use a mouse don't be on 20 or 100 |

supersayinb
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
63
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:52:00 -
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Gunner Needed wrote:ccp just revert the controls to how they were, we know you worked hard to change them but its pretty clear to most that the old settings were 100X better
This^ |

Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
85
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:05:00 -
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Iv gotten use to the aiming when it comes to ARs and ADS, the only problem is when using shotguns,i cant hit sh*t with that thing anymore;/ |

DJINN serious issues
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
21
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:08:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:VLIGHT5 wrote:CCP says they don't think there's anything wrong with aiming. Make of that what you will. They obviously know what they're talking about. what? CCP Wolfman wrote:Hi guys,
WeGÇÖve just finished testing a further update to the aiming systems and we will be deploying this to you today. This time the changes are primarily focused on improving the DS3 controls but there are some little tweaks for the mouse in there as well. I have decided not to explain what has actually changed (yet) as I donGÇÖt want to influence your feedback. I will fill you in once youGÇÖve had a chance to play with them and shout praise/abuse.
In other control related news:
* We are looking in to whether or not the DS3 acceleration to max rotation speed is respecting the actual settings (thanks Sete Clifton for noticing there might be an issue here).
* After some investigation we discovered that the sensitivity input curve being used by the mouse was incorrect. Despite new settings being present they were not being used. This issue requires a code update to fix and that is something we are working on as we speak. We will let you know when that is ready (this issue does not effect DS3 users).
* Related to that we found a bug with the mouse sensitivity input curve that is being used which resulted in some weird spikes when changing sensitivity. This occurs at settings of 20 and 100 and will be fixed once the above issue has been.
Cheers
CCP Wolfman
if you use a mouse don't be on 20 or 100
Damn. 100 is the only speed that works ;). 90 is huge drop.
Where did you get these notes from? Is that post 5-14 update? |

Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
169
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:14:00 -
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When did they deploy that "fix" is it in yet? I found myself having some issues aiming last night and assumed it was cause I was super tired. But if they stealth messed with the aim again, i may need to go into my settings. |

Alina Heart
DIOS EX. Gentlemen's Agreement
141
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:14:00 -
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The Whole Shooting/FPS mechanics thing is just completely f#cked.
We had absolutely no issues with the Chromosome Aiming mechanics, they decided to screw with it for whatever reason and we all complained about how much we hated it when Uprising came out.
Now it's a week later and after most of us finally getting used to the horrible aim mechanics, they tweaked it some back a little bit to Chromosome levels. Now once again I find myself having to readjust and feeling extremely sloppy with my crosshairs.
This is how it's going to keep going, all because CCP decided to fix what wasn't broken in the first place. I don't think we'll ever feel good about the Aiming in this game anymore.  |

bonkershound
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:14:00 -
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after 3 weeks of playing dust my k/d was around 2/1 since last week its about 2/5 I cant get used to it, is it because im using the controller, |
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